There Is No "Far Right" In This Country

So let me review...

1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
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'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
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'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
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'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.


Nah....Leftists ARE a mob.

1. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
a. Gustave was the second to bring up mass psychology, the first "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" was published in 1841 and was written by the Scottish journalist (back when they actually did real journalism) Charles Mackay, which exposed mass psychosis for the first time..... accounts of classic scams, grand-scale madness, and deceptions.

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds by Charles MacKay



Hitler, Mussolini...and their pal, Franklin Roosevelt.......Leftists all.



OMG!!!!!

This post is CLASSSIC!!!!!

The concept of irony has spent the entirety of its existence waiting for you to come along and give it meaning.


1. Did you actually post:
"....maybe you should worry more about when your rightwingnut ilk feel so threatened by asians that they put everyone asian into camps...."


2. Can you really be this stupid??????
Your demigod, Franklin Roosevelt, Democrat, Liberal, Progressive....totalitarian....did exactly that!!!!!!!
Gads....you put your foot not just in your mouth.....but up to your duodenum!!!!


3. More:
." Why did the [Roosevelt] administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.

Fair warning to you Leftists.....you may find the following a bit abstruse.....but it is the heart of the matter:


4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Any objection so far?


Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Let's go right for the head of the Far Left....Obama

7. The Obama administration is easily proven to be Far Left: he advanced, to a seat on the Supreme Court, a radical who does not believe in free speech, the first amendment.

"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."



In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."



Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."

If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut?



Any want to deny that free speech is a center of American tradition???
Anyone?



So....as far as the concept of free speech in America, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

"Hitler was a right wing loony, as are Cruz, Santorum, Huckaby, and many of the posters here."

Hitler was Leftist, as much as Stalin.
Both learned at the feet of Karl Marx.


Watch me smash a custard pie in your kisser:


"Hitler and the socialist dream

He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. "I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit".

German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

.....; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism." Hitler and the socialist dream



Pity you have no education, huh?
That's why you fall for every Leftist lie.


1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.

Really?

Well, then....let's smash another custard pie in your kisser:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


Let's take another example,.....


6. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer.'

"WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court on Monday narrowly upheld the centuries-old tradition of offering prayers to open government meetings, even if the prayers are overwhelmingly Christian and citizens are encouraged to participate.
The 5-4 ruling, supported by the court's conservative justices and opposed by its liberals, was based in large part on the history of legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution." Supreme Court upholds prayer at government meetings


See this? "... legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution."
Clearly this is at the center of American tradition.



But... "Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Yesterday, Joe Kennedy, an assistant high-school–football coach in Bremerton, Wash., was suspended. His offense? Kneeling for a short on-field prayer after football games. According to multiple news reports, for the last several years Kennedy has waited until each game ends and the players leave the field before walking to the 50-yard line and offering a quiet prayer for his students. He never asks anyone to join him, nor does he stop anyone who wants to do so."
Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Prayer and religiosity have always been part of this nation...from its inception. Only since totalitarian Franklin Roosevelt, as his first pick, put KKKer Hugo Black on the Supreme Court, has it been considered derogatory.



So....as far as the concept of prayer in the public arena, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


This may be my fav counter-post of the day.

So much to deal with....one hardly knows where to begin....but...it is thoughtful, and shows some background.....

OK.
1. Start with this:
"Although most social conservatives are also moderate Republicans, there are a few that support
1. killing homosexuals
2. reintroduction of slavery
3. teaching anti-scientific ideas
4. returning jews to Israel to fulfill end-time prophecies
5. A biblical based Government/Judicial system."

Every single one of those is absurd, and untrue....or a bastardization of the truth.
I say that based on what would be majority Republican and/or conservative perspective.
Really....Let's see you support those claims with numbers and documentation.

2. By 'teaching anti-scientific ideas' thing is, I suppose based on those who'd teach creationism along with Darwinian Evolution.
Your problem is that you fail to understand that there is equally as much proof for either one.
"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.


3. As far as "A biblical based Government/Judicial system"....there already is one:
"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience.

The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible t that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet


But a good post.

Time for a mid-course review.

1. The is no Far Right in this nation....but there certainly is a Far Left.

The thesis is based on the definitions involved:
To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."

"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)
It's what the radical Obama was getting at when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008. “



2. So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.

a. traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


b. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

c. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.




3. And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

Perhaps one or two more examples to prove how radical the Left is....and how the same cannot be shown to be true of the Right.


8. Let's take racialism.
The infamous, Democrat-inspired, Dred Scott decision made the nation a two-class nation based on skin color.
Clearly radical, when one considers that American values are memorialized in the Declaration of Independence ("All men are created equal").


Yet, under Democrat Lyndon Johnson....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Democrats....the Far Left.


What could have been done rather than awarding special benefits to melanin?
How about what John Kennedy did when the Russians beat us into space.....the government paid colleges and universities to offer science majors free books, and courses (the National Science Foundation grants).
It didn't declare war on Russia.
It didn't demand quotas of 'A's' and 'B's.'
And it certainly didn't endorse racialism, dividing the nation based on race.

9. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton

"Despite his disgrace, Morris continued to quietly advise the president. On Jan. 21, 1998, the day the Monica Lewinsky story broke in the mainstream press, Morris says Clinton called, explained that he had "slipped up" with Lewinsky and asked Morris to take a poll about the potential impact. When Morris reported that Americans would favor his impeachment or resignation if he lied under oath, he says Clinton replied: "Well, we'll just have to win, then." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/clinton/stories/morris020399.htm
And he was the choice of Democrats, Liberals, Progressives....


Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.


If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

See that!

I knew you could do it.....just needed a little coaxing.


"Your entire thread falls apart right at the beginning, because you defined your entire thesis on your opinion of what defines the center."


Well....let's define the center in the same way United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart described obscenity: "I know it when I see it."

And you, and everyone else, knows what traditional America values are.

A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

And, I'll add a few more today.




Can you come up with a similar list that flies in the face of time-honored, traditional American values to support the bogus concept, "Far Right"?


Take your time.


10. A very strong argument can be advanced that "Far Leftism" was introduced, and established, in America, under the 32nd President.


"Nonetheless, the promise of limited federal power eventually succumbed to the pressures of expanding federal power in the 20th century, most notably during the New Deal era and President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "court packing" scheme.[3] The turning point in Supreme Court jurisprudence on the subject is widely seen as United States v. Butler (1936). Although that decision struck down provisions within the Agricultural Adjustment Act as violating the Tenth Amendment, the court found that
...the power of Congress to authorize expenditure of public moneys for public purposes is not limited by the direct grants of legislative power found in the Constitution. —Justice Owen Roberts (1936)[4]


This represented the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power to provide for the general welfare of the United States.[4] They found it did, thus setting the stage for massive increases in federal spending, and consequent power, during the latter half of the 20th century.


A literal interpretation of Federalist No. 45 would indict much of the federal government's activities at that point as unconstitutional.[3]"
Federalist No. 45 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Get that?
"..... the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power..."
That's radical.
Hence....Far Left.


Until Roosevelt cowed the Supreme Court, prior administrations had generally lived within the constraints of the enumerated powers, Article 1, section 8.


Any similar attacks on the Constitution by the Right?

So sorry to interrupt your Far Left talking points...but there is no 'Far Right"
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


I hope you've learned from this lesson.

As the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
So....let's light up your post.

As structured in this thread, it is the comparison of a position with traditional American views that identify Far Left or Far Right:

4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Your post is clearly an attempt to paint an individual as an example of Far Right.
When I exposed your attempt to be 'even handed,' the role of any fence sitter....you simply wandered off.


I believe I've put you in your place by asking what positions of Cruz are Far Right.

11. Even more stringent than 'tradition' is 'protocol,' the official system of rules governing the nation. The Far Left has broken both tradition and protocol.
Has the Right attempted to erase American traditions, values, and history, those that represent the center?

Bet you Leftist indoctrinees never even considered that question.



The only document by which Americans have agreed to be governed is the United States Constitution.,...that's why it is known as 'the law of the land.'
Progressives have used radical beliefs as a lever to uproot the Constitution since the 19th century, but the complete overturning of the Constitution came under our 32nd President.


One can see the effect of Far Left action by considering prohibition, as compared to Roosevelt's invasion of the private home market- he set up Fannie Mae in 1938- and the creation of Social Security.

"Consider Prohibition: Up to 1919, everyone still understood that The Constitution did not give Congress authority to simply “pass a law” banning alcoholic beverages! So the Constitution was amended to prohibit alcoholic beverages, and to authorize Congress to make laws to enforce the prohibition (18th Amdt.).
Congress' Enumerated Powers - Freedom Outpost

Where are the amendments that authorize federal home mortgages, or old age insurance?



"....the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


During the regime of Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR), all three branches of the federal government abandoned the Constitution: FDR proposed “New Deal” programs; Congress passed them. At first, the Supreme Court ruled (generally 5 to 4) that these programs were unconstitutional as outside the legislative powers delegated to Congress. But when FDR threatened to “pack the court” by adding judges who would do his bidding, one judge flipped to the liberal/progressive side, and the Court started approving FDR’s programs (5 to 4)." Ibid.




What could be more radical and obverse to American tradition than abandoning the Constitution?
Far Left= Progressives, Liberals, Democrats.




And still no sign of 'a Far Right.'

Actually, there have been no examples of radical positions that would allow an appellation of "Far Right."

Perhaps you've missed some of these examples....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...


Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


Still waiting.

Speaking of the truth....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?
4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.



Pretend you are actually capable of thought.....and respond to the above.


'Radical' is what makes the Far Left just that.
And there aren't similar positions on the Right...as proven by the deafening silence when the Left is asked to counter the examples given.

Is the attempt to make America fascist, radical?
You betcha'!


12. "Perhaps the most radical aspect of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act, passed in June 1933, which created a massive new bureaucracy called the National Recovery Administration.

Under the NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement, ... Some economists have estimated that the NRA boosted the cost of doing business by an average of 40 percent — not something a depressed economy needed for recovery."
http://fee.org/media/12185/great-myths-print-final.pdf


"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.




Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...ignoring restrictions of the United States Constitution is a radical position.
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


No? None??? Not a single one???
See ....there is no Far Right in this nation.....only a bitter, powerful, totalitarian Far Left.
And you've been seduced into accepting its directions.

Well...then you should have no trouble showing which of the following are
"warped, distorted and wrong."

Go for it, you dope.


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Not only have Liberal simpletons, who have been trained, like seals, to accept each new radical position as though they were long-accepted beliefs, been unable to find examples of the Right comparable to those I've given a examples of Far Left.....
...but those aren't even the most obvious.

Like this:


13. Talk about radical positions: The Far Left's Gender-Agenda.

"If one feels more comfortable and happier living as the opposite sex, well that’s their business and not mine. As a staunch proponent of true freedom, I will never judge a person who took a personal decision to live a better life. Bruce Jenner’s sex change, however, was everything but personal. It was an orchestrated media event, blown-up to proportions so large that it has been turned into a grand ritual, a staged ceremony meant to push an agenda.

.... Jenner’s transformation was not intimate nor personal. It was a grand, ceremonial, ritualistic event that symbolizes a change in society as a whole. An important part of the elite’s agenda is to debase, confuse and mix up the natural, harmonious order of things. It is about steering away from what is real, pure and authentic to move towards to the fake, artificial and the constructed." The Agenda Behind Bruce Jenner's Transformation - The Vigilant Citizen - Understand the Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture




Any such assaults on traditional, biological, existential beliefs by the Right?
No?



That's right....there is no "Far Right"
The Right simply tries to hold back the totalitarian, coercive, corruptions of our traditions:
"Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules" The Battle to Roll Back Washington’s New Transgender Bathroom Rules

Well let's prove you're fibbing:

I provided these examples:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




See any repetition in those examples?

Me neither.


But...I do see you whining because you can't find a way to rebut any of the thread.
Tissue?




BTW.....let's see you predict the next example.
It's coming up shortly.

14. How about the mainstream press as an example of a radical attack on the history of same in America...a change for the worse.....one reason why so many accept the insane, radical position is the corrupt media...

Now the press is simply the 'amen corner' for the Far Left.


The first amendment provides special privilege to the fourth estate, based on the premise that it will, fairly, inform the public. It was understood that there could not be an informed public without a free and fair press.

The Far Left has slithered its way into control of the mainstream press....



The JournoList Scandal:
The media bias was clear to all when the JournoList Scandal hit: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties.

“…a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic … plotted to fix the damage.”
Documents show media plotting to kill stories about Rev. Jeremiah Wright


a. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”


b. …an anti-Christian culture among those who participated in the Journolist forum. In the context of coordinating this media attack on Sarah Palin, Daniel Levy apparently experienced no hesitation at all in using the word “Christian” as a characteristic that should be used to “scare people”:
“This seems to me like an occasion when the non-official campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official [Obama] campaign shouldn’t say – very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here – scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia[n] wing-nut a heartbeat away …… bang away at McCain’s age making this unusually significant …. I think people should be replicating some of the not-so-pleasant viral email campaigns that were used against [Obama].”
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/07/22/sarah-palins-scary-christianity/




Did you get that? The media was "the non-official Obama campaign."
Brings to mind 47 articles in the NYTimes about Bush and Abu Ghraib.
The Kremlin couldn't have done a better job!



There it is...the Far Left in action.
Let's see any of the simpletons come up with similar 'campaign' by the Right.

QED.....there is no Far Right.

I didn't use the name to prove the point.

I used ten specific examples.

These:

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinning in his grave





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

".... ("side" irrelevant)..."

I didn't know that you fence sitters proselytize.




"This thread is a perfect illustration of the perception distortions brought on by blind commitment to a hardcore partisan ideology."
Really?

So....why were none of you able to come up with examples to counter these?

Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Pretty clear that the imaginary concept 'Far Right' is simply one more lie by the Left to shield their egregious, radical ideology.

Are you trying to tell me that there is no far right in this country?


Nah.....just wondering why you are trying to ignore the data I've provided...

This:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?




2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?




4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,

LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to
American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."




7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.





8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.

Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....





9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?








10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Clear proof of the radical positions of the Far Left.....
...and also proof that you cannot find comparable positions by what would be a Far Right.


Please....don't stop revealing your irritation.

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.
 
So let me review...

1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.


Nah....Leftists ARE a mob.

1. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
a. Gustave was the second to bring up mass psychology, the first "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" was published in 1841 and was written by the Scottish journalist (back when they actually did real journalism) Charles Mackay, which exposed mass psychosis for the first time..... accounts of classic scams, grand-scale madness, and deceptions.

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds by Charles MacKay



Hitler, Mussolini...and their pal, Franklin Roosevelt.......Leftists all.



OMG!!!!!

This post is CLASSSIC!!!!!

The concept of irony has spent the entirety of its existence waiting for you to come along and give it meaning.


1. Did you actually post:
"....maybe you should worry more about when your rightwingnut ilk feel so threatened by asians that they put everyone asian into camps...."


2. Can you really be this stupid??????
Your demigod, Franklin Roosevelt, Democrat, Liberal, Progressive....totalitarian....did exactly that!!!!!!!
Gads....you put your foot not just in your mouth.....but up to your duodenum!!!!


3. More:
." Why did the [Roosevelt] administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.

Fair warning to you Leftists.....you may find the following a bit abstruse.....but it is the heart of the matter:


4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Any objection so far?


Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Let's go right for the head of the Far Left....Obama

7. The Obama administration is easily proven to be Far Left: he advanced, to a seat on the Supreme Court, a radical who does not believe in free speech, the first amendment.

"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."



In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."



Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."

If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut?



Any want to deny that free speech is a center of American tradition???
Anyone?



So....as far as the concept of free speech in America, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

"Hitler was a right wing loony, as are Cruz, Santorum, Huckaby, and many of the posters here."

Hitler was Leftist, as much as Stalin.
Both learned at the feet of Karl Marx.


Watch me smash a custard pie in your kisser:


"Hitler and the socialist dream

He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. "I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit".

German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

.....; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism." Hitler and the socialist dream



Pity you have no education, huh?
That's why you fall for every Leftist lie.


1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.

Really?

Well, then....let's smash another custard pie in your kisser:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


Let's take another example,.....


6. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer.'

"WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court on Monday narrowly upheld the centuries-old tradition of offering prayers to open government meetings, even if the prayers are overwhelmingly Christian and citizens are encouraged to participate.
The 5-4 ruling, supported by the court's conservative justices and opposed by its liberals, was based in large part on the history of legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution." Supreme Court upholds prayer at government meetings


See this? "... legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution."
Clearly this is at the center of American tradition.



But... "Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Yesterday, Joe Kennedy, an assistant high-school–football coach in Bremerton, Wash., was suspended. His offense? Kneeling for a short on-field prayer after football games. According to multiple news reports, for the last several years Kennedy has waited until each game ends and the players leave the field before walking to the 50-yard line and offering a quiet prayer for his students. He never asks anyone to join him, nor does he stop anyone who wants to do so."
Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Prayer and religiosity have always been part of this nation...from its inception. Only since totalitarian Franklin Roosevelt, as his first pick, put KKKer Hugo Black on the Supreme Court, has it been considered derogatory.



So....as far as the concept of prayer in the public arena, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


This may be my fav counter-post of the day.

So much to deal with....one hardly knows where to begin....but...it is thoughtful, and shows some background.....

OK.
1. Start with this:
"Although most social conservatives are also moderate Republicans, there are a few that support
1. killing homosexuals
2. reintroduction of slavery
3. teaching anti-scientific ideas
4. returning jews to Israel to fulfill end-time prophecies
5. A biblical based Government/Judicial system."

Every single one of those is absurd, and untrue....or a bastardization of the truth.
I say that based on what would be majority Republican and/or conservative perspective.
Really....Let's see you support those claims with numbers and documentation.

2. By 'teaching anti-scientific ideas' thing is, I suppose based on those who'd teach creationism along with Darwinian Evolution.
Your problem is that you fail to understand that there is equally as much proof for either one.
"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.


3. As far as "A biblical based Government/Judicial system"....there already is one:
"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience.

The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible t that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet


But a good post.

Time for a mid-course review.

1. The is no Far Right in this nation....but there certainly is a Far Left.

The thesis is based on the definitions involved:
To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."

"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)
It's what the radical Obama was getting at when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008. “



2. So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.

a. traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


b. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

c. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.




3. And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

Perhaps one or two more examples to prove how radical the Left is....and how the same cannot be shown to be true of the Right.


8. Let's take racialism.
The infamous, Democrat-inspired, Dred Scott decision made the nation a two-class nation based on skin color.
Clearly radical, when one considers that American values are memorialized in the Declaration of Independence ("All men are created equal").


Yet, under Democrat Lyndon Johnson....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Democrats....the Far Left.


What could have been done rather than awarding special benefits to melanin?
How about what John Kennedy did when the Russians beat us into space.....the government paid colleges and universities to offer science majors free books, and courses (the National Science Foundation grants).
It didn't declare war on Russia.
It didn't demand quotas of 'A's' and 'B's.'
And it certainly didn't endorse racialism, dividing the nation based on race.

9. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton

"Despite his disgrace, Morris continued to quietly advise the president. On Jan. 21, 1998, the day the Monica Lewinsky story broke in the mainstream press, Morris says Clinton called, explained that he had "slipped up" with Lewinsky and asked Morris to take a poll about the potential impact. When Morris reported that Americans would favor his impeachment or resignation if he lied under oath, he says Clinton replied: "Well, we'll just have to win, then." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/clinton/stories/morris020399.htm
And he was the choice of Democrats, Liberals, Progressives....


Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.


If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

See that!

I knew you could do it.....just needed a little coaxing.


"Your entire thread falls apart right at the beginning, because you defined your entire thesis on your opinion of what defines the center."


Well....let's define the center in the same way United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart described obscenity: "I know it when I see it."

And you, and everyone else, knows what traditional America values are.

A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

And, I'll add a few more today.




Can you come up with a similar list that flies in the face of time-honored, traditional American values to support the bogus concept, "Far Right"?


Take your time.


10. A very strong argument can be advanced that "Far Leftism" was introduced, and established, in America, under the 32nd President.


"Nonetheless, the promise of limited federal power eventually succumbed to the pressures of expanding federal power in the 20th century, most notably during the New Deal era and President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "court packing" scheme.[3] The turning point in Supreme Court jurisprudence on the subject is widely seen as United States v. Butler (1936). Although that decision struck down provisions within the Agricultural Adjustment Act as violating the Tenth Amendment, the court found that
...the power of Congress to authorize expenditure of public moneys for public purposes is not limited by the direct grants of legislative power found in the Constitution. —Justice Owen Roberts (1936)[4]


This represented the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power to provide for the general welfare of the United States.[4] They found it did, thus setting the stage for massive increases in federal spending, and consequent power, during the latter half of the 20th century.


A literal interpretation of Federalist No. 45 would indict much of the federal government's activities at that point as unconstitutional.[3]"
Federalist No. 45 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Get that?
"..... the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power..."
That's radical.
Hence....Far Left.


Until Roosevelt cowed the Supreme Court, prior administrations had generally lived within the constraints of the enumerated powers, Article 1, section 8.


Any similar attacks on the Constitution by the Right?

So sorry to interrupt your Far Left talking points...but there is no 'Far Right"
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


I hope you've learned from this lesson.

As the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
So....let's light up your post.

As structured in this thread, it is the comparison of a position with traditional American views that identify Far Left or Far Right:

4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Your post is clearly an attempt to paint an individual as an example of Far Right.
When I exposed your attempt to be 'even handed,' the role of any fence sitter....you simply wandered off.


I believe I've put you in your place by asking what positions of Cruz are Far Right.

11. Even more stringent than 'tradition' is 'protocol,' the official system of rules governing the nation. The Far Left has broken both tradition and protocol.
Has the Right attempted to erase American traditions, values, and history, those that represent the center?

Bet you Leftist indoctrinees never even considered that question.



The only document by which Americans have agreed to be governed is the United States Constitution.,...that's why it is known as 'the law of the land.'
Progressives have used radical beliefs as a lever to uproot the Constitution since the 19th century, but the complete overturning of the Constitution came under our 32nd President.


One can see the effect of Far Left action by considering prohibition, as compared to Roosevelt's invasion of the private home market- he set up Fannie Mae in 1938- and the creation of Social Security.

"Consider Prohibition: Up to 1919, everyone still understood that The Constitution did not give Congress authority to simply “pass a law” banning alcoholic beverages! So the Constitution was amended to prohibit alcoholic beverages, and to authorize Congress to make laws to enforce the prohibition (18th Amdt.).
Congress' Enumerated Powers - Freedom Outpost

Where are the amendments that authorize federal home mortgages, or old age insurance?



"....the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


During the regime of Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR), all three branches of the federal government abandoned the Constitution: FDR proposed “New Deal” programs; Congress passed them. At first, the Supreme Court ruled (generally 5 to 4) that these programs were unconstitutional as outside the legislative powers delegated to Congress. But when FDR threatened to “pack the court” by adding judges who would do his bidding, one judge flipped to the liberal/progressive side, and the Court started approving FDR’s programs (5 to 4)." Ibid.




What could be more radical and obverse to American tradition than abandoning the Constitution?
Far Left= Progressives, Liberals, Democrats.




And still no sign of 'a Far Right.'

Actually, there have been no examples of radical positions that would allow an appellation of "Far Right."

Perhaps you've missed some of these examples....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...


Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


Still waiting.

Speaking of the truth....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?
4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.



Pretend you are actually capable of thought.....and respond to the above.


'Radical' is what makes the Far Left just that.
And there aren't similar positions on the Right...as proven by the deafening silence when the Left is asked to counter the examples given.

Is the attempt to make America fascist, radical?
You betcha'!


12. "Perhaps the most radical aspect of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act, passed in June 1933, which created a massive new bureaucracy called the National Recovery Administration.

Under the NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement, ... Some economists have estimated that the NRA boosted the cost of doing business by an average of 40 percent — not something a depressed economy needed for recovery."
http://fee.org/media/12185/great-myths-print-final.pdf


"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.




Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...ignoring restrictions of the United States Constitution is a radical position.
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


No? None??? Not a single one???
See ....there is no Far Right in this nation.....only a bitter, powerful, totalitarian Far Left.
And you've been seduced into accepting its directions.

Well...then you should have no trouble showing which of the following are
"warped, distorted and wrong."

Go for it, you dope.


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Not only have Liberal simpletons, who have been trained, like seals, to accept each new radical position as though they were long-accepted beliefs, been unable to find examples of the Right comparable to those I've given a examples of Far Left.....
...but those aren't even the most obvious.

Like this:


13. Talk about radical positions: The Far Left's Gender-Agenda.

"If one feels more comfortable and happier living as the opposite sex, well that’s their business and not mine. As a staunch proponent of true freedom, I will never judge a person who took a personal decision to live a better life. Bruce Jenner’s sex change, however, was everything but personal. It was an orchestrated media event, blown-up to proportions so large that it has been turned into a grand ritual, a staged ceremony meant to push an agenda.

.... Jenner’s transformation was not intimate nor personal. It was a grand, ceremonial, ritualistic event that symbolizes a change in society as a whole. An important part of the elite’s agenda is to debase, confuse and mix up the natural, harmonious order of things. It is about steering away from what is real, pure and authentic to move towards to the fake, artificial and the constructed." The Agenda Behind Bruce Jenner's Transformation - The Vigilant Citizen - Understand the Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture




Any such assaults on traditional, biological, existential beliefs by the Right?
No?



That's right....there is no "Far Right"
The Right simply tries to hold back the totalitarian, coercive, corruptions of our traditions:
"Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules" The Battle to Roll Back Washington’s New Transgender Bathroom Rules

Well let's prove you're fibbing:

I provided these examples:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




See any repetition in those examples?

Me neither.


But...I do see you whining because you can't find a way to rebut any of the thread.
Tissue?




BTW.....let's see you predict the next example.
It's coming up shortly.

14. How about the mainstream press as an example of a radical attack on the history of same in America...a change for the worse.....one reason why so many accept the insane, radical position is the corrupt media...

Now the press is simply the 'amen corner' for the Far Left.


The first amendment provides special privilege to the fourth estate, based on the premise that it will, fairly, inform the public. It was understood that there could not be an informed public without a free and fair press.

The Far Left has slithered its way into control of the mainstream press....



The JournoList Scandal:
The media bias was clear to all when the JournoList Scandal hit: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties.

“…a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic … plotted to fix the damage.”
Documents show media plotting to kill stories about Rev. Jeremiah Wright


a. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”


b. …an anti-Christian culture among those who participated in the Journolist forum. In the context of coordinating this media attack on Sarah Palin, Daniel Levy apparently experienced no hesitation at all in using the word “Christian” as a characteristic that should be used to “scare people”:
“This seems to me like an occasion when the non-official campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official [Obama] campaign shouldn’t say – very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here – scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia[n] wing-nut a heartbeat away …… bang away at McCain’s age making this unusually significant …. I think people should be replicating some of the not-so-pleasant viral email campaigns that were used against [Obama].”
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/07/22/sarah-palins-scary-christianity/




Did you get that? The media was "the non-official Obama campaign."
Brings to mind 47 articles in the NYTimes about Bush and Abu Ghraib.
The Kremlin couldn't have done a better job!



There it is...the Far Left in action.
Let's see any of the simpletons come up with similar 'campaign' by the Right.

QED.....there is no Far Right.

I didn't use the name to prove the point.

I used ten specific examples.

These:

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinning in his grave





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

".... ("side" irrelevant)..."

I didn't know that you fence sitters proselytize.




"This thread is a perfect illustration of the perception distortions brought on by blind commitment to a hardcore partisan ideology."
Really?

So....why were none of you able to come up with examples to counter these?

Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Pretty clear that the imaginary concept 'Far Right' is simply one more lie by the Left to shield their egregious, radical ideology.

Are you trying to tell me that there is no far right in this country?


Nah.....just wondering why you are trying to ignore the data I've provided...

This:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?




2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?




4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,

LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to
American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."




7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.





8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.

Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....





9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?








10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Clear proof of the radical positions of the Far Left.....
...and also proof that you cannot find comparable positions by what would be a Far Right.


Please....don't stop revealing your irritation.

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.



Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.
 
So let me review...

1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.


Nah....Leftists ARE a mob.

1. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
a. Gustave was the second to bring up mass psychology, the first "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" was published in 1841 and was written by the Scottish journalist (back when they actually did real journalism) Charles Mackay, which exposed mass psychosis for the first time..... accounts of classic scams, grand-scale madness, and deceptions.

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds by Charles MacKay



Hitler, Mussolini...and their pal, Franklin Roosevelt.......Leftists all.



OMG!!!!!

This post is CLASSSIC!!!!!

The concept of irony has spent the entirety of its existence waiting for you to come along and give it meaning.


1. Did you actually post:
"....maybe you should worry more about when your rightwingnut ilk feel so threatened by asians that they put everyone asian into camps...."


2. Can you really be this stupid??????
Your demigod, Franklin Roosevelt, Democrat, Liberal, Progressive....totalitarian....did exactly that!!!!!!!
Gads....you put your foot not just in your mouth.....but up to your duodenum!!!!


3. More:
." Why did the [Roosevelt] administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.

Fair warning to you Leftists.....you may find the following a bit abstruse.....but it is the heart of the matter:


4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Any objection so far?


Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Let's go right for the head of the Far Left....Obama

7. The Obama administration is easily proven to be Far Left: he advanced, to a seat on the Supreme Court, a radical who does not believe in free speech, the first amendment.

"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."



In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."



Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."

If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut?



Any want to deny that free speech is a center of American tradition???
Anyone?



So....as far as the concept of free speech in America, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

"Hitler was a right wing loony, as are Cruz, Santorum, Huckaby, and many of the posters here."

Hitler was Leftist, as much as Stalin.
Both learned at the feet of Karl Marx.


Watch me smash a custard pie in your kisser:


"Hitler and the socialist dream

He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. "I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit".

German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

.....; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism." Hitler and the socialist dream



Pity you have no education, huh?
That's why you fall for every Leftist lie.


1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.

Really?

Well, then....let's smash another custard pie in your kisser:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


Let's take another example,.....


6. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer.'

"WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court on Monday narrowly upheld the centuries-old tradition of offering prayers to open government meetings, even if the prayers are overwhelmingly Christian and citizens are encouraged to participate.
The 5-4 ruling, supported by the court's conservative justices and opposed by its liberals, was based in large part on the history of legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution." Supreme Court upholds prayer at government meetings


See this? "... legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution."
Clearly this is at the center of American tradition.



But... "Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Yesterday, Joe Kennedy, an assistant high-school–football coach in Bremerton, Wash., was suspended. His offense? Kneeling for a short on-field prayer after football games. According to multiple news reports, for the last several years Kennedy has waited until each game ends and the players leave the field before walking to the 50-yard line and offering a quiet prayer for his students. He never asks anyone to join him, nor does he stop anyone who wants to do so."
Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Prayer and religiosity have always been part of this nation...from its inception. Only since totalitarian Franklin Roosevelt, as his first pick, put KKKer Hugo Black on the Supreme Court, has it been considered derogatory.



So....as far as the concept of prayer in the public arena, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


This may be my fav counter-post of the day.

So much to deal with....one hardly knows where to begin....but...it is thoughtful, and shows some background.....

OK.
1. Start with this:
"Although most social conservatives are also moderate Republicans, there are a few that support
1. killing homosexuals
2. reintroduction of slavery
3. teaching anti-scientific ideas
4. returning jews to Israel to fulfill end-time prophecies
5. A biblical based Government/Judicial system."

Every single one of those is absurd, and untrue....or a bastardization of the truth.
I say that based on what would be majority Republican and/or conservative perspective.
Really....Let's see you support those claims with numbers and documentation.

2. By 'teaching anti-scientific ideas' thing is, I suppose based on those who'd teach creationism along with Darwinian Evolution.
Your problem is that you fail to understand that there is equally as much proof for either one.
"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.


3. As far as "A biblical based Government/Judicial system"....there already is one:
"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience.

The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible t that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet


But a good post.

Time for a mid-course review.

1. The is no Far Right in this nation....but there certainly is a Far Left.

The thesis is based on the definitions involved:
To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."

"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)
It's what the radical Obama was getting at when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008. “



2. So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.

a. traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


b. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

c. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.




3. And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

Perhaps one or two more examples to prove how radical the Left is....and how the same cannot be shown to be true of the Right.


8. Let's take racialism.
The infamous, Democrat-inspired, Dred Scott decision made the nation a two-class nation based on skin color.
Clearly radical, when one considers that American values are memorialized in the Declaration of Independence ("All men are created equal").


Yet, under Democrat Lyndon Johnson....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Democrats....the Far Left.


What could have been done rather than awarding special benefits to melanin?
How about what John Kennedy did when the Russians beat us into space.....the government paid colleges and universities to offer science majors free books, and courses (the National Science Foundation grants).
It didn't declare war on Russia.
It didn't demand quotas of 'A's' and 'B's.'
And it certainly didn't endorse racialism, dividing the nation based on race.

9. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton

"Despite his disgrace, Morris continued to quietly advise the president. On Jan. 21, 1998, the day the Monica Lewinsky story broke in the mainstream press, Morris says Clinton called, explained that he had "slipped up" with Lewinsky and asked Morris to take a poll about the potential impact. When Morris reported that Americans would favor his impeachment or resignation if he lied under oath, he says Clinton replied: "Well, we'll just have to win, then." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/clinton/stories/morris020399.htm
And he was the choice of Democrats, Liberals, Progressives....


Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.


If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

See that!

I knew you could do it.....just needed a little coaxing.


"Your entire thread falls apart right at the beginning, because you defined your entire thesis on your opinion of what defines the center."


Well....let's define the center in the same way United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart described obscenity: "I know it when I see it."

And you, and everyone else, knows what traditional America values are.

A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

And, I'll add a few more today.




Can you come up with a similar list that flies in the face of time-honored, traditional American values to support the bogus concept, "Far Right"?


Take your time.


10. A very strong argument can be advanced that "Far Leftism" was introduced, and established, in America, under the 32nd President.


"Nonetheless, the promise of limited federal power eventually succumbed to the pressures of expanding federal power in the 20th century, most notably during the New Deal era and President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "court packing" scheme.[3] The turning point in Supreme Court jurisprudence on the subject is widely seen as United States v. Butler (1936). Although that decision struck down provisions within the Agricultural Adjustment Act as violating the Tenth Amendment, the court found that
...the power of Congress to authorize expenditure of public moneys for public purposes is not limited by the direct grants of legislative power found in the Constitution. —Justice Owen Roberts (1936)[4]


This represented the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power to provide for the general welfare of the United States.[4] They found it did, thus setting the stage for massive increases in federal spending, and consequent power, during the latter half of the 20th century.


A literal interpretation of Federalist No. 45 would indict much of the federal government's activities at that point as unconstitutional.[3]"
Federalist No. 45 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Get that?
"..... the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power..."
That's radical.
Hence....Far Left.


Until Roosevelt cowed the Supreme Court, prior administrations had generally lived within the constraints of the enumerated powers, Article 1, section 8.


Any similar attacks on the Constitution by the Right?

So sorry to interrupt your Far Left talking points...but there is no 'Far Right"
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


I hope you've learned from this lesson.

As the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
So....let's light up your post.

As structured in this thread, it is the comparison of a position with traditional American views that identify Far Left or Far Right:

4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Your post is clearly an attempt to paint an individual as an example of Far Right.
When I exposed your attempt to be 'even handed,' the role of any fence sitter....you simply wandered off.


I believe I've put you in your place by asking what positions of Cruz are Far Right.

11. Even more stringent than 'tradition' is 'protocol,' the official system of rules governing the nation. The Far Left has broken both tradition and protocol.
Has the Right attempted to erase American traditions, values, and history, those that represent the center?

Bet you Leftist indoctrinees never even considered that question.



The only document by which Americans have agreed to be governed is the United States Constitution.,...that's why it is known as 'the law of the land.'
Progressives have used radical beliefs as a lever to uproot the Constitution since the 19th century, but the complete overturning of the Constitution came under our 32nd President.


One can see the effect of Far Left action by considering prohibition, as compared to Roosevelt's invasion of the private home market- he set up Fannie Mae in 1938- and the creation of Social Security.

"Consider Prohibition: Up to 1919, everyone still understood that The Constitution did not give Congress authority to simply “pass a law” banning alcoholic beverages! So the Constitution was amended to prohibit alcoholic beverages, and to authorize Congress to make laws to enforce the prohibition (18th Amdt.).
Congress' Enumerated Powers - Freedom Outpost

Where are the amendments that authorize federal home mortgages, or old age insurance?



"....the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


During the regime of Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR), all three branches of the federal government abandoned the Constitution: FDR proposed “New Deal” programs; Congress passed them. At first, the Supreme Court ruled (generally 5 to 4) that these programs were unconstitutional as outside the legislative powers delegated to Congress. But when FDR threatened to “pack the court” by adding judges who would do his bidding, one judge flipped to the liberal/progressive side, and the Court started approving FDR’s programs (5 to 4)." Ibid.




What could be more radical and obverse to American tradition than abandoning the Constitution?
Far Left= Progressives, Liberals, Democrats.




And still no sign of 'a Far Right.'

Actually, there have been no examples of radical positions that would allow an appellation of "Far Right."

Perhaps you've missed some of these examples....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...


Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


Still waiting.

Speaking of the truth....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?
4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.



Pretend you are actually capable of thought.....and respond to the above.


'Radical' is what makes the Far Left just that.
And there aren't similar positions on the Right...as proven by the deafening silence when the Left is asked to counter the examples given.

Is the attempt to make America fascist, radical?
You betcha'!


12. "Perhaps the most radical aspect of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act, passed in June 1933, which created a massive new bureaucracy called the National Recovery Administration.

Under the NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement, ... Some economists have estimated that the NRA boosted the cost of doing business by an average of 40 percent — not something a depressed economy needed for recovery."
http://fee.org/media/12185/great-myths-print-final.pdf


"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.




Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...ignoring restrictions of the United States Constitution is a radical position.
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


No? None??? Not a single one???
See ....there is no Far Right in this nation.....only a bitter, powerful, totalitarian Far Left.
And you've been seduced into accepting its directions.

Well...then you should have no trouble showing which of the following are
"warped, distorted and wrong."

Go for it, you dope.


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Not only have Liberal simpletons, who have been trained, like seals, to accept each new radical position as though they were long-accepted beliefs, been unable to find examples of the Right comparable to those I've given a examples of Far Left.....
...but those aren't even the most obvious.

Like this:


13. Talk about radical positions: The Far Left's Gender-Agenda.

"If one feels more comfortable and happier living as the opposite sex, well that’s their business and not mine. As a staunch proponent of true freedom, I will never judge a person who took a personal decision to live a better life. Bruce Jenner’s sex change, however, was everything but personal. It was an orchestrated media event, blown-up to proportions so large that it has been turned into a grand ritual, a staged ceremony meant to push an agenda.

.... Jenner’s transformation was not intimate nor personal. It was a grand, ceremonial, ritualistic event that symbolizes a change in society as a whole. An important part of the elite’s agenda is to debase, confuse and mix up the natural, harmonious order of things. It is about steering away from what is real, pure and authentic to move towards to the fake, artificial and the constructed." The Agenda Behind Bruce Jenner's Transformation - The Vigilant Citizen - Understand the Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture




Any such assaults on traditional, biological, existential beliefs by the Right?
No?



That's right....there is no "Far Right"
The Right simply tries to hold back the totalitarian, coercive, corruptions of our traditions:
"Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules" The Battle to Roll Back Washington’s New Transgender Bathroom Rules

Well let's prove you're fibbing:

I provided these examples:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




See any repetition in those examples?

Me neither.


But...I do see you whining because you can't find a way to rebut any of the thread.
Tissue?




BTW.....let's see you predict the next example.
It's coming up shortly.

14. How about the mainstream press as an example of a radical attack on the history of same in America...a change for the worse.....one reason why so many accept the insane, radical position is the corrupt media...

Now the press is simply the 'amen corner' for the Far Left.


The first amendment provides special privilege to the fourth estate, based on the premise that it will, fairly, inform the public. It was understood that there could not be an informed public without a free and fair press.

The Far Left has slithered its way into control of the mainstream press....



The JournoList Scandal:
The media bias was clear to all when the JournoList Scandal hit: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties.

“…a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic … plotted to fix the damage.”
Documents show media plotting to kill stories about Rev. Jeremiah Wright


a. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”


b. …an anti-Christian culture among those who participated in the Journolist forum. In the context of coordinating this media attack on Sarah Palin, Daniel Levy apparently experienced no hesitation at all in using the word “Christian” as a characteristic that should be used to “scare people”:
“This seems to me like an occasion when the non-official campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official [Obama] campaign shouldn’t say – very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here – scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia[n] wing-nut a heartbeat away …… bang away at McCain’s age making this unusually significant …. I think people should be replicating some of the not-so-pleasant viral email campaigns that were used against [Obama].”
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/07/22/sarah-palins-scary-christianity/




Did you get that? The media was "the non-official Obama campaign."
Brings to mind 47 articles in the NYTimes about Bush and Abu Ghraib.
The Kremlin couldn't have done a better job!



There it is...the Far Left in action.
Let's see any of the simpletons come up with similar 'campaign' by the Right.

QED.....there is no Far Right.

I didn't use the name to prove the point.

I used ten specific examples.

These:

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinning in his grave





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

".... ("side" irrelevant)..."

I didn't know that you fence sitters proselytize.




"This thread is a perfect illustration of the perception distortions brought on by blind commitment to a hardcore partisan ideology."
Really?

So....why were none of you able to come up with examples to counter these?

Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Pretty clear that the imaginary concept 'Far Right' is simply one more lie by the Left to shield their egregious, radical ideology.

Are you trying to tell me that there is no far right in this country?


Nah.....just wondering why you are trying to ignore the data I've provided...

This:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?




2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?




4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,

LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to
American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."




7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.





8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.

Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....





9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?








10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Clear proof of the radical positions of the Far Left.....
...and also proof that you cannot find comparable positions by what would be a Far Right.


Please....don't stop revealing your irritation.

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.



Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.

To tell you the truth, I haven't actually read anything that you have cut and pasted in this thread.
 
So let me review...

1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.


Nah....Leftists ARE a mob.

1. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
a. Gustave was the second to bring up mass psychology, the first "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" was published in 1841 and was written by the Scottish journalist (back when they actually did real journalism) Charles Mackay, which exposed mass psychosis for the first time..... accounts of classic scams, grand-scale madness, and deceptions.

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds by Charles MacKay



Hitler, Mussolini...and their pal, Franklin Roosevelt.......Leftists all.



OMG!!!!!

This post is CLASSSIC!!!!!

The concept of irony has spent the entirety of its existence waiting for you to come along and give it meaning.


1. Did you actually post:
"....maybe you should worry more about when your rightwingnut ilk feel so threatened by asians that they put everyone asian into camps...."


2. Can you really be this stupid??????
Your demigod, Franklin Roosevelt, Democrat, Liberal, Progressive....totalitarian....did exactly that!!!!!!!
Gads....you put your foot not just in your mouth.....but up to your duodenum!!!!


3. More:
." Why did the [Roosevelt] administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.

Fair warning to you Leftists.....you may find the following a bit abstruse.....but it is the heart of the matter:


4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Any objection so far?


Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Let's go right for the head of the Far Left....Obama

7. The Obama administration is easily proven to be Far Left: he advanced, to a seat on the Supreme Court, a radical who does not believe in free speech, the first amendment.

"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."



In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."



Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."

If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut?



Any want to deny that free speech is a center of American tradition???
Anyone?



So....as far as the concept of free speech in America, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

"Hitler was a right wing loony, as are Cruz, Santorum, Huckaby, and many of the posters here."

Hitler was Leftist, as much as Stalin.
Both learned at the feet of Karl Marx.


Watch me smash a custard pie in your kisser:


"Hitler and the socialist dream

He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. "I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit".

German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

.....; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism." Hitler and the socialist dream



Pity you have no education, huh?
That's why you fall for every Leftist lie.


1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.

Really?

Well, then....let's smash another custard pie in your kisser:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


Let's take another example,.....


6. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer.'

"WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court on Monday narrowly upheld the centuries-old tradition of offering prayers to open government meetings, even if the prayers are overwhelmingly Christian and citizens are encouraged to participate.
The 5-4 ruling, supported by the court's conservative justices and opposed by its liberals, was based in large part on the history of legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution." Supreme Court upholds prayer at government meetings


See this? "... legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution."
Clearly this is at the center of American tradition.



But... "Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Yesterday, Joe Kennedy, an assistant high-school–football coach in Bremerton, Wash., was suspended. His offense? Kneeling for a short on-field prayer after football games. According to multiple news reports, for the last several years Kennedy has waited until each game ends and the players leave the field before walking to the 50-yard line and offering a quiet prayer for his students. He never asks anyone to join him, nor does he stop anyone who wants to do so."
Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Prayer and religiosity have always been part of this nation...from its inception. Only since totalitarian Franklin Roosevelt, as his first pick, put KKKer Hugo Black on the Supreme Court, has it been considered derogatory.



So....as far as the concept of prayer in the public arena, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


This may be my fav counter-post of the day.

So much to deal with....one hardly knows where to begin....but...it is thoughtful, and shows some background.....

OK.
1. Start with this:
"Although most social conservatives are also moderate Republicans, there are a few that support
1. killing homosexuals
2. reintroduction of slavery
3. teaching anti-scientific ideas
4. returning jews to Israel to fulfill end-time prophecies
5. A biblical based Government/Judicial system."

Every single one of those is absurd, and untrue....or a bastardization of the truth.
I say that based on what would be majority Republican and/or conservative perspective.
Really....Let's see you support those claims with numbers and documentation.

2. By 'teaching anti-scientific ideas' thing is, I suppose based on those who'd teach creationism along with Darwinian Evolution.
Your problem is that you fail to understand that there is equally as much proof for either one.
"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.


3. As far as "A biblical based Government/Judicial system"....there already is one:
"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience.

The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible t that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet


But a good post.

Time for a mid-course review.

1. The is no Far Right in this nation....but there certainly is a Far Left.

The thesis is based on the definitions involved:
To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."

"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)
It's what the radical Obama was getting at when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008. “



2. So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.

a. traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


b. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

c. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.




3. And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

Perhaps one or two more examples to prove how radical the Left is....and how the same cannot be shown to be true of the Right.


8. Let's take racialism.
The infamous, Democrat-inspired, Dred Scott decision made the nation a two-class nation based on skin color.
Clearly radical, when one considers that American values are memorialized in the Declaration of Independence ("All men are created equal").


Yet, under Democrat Lyndon Johnson....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Democrats....the Far Left.


What could have been done rather than awarding special benefits to melanin?
How about what John Kennedy did when the Russians beat us into space.....the government paid colleges and universities to offer science majors free books, and courses (the National Science Foundation grants).
It didn't declare war on Russia.
It didn't demand quotas of 'A's' and 'B's.'
And it certainly didn't endorse racialism, dividing the nation based on race.

9. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton

"Despite his disgrace, Morris continued to quietly advise the president. On Jan. 21, 1998, the day the Monica Lewinsky story broke in the mainstream press, Morris says Clinton called, explained that he had "slipped up" with Lewinsky and asked Morris to take a poll about the potential impact. When Morris reported that Americans would favor his impeachment or resignation if he lied under oath, he says Clinton replied: "Well, we'll just have to win, then." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/clinton/stories/morris020399.htm
And he was the choice of Democrats, Liberals, Progressives....


Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.


If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

See that!

I knew you could do it.....just needed a little coaxing.


"Your entire thread falls apart right at the beginning, because you defined your entire thesis on your opinion of what defines the center."


Well....let's define the center in the same way United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart described obscenity: "I know it when I see it."

And you, and everyone else, knows what traditional America values are.

A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

And, I'll add a few more today.




Can you come up with a similar list that flies in the face of time-honored, traditional American values to support the bogus concept, "Far Right"?


Take your time.


10. A very strong argument can be advanced that "Far Leftism" was introduced, and established, in America, under the 32nd President.


"Nonetheless, the promise of limited federal power eventually succumbed to the pressures of expanding federal power in the 20th century, most notably during the New Deal era and President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "court packing" scheme.[3] The turning point in Supreme Court jurisprudence on the subject is widely seen as United States v. Butler (1936). Although that decision struck down provisions within the Agricultural Adjustment Act as violating the Tenth Amendment, the court found that
...the power of Congress to authorize expenditure of public moneys for public purposes is not limited by the direct grants of legislative power found in the Constitution. —Justice Owen Roberts (1936)[4]


This represented the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power to provide for the general welfare of the United States.[4] They found it did, thus setting the stage for massive increases in federal spending, and consequent power, during the latter half of the 20th century.


A literal interpretation of Federalist No. 45 would indict much of the federal government's activities at that point as unconstitutional.[3]"
Federalist No. 45 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Get that?
"..... the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power..."
That's radical.
Hence....Far Left.


Until Roosevelt cowed the Supreme Court, prior administrations had generally lived within the constraints of the enumerated powers, Article 1, section 8.


Any similar attacks on the Constitution by the Right?

So sorry to interrupt your Far Left talking points...but there is no 'Far Right"
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


I hope you've learned from this lesson.

As the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
So....let's light up your post.

As structured in this thread, it is the comparison of a position with traditional American views that identify Far Left or Far Right:

4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Your post is clearly an attempt to paint an individual as an example of Far Right.
When I exposed your attempt to be 'even handed,' the role of any fence sitter....you simply wandered off.


I believe I've put you in your place by asking what positions of Cruz are Far Right.

11. Even more stringent than 'tradition' is 'protocol,' the official system of rules governing the nation. The Far Left has broken both tradition and protocol.
Has the Right attempted to erase American traditions, values, and history, those that represent the center?

Bet you Leftist indoctrinees never even considered that question.



The only document by which Americans have agreed to be governed is the United States Constitution.,...that's why it is known as 'the law of the land.'
Progressives have used radical beliefs as a lever to uproot the Constitution since the 19th century, but the complete overturning of the Constitution came under our 32nd President.


One can see the effect of Far Left action by considering prohibition, as compared to Roosevelt's invasion of the private home market- he set up Fannie Mae in 1938- and the creation of Social Security.

"Consider Prohibition: Up to 1919, everyone still understood that The Constitution did not give Congress authority to simply “pass a law” banning alcoholic beverages! So the Constitution was amended to prohibit alcoholic beverages, and to authorize Congress to make laws to enforce the prohibition (18th Amdt.).
Congress' Enumerated Powers - Freedom Outpost

Where are the amendments that authorize federal home mortgages, or old age insurance?



"....the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


During the regime of Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR), all three branches of the federal government abandoned the Constitution: FDR proposed “New Deal” programs; Congress passed them. At first, the Supreme Court ruled (generally 5 to 4) that these programs were unconstitutional as outside the legislative powers delegated to Congress. But when FDR threatened to “pack the court” by adding judges who would do his bidding, one judge flipped to the liberal/progressive side, and the Court started approving FDR’s programs (5 to 4)." Ibid.




What could be more radical and obverse to American tradition than abandoning the Constitution?
Far Left= Progressives, Liberals, Democrats.




And still no sign of 'a Far Right.'

Actually, there have been no examples of radical positions that would allow an appellation of "Far Right."

Perhaps you've missed some of these examples....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...


Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


Still waiting.

Speaking of the truth....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?
4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.



Pretend you are actually capable of thought.....and respond to the above.


'Radical' is what makes the Far Left just that.
And there aren't similar positions on the Right...as proven by the deafening silence when the Left is asked to counter the examples given.

Is the attempt to make America fascist, radical?
You betcha'!


12. "Perhaps the most radical aspect of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act, passed in June 1933, which created a massive new bureaucracy called the National Recovery Administration.

Under the NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement, ... Some economists have estimated that the NRA boosted the cost of doing business by an average of 40 percent — not something a depressed economy needed for recovery."
http://fee.org/media/12185/great-myths-print-final.pdf


"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.




Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...ignoring restrictions of the United States Constitution is a radical position.
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


No? None??? Not a single one???
See ....there is no Far Right in this nation.....only a bitter, powerful, totalitarian Far Left.
And you've been seduced into accepting its directions.

Well...then you should have no trouble showing which of the following are
"warped, distorted and wrong."

Go for it, you dope.


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Not only have Liberal simpletons, who have been trained, like seals, to accept each new radical position as though they were long-accepted beliefs, been unable to find examples of the Right comparable to those I've given a examples of Far Left.....
...but those aren't even the most obvious.

Like this:


13. Talk about radical positions: The Far Left's Gender-Agenda.

"If one feels more comfortable and happier living as the opposite sex, well that’s their business and not mine. As a staunch proponent of true freedom, I will never judge a person who took a personal decision to live a better life. Bruce Jenner’s sex change, however, was everything but personal. It was an orchestrated media event, blown-up to proportions so large that it has been turned into a grand ritual, a staged ceremony meant to push an agenda.

.... Jenner’s transformation was not intimate nor personal. It was a grand, ceremonial, ritualistic event that symbolizes a change in society as a whole. An important part of the elite’s agenda is to debase, confuse and mix up the natural, harmonious order of things. It is about steering away from what is real, pure and authentic to move towards to the fake, artificial and the constructed." The Agenda Behind Bruce Jenner's Transformation - The Vigilant Citizen - Understand the Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture




Any such assaults on traditional, biological, existential beliefs by the Right?
No?



That's right....there is no "Far Right"
The Right simply tries to hold back the totalitarian, coercive, corruptions of our traditions:
"Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules" The Battle to Roll Back Washington’s New Transgender Bathroom Rules

Well let's prove you're fibbing:

I provided these examples:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




See any repetition in those examples?

Me neither.


But...I do see you whining because you can't find a way to rebut any of the thread.
Tissue?




BTW.....let's see you predict the next example.
It's coming up shortly.

14. How about the mainstream press as an example of a radical attack on the history of same in America...a change for the worse.....one reason why so many accept the insane, radical position is the corrupt media...

Now the press is simply the 'amen corner' for the Far Left.


The first amendment provides special privilege to the fourth estate, based on the premise that it will, fairly, inform the public. It was understood that there could not be an informed public without a free and fair press.

The Far Left has slithered its way into control of the mainstream press....



The JournoList Scandal:
The media bias was clear to all when the JournoList Scandal hit: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties.

“…a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic … plotted to fix the damage.”
Documents show media plotting to kill stories about Rev. Jeremiah Wright


a. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”


b. …an anti-Christian culture among those who participated in the Journolist forum. In the context of coordinating this media attack on Sarah Palin, Daniel Levy apparently experienced no hesitation at all in using the word “Christian” as a characteristic that should be used to “scare people”:
“This seems to me like an occasion when the non-official campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official [Obama] campaign shouldn’t say – very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here – scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia[n] wing-nut a heartbeat away …… bang away at McCain’s age making this unusually significant …. I think people should be replicating some of the not-so-pleasant viral email campaigns that were used against [Obama].”
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/07/22/sarah-palins-scary-christianity/




Did you get that? The media was "the non-official Obama campaign."
Brings to mind 47 articles in the NYTimes about Bush and Abu Ghraib.
The Kremlin couldn't have done a better job!



There it is...the Far Left in action.
Let's see any of the simpletons come up with similar 'campaign' by the Right.

QED.....there is no Far Right.

I didn't use the name to prove the point.

I used ten specific examples.

These:

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinning in his grave





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

".... ("side" irrelevant)..."

I didn't know that you fence sitters proselytize.




"This thread is a perfect illustration of the perception distortions brought on by blind commitment to a hardcore partisan ideology."
Really?

So....why were none of you able to come up with examples to counter these?

Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Pretty clear that the imaginary concept 'Far Right' is simply one more lie by the Left to shield their egregious, radical ideology.

Are you trying to tell me that there is no far right in this country?


Nah.....just wondering why you are trying to ignore the data I've provided...

This:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?




2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?




4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,

LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to
American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."




7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.





8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.

Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....





9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?








10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Clear proof of the radical positions of the Far Left.....
...and also proof that you cannot find comparable positions by what would be a Far Right.


Please....don't stop revealing your irritation.

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.



Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.

To tell you the truth, I haven't actually read anything that you have cut and pasted in this thread.



"To tell you the truth, I haven't actually read anything blah blah blah...."

1. You're lyin'

2. What's wrong with cut and paste? Folks who criticize the method are simply trying to dodge the facts provided therein.

3. I believe you've exhausted every single possible excuse for why the thread destroys your perspective.

Don't worry.....you'll have better days............................not.
 
So let me review...

1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.


Nah....Leftists ARE a mob.

1. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
a. Gustave was the second to bring up mass psychology, the first "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" was published in 1841 and was written by the Scottish journalist (back when they actually did real journalism) Charles Mackay, which exposed mass psychosis for the first time..... accounts of classic scams, grand-scale madness, and deceptions.

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds by Charles MacKay



Hitler, Mussolini...and their pal, Franklin Roosevelt.......Leftists all.



OMG!!!!!

This post is CLASSSIC!!!!!

The concept of irony has spent the entirety of its existence waiting for you to come along and give it meaning.


1. Did you actually post:
"....maybe you should worry more about when your rightwingnut ilk feel so threatened by asians that they put everyone asian into camps...."


2. Can you really be this stupid??????
Your demigod, Franklin Roosevelt, Democrat, Liberal, Progressive....totalitarian....did exactly that!!!!!!!
Gads....you put your foot not just in your mouth.....but up to your duodenum!!!!


3. More:
." Why did the [Roosevelt] administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.

Fair warning to you Leftists.....you may find the following a bit abstruse.....but it is the heart of the matter:


4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Any objection so far?


Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Let's go right for the head of the Far Left....Obama

7. The Obama administration is easily proven to be Far Left: he advanced, to a seat on the Supreme Court, a radical who does not believe in free speech, the first amendment.

"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."



In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."



Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."

If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut?



Any want to deny that free speech is a center of American tradition???
Anyone?



So....as far as the concept of free speech in America, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

"Hitler was a right wing loony, as are Cruz, Santorum, Huckaby, and many of the posters here."

Hitler was Leftist, as much as Stalin.
Both learned at the feet of Karl Marx.


Watch me smash a custard pie in your kisser:


"Hitler and the socialist dream

He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. "I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit".

German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

.....; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism." Hitler and the socialist dream



Pity you have no education, huh?
That's why you fall for every Leftist lie.


1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.

Really?

Well, then....let's smash another custard pie in your kisser:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


Let's take another example,.....


6. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer.'

"WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court on Monday narrowly upheld the centuries-old tradition of offering prayers to open government meetings, even if the prayers are overwhelmingly Christian and citizens are encouraged to participate.
The 5-4 ruling, supported by the court's conservative justices and opposed by its liberals, was based in large part on the history of legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution." Supreme Court upholds prayer at government meetings


See this? "... legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution."
Clearly this is at the center of American tradition.



But... "Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Yesterday, Joe Kennedy, an assistant high-school–football coach in Bremerton, Wash., was suspended. His offense? Kneeling for a short on-field prayer after football games. According to multiple news reports, for the last several years Kennedy has waited until each game ends and the players leave the field before walking to the 50-yard line and offering a quiet prayer for his students. He never asks anyone to join him, nor does he stop anyone who wants to do so."
Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Prayer and religiosity have always been part of this nation...from its inception. Only since totalitarian Franklin Roosevelt, as his first pick, put KKKer Hugo Black on the Supreme Court, has it been considered derogatory.



So....as far as the concept of prayer in the public arena, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


This may be my fav counter-post of the day.

So much to deal with....one hardly knows where to begin....but...it is thoughtful, and shows some background.....

OK.
1. Start with this:
"Although most social conservatives are also moderate Republicans, there are a few that support
1. killing homosexuals
2. reintroduction of slavery
3. teaching anti-scientific ideas
4. returning jews to Israel to fulfill end-time prophecies
5. A biblical based Government/Judicial system."

Every single one of those is absurd, and untrue....or a bastardization of the truth.
I say that based on what would be majority Republican and/or conservative perspective.
Really....Let's see you support those claims with numbers and documentation.

2. By 'teaching anti-scientific ideas' thing is, I suppose based on those who'd teach creationism along with Darwinian Evolution.
Your problem is that you fail to understand that there is equally as much proof for either one.
"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.


3. As far as "A biblical based Government/Judicial system"....there already is one:
"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience.

The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible t that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet


But a good post.

Time for a mid-course review.

1. The is no Far Right in this nation....but there certainly is a Far Left.

The thesis is based on the definitions involved:
To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."

"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)
It's what the radical Obama was getting at when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008. “



2. So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.

a. traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


b. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

c. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.




3. And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

Perhaps one or two more examples to prove how radical the Left is....and how the same cannot be shown to be true of the Right.


8. Let's take racialism.
The infamous, Democrat-inspired, Dred Scott decision made the nation a two-class nation based on skin color.
Clearly radical, when one considers that American values are memorialized in the Declaration of Independence ("All men are created equal").


Yet, under Democrat Lyndon Johnson....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Democrats....the Far Left.


What could have been done rather than awarding special benefits to melanin?
How about what John Kennedy did when the Russians beat us into space.....the government paid colleges and universities to offer science majors free books, and courses (the National Science Foundation grants).
It didn't declare war on Russia.
It didn't demand quotas of 'A's' and 'B's.'
And it certainly didn't endorse racialism, dividing the nation based on race.

9. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton

"Despite his disgrace, Morris continued to quietly advise the president. On Jan. 21, 1998, the day the Monica Lewinsky story broke in the mainstream press, Morris says Clinton called, explained that he had "slipped up" with Lewinsky and asked Morris to take a poll about the potential impact. When Morris reported that Americans would favor his impeachment or resignation if he lied under oath, he says Clinton replied: "Well, we'll just have to win, then." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/clinton/stories/morris020399.htm
And he was the choice of Democrats, Liberals, Progressives....


Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.


If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

See that!

I knew you could do it.....just needed a little coaxing.


"Your entire thread falls apart right at the beginning, because you defined your entire thesis on your opinion of what defines the center."


Well....let's define the center in the same way United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart described obscenity: "I know it when I see it."

And you, and everyone else, knows what traditional America values are.

A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

And, I'll add a few more today.




Can you come up with a similar list that flies in the face of time-honored, traditional American values to support the bogus concept, "Far Right"?


Take your time.


10. A very strong argument can be advanced that "Far Leftism" was introduced, and established, in America, under the 32nd President.


"Nonetheless, the promise of limited federal power eventually succumbed to the pressures of expanding federal power in the 20th century, most notably during the New Deal era and President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "court packing" scheme.[3] The turning point in Supreme Court jurisprudence on the subject is widely seen as United States v. Butler (1936). Although that decision struck down provisions within the Agricultural Adjustment Act as violating the Tenth Amendment, the court found that
...the power of Congress to authorize expenditure of public moneys for public purposes is not limited by the direct grants of legislative power found in the Constitution. —Justice Owen Roberts (1936)[4]


This represented the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power to provide for the general welfare of the United States.[4] They found it did, thus setting the stage for massive increases in federal spending, and consequent power, during the latter half of the 20th century.


A literal interpretation of Federalist No. 45 would indict much of the federal government's activities at that point as unconstitutional.[3]"
Federalist No. 45 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Get that?
"..... the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power..."
That's radical.
Hence....Far Left.


Until Roosevelt cowed the Supreme Court, prior administrations had generally lived within the constraints of the enumerated powers, Article 1, section 8.


Any similar attacks on the Constitution by the Right?

So sorry to interrupt your Far Left talking points...but there is no 'Far Right"
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


I hope you've learned from this lesson.

As the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
So....let's light up your post.

As structured in this thread, it is the comparison of a position with traditional American views that identify Far Left or Far Right:

4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Your post is clearly an attempt to paint an individual as an example of Far Right.
When I exposed your attempt to be 'even handed,' the role of any fence sitter....you simply wandered off.


I believe I've put you in your place by asking what positions of Cruz are Far Right.

11. Even more stringent than 'tradition' is 'protocol,' the official system of rules governing the nation. The Far Left has broken both tradition and protocol.
Has the Right attempted to erase American traditions, values, and history, those that represent the center?

Bet you Leftist indoctrinees never even considered that question.



The only document by which Americans have agreed to be governed is the United States Constitution.,...that's why it is known as 'the law of the land.'
Progressives have used radical beliefs as a lever to uproot the Constitution since the 19th century, but the complete overturning of the Constitution came under our 32nd President.


One can see the effect of Far Left action by considering prohibition, as compared to Roosevelt's invasion of the private home market- he set up Fannie Mae in 1938- and the creation of Social Security.

"Consider Prohibition: Up to 1919, everyone still understood that The Constitution did not give Congress authority to simply “pass a law” banning alcoholic beverages! So the Constitution was amended to prohibit alcoholic beverages, and to authorize Congress to make laws to enforce the prohibition (18th Amdt.).
Congress' Enumerated Powers - Freedom Outpost

Where are the amendments that authorize federal home mortgages, or old age insurance?



"....the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


During the regime of Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR), all three branches of the federal government abandoned the Constitution: FDR proposed “New Deal” programs; Congress passed them. At first, the Supreme Court ruled (generally 5 to 4) that these programs were unconstitutional as outside the legislative powers delegated to Congress. But when FDR threatened to “pack the court” by adding judges who would do his bidding, one judge flipped to the liberal/progressive side, and the Court started approving FDR’s programs (5 to 4)." Ibid.




What could be more radical and obverse to American tradition than abandoning the Constitution?
Far Left= Progressives, Liberals, Democrats.




And still no sign of 'a Far Right.'

Actually, there have been no examples of radical positions that would allow an appellation of "Far Right."

Perhaps you've missed some of these examples....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...


Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


Still waiting.

Speaking of the truth....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?
4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.



Pretend you are actually capable of thought.....and respond to the above.


'Radical' is what makes the Far Left just that.
And there aren't similar positions on the Right...as proven by the deafening silence when the Left is asked to counter the examples given.

Is the attempt to make America fascist, radical?
You betcha'!


12. "Perhaps the most radical aspect of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act, passed in June 1933, which created a massive new bureaucracy called the National Recovery Administration.

Under the NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement, ... Some economists have estimated that the NRA boosted the cost of doing business by an average of 40 percent — not something a depressed economy needed for recovery."
http://fee.org/media/12185/great-myths-print-final.pdf


"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.




Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...ignoring restrictions of the United States Constitution is a radical position.
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


No? None??? Not a single one???
See ....there is no Far Right in this nation.....only a bitter, powerful, totalitarian Far Left.
And you've been seduced into accepting its directions.

Well...then you should have no trouble showing which of the following are
"warped, distorted and wrong."

Go for it, you dope.


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Not only have Liberal simpletons, who have been trained, like seals, to accept each new radical position as though they were long-accepted beliefs, been unable to find examples of the Right comparable to those I've given a examples of Far Left.....
...but those aren't even the most obvious.

Like this:


13. Talk about radical positions: The Far Left's Gender-Agenda.

"If one feels more comfortable and happier living as the opposite sex, well that’s their business and not mine. As a staunch proponent of true freedom, I will never judge a person who took a personal decision to live a better life. Bruce Jenner’s sex change, however, was everything but personal. It was an orchestrated media event, blown-up to proportions so large that it has been turned into a grand ritual, a staged ceremony meant to push an agenda.

.... Jenner’s transformation was not intimate nor personal. It was a grand, ceremonial, ritualistic event that symbolizes a change in society as a whole. An important part of the elite’s agenda is to debase, confuse and mix up the natural, harmonious order of things. It is about steering away from what is real, pure and authentic to move towards to the fake, artificial and the constructed." The Agenda Behind Bruce Jenner's Transformation - The Vigilant Citizen - Understand the Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture




Any such assaults on traditional, biological, existential beliefs by the Right?
No?



That's right....there is no "Far Right"
The Right simply tries to hold back the totalitarian, coercive, corruptions of our traditions:
"Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules" The Battle to Roll Back Washington’s New Transgender Bathroom Rules

Well let's prove you're fibbing:

I provided these examples:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




See any repetition in those examples?

Me neither.


But...I do see you whining because you can't find a way to rebut any of the thread.
Tissue?




BTW.....let's see you predict the next example.
It's coming up shortly.

14. How about the mainstream press as an example of a radical attack on the history of same in America...a change for the worse.....one reason why so many accept the insane, radical position is the corrupt media...

Now the press is simply the 'amen corner' for the Far Left.


The first amendment provides special privilege to the fourth estate, based on the premise that it will, fairly, inform the public. It was understood that there could not be an informed public without a free and fair press.

The Far Left has slithered its way into control of the mainstream press....



The JournoList Scandal:
The media bias was clear to all when the JournoList Scandal hit: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties.

“…a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic … plotted to fix the damage.”
Documents show media plotting to kill stories about Rev. Jeremiah Wright


a. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”


b. …an anti-Christian culture among those who participated in the Journolist forum. In the context of coordinating this media attack on Sarah Palin, Daniel Levy apparently experienced no hesitation at all in using the word “Christian” as a characteristic that should be used to “scare people”:
“This seems to me like an occasion when the non-official campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official [Obama] campaign shouldn’t say – very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here – scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia[n] wing-nut a heartbeat away …… bang away at McCain’s age making this unusually significant …. I think people should be replicating some of the not-so-pleasant viral email campaigns that were used against [Obama].”
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/07/22/sarah-palins-scary-christianity/




Did you get that? The media was "the non-official Obama campaign."
Brings to mind 47 articles in the NYTimes about Bush and Abu Ghraib.
The Kremlin couldn't have done a better job!



There it is...the Far Left in action.
Let's see any of the simpletons come up with similar 'campaign' by the Right.

QED.....there is no Far Right.

I didn't use the name to prove the point.

I used ten specific examples.

These:

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinning in his grave





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

".... ("side" irrelevant)..."

I didn't know that you fence sitters proselytize.




"This thread is a perfect illustration of the perception distortions brought on by blind commitment to a hardcore partisan ideology."
Really?

So....why were none of you able to come up with examples to counter these?

Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Pretty clear that the imaginary concept 'Far Right' is simply one more lie by the Left to shield their egregious, radical ideology.

Are you trying to tell me that there is no far right in this country?


Nah.....just wondering why you are trying to ignore the data I've provided...

This:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?




2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?




4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,

LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to
American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."




7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.





8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.

Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....





9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?








10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Clear proof of the radical positions of the Far Left.....
...and also proof that you cannot find comparable positions by what would be a Far Right.


Please....don't stop revealing your irritation.

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.



Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.

Your list of examples have been destroyed.

1. You claimed support for marriage equality was a radical position. It's a mainstream position supported by most Americans.

2. You claimed affirmative action was a radical position. Americans support affirmative action by a wide majority.

You can keep doing your mental patient act and repeat yourself over and over as if no one has debunked your nonsense,

but the debunking stands.
 
Maybe Kosh the 'far left' this 'far left' that idiot will weigh in. lol

Ask and you shall receive there far left drone!

But as you drones have proven time and time again, anyone not far left is far right in your religious scriptures..

When did I prove that? Cite examples or go back in your hole, Groundhog.

Each and every time you post far left drone!

Another prime example of the far left drone mentality..
 
Aren't Clive Bundy and friends on the far right? Isn't the Sovereign Citizen movement on the far right?

Isn't the Army of God on the far right?

If they aren't, where do they fall on the political spectrum, and why?
 
Aren't Clive Bundy and friends on the far right? Isn't the Sovereign Citizen movement on the far right?

Isn't the Army of God on the far right?

If they aren't, where do they fall on the political spectrum, and why?

You have no clue what the "far right" is, other than them not being far left!

Silly far left drone!
 
Aren't Clive Bundy and friends on the far right? Isn't the Sovereign Citizen movement on the far right?

Isn't the Army of God on the far right?

If they aren't, where do they fall on the political spectrum, and why?

You have no clue what the "far right" is, other than them not being far left!

Silly far left drone!

Name some Americans on the far right.
 
Maybe Kosh the 'far left' this 'far left' that idiot will weigh in. lol

Ask and you shall receive there far left drone!

But as you drones have proven time and time again, anyone not far left is far right in your religious scriptures..

When did I prove that? Cite examples or go back in your hole, Groundhog.

Each and every time you post far left drone!

Another prime example of the far left drone mentality..

Are you on the far right, or are you a moderate fence sitter like PoliticalChic?
 
Aren't Clive Bundy and friends on the far right? Isn't the Sovereign Citizen movement on the far right?

Isn't the Army of God on the far right?

If they aren't, where do they fall on the political spectrum, and why?

You have no clue what the "far right" is, other than them not being far left!

Silly far left drone!

Name some Americans on the far right.

Not up to me to do that as you claim the far right exists, so you name them far left drone!
 
Maybe Kosh the 'far left' this 'far left' that idiot will weigh in. lol

Ask and you shall receive there far left drone!

But as you drones have proven time and time again, anyone not far left is far right in your religious scriptures..

When did I prove that? Cite examples or go back in your hole, Groundhog.

Each and every time you post far left drone!

Another prime example of the far left drone mentality..

Are you on the far right, or are you a moderate fence sitter like PoliticalChic?

See how anything not part of the far left religion is automatically "far right"..

Then this drone only believes that "Conservatives" are only right wing!
 
Since the USA began as a liberal nation and has become even more liberal over the years it is difficult to tell what "far right" in America means. What ever it means, America will probably continue its liberal path and when it gets too liberal we will stop the liberalism for a time, digest then move on again. The evidence, look at our history.
 
Since the USA began as a liberal nation and has become even more liberal over the years it is difficult to tell what "far right" in America means. What ever it means, America will probably continue its liberal path and when it gets too liberal we will stop the liberalism for a time, digest then move on again. The evidence, look at our history.

Wrong word, "progressive" is the term you are looking for..
 
There is no such thing as the 'Far Left'.

Because to the liberals and progressives there are no boundaries or limits to their political delusions. ...... :cool:

Conservative political delusions are limited by the will of the People.

You mean what you morons call mob rule when it's something you oppose. California voted with Prop 8 the will of the people. Those like you opposed that will. So much for your argument.

Well I don't know about that--LOL

Some people age like whine, others like milk.

Sarah Palin summed up Donald Trump supporters better than any of us have been able to do so far, I'll give her that.
 
There is no such thing as the 'Far Left'.

Because to the liberals and progressives there are no boundaries or limits to their political delusions. ...... :cool:

Conservative political delusions are limited by the will of the People.

You mean what you morons call mob rule when it's something you oppose. California voted with Prop 8 the will of the people. Those like you opposed that will. So much for your argument.

Well I don't know about that--LOL

Some people age like whine, others like milk.

Sarah Palin summed up Donald Trump supporters better than any of us have been able to do so far, I'll give her that.

We either operate by the will of the people or we don't. It can't be called the will of the people when NYcarbineer agrees with it and mob rule when he doesn't.
 
So let me review...

1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.


Nah....Leftists ARE a mob.

1. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
a. Gustave was the second to bring up mass psychology, the first "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" was published in 1841 and was written by the Scottish journalist (back when they actually did real journalism) Charles Mackay, which exposed mass psychosis for the first time..... accounts of classic scams, grand-scale madness, and deceptions.

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds by Charles MacKay



Hitler, Mussolini...and their pal, Franklin Roosevelt.......Leftists all.



OMG!!!!!

This post is CLASSSIC!!!!!

The concept of irony has spent the entirety of its existence waiting for you to come along and give it meaning.


1. Did you actually post:
"....maybe you should worry more about when your rightwingnut ilk feel so threatened by asians that they put everyone asian into camps...."


2. Can you really be this stupid??????
Your demigod, Franklin Roosevelt, Democrat, Liberal, Progressive....totalitarian....did exactly that!!!!!!!
Gads....you put your foot not just in your mouth.....but up to your duodenum!!!!


3. More:
." Why did the [Roosevelt] administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.

Fair warning to you Leftists.....you may find the following a bit abstruse.....but it is the heart of the matter:


4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Any objection so far?


Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Let's go right for the head of the Far Left....Obama

7. The Obama administration is easily proven to be Far Left: he advanced, to a seat on the Supreme Court, a radical who does not believe in free speech, the first amendment.

"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."



In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."



Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."

If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut?



Any want to deny that free speech is a center of American tradition???
Anyone?



So....as far as the concept of free speech in America, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Well, then....time to destroy you:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


5. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.




Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.




If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

"Hitler was a right wing loony, as are Cruz, Santorum, Huckaby, and many of the posters here."

Hitler was Leftist, as much as Stalin.
Both learned at the feet of Karl Marx.


Watch me smash a custard pie in your kisser:


"Hitler and the socialist dream

He declared that 'national socialism was based on Marx' Socialists have always disowned him. But a new book insists that he was, at heart, a left-winger

. Hermann Rauschning, for example, a Danzig Nazi who knew Hitler before and after his accession to power in 1933, tells how in private Hitler acknowledged his profound debt to the Marxian tradition. "I have learned a great deal from Marxism" he once remarked, "as I do not hesitate to admit".

German communists he had known before he took power, he told Rauschning, thought politics meant talking and writing. They were mere pamphleteers, whereas "I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun", adding revealingly that "the whole of National Socialism" was based on Marx.

.....; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him.

Yet privately, and perhaps even publicly, he conceded that National Socialism was based on Marx. On reflection, it makes consistent sense. The basis of a dogma is not the dogma, much as the foundation of a building is not the building, and in numerous ways National Socialism was based on Marxism." Hitler and the socialist dream



Pity you have no education, huh?
That's why you fall for every Leftist lie.


1. There is no "far right" in this country.
Yet....the very same folks who poke fun at religious Americans, by comparing God with Santa Claus, go on and on.....

"F**k the far right."
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens

'Or Sanders, who does even better against the far right tard candidates'
BUSTED ! – Republican State of Union Response Carried Amnesty Pledge in Spanish Version…

'I bet this will drive the far right loons insane:'
Nikki Haley rebukes Trump in State of the Union rebuttal

'Uh.. there is very much a "far right" in this country.'
The Delusional Candidate

'... what the far right reactionaries are posting.'
Another reason Americans WANT to see Obama and Obamacare GO!!!

'...for some time now the most and loudest noise has come from the Far Right.'
Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"...how insane the far right is."
Yes, You're A Communist





2. There is no "far right" in this country. So... how to explain the constant reference to this meme by Leftists?

One fact of life is that hearing a phrase often enough, one tends to accept it without spending the effort of examining same. The term "Far Right," used in a cavalier yet effective manner by the Left, is one of those terms.

Yet...upon examination....it proves to be imaginary, very much like the benefits of communism....or ObamaCare.




3. It is a well know axiom that, to see what the Left is doing, note what they are blaming the other side of doing.
One regularly sees the Leftists, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever....railing against the "Far Right," using "Far Right" as a pejorative, an imprecation.
And....BTW.....there certainly is a Far Left.


But I'll prove that "Far Right" doesn't exist.

Really?

Well, then....let's smash another custard pie in your kisser:

There is no "far right" in this country.
To be 'far,' it must be at a distance to the center: American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

There are so very many ways to prove same.....


Let's take another example,.....


6. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer.'

"WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court on Monday narrowly upheld the centuries-old tradition of offering prayers to open government meetings, even if the prayers are overwhelmingly Christian and citizens are encouraged to participate.
The 5-4 ruling, supported by the court's conservative justices and opposed by its liberals, was based in large part on the history of legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution." Supreme Court upholds prayer at government meetings


See this? "... legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution."
Clearly this is at the center of American tradition.



But... "Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Yesterday, Joe Kennedy, an assistant high-school–football coach in Bremerton, Wash., was suspended. His offense? Kneeling for a short on-field prayer after football games. According to multiple news reports, for the last several years Kennedy has waited until each game ends and the players leave the field before walking to the 50-yard line and offering a quiet prayer for his students. He never asks anyone to join him, nor does he stop anyone who wants to do so."
Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Prayer and religiosity have always been part of this nation...from its inception. Only since totalitarian Franklin Roosevelt, as his first pick, put KKKer Hugo Black on the Supreme Court, has it been considered derogatory.



So....as far as the concept of prayer in the public arena, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


This may be my fav counter-post of the day.

So much to deal with....one hardly knows where to begin....but...it is thoughtful, and shows some background.....

OK.
1. Start with this:
"Although most social conservatives are also moderate Republicans, there are a few that support
1. killing homosexuals
2. reintroduction of slavery
3. teaching anti-scientific ideas
4. returning jews to Israel to fulfill end-time prophecies
5. A biblical based Government/Judicial system."

Every single one of those is absurd, and untrue....or a bastardization of the truth.
I say that based on what would be majority Republican and/or conservative perspective.
Really....Let's see you support those claims with numbers and documentation.

2. By 'teaching anti-scientific ideas' thing is, I suppose based on those who'd teach creationism along with Darwinian Evolution.
Your problem is that you fail to understand that there is equally as much proof for either one.
"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.


3. As far as "A biblical based Government/Judicial system"....there already is one:
"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience.

The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible t that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet


But a good post.

Time for a mid-course review.

1. The is no Far Right in this nation....but there certainly is a Far Left.

The thesis is based on the definitions involved:
To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.

The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."

"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)
It's what the radical Obama was getting at when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008. “



2. So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.

a. traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


b. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

c. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.




3. And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

Perhaps one or two more examples to prove how radical the Left is....and how the same cannot be shown to be true of the Right.


8. Let's take racialism.
The infamous, Democrat-inspired, Dred Scott decision made the nation a two-class nation based on skin color.
Clearly radical, when one considers that American values are memorialized in the Declaration of Independence ("All men are created equal").


Yet, under Democrat Lyndon Johnson....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Democrats....the Far Left.


What could have been done rather than awarding special benefits to melanin?
How about what John Kennedy did when the Russians beat us into space.....the government paid colleges and universities to offer science majors free books, and courses (the National Science Foundation grants).
It didn't declare war on Russia.
It didn't demand quotas of 'A's' and 'B's.'
And it certainly didn't endorse racialism, dividing the nation based on race.

9. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton

"Despite his disgrace, Morris continued to quietly advise the president. On Jan. 21, 1998, the day the Monica Lewinsky story broke in the mainstream press, Morris says Clinton called, explained that he had "slipped up" with Lewinsky and asked Morris to take a poll about the potential impact. When Morris reported that Americans would favor his impeachment or resignation if he lied under oath, he says Clinton replied: "Well, we'll just have to win, then." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/clinton/stories/morris020399.htm
And he was the choice of Democrats, Liberals, Progressives....


Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.


If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

See that!

I knew you could do it.....just needed a little coaxing.


"Your entire thread falls apart right at the beginning, because you defined your entire thesis on your opinion of what defines the center."


Well....let's define the center in the same way United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart described obscenity: "I know it when I see it."

And you, and everyone else, knows what traditional America values are.

A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

And, I'll add a few more today.




Can you come up with a similar list that flies in the face of time-honored, traditional American values to support the bogus concept, "Far Right"?


Take your time.


10. A very strong argument can be advanced that "Far Leftism" was introduced, and established, in America, under the 32nd President.


"Nonetheless, the promise of limited federal power eventually succumbed to the pressures of expanding federal power in the 20th century, most notably during the New Deal era and President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "court packing" scheme.[3] The turning point in Supreme Court jurisprudence on the subject is widely seen as United States v. Butler (1936). Although that decision struck down provisions within the Agricultural Adjustment Act as violating the Tenth Amendment, the court found that
...the power of Congress to authorize expenditure of public moneys for public purposes is not limited by the direct grants of legislative power found in the Constitution. —Justice Owen Roberts (1936)[4]


This represented the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power to provide for the general welfare of the United States.[4] They found it did, thus setting the stage for massive increases in federal spending, and consequent power, during the latter half of the 20th century.


A literal interpretation of Federalist No. 45 would indict much of the federal government's activities at that point as unconstitutional.[3]"
Federalist No. 45 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Get that?
"..... the first time the Supreme court had determined whether the Taxing and Spending Clause of the Constitution represented an independent grant of power..."
That's radical.
Hence....Far Left.


Until Roosevelt cowed the Supreme Court, prior administrations had generally lived within the constraints of the enumerated powers, Article 1, section 8.


Any similar attacks on the Constitution by the Right?

So sorry to interrupt your Far Left talking points...but there is no 'Far Right"
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


A review might help you to close in on the concept...
1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..


2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, far left.

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."


I hope you've learned from this lesson.

As the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
So....let's light up your post.

As structured in this thread, it is the comparison of a position with traditional American views that identify Far Left or Far Right:

4. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important when dealing with Leftists, Liberals.....let's define terms.


The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."



"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)


Your post is clearly an attempt to paint an individual as an example of Far Right.
When I exposed your attempt to be 'even handed,' the role of any fence sitter....you simply wandered off.


I believe I've put you in your place by asking what positions of Cruz are Far Right.

11. Even more stringent than 'tradition' is 'protocol,' the official system of rules governing the nation. The Far Left has broken both tradition and protocol.
Has the Right attempted to erase American traditions, values, and history, those that represent the center?

Bet you Leftist indoctrinees never even considered that question.



The only document by which Americans have agreed to be governed is the United States Constitution.,...that's why it is known as 'the law of the land.'
Progressives have used radical beliefs as a lever to uproot the Constitution since the 19th century, but the complete overturning of the Constitution came under our 32nd President.


One can see the effect of Far Left action by considering prohibition, as compared to Roosevelt's invasion of the private home market- he set up Fannie Mae in 1938- and the creation of Social Security.

"Consider Prohibition: Up to 1919, everyone still understood that The Constitution did not give Congress authority to simply “pass a law” banning alcoholic beverages! So the Constitution was amended to prohibit alcoholic beverages, and to authorize Congress to make laws to enforce the prohibition (18th Amdt.).
Congress' Enumerated Powers - Freedom Outpost

Where are the amendments that authorize federal home mortgages, or old age insurance?



"....the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...


During the regime of Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR), all three branches of the federal government abandoned the Constitution: FDR proposed “New Deal” programs; Congress passed them. At first, the Supreme Court ruled (generally 5 to 4) that these programs were unconstitutional as outside the legislative powers delegated to Congress. But when FDR threatened to “pack the court” by adding judges who would do his bidding, one judge flipped to the liberal/progressive side, and the Court started approving FDR’s programs (5 to 4)." Ibid.




What could be more radical and obverse to American tradition than abandoning the Constitution?
Far Left= Progressives, Liberals, Democrats.




And still no sign of 'a Far Right.'

Actually, there have been no examples of radical positions that would allow an appellation of "Far Right."

Perhaps you've missed some of these examples....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...


Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


Still waiting.

Speaking of the truth....

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.

3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?
4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.

And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.



Pretend you are actually capable of thought.....and respond to the above.


'Radical' is what makes the Far Left just that.
And there aren't similar positions on the Right...as proven by the deafening silence when the Left is asked to counter the examples given.

Is the attempt to make America fascist, radical?
You betcha'!


12. "Perhaps the most radical aspect of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act, passed in June 1933, which created a massive new bureaucracy called the National Recovery Administration.

Under the NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement, ... Some economists have estimated that the NRA boosted the cost of doing business by an average of 40 percent — not something a depressed economy needed for recovery."
http://fee.org/media/12185/great-myths-print-final.pdf


"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.




Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...ignoring restrictions of the United States Constitution is a radical position.
Hence, far left.



If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


No? None??? Not a single one???
See ....there is no Far Right in this nation.....only a bitter, powerful, totalitarian Far Left.
And you've been seduced into accepting its directions.

Well...then you should have no trouble showing which of the following are
"warped, distorted and wrong."

Go for it, you dope.


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.

Not only have Liberal simpletons, who have been trained, like seals, to accept each new radical position as though they were long-accepted beliefs, been unable to find examples of the Right comparable to those I've given a examples of Far Left.....
...but those aren't even the most obvious.

Like this:


13. Talk about radical positions: The Far Left's Gender-Agenda.

"If one feels more comfortable and happier living as the opposite sex, well that’s their business and not mine. As a staunch proponent of true freedom, I will never judge a person who took a personal decision to live a better life. Bruce Jenner’s sex change, however, was everything but personal. It was an orchestrated media event, blown-up to proportions so large that it has been turned into a grand ritual, a staged ceremony meant to push an agenda.

.... Jenner’s transformation was not intimate nor personal. It was a grand, ceremonial, ritualistic event that symbolizes a change in society as a whole. An important part of the elite’s agenda is to debase, confuse and mix up the natural, harmonious order of things. It is about steering away from what is real, pure and authentic to move towards to the fake, artificial and the constructed." The Agenda Behind Bruce Jenner's Transformation - The Vigilant Citizen - Understand the Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture




Any such assaults on traditional, biological, existential beliefs by the Right?
No?



That's right....there is no "Far Right"
The Right simply tries to hold back the totalitarian, coercive, corruptions of our traditions:
"Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules" The Battle to Roll Back Washington’s New Transgender Bathroom Rules

Well let's prove you're fibbing:

I provided these examples:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




See any repetition in those examples?

Me neither.


But...I do see you whining because you can't find a way to rebut any of the thread.
Tissue?




BTW.....let's see you predict the next example.
It's coming up shortly.

14. How about the mainstream press as an example of a radical attack on the history of same in America...a change for the worse.....one reason why so many accept the insane, radical position is the corrupt media...

Now the press is simply the 'amen corner' for the Far Left.


The first amendment provides special privilege to the fourth estate, based on the premise that it will, fairly, inform the public. It was understood that there could not be an informed public without a free and fair press.

The Far Left has slithered its way into control of the mainstream press....



The JournoList Scandal:
The media bias was clear to all when the JournoList Scandal hit: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties.

“…a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic … plotted to fix the damage.”
Documents show media plotting to kill stories about Rev. Jeremiah Wright


a. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”


b. …an anti-Christian culture among those who participated in the Journolist forum. In the context of coordinating this media attack on Sarah Palin, Daniel Levy apparently experienced no hesitation at all in using the word “Christian” as a characteristic that should be used to “scare people”:
“This seems to me like an occasion when the non-official campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official [Obama] campaign shouldn’t say – very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here – scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia[n] wing-nut a heartbeat away …… bang away at McCain’s age making this unusually significant …. I think people should be replicating some of the not-so-pleasant viral email campaigns that were used against [Obama].”
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/07/22/sarah-palins-scary-christianity/




Did you get that? The media was "the non-official Obama campaign."
Brings to mind 47 articles in the NYTimes about Bush and Abu Ghraib.
The Kremlin couldn't have done a better job!



There it is...the Far Left in action.
Let's see any of the simpletons come up with similar 'campaign' by the Right.

QED.....there is no Far Right.

I didn't use the name to prove the point.

I used ten specific examples.

These:

So far, I've given these examples of traditionally American positions...the 'center' against which to compare the positions.
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?

4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?



10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinning in his grave





And several times, I've presented this challenge: If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," or never considered its usage, see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Still waiting.

".... ("side" irrelevant)..."

I didn't know that you fence sitters proselytize.




"This thread is a perfect illustration of the perception distortions brought on by blind commitment to a hardcore partisan ideology."
Really?

So....why were none of you able to come up with examples to counter these?

Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?



2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?


4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..

6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."

7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.



8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....



9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?




10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Pretty clear that the imaginary concept 'Far Right' is simply one more lie by the Left to shield their egregious, radical ideology.

Are you trying to tell me that there is no far right in this country?


Nah.....just wondering why you are trying to ignore the data I've provided...

This:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?




2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?




4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,

LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to
American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."




7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.





8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.

Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....





9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?








10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.




Clear proof of the radical positions of the Far Left.....
...and also proof that you cannot find comparable positions by what would be a Far Right.


Please....don't stop revealing your irritation.

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.



Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.

Your list of examples have been destroyed.

1. You claimed support for marriage equality was a radical position. It's a mainstream position supported by most Americans.

2. You claimed affirmative action was a radical position. Americans support affirmative action by a wide majority.

You can keep doing your mental patient act and repeat yourself over and over as if no one has debunked your nonsense,

but the debunking stands.





I've proven that traditional attitudes, values and behaviors in America have not been infracted by the Right.....so there is no 'Far Right.'

And, I've shown that in every one of the examples, the Left has imposed radical changes....hence Far Left.


None of the attempts by you conform to the definition of tradition.

Tradition:
a way of thinking, behaving, or doing something that has been used by the people in a particular group, family, society, etc., for a long time
Definition of TRADITION



Now, shuffle on back to where you came from....the last seat in the dumb row.
 
Since the USA began as a liberal nation and has become even more liberal over the years it is difficult to tell what "far right" in America means. What ever it means, America will probably continue its liberal path and when it gets too liberal we will stop the liberalism for a time, digest then move on again. The evidence, look at our history.



The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.

 

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