Those who want to ban all guns do not live in the real world

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why not register all guns. We register all cars, all houses.
You are a paranoid coward that thinks then government will come for your guns. IDIOT

And why not? Did you read Biden's gun plans when he was running for President? I did.

He wanted all gun owners to have to get a federal license to own the guns they've owned for years or even generations. He wanted to force every gun owner to have a psychological exam at your cost of $800.00. Some anti-gun shrink would interview you, your employer, your coworkers, your neighbors, your ex-wife, everybody. Then he would make a determination as to whether you could own a gun or not based on their answers.

Mind you Dementia never carried through with his plans, but the Congress did try to pass his measures. That's why you don't want the federal government to know about your guns. If he got his way, you would be getting a notice that you must get this federal license for the guns you legally own, or else.........

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Bullshit
There are plenty of reasons to have a gun for protection but in truth private ownership, more often, is used to intimidate, shootings in domestic arguments, suicide etc.. You are more likely to be harmed by a gun, if you own a gun.

Gun Threats and Self-Defense Gun Use

1-3. Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense We use epidemiological theory to explain why the “false positive” problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the i…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

You are more likely to be harmed or killed in a car if you own a car. What's your point?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Eight years of conservatives lying about guns being ‘banned’ and ‘confiscated.’

It never happened.

Another Democratic president and conservatives are lying again about guns being ‘banned’ and ‘confiscated’ – and again it won’t happen.

Listen to the thundering applause.

You can shut the fuck up now.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Bullshit
There are plenty of reasons to have a gun for protection but in truth private ownership, more often, is used to intimidate, shootings in domestic arguments, suicide etc.. You are more likely to be harmed by a gun, if you own a gun.

Gun Threats and Self-Defense Gun Use

1-3. Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense We use epidemiological theory to explain why the “false positive” problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the i…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Fast Facts: Firearm Violence and Injury Prevention |Violence Prevention|Injury Center|CDC

What is a firearm injury? Learn fast facts of firearm violence from the CDC Injury Center.

www.cdc.gov

Although definitions of defensive gun use vary, it is generally defined as the use of a firearm to protect and defend one’s self, family, others, and/or property against crime or victimization.

Estimates of defensive gun use vary depending on the questions asked, populations studied, timeframe, and other factors related to the design of studies. The report Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violenceexternal icon indicates a range of 60,000 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses each year.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Eight years of conservatives lying about guns being ‘banned’ and ‘confiscated.’

Were the various democrats who campaigned on these things lying to us?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Wrong.

There’s nothing in the history, text, or case law of the Second Amendment that ‘authorizes’ insurrectionist dogma.

“…the insurrectionist interpretation of the Declaration of Rights is fundamentally flawed. An historically sound understanding of the Second Amendment's English heritage belies the proposition that the Second Amendment was intended to grant an individual right to keep or bear arms against governmental tyranny.”

http://malvinartley.com/PDF%20Files/THE%20HIDDEN%20HISTORY%20OF%20THE%20SECOND%20AMENDMENT.pdf

All that bullshit spanning 100 pages only to say that "the words of the 2nd Amendment don't mean what they say."

 

[Man of Ethics]

And why doesn't it? Because the MSM never reports those stories. At best on a slow news day, your local news may make mention of it. But it happens dozens of times every single day in this country.

Given the low number of justifiable homicides, I find it unbelievable that more then a few hundred lives per year are saved with guns.

Most of us have seen hundreds of action movies, thus our perception is biased.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Given the low number of justifiable homicides, I find it unbelievable...

The fact you refuse to believe the facts says more about you than it does the facts.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Given the low number of justifiable homicides, I find it unbelievable that more then a few hundred lives per year are saved with guns.

Most of us have seen hundreds of action movies, thus our perception is biased.

Take that up with the CDC and the source it cites stating that defensive use of firearms range from 60,000 to 2.5 million per year.

Fast Facts: Firearm Violence and Injury Prevention |Violence Prevention|Injury Center|CDC

What is a firearm injury? Learn fast facts of firearm violence from the CDC Injury Center.

www.cdc.gov

You may be mistakenly ignoring non-shooting incidents, which occur regularly.

 

[Man of Ethics]

Take that up with the CDC and the source it cites stating that defensive use of firearms rage from 60,000 to 2.5 million per year.

Perhaps almost all these accidents are prevention of a minor crime like common assault.

 

[Man of Ethics]

The fact you refuse to believe the facts says more about you than it does the facts.

Most Americans confuse Reality and Action Movies.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Most Americans confuse Reality and Action Movies.

None of this changes the fact the fact you refuse to believe the facts says more about you than it does the facts.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Perhaps almost all these accidents are prevention of a minor crime like common assault.

Demonstrate this to be true.

 

[Man of Ethics]

Demonstrate this to be true.

Minor assault is an order of magnitude more common then Aggravated Assault.

 

[cnm]

According to rabidly anti-gun Violence Prevention Center, at least 100,000 firearms are used each year in self-defense.

https://vpc.org/studies/justifiable20.pdf

The devastation guns inflict on our nation each and every year is clear. In 2018, guns killed nearly 40,000 Americans with many more wounded, leaving an untold ​

number of lives traumatized and communities shattered.15 Unexamined claims of the efficacy and frequency of the self-defense use of firearms are the default rationale ​

offered by the gun lobby and gun industry for this unceasing, bloody toll. The idea that firearms are frequently used in self-defense is the primary argument that the gun ​

lobby and firearms industry use to expand the carrying of firearms into an ever-increasing number of public spaces and even to prevent the regulation of military-style ​

semiautomatic assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines. Yet this argument is hollow and the assertions false. When analyzing the most reliable data available, what is most striking is that in a nation of more than 300 million guns, how rarely firearms are used in self-defense.16 ​

 

[M14 Shooter]

Minor assault is an order of magnitude more common then Aggravated Assault.

As I thought - you cannot demonstrate your claim to be true.
As usual.

 

[M14 Shooter]

When analyzing the most reliable data available, what is most striking is that in a nation of more than 300 million guns, how rarely firearms are used in self-defense.16 ​

And yet, it happens at least 10x more often than a gun is used to commit murder.
If >100,000/year is rare, what is <10,000/year?

 

[Man of Ethics]

And yet, it happens at least 10x more often than a gun is used to commit murder.
If >100,000/year is rare, what is <10,000/year?

It depends.

One million times a minor assault is prevented is rare.

Thirty thousand fatal shootings per year is frequent.

 

[Man of Ethics]

https://vpc.org/studies/justifiable20.pdf

The devastation guns inflict on our nation each and every year is clear. In 2018, guns killed nearly 40,000 Americans with many more wounded, leaving an untold ​

number of lives traumatized and communities shattered.15 Unexamined claims of the efficacy and frequency of the self-defense use of firearms are the default rationale ​

offered by the gun lobby and gun industry for this unceasing, bloody toll. The idea that firearms are frequently used in self-defense is the primary argument that the gun ​

lobby and firearms industry use to expand the carrying of firearms into an ever-increasing number of public spaces and even to prevent the regulation of military-style ​

semiautomatic assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines. Yet this argument is hollow and the assertions false. When analyzing the most reliable data available, what is most striking is that in a nation of more than 300 million guns, how rarely firearms are used in self-defense.16 ​

Thank you!

This is an updated version of a resource I use.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It depends.

It doesn't.
At least not to the intellectually honest.