This is the Age of Censorship!

[JakeStarkey]

What you think is relevant, Yurt, and please add evidence, which you rarely do when you make an assertion.

 

[Yurt]

what do you want me to say about consensus mr. never backs up his claims that i asked him to

notice jake shuts his clam when i ask a tough question

 

[JakeStarkey]

what do you want me to say about consensus mr. never backs up his claims that i asked him to

notice jake shuts his clam when i ask a tough question

Answered previously in 81. Add something of relevance, please.

 

[Yurt]

What you think is relevant, Yurt, and please add evidence, which you rarely do when you make an assertion.

post 81 above

what do you want me to say about consensus mr. never backs up his claims that i asked him to

notice jake shuts his clam when i ask a tough question

Answered previously in 81. Add something of relevance, please.

how does post 81 answer my question?

 

[sfcalifornia]

It is remarkable how successful the media has been in closing down debate. Not merely marginalizing opposing voices, but actually shhhhushing those questions whose answers might prove....embarrassing.
Even momentous inquiries of an eschatological nature! Shhhhh!


1. Imagine if one were so obstrusive as to critique Obama as a Marxist, or a socialist, or a 'fellow traveler.' Even if a quotation from Obama himself were provided ( "...spreading the wealth..." "...you didn't build that..."), there would be instant shock, rejection, derision, and scoffing in disbelief.
One would be discredited...even if one were to speak of policies such as socialized medicine, that definitively Marxist program, one roundly applauded by Bolsheviks, progressives, statists, socialists, and fellow travelers.

2. What has been accomplished in our modern era is denial of reality. Not bad enough that freedom loving, individualistic, self-reliant Americans have elected a President who could accurately be identified with the terms Marxist, or socialist, or statist....but even worse, "one cannot even broach the subject without triggering an avalanche of opprobrium."
West, "American Betrayal," p.25.

3. "Even beyond the question of how Americans elected a man incubated in a radical comfort zone peopled by Stalinists, Maoists, card-carrying Communists, socialists, and postmodern revolutionaries unhelpfully obscured as "Alinskyites," and who first ran for elected office as both a Democrat and socialist (New Party) "fusion" candidate, how did this topic of crucial public interest become a conversation ender, something to wave off, frantically, like a bad smell?" Ibid.






a. " The assertion that Barack Obama is a socialist became a hallmark of the 2008 presidential campaign... “When you spread the wealth around,” Obama had said, “it’s good for everybody.” That, McCain insisted, sounded “a lot like socialism,” as did Obama’s proposals to raise taxes on the wealthy and high earners for the explicit purpose of taking better care of the lower and middle classes with that redistributed money. Republicans believed they had hit a rhetorical mother lode with this line of argument in 2008, but their efforts to make hay of Obama’s putative socialism proved unedifying, if not outright comic."
« What Kind of Socialist Is Barack Obama? Commentary Magazine






4. Who let America down?
Was it the Democrats, the party owned lock-stock-and barrel by the far Left, the socialists, the Marxists?
Was it the American public, the folks who seemed unable to get excited about anything, the folks who epitomized George Santayana's warnings?

No, it was the Right...the so-called conservative pundits who didn't scream, or make much of a fuss about the attitudes and associations of the Marxist candidate.

a. In October of 2008, on Fox, Charles Krauthammer had his chance....and, instead, pooh-poohed the socialism:

" Since the word "socialism" has reared its ugly head, let's dispose of it..... Socialism actually is when the government takes over means of production, or Lenin called the commanding heights of the economy.... Now, obviously what Obama is talking about is what we have had for a long time, progressive taxation. Now, he wants to raise the marginal income tax rate from about 36 percent today to about 39.5. It is a little higher because he wants to eliminate a lot of deductions that the other income people have, so perhaps it's in the 40's."
'Special Report' Panel Discuses Whether Obama's Tax Plan Is Socialism in Disguise; Whatever Happened to Bipartisanship? | Fox News



b. There seems to be fear from those who should give the story the prominence it deserves, and the reason was ably described by Andrew C. McCarthy as ..."fog from the vaporous arsenal to which Alinskyites resort when they know that clarity would betray their radicalism and antagonize the public."
Read more at National Review?s Andrew McCarthy Has a Sweet Jihad For You



So....American could have been a champ, but our big brothers sold us out. They had a chance to lay it all out....to make it a fight....but played word games instead.




On The Waterfront-The most Famous scene with that quote-I Could Have Been A Contender.flv - YouTube




America got a one way ticket to palookaville.

.........there would be instant shock, rejection, derision, and scoffing in disbelief.

BFD

None of that = censorship.

And really? You're going to try to tell us FAUXNews and other right-wing news sources aren't ever shocked or reject, deride or scoff in disbelief? Partisan crap.

If you're gonna go on and blather about censorship, then where's the censorship?

The rest of your post is just aimless chatter about how Obama is a socialist. Yawn.

Just the usual pseudo-intellectual BS from PC.

Lol. Notice a lack of any substantive argument. It isn't censorship because you say so. How childish.

So what exactly is being censored here and by whom?

Or is this just another general conservative whine-fest, pissy because the media is being unfair to pissy, whiney conservatives who say stupid things?

 

[Antares]

what do you want me to say about consensus mr. never backs up his claims that i asked him to

Reactionary must Jake's word of the day.

 

[JakeStarkey]