This warm winter we're having

[TyroneSlothrop]

Dr. Tim Ball blew the whistle on that misleading crap many years ago.[/QUOTE]
LOL where is his peer reviewed report'

Tim Ball - SourceWatch
Dr. Timothy Ball is Chairman and Chair of the Scientific Advisory Committee of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP).[1] Two of the three directors of the NRSP - Timothy Egan and Julio Lagos - are executives with the PR and lobbying company, the High Park Group (HPG).[2] Both HPG and Egan and Lagos work for energy industry clients and companies on energy policy.[3]

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

"Over North America, this winter will definitely not be normal. However, the climatic events of the past decade make 'normal' difficult to define," Patzert told the Earth Observatory.


Upcoming El Niño May Be As Wild As 1997 Event

From the article you posted. The events of the past decade make "normal" hard to define. As in a changing climate. Surely did not prove what ever it is that you are trying to prove.

Climate has always changed, it's called nature. What do you want humans to do about it? There are patterns, normal is an average but I even posted the graphic image for you.

Science contradicts you and the rest of the hysterics...produce a God damn peer reviewed paper.....

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

How come these "skeptics" do not produce Scientific peer reviewed studies ...how come

 

[frigidweirdo]

Old Rocks, you're a fucking brainwashed fool.

Brainwashed because.... he provides evidence?

He has provided no evidence whatsoever to back up his position that increasing CO2 levels are having any deleterious effect on our climate. Zero, zip, nothing.

He just mindlessly repeats the Global Warming Alarmist mantra like the brainwashed doomsday cult member that he is. And it is a doomsday cult. I've studied these cults extensively for years. It's got all of the elements of doomsday cults, even a messiah. Al Gore is like their Jim Jones.

So, because there is not 100% evidence for something, does this mean it's not the case?

What you see are educated guesses. Looking at information, trying to plug gaps.

What happens on your side is a complete rejection of something you find inconvenient, ignoring things because there are things you feel you can ignore. You give a name, like cult, and then you go around telling everyone how it's a cult and then laugh hysterically at it all and how stupid these people are..... yet, you're not doing anything intelligent.

People who say we're polluting the world and changing things are looking at what is happening and trying to predict. They might be wrong, but they might be only slightly wrong, at which point you say they're wrong and therefore NOTHING is happening. That's ridiculous.

We KNOW that we're killing the seas by pumping CO2 into the atmosphere. That much is proven by a big change in the PH levels of the sea and the destruction of marine habitat. But of course, you don't care about the sea, you don't live in it, so it's okay as long as rich people are making money.

 

[Moonglow]

I wear a
Two-Layer Union Suit
in the winter to reduce the effects of climate change...

 

[Iceweasel]

We KNOW that we're killing the seas by pumping CO2 into the atmosphere. That much is proven by a big change in the PH levels of the sea and the destruction of marine habitat. But of course, you don't care about the sea, you don't live in it, so it's okay as long as rich people are making money.

You backed up your theory by attacking rich people? That makes no sense.

We are polluting less as technology advances. That is true across the globe and will continue to be true. What more do you recommend besides trying to make people feel guilty for exhaling?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

]Dr. Tim Ball blew the whistle on that misleading crap many years ago.

Tim Ball is a Joke...look how they try to pump this prostitute into actually knowing something on Climate LOL... some ding bat claims this clown proved something LOL

"Dr. Ball is a renowned environmental consultant and former [retired] professor of climatology at the University of Winnipeg. Dr. Ball has served on many local and national committees and as Chair of Provincial boards on water management, environmental issues and sustainable development. Dr. Ball has given over 600 public talks over the last decade on science and the environment. He is the co-author of the book Eighteenth Century Naturalists of Hudson Bay (2004 - McGill/Queens University Press) with Dr. Stuart Houston, one of the World's leading authorities on arctic birds," his NRSP biographical note states."[1]

However, more correctly, Dr. Ball was a former professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg between 1988 to 1996. The University of Winnipeg never had a climatology department.[7]

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Trashing "Dr Tim Ball" he is a loser a fake and a prostitute


Lawsuit
In September 2006, Ball filed a lawsuit against The Calgary Herald, a division of CanWest MediaWorks, specifically naming four of its staff, as well as Dr. Dan Johnson, a professor of environmental science at the Department of Geography at the University of Lethbridge and the Board of Governors of the University of Lethbridge. Ball's suit is over the publication of a letter to the editor published in April 2006 by Johnson responding to an opinion column by Ball. In his statement of claim, Ball objects to Johnson's letter in which statements about his academic record were disputed. Ball's claim seeks $250,000 in damages, special damages for loss of future income and punitive damages of $75,000.[10]

Johnson has filed an 18-page statement of defence denying "each and every allegation of fact and law" made by Ball.[10]

In the face of this and an even-more strident Statement of Defence by the Calgary Herald (“The Plantiff (Dr. Ball) is viewed as a paid promoter of the agenda of the oil and gas industry rather than as a practicing scientist.”), Ball withdrew the suit in June 2007.[10]

 

[Muhammed]

How come you deniers cannot produce one single solitary Peer reviewed study proving that there is no Global warming ...

The fact of the matter is that the Earth's climate has been on a long-term cooling trend for billions of years.

 

[Crick]

Billions? And what percentage of those billions of years have humans existed and had a cultural infrastructure vulnerable to rapid warming? 150 years / 3.5 billion years = 0.0000004286%

 

[Muhammed]

Old Rocks, you're a fucking brainwashed fool.

Brainwashed because.... he provides evidence?

He has provided no evidence whatsoever to back up his position that increasing CO2 levels are having any deleterious effect on our climate. Zero, zip, nothing.

He just mindlessly repeats the Global Warming Alarmist mantra like the brainwashed doomsday cult member that he is. And it is a doomsday cult. I've studied these cults extensively for years. It's got all of the elements of doomsday cults, even a messiah. Al Gore is like their Jim Jones.

So, because there is not 100% evidence for something, does this mean it's not the case?

What you see are educated guesses. Looking at information, trying to plug gaps.

What happens on your side is a complete rejection of something you find inconvenient, ignoring things because there are things you feel you can ignore. You give a name, like cult, and then you go around telling everyone how it's a cult and then laugh hysterically at it all and how stupid these people are..... yet, you're not doing anything intelligent.

People who say we're polluting the world and changing things are looking at what is happening and trying to predict. They might be wrong, but they might be only slightly wrong, at which point you say they're wrong and therefore NOTHING is happening. That's ridiculous.

We KNOW that we're killing the seas by pumping CO2 into the atmosphere. That much is proven by a big change in the PH levels of the sea and the destruction of marine habitat. But of course, you don't care about the sea, you don't live in it, so it's okay as long as rich people are making money.

I'm just too knowledgable to believe that the trace gas CO2 is some super tail that wags the climate dog.

And regarding ocean acidification, I believe that is primarily due to the centuries long oceanic cooling trend. As the ocean cools it entrains more CO2. See Henry's law.

 

[Crick]

1) The ocean has NOT been cooling for the last century

2) The increased CO2 in solution and its decreased pH can be related perfectly to the increased CO2 partial pressure in the Earth's atmosphere. See Henry's Law ["At a constant temperature, the amount of a given gas that dissolves in a given type and volume of liquid is directly proportional to the partial pressure of that gas in equilibrium with that liquid."] The proportional change in pCO2 over the last 150 years is orders of magnitude higher than any change in absolute temperature you can find in the history of this planet.

 

[Muhammed]

1) The ocean has NOT been cooling for the last century

It's been cooling for several centuries.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Boys, 194 nations state that you side is full of shit. And I don't care how many times you post this shit that there is no consensus, the fact that all the Scientific Societies, all the National Academies of Science,and all the major Universities state that AGW is a fact, and that it is a clear and present danger, definitely shows that the 97% is not only real, but an underestimation of the consensus.

Empirical evidence says your side is full of shit old fraud! Consensus is a political whores word and is not based in science. And your 97% lie has been torn to shreds so many times its not worth my time to show you the liar you are. All circular logical fallacies and appeals to authority.. its all your side has when the facts and evidence clearly shows you a fool.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The earth has been cooling since the last ice age ended and the initial warm up occurred. AGW fools are so easily duped.

 

[Wyatt earp]

List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations
(Scientific Organizations That Hold the Position That Climate Change Has Been Caused by Human Action)

1. Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
2. Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
3. Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
4. Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
5. Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
6. Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
7. Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
8. Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
9. Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
10. Académie des Sciences, France
11. Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
12. Academy of Athens
13. Academy of Science of Mozambique
14. Academy of Science of South Africa
15. Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
16. Academy of Sciences Malaysia
17. Academy of Sciences of Moldova
18. Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
19. Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
20. Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
21. Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
22. Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
23. Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
24. African Academy of Sciences
25. Albanian Academy of Sciences
26. Amazon Environmental Research Institute
27. American Academy of Pediatrics
28. American Anthropological Association
29. American Association for the Advancement of Science
30. American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
31. American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
32. American Astronomical Society
33. American Chemical Society
34. American College of Preventive Medicine
35. American Fisheries Society
36. American Geophysical Union
37. American Institute of Biological Sciences
38. American Institute of Physics
39. American Meteorological Society
40. American Physical Society
41. American Public Health Association
42. American Quaternary Association
43. American Society for Microbiology
44. American Society of Agronomy
45. American Society of Civil Engineers
46. American Society of Plant Biologists
47. American Statistical Association
48. Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
49. Australian Academy of Science
50. Australian Bureau of Meteorology
51. Australian Coral Reef Society
52. Australian Institute of Marine Science
53. Australian Institute of Physics
54. Australian Marine Sciences Association
55. Australian Medical Association
56. Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
57. Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
58. Botanical Society of America
59. Brazilian Academy of Sciences
60. British Antarctic Survey
61. Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
62. California Academy of Sciences
63. Cameroon Academy of Sciences
64. Canadian Association of Physicists
65. Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
66. Canadian Geophysical Union
67. Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
68. Canadian Society of Soil Science
69. Canadian Society of Zoologists
70. Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
71. Center for International Forestry Research
72. Chinese Academy of Sciences
73. Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
74. Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
75. Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
76. Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
77. Crop Science Society of America
78. Cuban Academy of Sciences
79. Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
80. Ecological Society of America
81. Ecological Society of Australia
82. Environmental Protection Agency
83. European Academy of Sciences and Arts
84. European Federation of Geologists
85. European Geosciences Union
86. European Physical Society
87. European Science Foundation
88. Federation of American Scientists
89. French Academy of Sciences
90. Geological Society of America
91. Geological Society of Australia
92. Geological Society of London
93. Georgian Academy of Sciences
94. German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
95. Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
96. Indian National Science Academy
97. Indonesian Academy of Sciences
98. Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
99. Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
100. Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand
101. Institution of Mechanical Engineers, UK
102. InterAcademy Council
103. International Alliance of Research Universities
104. International Arctic Science Committee
105. International Association for Great Lakes Research
106. International Council for Science
107. International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
108. International Research Institute for Climate and Society
109. International Union for Quaternary Research
110. International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
111. International Union of Pure and Applied Physics
112. Islamic World Academy of Sciences
113. Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
114. Kenya National Academy of Sciences
115. Korean Academy of Science and Technology
116. Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts
117. l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
118. Latin American Academy of Sciences
119. Latvian Academy of Sciences
120. Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
121. Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
122. Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
123. Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
124. National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
125. National Academy of Sciences of Armenia
126. National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic
127. National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka
128. National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
129. National Aeronautics and Space Administration
130. National Association of Geoscience Teachers
131. National Association of State Foresters
132. National Center for Atmospheric Research
133. National Council of Engineers Australia
134. National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
135. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
136. National Research Council
137. National Science Foundation
138. Natural England
139. Natural Environment Research Council, UK
140. Natural Science Collections Alliance
141. Network of African Science Academies
142. New York Academy of Sciences
143. Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
144. Nigerian Academy of Sciences
145. Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
146. Oklahoma Climatological Survey
147. Organization of Biological Field Stations
148. Pakistan Academy of Sciences
149. Palestine Academy for Science and Technology
150. Pew Center on Global Climate Change
151. Polish Academy of Sciences
152. Romanian Academy
153. Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
154. Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
155. Royal Astronomical Society, UK
156. Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
157. Royal Irish Academy
158. Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
159. Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
160. Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
161. Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
162. Royal Society of Canada
163. Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
164. Royal Society of the United Kingdom
165. Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
166. Russian Academy of Sciences
167. Science and Technology, Australia
168. Science Council of Japan
169. Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research
170. Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
171. Scripps Institution of Oceanography
172. Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
173. Slovak Academy of Sciences
174. Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
175. Society for Ecological Restoration International
176. Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
177. Society of American Foresters
178. Society of Biology (UK)
179. Society of Systematic Biologists
180. Soil Science Society of America
181. Sudan Academy of Sciences
182. Sudanese National Academy of Science
183. Tanzania Academy of Sciences
184. The Wildlife Society (international)
185. Turkish Academy of Sciences
186. Uganda National Academy of Sciences
187. Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
188. United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
189. University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
190. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
191. World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
192. World Federation of Public Health Associations
193. World Forestry Congress
194. World Health Organization
195. World Meteorological Organization
196. Zambia Academy of Sciences
197. Zimbabwe Academy of Science

Office of Planning and Research - List of Organizations

Another bullshit list of society of plants and civil engineers...

No links why, how just a made up list...

 

[Crick]

1) The ocean has NOT been cooling for the last century

It's been cooling for several centuries.

Let's see your data. In particular, let's see some data showing cooling for the last 150 years, the period over which scientist's data show it to be warming and growing more acidic (less alkaline) due to increase CO2 levels in the atmosphere.

 

[Crick]

Empirical evidence says your side is full of shit old fraud!

What empirical evidence would that be Billy Boy?

Consensus is a political whores word and is not based in science.

Your comment is worthless bullshit.

And your 97% lie has been torn to shreds so many times its not worth my time to show you the liar you are.

It's not worth your time because it's never been refuted and you couldn't show anything but what a fool you are by trying.

All circular logical fallacies and appeals to authority.. its all your side has when the facts and evidence clearly shows you a fool.

God are you stupid. Merry Christmas. One of the very few things that can be so just because you say it is.

 

[Old Rocks]

How come you deniers cannot produce one single solitary Peer reviewed study proving that there is no Global warming ...

The fact of the matter is that the Earth's climate has been on a long-term cooling trend for billions of years.

Silly ass, learn something before you spout nonsense. There have been a couple of cooling periods that make the present glacial periods look positively warm. They were called snowball earths.

 

[Muhammed]

How come you deniers cannot produce one single solitary Peer reviewed study proving that there is no Global warming ...

The fact of the matter is that the Earth's climate has been on a long-term cooling trend for billions of years.

Silly ass, learn something before you spout nonsense. There have been a couple of cooling periods that make the present glacial periods look positively warm. They were called snowball earths.

That's short term variability. I'm talking about the long term trend, obviously.

The fact of the matter is that you can say the Earth is cooling and be correct.

Another relevant fact is that all climate change is natural.