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It's NOT the guns, it's the fucked up policies of the Left causing this.
Do you even realize how stupid this line of argument is?Bomb making wont be that tricky if it became the norm
It's NOT the guns, it's the fucked up policies of the Left causing this.
Which policies, exactly? The desire to see more limited access to AR-15's in general, or the push for the kind of background check that would NEVER have allowed that kid to get any kind of gun in his hands, let alone an AR-15?
Which policies, exactly? Please be specific......
This one was preventable and that will always be on us.
YOU are the one who proclaimed that teachers should have AR-15s dumbshit
Its not stupid. It if became a norm, materials and knowledge would be more accessible. Hek, we have books that show how to make bombs out of 3 ingredients.Do you even realize how stupid this line of argument is?Bomb making wont be that tricky if it became the norm
Do you build bombs for fun and pleasure in your garage? Do you go set them off in the cow pasture on Sundays for recreation?
Just because we know to buy fertilizer, what then? How do you set it off? How much poop do you need to blow up a building the size of the federal building in OK?
I have a feeling if nutcases couldn't go to the sporting goods store and purchase a rifle, they would just grumble and grouse and dream of mayhem rather than committing it. 99% of the time, anyway. Even making AR15's illegal isn't going to solve the problem 100%.
Pogo is right--it isn't simply a matter of outlawing this gun or that, or making it harder to own one. There is a lot more to it, in many different areas: law enforcement, media, figuring out why in hell so many people are going off the rails and supporting solutions that prevent it. Nothing is going to change over night. It's not a magic wand solution. But we have to get started or we'll never get anywhere.
It IS the point, though. The argument that if we outlaw bumpstocks we will then find all guns confiscated and the Second Amendment repealed is ridiculous. That's where principles have left the NRA; it is not reasonable.The people who actually obey laws are not the ones you want to focus on.
And I don't care if they can't buy a bump stock or a 30 round magazine to hunt rabbits
That is not the point. The point is the principle of it all and what is agenda behind it. There are many, many other things to think about.
So killing 13 with a single shot or small capacity internal magazine is some how more acceptable to you than killing with a semiautomatic rifle?It is strange though. These types of school/mass shootings are a relatively new phenomena. I think this stuff really started to pick up steam in the 90s. I know there were some incidents before that, but they were way more rare, I think. What has happened that would make people want to do these things suddenly? What has emboldened these nuts to think that they can get away with doing these things? Like I said earlier, there was a time in our history when children even brought their rifles to school and there were NO school shootings. Nowadays we want to ban certain types of weaponry or even all firearms because we are so afraid of a few loony tunes who break down and lose it.
In 1966, Charles Whitman went to the observation deck of the Texas Tower and killed 13 people and injured 31
This was a time when our maniacs were more concerned with assassinations than mass killing to get your name in the newspapers
It was not till Columbine that the idea of using your assault weapon to slaughter as many people as you can took off
Since then we have had one senseless killing after another
And let's just state for the record that less than 1% of murders take place in mass shooting events and rifles of any kind are used in only about 2% of all murders
Every little bit helps
Mass killings are acts of terror ...why do we continue to provide them with the tools that maximize their killing ability?
I don't provide guns to anyone.
And the fact that I happen to own guns has absolutely nothing to do with murders, mass shooting or suicides
Most legal gun owners never shoot or kill anyone. These people are just full of hyperbole, trying to blame ALL gun owners for the actions of some crazy peeps.
So, if they can do that, then we can do the same with Muslims. It is about faith (religion) which is a constitutional right (like the 2nd amendment), yet some of these people are ABUSING it and using it as an excuse (an ideology) to kill or terrorize others.
And THIS is just one more facet of banning things because of what some loons might do. You cannot control the loony people with laws. It is just a fact of life that there are going to be some crazy people in life who will freak out and do some terrible things. It is a flaw of the human condition.
It IS the point, though. The argument that if we outlaw bumpstocks we will then find all guns confiscated and the Second Amendment repealed is ridiculous. That's where principles have left the NRA; it is not reasonable.The people who actually obey laws are not the ones you want to focus on.
And I don't care if they can't buy a bump stock or a 30 round magazine to hunt rabbits
That is not the point. The point is the principle of it all and what is agenda behind it. There are many, many other things to think about.
Nope. It is time to peel back the laws not make more... A ar-15 is a perfectly fine rifle it isn't any more dangerous then any other rifle it just looks scary to the pussy regressive left. Well many of them are ugly can we ban them?I don't know, but I think taking people's rights or limiting them to the power of government (especially when it comes to defense of yourself, your home, whatever), is more dangerous than the few lone loons we have running around. This wanting to limit or take one of our constitutional rights is a consorted organized effort.
We, The People ALREADY limit the ownership of weapons. When was the last time you saw an ad for an F-16 or a tank? How about a 50 cal machine gun?
Simple: Just add the AR-15 to that list. If you can pass whatever background check is required for a license to own a 50 cal machine gun, you too can buy an AR-15.
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Nothing being put forth to solve this issue is reasonable.it is not reasonable.
The REAL problem is that there are too many people in the world. More people means more crazy people. Period. End of story.
"lets ban 30 rd magazines"If you give them an inch, they will take a mile. Don't ever fall for that line from the leftists.
The REAL problem is that there are too many people in the world. More people means more crazy people. Period. End of story.
If this isn't warped sarcasm, you have my pity.
I would agree with this if it was just a few nuts in Islam... The culture they are raised in is not what we in the west call moral. Mostly because we dont kill people for being gay or women for not wearing the proper face mask.Just as the few nuts in the Muslim religion should not "tarnish" the whole religion, neither should a few nuts who abuse their second amendment right affect me or any other law abiding citizen who would NEVER murder people. As long as the United States government brandishes weapons, then so shall we the people because WE are the bosses here.
Trust me, I'm from the government. You don't need your weapons. WE will protect you.
