To all you calling BS on the Trump indictment…

[BluesLegend]

really? Are there any that agree with Bragg?

Bragg couldn't even get his own DA office to agree with him.

 

[SeaMajor7]

First of all your entire premise is founded on a complete falsehood....
That The Steele Dossier and The Mueller investigation were "lies."
They weren't...and aren't.
You have been told that by a guy who is a proven pathological liar.
Think about it.

Sure thing, skippy.

 

[BS Filter]

Irrelevant.

Of course.

 

[Lastamender]

Apparently, “the libs” have enough courage to walk the walk.
Keep yapping though.
Your team may eventually find enough courage to jettison Trump one day and gain some much needed respect back.

Walk like traitors. They certainly do. And there are no liberals just stupid intolerant dickheads.

 

[Lastamender]

Alan Dershowitz on Trump indictment: "First year law students could get this dismissed”

He is not wrong. This is going to end in embarrassment for Bragg and the left. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/first-year-law-students-could-get-this-dismissed-alan-dershowitz-on-alvin-braggs-hotchpot-indictment-against-president-trump/

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

…

Fifth Amendment

www.law.cornell.edu

Amendment V​

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

To screen out weak cases and protect defendants from facing trial based on unfounded charges, the criminal justice system generally requires the prosecutor to establish that probable cause exists to support their charges. The prosecutor must convince an independent decision-maker—either a judge or grand jury—that the case has merit and should go to trial. In some states, all felony charges must go before a grand jury. But in others, the prosecutor might have a choice between presenting the case to a grand jury or going before a judge in a preliminary hearing.

Why Prosecutors Choose Grand Juries Instead of Preliminary Hearings

The grand jury process is prosecutor-friendly in that grand jurors see and hear only what prosecutors put before them.

www.nolo.com

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Bragg couldn't even get his own DA office to agree with him.

ty

Debate and a variety of opinions is a hallmark of a well run team.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Bragg couldn't even get his own DA office to agree with him.

and you avoided (purposefully?) listing or agreeing/denying that there exist former US attorney generals and countless legal scholars that agree with Bragg.

You've got to stick with what is being discussed:

 

[BS Filter]

Apparently, “the libs” have enough courage to walk the walk.
Keep yapping though.
Your team may eventually find enough courage to jettison Trump one day and gain some much needed respect back.

We're not looking for respect from Democrats. Our goal is to crush you.

 

[BS Filter]

and you avoided (purposefully?) listing or agreeing/denying that there exist former US attorney generals and countless legal scholars that agree with Bragg.

You've got to stick with what is being discussed:

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Oh yeah, and Obama is a Constitutional scholar. He even said so.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Oh yeah, and Obama is a Constitutional scholar. He even said so.

please.

Try being serious and credible in your argument(s).

 

[Lastamender]

and you avoided (purposefully?) listing or agreeing/denying that there exist former US attorney generals and countless legal scholars that agree with Bragg.

You've got to stick with what is being discussed:

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Why don't you name some of the assholes?

 

[BS Filter]

please.

Try being serious and credible in your argument(s).

Follow your own advice.

 

[Blaster]

Election interference by Democrats .

 

[john doe 101]

Here's what I know. This indictment by the Bragg Grand Jury is VERY LIKELY an absolute mockery of justice. You are positing that MAYBE he has something else. Okay, maybe he does. You go live in unicorn land and the rest of us will go with what is known. Alrighty then?

Did you read what you wrote before posting that nonsense? You're criticizing them for exactly the same thing you're saying.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Follow your own advice.

there you go again: strike two

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Election interference by Democrats .

Actually not. The Democratic party of NYC, NY state, or the national party (DNC), are not prosecuting or part of the criminal investigation. It's a legal matter.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

To screen out weak cases and protect defendants from facing trial based on unfounded charges, the criminal justice system generally requires the prosecutor to establish that probable cause exists to support their charges. The prosecutor must convince an independent decision-maker—either a judge or grand jury—that the case has merit and should go to trial. In some states, all felony charges must go before a grand jury. But in others, the prosecutor might have a choice between presenting the case to a grand jury or going before a judge in a preliminary hearing.

Why Prosecutors Choose Grand Juries Instead of Preliminary Hearings

The grand jury process is prosecutor-friendly in that grand jurors see and hear only what prosecutors put before them.

www.nolo.com

Your link is actually right on the mark. The Constitutionally specified rights to “a jury trial” and the proviso that indictments must first go before a Grand Jury … have been ruled to not apply automatically to every individual state and municipality. There are both positive and negative aspects to Grand Juries, which the link you provide addresses. Much more can be said on this subject.

The actual trials Trump is likely to face include several that will almost certainly raise issues far more important than this one.

The state and Federal prosecutors involved will have to produce evidence and arguments and prove to juries Trump’s guilt “beyond a reasonable doubt” … or Trump will likely emerge innocent and even politically strengthened. Whatever charges he is found guilty of committing — if there are any — will almost certainly be appealed.

I recall Trump used to brag he could murder somebody out on 5th Ave. and his supporters would continue to defend him.

Well, I’m happy to report he didn’t go that far!

But most of Trump’s hardcore supporters defend him even after he tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power to a newly elected President, even after he suggested Americans should consider “terminating” our laws and Constitution so he could remain in power. Trump’s actions were treasonable and could have led to civil war and the death of our remaining, very weakened democracy.

Trump was impeached — but NOT convicted — for political crimes. He escaped conviction after his 2nd Impeachment mainly because most Republican leaders were gutless and terrified of losing support from Trump’s large voting base.

Trump may well escape conviction again, or be “convicted” of crimes yet still win re-election. The final rendering of the decision will be … in hands of the nation and its voters in 2024.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Of course.

 

[Blaster]

Actually not. The Democratic party of NYC, NY state, or the national party (DNC), are not prosecuting or part of the criminal investigation. It's a legal matter.

The Democrats support this political persecution.