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I think she thinks (or she is just having fun) that somehow Mormons believe that Jesus wore garments of a religious nature. She is funning when she says "were they found in Utah."I don't recall posting a link.??? I have know idea what you're talking about.Wayne, the manager is first row, center.You overstate. The OT is full of Jews killing Jews, check Maccabees as one example, for messing around with non Jews and non Jewish beliefs.
Jewish auxiliary troop units were part of the Roman legions surrounding Jerusalem during the Temple revolt and helped pull down the Temple after the Romans won.
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??? I cannot access anything related give me a hint---
does you citation state that the holy "undergarments" of Jesus were found in Utah?
But we have never believed so called undergarments of Jesus were found in Utah.
I am unable to do anything with your link. how about a HINT as to that which it tells us?
The link I did post was between me and starkey about a gym manager.
I'm thoroughly confused about what you're asking me. Which at my age ain't very hard.
I think she thinks (or she is just having fun) that somehow Mormons believe that Jesus wore garments of a religious nature. She is funning when she says "were they found in Utah."I don't recall posting a link.??? I have know idea what you're talking about.Wayne, the manager is first row, center.
The Deseret News - Google News Archive Search
??? I cannot access anything related give me a hint---
does you citation state that the holy "undergarments" of Jesus were found in Utah?
But we have never believed so called undergarments of Jesus were found in Utah.
I am unable to do anything with your link. how about a HINT as to that which it tells us?
The link I did post was between me and starkey about a gym manager.
I'm thoroughly confused about what you're asking me. Which at my age ain't very hard.
That's all that is needed. Jefferson said he was a true disciple of Jesus. Nothing more said. He believed in deity. He would have thought atheism a preposterous notion of specious thinking by weak minded men.Jefferson to Thompson in 1816. Check the underlining of words.
LMAO!!!
Is that it? Is that all you've got?
Jefferson speaks for Jefferson, you have trouble speaking for yourself, so I am not concerned about what you maintain.That's all that is needed. Jefferson said he was a true disciple of Jesus. Nothing more said. He believed in deity. He would have thought atheism a preposterous notion of specious thinking by weak minded men.Jefferson to Thompson in 1816. Check the underlining of words.
LMAO!!!
Is that it? Is that all you've got?
Unless you can provide verbiage in a quote I'll maintain that you're as full of shit as a Christmas Goose.
Matthew 10: 34-40.)“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace but a sword [an Aramaic idiom meaning division]. For I have come to set a man against his father and a daughter against her mother and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take up his cross and follow me [worship death as he did] is not worthy of me. He who is concerned about his life shall lose it; and he who loses his life for my sake shall find it. Whoever receives you, receives me; and whoever receives me receives him who sent me."
This will be right on topic while addressing some off topic comments made.
Many already know Hell- Gehinnom in Judaism is describing what life in the wrong path away from that essence we call G-d would be like. That's why they paint a picture of the burning trash dump outside the walls of Jerusalem as it's similarity. A life liken to war torn areas with burning tires, trash scattered, people and buildings tattered and all residing outside the kingdom.
But what many don't know is the term for being cast out the kingdom was called being dead or in the pits (of society). Sort of like in the TV show Big Bang Theory when Howard calls his friend "dead to him" for snagging what he considered was his new girlfiend.
He outcasts the 2 of them and refuses to aclnowledge them. But what happens when he accepts them back? He says they came back to him, they are alive, it's a miracle.
In Biblical times it was called resurrection and coming back from the dead to merely be welcomed back into society or inside the kingdoms walls through repentance or someone arguing your case. You were as Howard put it "no longer dead"- to them.
It's possible that the rich young man Lazarus was cast out -"dead to them" and brought back when Theudas(made part of Jesus image) pled for his lovers return from exhile.
IT'S an easy story to confuse or manipulate.
I say they used it for the later if it was not fully fabricated in the first place.
hashev------it is a matter of language and usage, -----as you know. I grew up knowing ONLY ENGLISH. No education in any religion-----except visits to the sunday school in the church basement with a friend. ------but regarding the bible
(OT and NT) even I had a slight edge over my sunday school
playmates based on language usage by my American born
grandmother who was also fluent and literate in Yiddish. The
manner in which American Christians misconstrue the words
of both books-----still fascinates me. Another issue is "traditional interpretation" People who grow up with
the yearly Christmas play re-enactment of the baby born in
the manger-----(which----in fact, I did---but it had no more reality to me than did FLASH GORDON and the Easter bunny) will hold onto their early impressions for life
I know that Joseph and Paul were not the same man, because no logical argument can be made that the writer of Josephus was the writer of Paul's epistles.
You would have to make a textualist argument, so go ahead. That would be interesting. You have a prompt that catches people's attention.
I know that Joseph and Paul were not the same man, because no logical argument can be made that the writer of Josephus was the writer of Paul's epistles.
Why not, a lot of it sounds the same. I am not saying their are one of the same, I'm sayin Josephus probably wrote Paul's letters, incorporating himself in parts. They are too many similarities to be a coincidence.
This will be right on topic while addressing some off topic comments made.
Many already know Hell- Gehinnom in Judaism is describing what life in the wrong path away from that essence we call G-d would be like. That's why they paint a picture of the burning trash dump outside the walls of Jerusalem as it's similarity. A life liken to war torn areas with burning tires, trash scattered, people and buildings tattered and all residing outside the kingdom.
But what many don't know is the term for being cast out the kingdom was called being dead or in the pits (of society). Sort of like in the TV show Big Bang Theory when Howard calls his friend "dead to him" for snagging what he considered was his new girlfiend.
He outcasts the 2 of them and refuses to aclnowledge them. But what happens when he accepts them back? He says they came back to him, they are alive, it's a miracle.
In Biblical times it was called resurrection and coming back from the dead to merely be welcomed back into society or inside the kingdoms walls through repentance or someone arguing your case. You were as Howard put it "no longer dead"- to them.
It's possible that the rich young man Lazarus was cast out -"dead to them" and brought back when Theudas(made part of Jesus image) pled for his lovers return from exhile.
IT'S an easy story to confuse or manipulate.
I say they used it for the later if it was not fully fabricated in the first place.
hashev------it is a matter of language and usage, -----as you know. I grew up knowing ONLY ENGLISH. No education in any religion-----except visits to the sunday school in the church basement with a friend. ------but regarding the bible
(OT and NT) even I had a slight edge over my sunday school
playmates based on language usage by my American born
grandmother who was also fluent and literate in Yiddish. The
manner in which American Christians misconstrue the words
of both books-----still fascinates me. Another issue is "traditional interpretation" People who grow up with
the yearly Christmas play re-enactment of the baby born in
the manger-----(which----in fact, I did---but it had no more reality to me than did FLASH GORDON and the Easter bunny) will hold onto their early impressions for life
I think the funniest manger scene I ever saw was an Archangel Michael statue above the manger with sword drawn on the Baby Jesus. Purposefully done symbolism, or accidentally revealled symbolism, either way It had me grinning ear to ear.
I know that Joseph and Paul were not the same man, because no logical argument can be made that the writer of Josephus was the writer of Paul's epistles.
Why not, a lot of it sounds the same. I am not saying their are one of the same, I'm sayin Josephus probably wrote Paul's letters, incorporating himself in parts. They are too many similarities to be a coincidence.
Josephus incorporated himself in the letter of Paul?
I never read anything about Josephus in the NT---can
you cite the basis for your theory?
I know that Joseph and Paul were not the same man, because no logical argument can be made that the writer of Josephus was the writer of Paul's epistles.
Why not, a lot of it sounds the same. I am not saying their are one of the same, I'm sayin Josephus probably wrote Paul's letters, incorporating himself in parts. They are too many similarities to be a coincidence.
Josephus incorporated himself in the letter of Paul?
I never read anything about Josephus in the NT---can
you cite the basis for your theory?
I already have in earlier posts, Paul wrote lots of letters, and make no mistake , a slave in those days would not get those letters delivered. What we have is letters he wrote to different places, and his excusions in Acts. We don't know if those letters ever left Rome.
