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This should be a bipartisan issue. It should be illegal for airlines to overbook

I have been the lucky recipient of those offers to take a later flight. I got to fly later on to Colorado on them. Let them pay for overbooking. We don't need more federal laws and regulations.
That might be OK for you, but it might not be for someone trying to get to a very important meeting,a funeral, to see s dying loved one or to meet with a government agent for the sake of a dear relative.

Not everyone has the freedom to waste time.

A business nor anyone else should be able to sell what they do not have.

One can pay for a guaranteed seat. People buy budget flights knowing they can be bumped. One doesn't pay the Wal-Mart price and get Macy's service/quality.

He won't get anything for being bumped but he'll get something for assault IMO.
 
The same people that bitch about over booking will scream bloody murder if the ticket price goes up.
There should be no recourse, to Force Majeure for the private sector, but for actual emergencies.

Capital should work fine in the public sector in public accommodation.

There should be no limits on compensation due to airlines routinely overbooking, simply for the bottom line.
 
How long before people who buy something they don't have start going elsewhere? Not very long at all.

And how many innocent people have to die from bad drugs, bad business practices, doctors unable to get to their patients, highway wrecks, etc because we have stupidly decided that 'free market' = 'corrupt chaotic market'?
The two are not the same. a truly free market is a market that is well regulated and validated to not be rigged, criminal, or lethal to its customers.

The free market is the way to go. Take this United story for instance, you think this won't have an impact on their market share?

Yeah, but too late if he had a critical medical treatment for his patient, or any number of other things.

How many innocent deaths are an acceptable loss each year for your version of a free market?

Who has the free market killed?

Answer: no one.

And I never said no regulations, I said we don't need more regulations.

You're kidding, right?

Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

And to say we don't need more is to deny an ever changing landscape as well as scientific discoveries.

1. It's funny you have to go back that far.
2. They weren't killed my the free market.

Sorry, the answer is still zero.
 
The airlines are shit, run by shits, but,

if they stop overbooking then it is fair for them to sell you only non-refundable tickets.

They should sell tickets first come, first served, and when they get into overbook status, they should inform the ticket buyer that they are in line to be bumped if every person who bought tickets ahead of them shows up.
FTR: This isn't a case of overbooking.

It was the airline wanting to make 4 seats available for their own employees.
 
The airlines are shit, run by shits, but,

if they stop overbooking then it is fair for them to sell you only non-refundable tickets.

They should sell tickets first come, first served, and when they get into overbook status, they should inform the ticket buyer that they are in line to be bumped if every person who bought tickets ahead of them shows up.
FTR: This isn't a case of overbooking.

It was the airline wanting to make 4 seats available for their own employees.

Good point.
 
I'm guessing that passenger will own that plane, effectively, after the lawyers get through with United.
 
This is obviously a case of the airlines running at absolutely skeleton-like levels to minimize costs. I don't remember the last time I had a trip that wasn't delayed at least once.

I wish the airlines would all just raise their fares 25% or 30% and flesh themselves out to a point where a fucking empty seat doesn't threaten to bring them down.
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Way too much $$$$ involved. Jet Blue doesn't overbook, and look where they are on the industry food scale.
 
Overbooking pays off, too: Airlines almost always make more from the extra fares than they give back to volunteers in future-travel vouchers. When an airline can’t find enough volunteers—the dreaded “involuntary denied boarding,” as regulators call it—the cost can run as high as $1,300 cash per passenger under revised rules adopted in 2011.

There should be no regulatory limits on compensation.
 
I don't remember the last time I had a trip that wasn't delayed at least once.

What? At how many points in a trip do you usually experience delays? Are you including traffic jams and/or lines at a hotel check-in counters, restaurants, and other locales among your delay count?
I'm not saying your personal experience isn't as you've stated, but rather that your personal experience isn't indicative of actual observed on-time performance by commercial airlines. You must have very poor luck, fly the worst airlines as goes on-time performance, or something.
 
How long before people who buy something they don't have start going elsewhere? Not very long at all.

And how many innocent people have to die from bad drugs, bad business practices, doctors unable to get to their patients, highway wrecks, etc because we have stupidly decided that 'free market' = 'corrupt chaotic market'?
The two are not the same. a truly free market is a market that is well regulated and validated to not be rigged, criminal, or lethal to its customers.

The free market is the way to go. Take this United story for instance, you think this won't have an impact on their market share?

Yeah, but too late if he had a critical medical treatment for his patient, or any number of other things.

How many innocent deaths are an acceptable loss each year for your version of a free market?

Who has the free market killed?

Answer: no one.

And I never said no regulations, I said we don't need more regulations.

You're kidding, right?

Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

And to say we don't need more is to deny an ever changing landscape as well as scientific discoveries.

1. It's funny you have to go back that far.
2. They weren't killed my the free market.

Sorry, the answer is still zero.
We are talking about an unregulated 'free' market that some espouse vrs a regulated free market that I and most of AMerican prefer. We prefer it to avoid the unnecessary deaths of innocent people who might other wise perish due to unsafe products like the chemical crap that some of the Chinese milk producers were putting in their milk recently.

The only problem with capitalism is the capitalists because they are dominated by sociopathic greedy bastards.
 
I don't think we need any more laws/regulations, but I kind of feel like this should fall into idk contract breach or something. I'm guessing legally it's more along the lines of you call a cab and they never show up so you have to call another - not exactly something you have a legal claim against.

That said, we consumers are not limited to the legality of an action by a company. #BoycotUnited and they can shove that legal fine print up their ass.
 
If you pay for the service, you should get the service.

One should not have to get off an airplane because the AIRLINE sold your seat twice.

UTTER NONSENSE!

THE GUY SHOULD HAVE LEFT PEACEFULLY, but overbooking is bullshit.

United is Asiaphobic.

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Video shows man getting dragged off overbooked United flight
I don't think it should be illegal, but I think passengers should have the right to sue if they get bumped. This regulation that says they can't is just plain unjust and insane.
 
How long before people who buy something they don't have start going elsewhere? Not very long at all.

And how many innocent people have to die from bad drugs, bad business practices, doctors unable to get to their patients, highway wrecks, etc because we have stupidly decided that 'free market' = 'corrupt chaotic market'?
The two are not the same. a truly free market is a market that is well regulated and validated to not be rigged, criminal, or lethal to its customers.

The free market is the way to go. Take this United story for instance, you think this won't have an impact on their market share?

Yeah, but too late if he had a critical medical treatment for his patient, or any number of other things.

How many innocent deaths are an acceptable loss each year for your version of a free market?

Who has the free market killed?

Answer: no one.

And I never said no regulations, I said we don't need more regulations.

You're kidding, right?

Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

And to say we don't need more is to deny an ever changing landscape as well as scientific discoveries.

1. It's funny you have to go back that far.
2. They weren't killed my the free market.

Sorry, the answer is still zero.
We are talking about an unregulated 'free' market that some espouse vrs a regulated free market that I and most of AMerican prefer. We prefer it to avoid the unnecessary deaths of innocent people who might other wise perish due to unsafe products like the chemical crap that some of the Chinese milk producers were putting in their milk recently.

The only problem with capitalism is the capitalists because they are dominated by sociopathic greedy bastards.

So you think the Chinese market is not regulated?

Do you see the problem with your logic?
 
No volunteers, the last person to book is the first one off.
Nope. the airline should have to keep upping the compensation they offer until someone accepts. That will allow them to determine how much overbooking is pissing off their customers and price it accordingly.
 
How long before people who buy something they don't have start going elsewhere? Not very long at all.

And how many innocent people have to die from bad drugs, bad business practices, doctors unable to get to their patients, highway wrecks, etc because we have stupidly decided that 'free market' = 'corrupt chaotic market'?
The two are not the same. a truly free market is a market that is well regulated and validated to not be rigged, criminal, or lethal to its customers.

The free market is the way to go. Take this United story for instance, you think this won't have an impact on their market share?

Yeah, but too late if he had a critical medical treatment for his patient, or any number of other things.

How many innocent deaths are an acceptable loss each year for your version of a free market?

Who has the free market killed?

Answer: no one.

And I never said no regulations, I said we don't need more regulations.

You're kidding, right?

Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

And to say we don't need more is to deny an ever changing landscape as well as scientific discoveries.

1. It's funny you have to go back that far.
2. They weren't killed my the free market.

Sorry, the answer is still zero.
We are talking about an unregulated 'free' market that some espouse vrs a regulated free market that I and most of AMerican prefer. We prefer it to avoid the unnecessary deaths of innocent people who might other wise perish due to unsafe products like the chemical crap that some of the Chinese milk producers were putting in their milk recently.

The only problem with capitalism is the capitalists because they are dominated by sociopathic greedy bastards.

I never said "unregulated". No one is saying that. I simply said we Disney need a regulation over overbooking.

Calm your socialist mania down a few notches.
 

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