The "Virtuous" New Nazis.

[Phoenall]

I sure wish this forum had a moderator of good character who would warn people when they are WAY off topic.

The topic here isn't American Muslims. It is antisemitism, specifically the politically correct variety sweeping the European left.

What do you expect when they are islamonazi propagandists who refuse to see the complaints made against them

Ironically, if this thread were about Muslims, coyote would be the first to go full Godwin, and would be ranting ad nauseum about Nazis and painting Muslims as the new Jews.

And you'd be the first to agree when someone calls for nuking Muslim kids

Do you have a link to that, or are you exceeding your authority again ?

I'm still waiting on your links Phoenall.

If you have a problem with "authority" - take it up via pm.

In other words you have stepped out of line AGAIN

 

[saveliberty]

In other words you have stepped out of line AGAIN

Did you see red? Because I didn't see red writing.

Seems like we have an argument over which religion should be bashed, instead of supporting choice.

 

[Coyote]

I think that is because Europe is far more secular and values it's secularness. Unlike ourselves, they've been ravaged by religious wars.

I disagree as to cause. Socialism has created government as God.

I don't think it's that cerebral.

Look at Europe's history of religious wars and the horrific bloodshed associated with various wars, pogroms, expulsions etc:
European wars of religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Still, according to Pew, Europe is still vastly Christian and will continue to be. Unfortunately it's Jewish population is continuing to decline with Jews moving to Israel and elsewhere. That could be a reflection of anti-semitism in general and anti-semitism from an increasing Muslim immigrant population putting pressure on them.

 

[saveliberty]

Hey look posters! Civil discussion complete with sources.

I happen to think they overlook what socialism has contributed, but I am not name calling.

 

[Phoenall]

Suddenly context matters? Wow. It's not as clean as you make it out to be.

Again: if you can't handle shit, stop throwing it. Stop accusing people of supporting things they don't. It you are incapable of that then at least grow a pair.

So.. all of what you said was meant to show people what they were doing wrong in the thread? You might want to mention that, because it looks like all of your last three whines you violated too.

It's between myself and a particular poster who follows me around with his personal attacks. I have no issue with defending myself. Why do you suddenly feel the need to jump into a thread that you hadn't participated at all in up until now - in fact, not once did you discuss the topic. Is it simply to join a dog pile?

I had some interest in the topic. One thing I was going to mention is Muslims seem to be fairing better than Jews in Germany.

In post #21, I tried to explain it as I see it. The rhetoric and the rise of far right nationalism is, in my opinion dangerous because it seeks to scapegoat classes of people. It did so with the Jews between the world wars and now the same rhetoric is being used to promote hatred against Muslims while they're courting the Jews in an attempt to become politically mainstream. Underneath, it's the same old anti-semitism and the supporters of those movements spout the same old canards. I don't think it's a big problem for German Jews. I think Jews in France have a harder time of it, because they are also faced with antisemitism from Islamic migrants.

That kind of rhetoric is dangerous and divisive, and it seeks to scapegoat - not bring together.

And once again you ignore the truth from people on the ground. We see how anti semitism is growing in left wing groups, who also ally themselves with muslims. We dont see any anti semitism in any right wing groups, in fact we see the opposite. Are you aware that anti semitism has increased in line with the rise of neo marxism and the immigration of muslims, something the left wing parties have tried to hide and cover up. When our last Labour P.M stated that he would alter the laws to enable him to silence the detractors it set the wheels turning for his dismissal and the end of labours rule.You would think they would have learnt from that that the people did not want anti semitism and uncontrolled migration of potential terrorists, guess they are burying their heads in the sand. The labour leaders latest stupid outburst is he would nationalise a T.V programme because the BBC would not all,ow it to be made by certain production companies and so sold the rights.

 

[Coyote]

Hey look posters! Civil discussion complete with sources.

I happen to think they overlook what socialism has contributed, but I am not name calling.

I don't know, increased socialism might have been means to remedy what they saw as societal ills but not sure created a view of the state as god....

 

[saveliberty]

You have to admit, I am a really good bouncer.

Pouncer, I meant pouncer.

 

[Coyote]

Suddenly context matters? Wow. It's not as clean as you make it out to be.

Again: if you can't handle shit, stop throwing it. Stop accusing people of supporting things they don't. It you are incapable of that then at least grow a pair.

So.. all of what you said was meant to show people what they were doing wrong in the thread? You might want to mention that, because it looks like all of your last three whines you violated too.

It's between myself and a particular poster who follows me around with his personal attacks. I have no issue with defending myself. Why do you suddenly feel the need to jump into a thread that you hadn't participated at all in up until now - in fact, not once did you discuss the topic. Is it simply to join a dog pile?

I had some interest in the topic. One thing I was going to mention is Muslims seem to be fairing better than Jews in Germany.

In post #21, I tried to explain it as I see it. The rhetoric and the rise of far right nationalism is, in my opinion dangerous because it seeks to scapegoat classes of people. It did so with the Jews between the world wars and now the same rhetoric is being used to promote hatred against Muslims while they're courting the Jews in an attempt to become politically mainstream. Underneath, it's the same old anti-semitism and the supporters of those movements spout the same old canards. I don't think it's a big problem for German Jews. I think Jews in France have a harder time of it, because they are also faced with antisemitism from Islamic migrants.

That kind of rhetoric is dangerous and divisive, and it seeks to scapegoat - not bring together.

And once again you ignore the truth from people on the ground. We see how anti semitism is growing in left wing groups, who also ally themselves with muslims. We dont see any anti semitism in any right wing groups, in fact we see the opposite. Are you aware that anti semitism has increased in line with the rise of neo marxism and the immigration of muslims, something the left wing parties have tried to hide and cover up. When our last Labour P.M stated that he would alter the laws to enable him to silence the detractors it set the wheels turning for his dismissal and the end of labours rule.You would think they would have learnt from that that the people did not want anti semitism and uncontrolled migration of potential terrorists, guess they are burying their heads in the sand. The labour leaders latest stupid outburst is he would nationalise a T.V programme because the BBC would not all,ow it to be made by certain production companies and so sold the rights.

One of the articles I posted was about anti-semitism in the rightwing - despite the superficial rhetoric and attempts to change the public face - the inner workings and members still believe in the same old antisemitic dogma. I think it's just wrapped in a more palatable package now because it can be focused on Muslims. I agree, it is growing in some of the far left groups and it was disturbing to read about what occurred in Britain's labor party.

 

[saveliberty]

And once again you ignore the truth from people on the ground. We see how anti semitism is growing in left wing groups, who also ally themselves with muslims. We dont see any anti semitism in any right wing groups, in fact we see the opposite. Are you aware that anti semitism has increased in line with the rise of neo marxism and the immigration of muslims, something the left wing parties have tried to hide and cover up. When our last Labour P.M stated that he would alter the laws to enable him to silence the detractors it set the wheels turning for his dismissal and the end of labours rule.You would think they would have learnt from that that the people did not want anti semitism and uncontrolled migration of potential terrorists, guess they are burying their heads in the sand. The labour leaders latest stupid outburst is he would nationalise a T.V programme because the BBC would not all,ow it to be made by certain production companies and so sold the rights.

Hopefully the government responds in equal measure to the problem.

 

[Phoenall]

In other words you have stepped out of line AGAIN

Did you see red? Because I didn't see red writing.

Seems like we have an argument over which religion should be bashed, instead of supporting choice.

All religions that promote peace as a fundamental part of their teachings should be supported, any that promote violence, hate, divisiveness and child abuse as basic tenets should be outlawed and eradicated from the west. When they realise they cant gain access to our trapping of modern life they might start making changes for the better.

I wont hold my breath waiting for the followers of such religions/dogmas to change their ways

 

[Phoenall]

Hey look posters! Civil discussion complete with sources.

I happen to think they overlook what socialism has contributed, but I am not name calling.

I don't know, increased socialism might have been means to remedy what they saw as societal ills but not sure created a view of the state as god....

The term is FASCISM to describe the socialist ideal of "The state is everything, and everything is the state"

 

[saveliberty]

I'd be happy if upstairs threads promoted fair and balanced retorts. My expectations of getting millions to agree are almost nonexistent.

 

[saveliberty]

The term is FASCISM to describe the socialist ideal of "The state is everything, and everything is the state"

Thank you.

 

[Coyote]

You have to admit, I am a really good bouncer.

You have to admit, I am a really good bouncer.

Pouncer, I meant pouncer.

 

[saveliberty]

You have to admit, I am a really good bouncer.

You have to admit, I am a really good bouncer.

Pouncer, I meant pouncer.

That will leave a mark.

 

[Coyote]

Hey look posters! Civil discussion complete with sources.

I happen to think they overlook what socialism has contributed, but I am not name calling.

I don't know, increased socialism might have been means to remedy what they saw as societal ills but not sure created a view of the state as god....

The term is FASCISM to describe the socialist ideal of "The state is everything, and everything is the state"

Fascism and socialism are different things.

 

[Phoenall]

So.. all of what you said was meant to show people what they were doing wrong in the thread? You might want to mention that, because it looks like all of your last three whines you violated too.

It's between myself and a particular poster who follows me around with his personal attacks. I have no issue with defending myself. Why do you suddenly feel the need to jump into a thread that you hadn't participated at all in up until now - in fact, not once did you discuss the topic. Is it simply to join a dog pile?

I had some interest in the topic. One thing I was going to mention is Muslims seem to be fairing better than Jews in Germany.

In post #21, I tried to explain it as I see it. The rhetoric and the rise of far right nationalism is, in my opinion dangerous because it seeks to scapegoat classes of people. It did so with the Jews between the world wars and now the same rhetoric is being used to promote hatred against Muslims while they're courting the Jews in an attempt to become politically mainstream. Underneath, it's the same old anti-semitism and the supporters of those movements spout the same old canards. I don't think it's a big problem for German Jews. I think Jews in France have a harder time of it, because they are also faced with antisemitism from Islamic migrants.

That kind of rhetoric is dangerous and divisive, and it seeks to scapegoat - not bring together.

And once again you ignore the truth from people on the ground. We see how anti semitism is growing in left wing groups, who also ally themselves with muslims. We dont see any anti semitism in any right wing groups, in fact we see the opposite. Are you aware that anti semitism has increased in line with the rise of neo marxism and the immigration of muslims, something the left wing parties have tried to hide and cover up. When our last Labour P.M stated that he would alter the laws to enable him to silence the detractors it set the wheels turning for his dismissal and the end of labours rule.You would think they would have learnt from that that the people did not want anti semitism and uncontrolled migration of potential terrorists, guess they are burying their heads in the sand. The labour leaders latest stupid outburst is he would nationalise a T.V programme because the BBC would not all,ow it to be made by certain production companies and so sold the rights.

One of the articles I posted was about anti-semitism in the rightwing - despite the superficial rhetoric and attempts to change the public face - the inner workings and members still believe in the same old antisemitic dogma. I think it's just wrapped in a more palatable package now because it can be focused on Muslims. I agree, it is growing in some of the far left groups and it was disturbing to read about what occurred in Britain's labor party.

And this had been going on for 14 years when they were in power. Even today there are pockets of neo marxist local government heads of department that use the threat of branding the police and other public servants as racist's, islamophobes and nazi's to protect the muslims extremists that are their "friends" This is why the muslims got away with the rape of white children for so long, and were protected from arrest for their crimes. It took the demise of the labour party to allow the police to start taking action and to date over 500 adult male muslims have been charged with sex crimes against children We are waiting for the case involving the murder of a Blackpool 15 year old girl to be re-opened and the named culprits to be found guilty and sentenced to life. The whole case shows just how much the neo marxists were ruling the country from the back rooms of power. Unelected and unwanted by the people and still they had the power of life and death in some cases over ordinary people. The full story will never be told as it involves so many figures in high power and could destroy the nation as a whole

 

[Phoenall]

And once again you ignore the truth from people on the ground. We see how anti semitism is growing in left wing groups, who also ally themselves with muslims. We dont see any anti semitism in any right wing groups, in fact we see the opposite. Are you aware that anti semitism has increased in line with the rise of neo marxism and the immigration of muslims, something the left wing parties have tried to hide and cover up. When our last Labour P.M stated that he would alter the laws to enable him to silence the detractors it set the wheels turning for his dismissal and the end of labours rule.You would think they would have learnt from that that the people did not want anti semitism and uncontrolled migration of potential terrorists, guess they are burying their heads in the sand. The labour leaders latest stupid outburst is he would nationalise a T.V programme because the BBC would not all,ow it to be made by certain production companies and so sold the rights.

Hopefully the government responds in equal measure to the problem.

The government is collecting data to be used against him in the fullness of time, at the moment he is protected by parliamentary privilege

 

[Phoenall]

Hey look posters! Civil discussion complete with sources.

I happen to think they overlook what socialism has contributed, but I am not name calling.

I don't know, increased socialism might have been means to remedy what they saw as societal ills but not sure created a view of the state as god....

The term is FASCISM to describe the socialist ideal of "The state is everything, and everything is the state"

Fascism and socialism are different things.

Are they they why did the National Socialist Workers party of Germany practise and epitomise fascism.

And why is Israel likened to the same fascist party ? and named as fascist if the socialists of Germany werent fascists ?

 

[Coyote]

Hey look posters! Civil discussion complete with sources.

I happen to think they overlook what socialism has contributed, but I am not name calling.

I don't know, increased socialism might have been means to remedy what they saw as societal ills but not sure created a view of the state as god....

The term is FASCISM to describe the socialist ideal of "The state is everything, and everything is the state"

Fascism and socialism are different things.

Hey look posters! Civil discussion complete with sources.

I happen to think they overlook what socialism has contributed, but I am not name calling.

I don't know, increased socialism might have been means to remedy what they saw as societal ills but not sure created a view of the state as god....

The term is FASCISM to describe the socialist ideal of "The state is everything, and everything is the state"

Fascism and socialism are different things.

Are they they why did the National Socialist Workers party of Germany practise and epitomise fascism.

Because they became fascist, not socialist.

Why is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea called "Democratic" when it isn't?

And why is Israel likened to the same fascist party ? and named as fascist if the socialists of Germany werent fascists ?

You'll have to ask people who call them fascist.