The "Virtuous" New Nazis.

[Mindful]

Anyway......

London Mayor Sadiq Khan to U.S. Immigrants: Don't Assimilate
by Raheem Kassam • Sep 16, 2016
Cross-posted from Breitbart

London Mayor Sadiq Khan to U.S. Immigrants: Don't Assimilate

Sadiq Khan narrowly won London's mayoral election in May.



London's Muslim mayor Sadiq Khan has continued his pro-Hillary Clinton tour of the United States by declaring that immigrants into the West should not be forced to assimilate.

His comments come hot on the heels of the Chicago press exposing his connections to radical Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

Mr. Khan, who was elected to be London's mayor in May 2016, has also used his trip to claim that Republican candidate Donald Trump is "playing into the hands" of the Islamic State.

His trip runs contrary to the U.S. visit from former UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage, who presented an upbeat message of defeating the political establishment on stage with Donald Trump.

Instead, Mr. Khan insisted: "One of the lessons from around the world is that a laissez-faire or hands-off approach to social integration doesn't work. We need rules, institutions, and support to enable people to integrate into cohesive communities and for the avoidance of doubt, I don't mean assimilation, I mean integration, and there's a difference."

He added: "People shouldn't have to drop their cultures and traditions when they arrive in our cities and countries

 

[Mindful]

I never dropped my tradition of scones and cucumber sandwiches.

 

[irosie91]

Then why do they trot it out every month or so as a reason/excuse for attacking the Jews. The leaders of hamas call for the destruction of Israel every day, and they even put it in a letter to the UN that the UN should have replied to with threats of multinational violence

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves as best they can from a brutal Israeli occupation.

You do realise that gaza is not occupied dont you, and that firing illegal rockets into Israel is a war crime and not defence. So want to find where in the Geneva conventions it says targetting children is allowed as a defencive move ?

By the way under International laws it is the arab muslims that occupy Israel, and it is time the UN forced them to leave

By blockading Gaza, controlling its air space and territorial waters, and periodically massacring its citizens, Gaza is effectively occupied territory.

Not according to international law, and that is what counts. Not your JEW HATRED and NAZISM.

If hamas stopped firing illegal weapons into Israel from civilian areas then its civilians would not be killed

International law requires Israel to get out of Palestine.

what are you calling "Palestine"?

 

[Phoenall]

Those idiots don't realize that Jews were never a threat to them and that the one true threat to them, as well as most of the world......is Islam.

Right, so it's ok to scapegoat innocent Muslims for the actions of a few. Never changes. Just choose new targets.

Pew polls and research have interviewed Muslims in various Muslim nations and found a common thread. To the "majority," Sharia Law is preferable to any other law (and as Sharia Law is part of Islams political aims, it is absolutely incompatible with western society), Gays/Lesbians should be imprisoned or killed, stoning of adulterers is acceptable, and on and on it goes. The reason we don't see most Muslims out there running amok and killing indiscriminately is because many have families to feed and are busy supporting their large families; yet they will still support the overall goal of conquering the non-Islamic world. Any who say otherwise are using "taqqiya."

The reason you don't see them running amok as you say is that is not the way most of them are. As education and income grow, family size goes down. In fact, among Muslim immigrants to western countries by the second generation, family size is other groups.

Pew polls are an excellent source. Have you read what they have to say about American Muslims?

The average muslim family size in Europe is 7, the average European family size is 5. So you really need to change your source

10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.​

Muslim Demographics

A little bit old isnt it, the date stamp shows it to be from 2009. The fact is the muslims have on average 5 children per household.

Only an islamonazi propagandist would post such an article to try and hide the truth

 

[Phoenall]

So why do you see no problem in scapegoating the Jews and try to blame them for everything. They did not start the problems in the world, that was down to the religions that came after

Where have I "scapegoated" Jews or blamed them for everything? Think carefully before you keep lying Phoenall. Maybe you could provide a link.

Your complete acceptance of what team palestine post shows that you blame them for everything that is happening. Your refusal to accept that the same international laws that created Jordan, Iraq, Iran and Syria also created the Jewish national home. Your denial of the Jews rights under international laws and claims of war crimes also shows you to scapegoat the Jews and blame them for everything. Your latest trick of STEALING Jewish land to give to illegal immigrants as it will make the area more peaceful is a laugh after being shown the arab muslims many charters that say the exact opposite and that the only way to ensue peace is to wipe out the Jews and give the land to the muslims.

Not just me that has seen through your veneer as far too many posters are now calling you out.

Where have I blamed Jews for everything? Your inability to provide links (yet again) is duly noted.

Not just me that has seen through your hypocrisy is it, many others are also commenting on your Jew hatred

So you can't find a single link to support your lies?

Then try looking again as many people are now calling you out

 

[Phoenall]

I

10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.​

I sure wish this forum had a moderator of good character who would warn people when they are WAY off topic.

The topic here isn't American Muslims. It is antisemitism, specifically the politically correct variety sweeping the European left.

What do you expect when they are islamonazi propagandists who refuse to see the complaints made against them

 

[Phoenall]

I never dropped my tradition of scones and cucumber sandwiches.

Is that scones with cream and jam, and do you put poached salmon in with the cucumber. I like cucumber sliced and then soaked in vinegar it lifts the flavour

 

[Tilly]

I

10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.​

I sure wish this forum had a moderator of good character who would warn people when they are WAY off topic.

The topic here isn't American Muslims. It is antisemitism, specifically the politically correct variety sweeping the European left.

What do you expect when they are islamonazi propagandists who refuse to see the complaints made against them

Ironically, if this thread were about Muslims, coyote would be the first to go full Godwin, and would be ranting ad nauseum about Nazis and painting Muslims as the new Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

There's a strain of pernicious anti semitism running through European 'intellectual' thought, not particularly influenced by Islam.

.....and as we can see from Eloy, here, that includes those who are not the least bit intellectual as well.

The different strains of antisemitism matter less to me than the hatred, though. The particulars of the various themes utilized to single out Jews may differ between the orthodox Neo Marxists, the Islamists and the soccer hooligan type Nazis, but they all merge together. They all agree that Jews are a singularly pernicious people, sneaky and conniving in behavior, not to be trusted, unduly influential, manipulative and powerful. That these themes now coalesce around the collective Jew as represented by a tiny nation state doesn't really change the nature of the age-old hatred one bit.

I do agree about the pernicious nature of European antisemitism, however, and what makes it especially pernicious is that these idiots actually do see their singling out of Jews as a virtue. Take Coyote, here, who sees herself as a great champion fighting for social justice -- so much so that she has turned it into a full-time preoccupation. Her entire personality is immersed in this great.......well, I would call it a crusade were it not for the fact it is more of an anti-Crusade, and hers is a case of the true believer every bit as rigid and absolute as the most ardent bible-thumping fundamentalist. Multiply one Coyote by tens upon tens of millions, and the true extent of this hatred is revealed.

Antisemitism has passed like a virus from one leftist to the next over the last 50 years or so, and is now so pervasive that a person is automatically assailed if they AREN'T antisemitic. It has become the badge worn proudly by leftists and is now a litmus test used to determine who gets to be included in the club and who doesn't.

The thing with antisemitism is that when boiled down, it's nothing more than hate - hate, which when it riles up a people enough, can kill. It's a hatred perpetrated against a group solely because of who they are perceived to be - not who they are. That hatred is fed by easily believed canards and conspiracy theories, complexities boiled down into black and white simplicities and, no matter how often they are debunked they continue to resurface in times of social, political or economic stress. Right now - in a time when nations are unraveling, national identities are in crisis, and economies are shakey - it's growing: fed and watered by a rhetoric designed to appease the nervous masses and promote a false sense of security.

Whether that rhetoric is directed at Jews, a minority historically persecuted by the great religious majorities, or at Muslims, collectively blamed for the actions of the religion's extremists - it is the same. It's designed to promote hatred, fear and intolerance. To divide a nation along ethnic, racial and religious lines - lines that make it clear one group, no matter what it does, can not belong as long as it shows any visible of it's identity.

There is no difference between what you spew and what you criticize antisemites for. It's all hate (albeit wrapped in a patriotic package), directed at people, because of their identity. That is your proud badge beneath your self-righteous words.

You toe the line that all anti semites, and other violent and oppressive ideologues, toe....."We're no.worse than anybody else...except we're JUSTIFIED". What garbage. Nobody is as bad as muslims and nazi progressive douchebags. That's why they're reviled.

No one is justified when it is directed at innocent people.

You're toeing the antisemite line.

Just as you are toeing the islamonazi propagandist line

 

[Phoenall]

I

10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.​

I sure wish this forum had a moderator of good character who would warn people when they are WAY off topic.

The topic here isn't American Muslims. It is antisemitism, specifically the politically correct variety sweeping the European left.

You're concern would have some legitimacy if the main participants, including yourself and the OP had any serious desire to be on topic Otherwise, it's Zone 3, there is flexibility, as long as it doesn't become derailed into an FZ fest.

In other words, do as you say and not as you do.

You fucking hypocrite, you.

I might add as well, that offering a piece by a journalist pulling figures out of his ass does not debunk anything. The world factbook disagrees with his made-up figures.

What, you mean like Pew disagreed with the crap you spewed from a hate site about American Muslims? You're hardly one to be talking about the merits of sources - you're integrity there is zero.

Here's some more if you disagree:

Pew: Fertility Rate for Muslims vs. Non-Muslims in Europe

Birth rates levelling off

A 2007 study by demographers Charles Westhoff and Tomas Frejka identified the same trend among Muslim immigrant populations in most countries where data was available, including Austria, Slovenia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and England and Wales.

The total fertility rate among Muslim women is almost always higher than that of the native population, but “with the passage of time Muslim fertility moves closer to the fertility of the majority of the population in the respective countries”.



In this country, the study tracks changing fertility rates among women from Pakistan and Bangladesh (assumed to be overwhelmingly Muslim).

Women from Pakistan and Bangladesh tend to have more children, but the fertility gap shrinks over the decades.

The US Pew Forum think-tank predicts that this gap will continue to diminish in the coming decades in all European countries.

Even older when neo marxists had almost total power and could get published anything they wanted as true

 

[Phoenall]

There's a strain of pernicious anti semitism running through European 'intellectual' thought, not particularly influenced by Islam.

.....and as we can see from Eloy, here, that includes those who are not the least bit intellectual as well.

The different strains of antisemitism matter less to me than the hatred, though. The particulars of the various themes utilized to single out Jews may differ between the orthodox Neo Marxists, the Islamists and the soccer hooligan type Nazis, but they all merge together. They all agree that Jews are a singularly pernicious people, sneaky and conniving in behavior, not to be trusted, unduly influential, manipulative and powerful. That these themes now coalesce around the collective Jew as represented by a tiny nation state doesn't really change the nature of the age-old hatred one bit.

I do agree about the pernicious nature of European antisemitism, however, and what makes it especially pernicious is that these idiots actually do see their singling out of Jews as a virtue. Take Coyote, here, who sees herself as a great champion fighting for social justice -- so much so that she has turned it into a full-time preoccupation. Her entire personality is immersed in this great.......well, I would call it a crusade were it not for the fact it is more of an anti-Crusade, and hers is a case of the true believer every bit as rigid and absolute as the most ardent bible-thumping fundamentalist. Multiply one Coyote by tens upon tens of millions, and the true extent of this hatred is revealed.

Antisemitism has passed like a virus from one leftist to the next over the last 50 years or so, and is now so pervasive that a person is automatically assailed if they AREN'T antisemitic. It has become the badge worn proudly by leftists and is now a litmus test used to determine who gets to be included in the club and who doesn't.

The thing with antisemitism is that when boiled down, it's nothing more than hate - hate, which when it riles up a people enough, can kill. It's a hatred perpetrated against a group solely because of who they are perceived to be - not who they are. That hatred is fed by easily believed canards and conspiracy theories, complexities boiled down into black and white simplicities and, no matter how often they are debunked they continue to resurface in times of social, political or economic stress. Right now - in a time when nations are unraveling, national identities are in crisis, and economies are shakey - it's growing: fed and watered by a rhetoric designed to appease the nervous masses and promote a false sense of security.

Whether that rhetoric is directed at Jews, a minority historically persecuted by the great religious majorities, or at Muslims, collectively blamed for the actions of the religion's extremists - it is the same. It's designed to promote hatred, fear and intolerance. To divide a nation along ethnic, racial and religious lines - lines that make it clear one group, no matter what it does, can not belong as long as it shows any visible of it's identity.

There is no difference between what you spew and what you criticize antisemites for. It's all hate (albeit wrapped in a patriotic package), directed at people, because of their identity. That is your proud badge beneath your self-righteous words.

When you signed up with the Muslim Brotherhood to represent them online, did they have you take a class in this sort of turnspeak agitprop or something?

When hatred is directed against innocent people in order to create scapegoats, it's always wrong dude. No matter how you try to spin it with your obfuscations and distractions.

Any decent person would recognize it for what it is and oppose it, rather than excuse it.

“We will not be silent”: American Jews hit the streets during Hanukkah to fight Islamophobia and racism
Swedish Muslim takes on anti-Semitism

So when will you start opposing the lying POS that posts the worst lies ever on the board, and I am talking about liq who is a revolting nazi

 

[Mindful]

I never dropped my tradition of scones and cucumber sandwiches.

Is that scones with cream and jam, and do you put poached salmon in with the cucumber. I like cucumber sliced and then soaked in vinegar it lifts the flavour

Can't always be bothered with the cream.

Cucumber sandwiches pure. There's an art to buttering the bread, and slicing off the crusts.

Salmon sandwiches. Someone showed me a special way to do those too. Involving white pepper.

I love the cucumber soaked in vinegar. With shallots.

And I soak my fish & chips with malt vinegar.

 

[Mindful]

Cue Penelope to ask if my cucumber is Kosher.

 

[Phoenall]

Then why do they trot it out every month or so as a reason/excuse for attacking the Jews. The leaders of hamas call for the destruction of Israel every day, and they even put it in a letter to the UN that the UN should have replied to with threats of multinational violence

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves as best they can from a brutal Israeli occupation.

You do realise that gaza is not occupied dont you, and that firing illegal rockets into Israel is a war crime and not defence. So want to find where in the Geneva conventions it says targetting children is allowed as a defencive move ?

By the way under International laws it is the arab muslims that occupy Israel, and it is time the UN forced them to leave

By blockading Gaza, controlling its air space and territorial waters, and periodically massacring its citizens, Gaza is effectively occupied territory.

Not according to international law, and that is what counts. Not your JEW HATRED and NAZISM.

If hamas stopped firing illegal weapons into Israel from civilian areas then its civilians would not be killed

International law requires Israel to get out of Palestine.

WHICH ONE LINK TO IT AND SHOW WERE IT SAYS THAT, AND THIS NEGATES UN RESOLUTIONS AS THEY ARE NOT LEGALLY BINDING

 

[Phoenall]

WRONG they were part of the democratically elected governeent until they decided to take over as dictators. They have refused to allow the people the right to vote and try to blame it on the Jews

The Hamas party won the democratic election ten years ago, since when Gaza has been under siege by the Israelis..
You are rewriting history.

WRONG in August 2005 Israel withdrew from gaza and have not had any control over it since. The blockade is legal and it is hamas that is putting gaza under siege by closing the border crossing on the gaza side. Any idiot that can use a search engine can find out the truth at any time.

The Israelis have not withdrawn from Gaza. "The Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory (the West Bank including East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip) is in its fifth decade and the undercurrent of violence and inherent abuses of fundamental human rights and disregard for international law inherent in any long-standing military occupation is presented by both sides." (Amnesty International)
Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

So says the anti semitic left wing AI, that has been proven to tell lies about the Jews and Israel.


International law saws that gaza is not occupied as Israel does not have military control over any part of it. Try reading the real links that tell it as it is, and not as you want to see it

"Gaza is definitely still occupied, and Israel is still the belligerent occupying force, and they have no right to enforce this illegal, inhuman collective punishment. It is entirely against the Geneva Convention."
Does Israel actually occupy the Gaza Strip?

I give you INTERNATIONAL LAW

ICRC service



1. What is occupation?
Article 42 of the 1907 Hague Regulations (HR) states that a " territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised. "

According to their common Article 2, the four Geneva Conventions of 1949 apply to any territory occupied during international hostilities. They also apply in situations where the occupation of state territory meets with no armed resistance.

The legality of any particular occupation is regulated by the UN Charter and the law known as jus ad bellum. Once a situation exists which factually amounts to an occupation the law of occupation applies – whether or not the occupation is considered lawful.

Therefore, for the applicability of the law of occupation, it makes no difference whether an occupation has received Security Council approval, what its aim is, or indeed whether it is called an “invasion”, “liberation”, “administration” or “occupation”. As the law of occupation is primarily motivated by humanitarian considerations, it is solely the facts on the ground that determine its application.




Therefore gaza is not occupied by Israel

 

[Phoenall]

Link please!!!

Greg

Not as of 2014.



You have something more recent??

Greg

I do know one thing; were a country's military occupying my land for half a century, massacring thousands in defiance of all international, sniping at children, destroying our infrastructure, hospitals, water treatment plants, schools, factories, bulldozing our homes with JCBs, arresting our children and keeping them for interrogation without legal counsel or family present, preventing pregnant women from attending maternity clinics, humiliating my people at checkpoints in our own homeland, ... well, I would want that enemy destroyed, wouldn't you?

Only one problem the land was never arab muslims from 1099 when they were evicted. The Ottomans never handed sovereignty to the arab muslims and the LoN gave them 78% of palestine to play with. This left the Jews with the poorest of land and desert to make into their National Home, and because they did in the face of constant attacks from islamonazi's proves they are there to stay.

By the way if you were to act as the islamonazi scum then you would be wiped out by your own government with the blessings of the world. How do you like them apples ?

You are mistaken. It is the people who are born in a land who own it as a birthright. Palestinians who were born in Palestine have a more legitimate right to the land than Ottomans or Russian Jews for that matter.

Once a person is a CITIZEN of a nation they are 100% legitimate shareholders in that Nation. Doesn't matter if its Jews or East Timorese. They are CITIZENS. It has ZERO to do with blood; everything to do with Citizenship.

Greg

The Israelis give citizenship to Jews from Queens, New York, and permits them to be settlers on Palestinian occupied land. This is a violation of international law and basic justice.

Another moron that trots out invisible international laws. Does this mean that all the Americans are illegals, as are all Europeans unless they can show their abcestry back before the Roman conquest ?

Nice of you to admit that the arab muslims are occupying Israeli land, and I would so like to read this International law you are so boldly posting ?

 

[Phoenall]

Only one problem the land was never arab muslims from 1099 when they were evicted. The Ottomans never handed sovereignty to the arab muslims and the LoN gave them 78% of palestine to play with. This left the Jews with the poorest of land and desert to make into their National Home, and because they did in the face of constant attacks from islamonazi's proves they are there to stay.

By the way if you were to act as the islamonazi scum then you would be wiped out by your own government with the blessings of the world. How do you like them apples ?

You are mistaken. It is the people who are born in a land who own it as a birthright. Palestinians who were born in Palestine have a more legitimate right to the land than Ottomans or Russian Jews for that matter.

Once a person is a CITIZEN of a nation they are 100% legitimate shareholders in that Nation. Doesn't matter if its Jews or East Timorese. They are CITIZENS. It has ZERO to do with blood; everything to do with Citizenship.

Greg

The Israelis give citizenship to Jews from Queens, New York, and permits them to be settlers on Palestinian occupied land. This is a violation of international law and basic justice.

Rubbish. They are a sovereign nation and can give Citizenship to whoever they like. My father was made a Citizen of THIS country with the appropriate residency etc. The lands on which they settle are indeed disputed but it is LEGAL wrt Israeli Law. If you don't agree then that's what the courts are for; not a suicide vest!!

Greg

The Occupied Palestinian Territories are not disputed in international law or by any country in the world except Israel.

CORRECT as under International law the land was granted to the Jews, the same set of international laws also granted land to create Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Iran Egypt and Saudi

 

[Phoenall]

I never dropped my tradition of scones and cucumber sandwiches.

Is that scones with cream and jam, and do you put poached salmon in with the cucumber. I like cucumber sliced and then soaked in vinegar it lifts the flavour

Can't always be bothered with the cream.

Cucumber sandwiches pure. There's an art to buttering the bread, and slicing off the crusts.

Salmon sandwiches. Someone showed me a special way to do those too. Involving white pepper.

I love the cucumber soaked in vinegar. With shallots.

And I soak my fish & chips with malt vinegar.

Flake the Salmon removing the bones and skin, dust with white pepper and a dash of white vinegar. Leave in a fridge to marinate before serving. I prefer a bed of lettuce first, then a thin layer of salmon covered in this slices of cucumber, wholemeal bread of course cut into triangles and no crusts.

 

[Phoenall]

Cue Penelope to ask if my cucumber is Kosher.

Mine is home grown, a variety called marketmore. Short thick fruits with a tough skin and a taste that has to be experienced

 

[Phoenall]

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves as best they can from a brutal Israeli occupation.

You do realise that gaza is not occupied dont you, and that firing illegal rockets into Israel is a war crime and not defence. So want to find where in the Geneva conventions it says targetting children is allowed as a defencive move ?

By the way under International laws it is the arab muslims that occupy Israel, and it is time the UN forced them to leave

By blockading Gaza, controlling its air space and territorial waters, and periodically massacring its citizens, Gaza is effectively occupied territory.

Not according to international law, and that is what counts. Not your JEW HATRED and NAZISM.

If hamas stopped firing illegal weapons into Israel from civilian areas then its civilians would not be killed

International law requires Israel to get out of Palestine.

It's not that clear-cut.

There is no such international law in existence, and if you were truly unbiased that is what you would have replied.