This country ranks No. 1 for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (its not America)

[TheDude]

What else does most western europe countries have over America
1. Low prison population. In America we have the biggest on earth as everything is illegal!
2. Getting sick can fucking destroy your life here in America...That doesn't happen in western europe.

Oh'yesss, loserterianism is so fucking free and wonderful. About as free as living in somalia and wondering if you're going to get blown away in the middle of the night.

My neighbor has cancer and the work ethic of a cow. He's unemployed and gets free medical care, in the USA.

 

[SmokeALib]

This country ranks No. 1 for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (its not America)
This country ranks No. 1 for ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ (it’s not America)

Norway ranked the No. 1 place for happiness and personal freedom, according to an analysis of three separate studies on life expectancy by the World Bank, on civil liberties from Freedom House, a New York-based nonprofit that conducts research on advocacy and democracy, on happiness from the Sustainable Development Solutions Network (SDSN), a group linked to the United Nations, and on rule of law from the World Justice Project, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit.

...

The U.S. has seen its happiness slide happiness over the last decade. In 2007, it ranked No. 3 among the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development countries. Last year, it was 19th, down from 13th the year before. “The predominant political discourse in the United States is aimed at raising economic growth, with the goal of restoring the American Dream and the happiness that is supposed to accompany it. But the data show conclusively that this is the wrong approach,” the report concluded.

For those interviewed in the report, perception is reality. At least, as far as their happiness is concerned and, experts say, the divisive political climate likely hasn’t helped. “The United States can and should raise happiness by addressing America’s multi-faceted social crisis — rising inequality, corruption, isolation, and distrust — rather than focusing exclusively or even mainly on economic growth, especially since the concrete proposals along these lines would exacerbate rather than ameliorate the deepening social crisis,” the report said.

...

The U.S showed less social support, less sense of personal freedom, lower donations, and more perceived corruption of government and business, it said. “America’s crisis is, in short, a social crisis, not an economic crisis… Almost all of the policy discourse in Washington, D.C. centers on naïve attempts to raise the economic growth rate, as if a higher growth rate would somehow heal the deepening divisions and angst in American society. This kind of growth-only agenda is doubly wrong-headed.”

Social democracies lead the world!!! High political freedom, strong safetynet, educated population and high GDP per capita!

WTF does America have??? Low political freedom, weak safetynet that a certain party wants to do away with all together and to hell with the suffering poor, one of the lowest in education but the religious like it that way and a dropping GDP per capita.

America is becoming a second world country.

And the social welfare state of Norway...cannot be sustained....

Government Health Care Horror Stories from Norway

I'll admit this: if, like me, you're a self-employed person with a marginal income, the Norwegian system is, in many ways, a boon – as long as you're careful not to get anything much more serious than a cold or flu.

Doctors' visits are cheap; hospitalization is free. But you get what you pay for. There are excellent doctors in Norway – but there are also mediocrities and outright incompetents who in the U.S. would have been stripped of their licenses long ago. The fact is that while the ubiquity of frivolous malpractice lawsuits in the U.S. has been a disgrace, the inability of Norwegians to sue doctors or hospitals even in the most egregious of circumstances is even more of a disgrace.

Physicians who in the U.S. would be dragged into court are, under the Norwegian system, reported to a local board consisting of their own colleagues – who are also, not infrequently, their longtime friends.

(The government health system's own website puts it this way: if you suspect malpractice, you have the right to “ask the Norwegian Board of Health Supervision in your county to evaluate” your claims.)

As a result, doctors who should be forcibly retired, if not incarcerated, end up with a slap on the wrist. When patients are awarded financial damages, the sums – paid by the state, not the doctor – are insultingly small.
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Take the case of Peter Franks, whose doctor sent him home twice despite a tennis-ball-sized lump in his chest that was oozing blood and pus – and that turned out to be a cancer that was diagnosed too late to save his life. Apropos of Franks's case, a jurist who specializes in patients' rights lamented that the Norwegian health-care system responds to sky-high malpractice figures “with a shrug,” and the dying Franks himself pronounced last year that “the responsibility for malpractice has been pulverized in Norway,” saying that “if I could have sued the doctor, I would have. Other doctors would have read about the lawsuit in the newspaper. Then they would have taken greater care to avoid making such a mistake themselves. But doctors in Norway don't have to take responsibility for their mistakes. The state does it.” After a three-year legal struggle, Franks was awarded 2.7 million kroner by the Norwegian government – about half a million dollars.

Another aspect of Norway's guild-like health-care system is that although the country suffers from a severe deficit of doctors, nurses, and midwives, the medical establishment makes it next to impossible for highly qualified foreign members of these professions to get certified to practice in Norway. The daughter of a friend of mine got a nursing degree at the University of North Dakota in 2009 but, as reported last Friday by NRK, is working in Seattle because the Norwegian authorities in charge of these matters – who have refused to be interviewed on this subject by NRK – have stubbornly denied her a license. Why? My guess is that the answer has a lot to do with three things: competence, competition, and control. If there were a surplus of doctors and nurses instead of a shortage, the good ones would drive out the bad. Plainly, such a situation must be avoided at all costs – including the cost of human lives.

Then there's the waiting lists. At the beginning of 2012, over 281,000 patients in Norway, out of a population of five million, were awaiting treatment for some medical problem or other. Bureaucratic absurdities run rampant, as exemplified by thisAftenposten story from earlier this year:

You should concentrate on Americas Healthcare System literally one of the worst and unfair in the world.

You have millions of people with no Health Insurance and you have elderly Americans who have to choose between buying food or paying for their over priced medication which is artificially inflated by your corrupt Pharmaceutical Companies who pay your corrupt politicians via their Lobbying Groups not to do anything to lower the prices of medications so they can be more affordable to the most vulnerable of American citizens.

Your Healthcare System was ranked No. 37 in the world by the WHO, now that's something to be proud of isn't it, No. 37 and Norway who you trashing and are TOTALLY IGNORANT about probably never having ventured further than your basement is ranked No. 11.

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^^^^ Lol Costa Rica, Dominica, Chile and Morocco's Healthcare Systems are ranked higher than America's by the WHO.

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems

Maybe you should move.

I am not American and do not live in America, but as a European I have the right to educate Americans when they post horsecrap about things on my Continent and about nations on my Continent that they do know have any idea what they are posting or babbling. You have 2aGuy posting gibberish from an American publication I have never heard of that is publishing gibberish about the Norwegian Healthcare System....and I repeat Norway are ranked No. 11 on the WHO list you American's are ranked No. 37, so concentrate on fixing your CRAP Healthcare System and stop posting CRAP about a nation who's Health System is ranked 26 places higher than yours.

In general I like 2aGuy and we often agree about many things, but on this issue he is 100% incorrect and I offer constructive criticism in the hope he can learn something from what I posted.

"Maybe you should move."

Maybe you should just STFU instead.

Why should I stfu? Because I don't want, or need, government health care?
Kiss my ass.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Enforce our anti-trust laws...We want competition right?
Rebuild our unions around the interest of the workers? Demand better pay and a larger portion of that pie.
Raise tariffs on all outsourcers to favor our businesses here at home.
Educate our children!!! Look at one of the top 5 educational systems on earth and adopt it.
Get them interested in science, tech and doing great things.

This is the road map to success. Rewarding the traitors that have stabbed us in the back is the last thing we should do.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

This country ranks No. 1 for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (its not America)
This country ranks No. 1 for ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ (it’s not America)
Social democracies lead the world!!! High political freedom, strong safetynet, educated population and high GDP per capita!

WTF does America have??? Low political freedom, weak safetynet that a certain party wants to do away with all together and to hell with the suffering poor, one of the lowest in education but the religious like it that way and a dropping GDP per capita.

America is becoming a second world country.

And the social welfare state of Norway...cannot be sustained....

Government Health Care Horror Stories from Norway

I'll admit this: if, like me, you're a self-employed person with a marginal income, the Norwegian system is, in many ways, a boon – as long as you're careful not to get anything much more serious than a cold or flu.

Doctors' visits are cheap; hospitalization is free. But you get what you pay for. There are excellent doctors in Norway – but there are also mediocrities and outright incompetents who in the U.S. would have been stripped of their licenses long ago. The fact is that while the ubiquity of frivolous malpractice lawsuits in the U.S. has been a disgrace, the inability of Norwegians to sue doctors or hospitals even in the most egregious of circumstances is even more of a disgrace.

Physicians who in the U.S. would be dragged into court are, under the Norwegian system, reported to a local board consisting of their own colleagues – who are also, not infrequently, their longtime friends.

(The government health system's own website puts it this way: if you suspect malpractice, you have the right to “ask the Norwegian Board of Health Supervision in your county to evaluate” your claims.)

As a result, doctors who should be forcibly retired, if not incarcerated, end up with a slap on the wrist. When patients are awarded financial damages, the sums – paid by the state, not the doctor – are insultingly small.
------------

Take the case of Peter Franks, whose doctor sent him home twice despite a tennis-ball-sized lump in his chest that was oozing blood and pus – and that turned out to be a cancer that was diagnosed too late to save his life. Apropos of Franks's case, a jurist who specializes in patients' rights lamented that the Norwegian health-care system responds to sky-high malpractice figures “with a shrug,” and the dying Franks himself pronounced last year that “the responsibility for malpractice has been pulverized in Norway,” saying that “if I could have sued the doctor, I would have. Other doctors would have read about the lawsuit in the newspaper. Then they would have taken greater care to avoid making such a mistake themselves. But doctors in Norway don't have to take responsibility for their mistakes. The state does it.” After a three-year legal struggle, Franks was awarded 2.7 million kroner by the Norwegian government – about half a million dollars.

Another aspect of Norway's guild-like health-care system is that although the country suffers from a severe deficit of doctors, nurses, and midwives, the medical establishment makes it next to impossible for highly qualified foreign members of these professions to get certified to practice in Norway. The daughter of a friend of mine got a nursing degree at the University of North Dakota in 2009 but, as reported last Friday by NRK, is working in Seattle because the Norwegian authorities in charge of these matters – who have refused to be interviewed on this subject by NRK – have stubbornly denied her a license. Why? My guess is that the answer has a lot to do with three things: competence, competition, and control. If there were a surplus of doctors and nurses instead of a shortage, the good ones would drive out the bad. Plainly, such a situation must be avoided at all costs – including the cost of human lives.

Then there's the waiting lists. At the beginning of 2012, over 281,000 patients in Norway, out of a population of five million, were awaiting treatment for some medical problem or other. Bureaucratic absurdities run rampant, as exemplified by thisAftenposten story from earlier this year:

You should concentrate on Americas Healthcare System literally one of the worst and unfair in the world.

You have millions of people with no Health Insurance and you have elderly Americans who have to choose between buying food or paying for their over priced medication which is artificially inflated by your corrupt Pharmaceutical Companies who pay your corrupt politicians via their Lobbying Groups not to do anything to lower the prices of medications so they can be more affordable to the most vulnerable of American citizens.

Your Healthcare System was ranked No. 37 in the world by the WHO, now that's something to be proud of isn't it, No. 37 and Norway who you trashing and are TOTALLY IGNORANT about probably never having ventured further than your basement is ranked No. 11.

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^^^^ Lol Costa Rica, Dominica, Chile and Morocco's Healthcare Systems are ranked higher than America's by the WHO.

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems

Maybe you should move.

I am not American and do not live in America, but as a European I have the right to educate Americans when they post horsecrap about things on my Continent and about nations on my Continent that they do know have any idea what they are posting or babbling. You have 2aGuy posting gibberish from an American publication I have never heard of that is publishing gibberish about the Norwegian Healthcare System....and I repeat Norway are ranked No. 11 on the WHO list you American's are ranked No. 37, so concentrate on fixing your CRAP Healthcare System and stop posting CRAP about a nation who's Health System is ranked 26 places higher than yours.

In general I like 2aGuy and we often agree about many things, but on this issue he is 100% incorrect and I offer constructive criticism in the hope he can learn something from what I posted.

"Maybe you should move."

Maybe you should just STFU instead.

Why should I stfu? Because I don't want, or need, government health care?
Kiss my ass.

No darling I told you that because you said maybe I should move, as a European I have a right to correct inaccurate American ramblings about any nation on this Continent.

 

[cnm]

Face it, America is the freest nation on earth.

While having the highest prison population. Dayamn, gotta get me some of that freedom.

 

[sartre play]

What's the deal with telling people who don't agree with you to leave" what does that add to any conversation? if what your looking for is every one to look, act, think the same, go to a list of approved churches?
America is big beautiful & full of every kind of life style & attraction you could dream of. that dose not mean we can not discuss the need to rethink & look at things that improve life for most, as opposed to things that only support a smaller segment of the population.

 

[John Shaw]

Face it, America is the freest nation on earth.

While having the highest prison population. Dayamn, gotta get me some of that freedom.

 

[TemplarKormac]

This is the problem with this board; everyone assumes you have some kind of angle. I don't. I loathe ideology and ascribe to none, except for an interest in the truth. So please, stop trying to put me in a box.

Sincerest apologies, but I've been commenting in political boards for the better part of a decade. Every person ascribes to something, everyone has an angle of approach. If you didn't have one you wouldn't be here discussing your observations regarding wealth inequality. That is within itself an "angle" so to speak. All I see it as is someone demeaning the country he lives in only judging purely off the negative traits it possesses.

It's a lot HARDER to move up if you're starting out poor.

Everyone starts out poor. The perk of individual liberty speaks for itself, you have the liberty to seek a means of higher income. Sink, or swim.

Think of it, being assigned to a job and a caste that your government thinks you are best suited for. That's not freedom at all.

 

[SmokeALib]

And the social welfare state of Norway...cannot be sustained....

Government Health Care Horror Stories from Norway

I'll admit this: if, like me, you're a self-employed person with a marginal income, the Norwegian system is, in many ways, a boon – as long as you're careful not to get anything much more serious than a cold or flu.

Doctors' visits are cheap; hospitalization is free. But you get what you pay for. There are excellent doctors in Norway – but there are also mediocrities and outright incompetents who in the U.S. would have been stripped of their licenses long ago. The fact is that while the ubiquity of frivolous malpractice lawsuits in the U.S. has been a disgrace, the inability of Norwegians to sue doctors or hospitals even in the most egregious of circumstances is even more of a disgrace.

Physicians who in the U.S. would be dragged into court are, under the Norwegian system, reported to a local board consisting of their own colleagues – who are also, not infrequently, their longtime friends.

(The government health system's own website puts it this way: if you suspect malpractice, you have the right to “ask the Norwegian Board of Health Supervision in your county to evaluate” your claims.)

As a result, doctors who should be forcibly retired, if not incarcerated, end up with a slap on the wrist. When patients are awarded financial damages, the sums – paid by the state, not the doctor – are insultingly small.
------------

Take the case of Peter Franks, whose doctor sent him home twice despite a tennis-ball-sized lump in his chest that was oozing blood and pus – and that turned out to be a cancer that was diagnosed too late to save his life. Apropos of Franks's case, a jurist who specializes in patients' rights lamented that the Norwegian health-care system responds to sky-high malpractice figures “with a shrug,” and the dying Franks himself pronounced last year that “the responsibility for malpractice has been pulverized in Norway,” saying that “if I could have sued the doctor, I would have. Other doctors would have read about the lawsuit in the newspaper. Then they would have taken greater care to avoid making such a mistake themselves. But doctors in Norway don't have to take responsibility for their mistakes. The state does it.” After a three-year legal struggle, Franks was awarded 2.7 million kroner by the Norwegian government – about half a million dollars.

Another aspect of Norway's guild-like health-care system is that although the country suffers from a severe deficit of doctors, nurses, and midwives, the medical establishment makes it next to impossible for highly qualified foreign members of these professions to get certified to practice in Norway. The daughter of a friend of mine got a nursing degree at the University of North Dakota in 2009 but, as reported last Friday by NRK, is working in Seattle because the Norwegian authorities in charge of these matters – who have refused to be interviewed on this subject by NRK – have stubbornly denied her a license. Why? My guess is that the answer has a lot to do with three things: competence, competition, and control. If there were a surplus of doctors and nurses instead of a shortage, the good ones would drive out the bad. Plainly, such a situation must be avoided at all costs – including the cost of human lives.

Then there's the waiting lists. At the beginning of 2012, over 281,000 patients in Norway, out of a population of five million, were awaiting treatment for some medical problem or other. Bureaucratic absurdities run rampant, as exemplified by thisAftenposten story from earlier this year:

You should concentrate on Americas Healthcare System literally one of the worst and unfair in the world.

You have millions of people with no Health Insurance and you have elderly Americans who have to choose between buying food or paying for their over priced medication which is artificially inflated by your corrupt Pharmaceutical Companies who pay your corrupt politicians via their Lobbying Groups not to do anything to lower the prices of medications so they can be more affordable to the most vulnerable of American citizens.

Your Healthcare System was ranked No. 37 in the world by the WHO, now that's something to be proud of isn't it, No. 37 and Norway who you trashing and are TOTALLY IGNORANT about probably never having ventured further than your basement is ranked No. 11.

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^^^^ Lol Costa Rica, Dominica, Chile and Morocco's Healthcare Systems are ranked higher than America's by the WHO.

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems

Maybe you should move.

I am not American and do not live in America, but as a European I have the right to educate Americans when they post horsecrap about things on my Continent and about nations on my Continent that they do know have any idea what they are posting or babbling. You have 2aGuy posting gibberish from an American publication I have never heard of that is publishing gibberish about the Norwegian Healthcare System....and I repeat Norway are ranked No. 11 on the WHO list you American's are ranked No. 37, so concentrate on fixing your CRAP Healthcare System and stop posting CRAP about a nation who's Health System is ranked 26 places higher than yours.

In general I like 2aGuy and we often agree about many things, but on this issue he is 100% incorrect and I offer constructive criticism in the hope he can learn something from what I posted.

"Maybe you should move."

Maybe you should just STFU instead.

Why should I stfu? Because I don't want, or need, government health care?
Kiss my ass.

No darling I told you that because you said maybe I should move, as a European I have a right to correct inaccurate American ramblings about any nation on this Continent.

1st of all, I'm not your darling.
2nd off all, as an American, I have the right to tell you to not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

[John Shaw]

This is the problem with this board; everyone assumes you have some kind of angle. I don't. I loathe ideology and ascribe to none, except for an interest in the truth. So please, stop trying to put me in a box.

Sincerest apologies, but I've been commenting in political boards for the better part of a decade. Every person ascribes to something, everyone has an angle of approach. If you didn't have one you wouldn't be here discussing your observations regarding wealth inequality. That is within itself an "angle" so to speak. All I see it as is someone demeaning the country he lives in only judging purely off the negative traits it possesses.

It's a lot HARDER to move up if you're starting out poor.

Everyone starts out poor. The perk of individual liberty speaks for itself, you have the liberty to seek a means of higher income. Sink, or swim.

Think of it, being assigned to a job and a caste that your government thinks you are best suited for. That's not freedom at all.

No, everyone does not start out poor. What are you talking about?

 

[TemplarKormac]

No, everyone does not start out poor. What are you talking about?

Think about it. A child can be born into wealth, but until he or she starts making their own money, they are by definition "poor."

 

[cnm]

Everyone starts out poor.

Absolutely. I mean look at Trump, a pauper from the word go.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Everyone starts out poor.

Absolutely. I mean look at Trump, a pauper from the word go.

No, everyone does not start out poor. What are you talking about?

Think about it. A child can be born into wealth, but until he or she starts making their own money, they are by definition "poor."

 

[cnm]

A child can be born into wealth, but until he or she starts making their own money, they are by definition "poor."

Ffs.

As though trust funds never existed.

Ffs.

 

[MarcATL]

A nice completely white country ... wowwie.

Well, they didn't get themselves caught up in the practice of importing Africans for slaves to enrich their country like some others did.

So there's that.

 

[John Shaw]

No, everyone does not start out poor. What are you talking about?

Think about it. A child can be born into wealth, but until he or she starts making their own money, they are by definition "poor."

That is one of the silliest things I've ever seen. If your daddy/mommy is paying for all your shit, and they send you to Harvard and buy you a sports car, and hook you up with all the most influential people in your industry ... you're not poor.

As opposed to the kid born to a crack whore mother and no father in a shitty, crime-ridden neighborhood. Best case scenario? He works his ass off in school, doesn't get shot, and gets a scholarship before settling into a middle class job and lifestyle. He's never going to get to hobnob with the folks at the top of the ladder like Richie Rich does. More likely, he'll drop out of school, or go to community college. Because being poor is fucking hard, and soul-crushing, and most people aren't strong enough to handle it perfectly.

I don't know you, so I could be wrong, but from the things you write it seems to me you've probably never gone hungry.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

You should concentrate on Americas Healthcare System literally one of the worst and unfair in the world.

You have millions of people with no Health Insurance and you have elderly Americans who have to choose between buying food or paying for their over priced medication which is artificially inflated by your corrupt Pharmaceutical Companies who pay your corrupt politicians via their Lobbying Groups not to do anything to lower the prices of medications so they can be more affordable to the most vulnerable of American citizens.

Your Healthcare System was ranked No. 37 in the world by the WHO, now that's something to be proud of isn't it, No. 37 and Norway who you trashing and are TOTALLY IGNORANT about probably never having ventured further than your basement is ranked No. 11.

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^^^^ Lol Costa Rica, Dominica, Chile and Morocco's Healthcare Systems are ranked higher than America's by the WHO.

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems

Maybe you should move.

I am not American and do not live in America, but as a European I have the right to educate Americans when they post horsecrap about things on my Continent and about nations on my Continent that they do know have any idea what they are posting or babbling. You have 2aGuy posting gibberish from an American publication I have never heard of that is publishing gibberish about the Norwegian Healthcare System....and I repeat Norway are ranked No. 11 on the WHO list you American's are ranked No. 37, so concentrate on fixing your CRAP Healthcare System and stop posting CRAP about a nation who's Health System is ranked 26 places higher than yours.

In general I like 2aGuy and we often agree about many things, but on this issue he is 100% incorrect and I offer constructive criticism in the hope he can learn something from what I posted.


Maybe you should just STFU instead.

Why should I stfu? Because I don't want, or need, government health care?
Kiss my ass.

No darling I told you that because you said maybe I should move, as a European I have a right to correct inaccurate American ramblings about any nation on this Continent.

1st of all, I'm not your darling.
2nd off all, as an American, I have the right to tell you to not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

"2nd off all, as an American, I have the right to tell you to not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

What part of I am not American that I am European and live on the European Continent do you NOT understand?

Hello? Anyone home? Thought not.

Stupid ignorant American is telling a European who live here on the European Continent to:

"Maybe you should move."

"as an American, I have the right to tell you to not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

^^^^ Idiot is telling me to get out of my OWN Continent

Lol no wonder so many people think Americans are ignorant and stupid, you are a prime example of both, thank goodness that the Americans I know in RL are all educated and coherent and not Lower Class ignorant hogs like you.

 

[francoHFW]

This country ranks No. 1 for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (its not America)
This country ranks No. 1 for ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ (it’s not America)

Norway ranked the No. 1 place for happiness and personal freedom, according to an analysis of three separate studies on life expectancy by the World Bank, on civil liberties from Freedom House, a New York-based nonprofit that conducts research on advocacy and democracy, on happiness from the Sustainable Development Solutions Network (SDSN), a group linked to the United Nations, and on rule of law from the World Justice Project, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit.

...

The U.S. has seen its happiness slide happiness over the last decade. In 2007, it ranked No. 3 among the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development countries. Last year, it was 19th, down from 13th the year before. “The predominant political discourse in the United States is aimed at raising economic growth, with the goal of restoring the American Dream and the happiness that is supposed to accompany it. But the data show conclusively that this is the wrong approach,” the report concluded.

For those interviewed in the report, perception is reality. At least, as far as their happiness is concerned and, experts say, the divisive political climate likely hasn’t helped. “The United States can and should raise happiness by addressing America’s multi-faceted social crisis — rising inequality, corruption, isolation, and distrust — rather than focusing exclusively or even mainly on economic growth, especially since the concrete proposals along these lines would exacerbate rather than ameliorate the deepening social crisis,” the report said.

...

The U.S showed less social support, less sense of personal freedom, lower donations, and more perceived corruption of government and business, it said. “America’s crisis is, in short, a social crisis, not an economic crisis… Almost all of the policy discourse in Washington, D.C. centers on naïve attempts to raise the economic growth rate, as if a higher growth rate would somehow heal the deepening divisions and angst in American society. This kind of growth-only agenda is doubly wrong-headed.”

Social democracies lead the world!!! High political freedom, strong safetynet, educated population and high GDP per capita!

WTF does America have??? Low political freedom, weak safetynet that a certain party wants to do away with all together and to hell with the suffering poor, one of the lowest in education but the religious like it that way and a dropping GDP per capita.

America is becoming a second world country.

Comparing Norway to America is idiotic considering America is made up of many races and creeds, Norway, not so much.

That should have no effect, unless we're racists... Actually that does make it difficult, the racism that is...

 

[francoHFW]

Maybe you should move.

I am not American and do not live in America, but as a European I have the right to educate Americans when they post horsecrap about things on my Continent and about nations on my Continent that they do know have any idea what they are posting or babbling. You have 2aGuy posting gibberish from an American publication I have never heard of that is publishing gibberish about the Norwegian Healthcare System....and I repeat Norway are ranked No. 11 on the WHO list you American's are ranked No. 37, so concentrate on fixing your CRAP Healthcare System and stop posting CRAP about a nation who's Health System is ranked 26 places higher than yours.

In general I like 2aGuy and we often agree about many things, but on this issue he is 100% incorrect and I offer constructive criticism in the hope he can learn something from what I posted.


Maybe you should just STFU instead.

Why should I stfu? Because I don't want, or need, government health care?
Kiss my ass.

No darling I told you that because you said maybe I should move, as a European I have a right to correct inaccurate American ramblings about any nation on this Continent.

1st of all, I'm not your darling.
2nd off all, as an American, I have the right to tell you to not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

"2nd off all, as an American, I have the right to tell you to not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

What part of I am not American that I am European and live on the European Continent do you NOT understand?

Hello? Anyone home? Thought not.

Stupid ignorant American is telling a European who live here on the European Continent to:

"Maybe you should move."

"as an American, I have the right to tell you to not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

^^^^ Idiot is telling me to get out of my OWN Continent

Lol no wonder so many people think Americans are ignorant and stupid, you are a prime example of both, thank goodness that the Americans I know in RL are all educated and coherent and not Lower Class ignorant hogs like you.

That would be the Ugly American GOP who have gotten even worse because they're no longer the silent majority but now the loudmouth brainwashed majority...

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

No, everyone does not start out poor. What are you talking about?

Think about it. A child can be born into wealth, but until he or she starts making their own money, they are by definition "poor."

That is one of the silliest things I've ever seen. If your daddy/mommy is paying for all your shit, and they send you to Harvard and buy you a sports car, and hook you up with all the most influential people in your industry ... you're not poor.

As opposed to the kid born to a crack whore mother and no father in a shitty, crime-ridden neighborhood. Best case scenario? He works his ass off in school, doesn't get shot, and gets a scholarship before settling into a middle class job and lifestyle. He's never going to get to hobnob with the folks at the top of the ladder like Richie Rich does. More likely, he'll drop out of school, or go to community college. Because being poor is fucking hard, and soul-crushing, and most people aren't strong enough to handle it perfectly.

I don't know you, so I could be wrong, but from the things you write it seems to me you've probably never gone hungry.

"That is one of the silliest things I've ever seen."

What more silly than SmokeALibs comments to me a European telling me to move out of America when I already told him I live here on the European Continent?

WTF the American Education System is this bad that it produces people like SmokeALib who have such terrible comprehensible skills?