This is why we need to tax the wealthy

[Libby von H]

Billy000

Capital gains, if any, are only collected when an asset, like rental property, is sold and a profit is realized. Until then the value is 'uncertain', as we have seen in the past when housing values collapsed.

Do you propose to force the sale of such assets held by the rich?

Get a clue....the taxers would be the very people you are talking about !!!!

Majority of lawmakers in 116th Congress are millionaires​

 

[Woodznutz]

Get a clue....the taxers would be the very people you are talking about !!!!

Majority of lawmakers in 116th Congress are millionaires​

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[BackAgain]

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Ok. So you don’t wish to answer the questions.

Not exactly a surprise.

 

[Oldestyle]

When did I ever suggest we adopt a non-profit marketless mode of production or communism at this time? I wasn't even referring to it, so you're just resorting to strawmen arguments. Nothing I mentioned is an "iron fist" or oppressive, it's simply a set of regulations that perhaps you don't like but that in and of itself doesn't make it communism or anything other than just a regulatory economic framework to increase production and genuine prosperity. Markets need to be properly regulated and society sets its rules through its government.

You're also clueless to the fact that communism is a stateless society, without socioeconomic classes or the need for money. That's not my definition of communism, that's the definition as set by Karl Marx himself along with his colleague and fellow scholar Fredrick Engels.

A communist society would entail the absence of private property and social classes,[1] and ultimately money[6][non-primary source needed] and the state (or nation state).[7][8][9]

Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And see:

Withering away of the state - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The USSR wasn't really a communist state, it was a socialist one.

USSR = UNITED SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS.

It wasn't communist in a strict sense. Socialism is the process that leads to communism. It can take several forms, from market socialism to marketless socialism as the one in the USSR. It all depends.

Are you making the claim that communism as we've seen it play out over the years hasn't had "classes"? What country that implemented communism didn't have a ruling class that lived far better lives than the average citizen?

And claiming that the Soviet Union wasn't a communist government because it had "Socialist" in it's name is laughable! The formal name of the Nazi Party had "Socialist" in it too...that didn't make it a socialist government! Use your head.

 

[Nostra]

Um yes, they also got a ton of that. You want to look up how much those like Musk has got?

How much?

Didnt he save the planet with his heavy metals powered cars?

 

[pknopp]

How much?

Didnt he save the planet with his heavy metals powered cars?

$4.9 billion noted here.

Elon Musk's Twitter marks BBC, NPR as 'government funded' but not Tesla, SpaceX - Good Jobs First.

 

[Oldestyle]

When did I ever suggest we adopt a non-profit marketless mode of production or communism at this time? I wasn't even referring to it, so you're just resorting to strawmen arguments. Nothing I mentioned is an "iron fist" or oppressive, it's simply a set of regulations that perhaps you don't like but that in and of itself doesn't make it communism or anything other than just a regulatory economic framework to increase production and genuine prosperity. Markets need to be properly regulated and society sets its rules through its government.

You're also clueless to the fact that communism is a stateless society, without socioeconomic classes or the need for money. That's not my definition of communism, that's the definition as set by Karl Marx himself along with his colleague and fellow scholar Fredrick Engels.

A communist society would entail the absence of private property and social classes,[1] and ultimately money[6][non-primary source needed] and the state (or nation state).[7][8][9]

Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And see:

Withering away of the state - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The USSR wasn't really a communist state, it was a socialist one.

USSR = UNITED SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS.

It wasn't communist in a strict sense. Socialism is the process that leads to communism. It can take several forms, from market socialism to marketless socialism as the one in the USSR. It all depends.

And claiming that communism is a "stateless society" might very well be the dumbest thing anyone has ever uttered on this board! Communism is ALL about the State! Ask anyone who has ever lived under a communist government!

 

[Nostra]

$4.9 billion noted here.

Elon Musk's Twitter marks BBC, NPR as 'government funded' but not Tesla, SpaceX - Good Jobs First.

So you oppose government subsidies for electric cars? Glad to have you on board.

Weird how you single out Musk. Why is that?

 

[BackAgain]

We do tax the wealthy.

The thread premise is absurd.

 

[pknopp]

So you oppose government subsidies for electric cars? Glad to have you on board.

Yes, I always have been.

Weird how you single out Musk. Why is that?

Easy pickings since he has got so much from the taxpayers.

 

[Nostra]

Yes, I always have been.




Easy pickings since he has got so much from the taxpayers.

So you want to destroy the planet.

And we all know why you picked Musk, hack.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Billionaires Are Hoarding Trillions in Untaxed Wealth. They Want the Supreme Court to Keep It That Way

A new report from Americans for Tax Fairness found that America’s richest families accumulated $8.5 trillion in untaxed capital gains in 2022

www.yahoo.com

TRILLIONS in untaxed wealth. Good luck explaining this to republicans I guess. You have to explain the difference between the official tax rate and the EFFECTIVE tax rate of top earners.

how do you think the 50% of the worthless god damned human beings who pay little tax gunna fucking eat moron

 

[pknopp]

So you want to destroy the planet.

And we all know why you picked Musk, hack.

Because I disagree with all the taxpayers money he has leeched off of?

 

[Nostra]

Because I disagree with all the taxpayers money he has leeched off of?

Nope. He gets a small fraction of the money spent on green energy. You singled him out because he is opposing the tyranny of your party.

 

[BluesLegend]

Um yes, they also got a ton of that. You want to look up how much those like Musk has got?

I have no time for your wealth envy bitterness.

 

[pknopp]

Nope. He gets a small fraction of the money spent on green energy. You singled him out because he is opposing the tyranny of your party.

What party would that be?

Go ahead do your little hissy fit.

 

[pknopp]

I have no time for your wealth envy bitterness.

We give billions away and you defend that while crying out of the other side of your mouth about the bloated budgets.

 

[Nostra]

What party would that be?

Go ahead do your little hissy fit.

Oh, I forgot. You are one of those hard core Dimwingers who are chicken to admit you are a Dimwinger.

Run along, kid.

 

[pknopp]

Oh, I forgot. You are one of those hard core Dimwingers who are chicken to admit you are a Dimwinger.

Run along, kid.

You are the Democrat, as deceitful as the day is long.

 

[Jarlaxle]

If you don't like paying to support the system quit taking what it creates for you.

That's stupid.

LMAO riiiiight the NY throughway, paid for long ago...Dems still toll the fuck out of it.

And the Mass Pike.