Jarlaxle
Gold Member
They HAD to show this picture with the guy sitting up on the others chest area....if he was back farther - that would look NASTY! Lol! Anyone with a brain would know this isn't necessarily the position they were in, nobody knows that....and they certainly didn't stay in that position if they were struggling!
Anyone with a Brain knows that IS the position they were in.
Anyone with a Brain also knows that it's close to impossible to pull a gun from behind in that position.
Add in Zimmerman testified he had been knocked silly.
Add in Zimmerman testified that they both "struggled" for the gun after Martin "saw" the gun (neat trick, Martin must have had xray vision) after which, Zimmerman was able to get Martin into an "arm lock" (so much for the "poor" fighting skills) and pull his weapon away, aim it and fire a near perfect shot through the heart.
In any case..you guys buy these inconsistencies - hook, line and sinker.
Not at all impossible nor even that difficult. Two points
1. And you can test this if you want. The assailant leans forward either to throw a punch or put pressure on the chest, the person on the bottom can arch their back plenty long enough to pull a gun
2. If the head was being bashed into the ground the assailant would have to lean forward, removing pressure from the hips and again, easy arch.
You obviously never wrestled.
That photo is almost funny when you think about it
Fights normally happen with motion
I just tried this, with my wife's assistance. I suspect the relative sizes are pretty close: I'm 5'10", ~245lbs, and, err...round. She's 5'8", lean, muscular, and very strong. She had a hard time finding an angle where I COULDN'T reach a pistol in a Maqui rig. Also note: the pistol we used was my S&W Model 29, MUCH larger than Zimmerman's.
We tried to do it with positions reversed, but her only holster is a shoulder rig, so we really couldn't.