To claim asylum you must be physically in the US .

[Rambunctious]

If a lib will not answer the question...why do they want the Caravan to get in....the discussion is over....

 

[ABikerSailor]

Well, if that is actually the case, you should have no problem providing a link, or telling us what post you previously posted it in to back up your claim. Link?

I'll do you one better...they have even admitted it on CNN...its in our asylum laws...look it up...hey...why do you want them to get in?....

So, no link. Got it, this is more crap you pulled out of your ass.

Individuals generally must make their claim for asylum in the first country they enter after fleeing persecution if that country is considered a “safe third country.”

United States Seeks to Reject Asylum Seekers by Designating Mexico a Safe Third Country

There are exceptions but they are very rare...like if Mexico wanted to arrest you due to a political or religious reason...then you can claim that Mexico is not a safe haven...but we in the USA have determined Mexico to be safe...so that ends it...get it dummy?....

Did you even bother to read your own link? Yes, if the country is designated ALREADY as a "safe third country", they would have to seek asylum there. But, currently, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country YET. They are still in negotiations to do so, but it hasn't passed yet.

So no, they don't have to seek asylum in Mexico yet, at least not until Trump and Mexico pass the legislation. So, what you tried to claim as "proof" is actually bullshit. Negotiations only started this year (probably because of Trump looking for a way to stop them), and haven't been completed yet.

From your link..........................................

For generations, the United States has opened its doors to individuals from around the world seeking safety and protection. The process of seeking asylum in the United States is rigorous and well-established under U.S. law. But in a cynical attempt to reject asylum seekers who present themselves at ports of entry along the U.S. southern border, the Trump administration is working towards a system that forces them to seek asylum in Mexico instead.

Individuals generally must make their claim for asylum in the first country they enter after fleeing persecution if that country is considered a “safe third country.” If a country has not been designated a safe third country, an asylum seeker may pass through it and apply for asylum in the next country.


In May 2018, representatives of the U.S. and Mexican governments began discussions about whether to recognize each other as safe third countries. If this were to happen, the two countries would enter into a legal arrangement known as a “Safe Third Country Agreement,” or STCA. Under such an agreement, each country would designate the other as a safe third country for asylum seekers.

 

[Rambunctious]

Yep, they can get in line and we'll open a single door at a port of entry. Outside that door will be a stack of asylum applications. Inside, an ICE agent backed by a platoon of the First Cavalry, fully armed. Give the ICE agent a single rubber stamp and an ink pad. The stamp should read, "Rejected".

The law also guarantees them a hearing.

You may not like it....but it's the law

Okay, put a judge in with the ICE agent, and give him the rubber stamp.

Satisfied?

Again that is not due process...

Why do you want them to get in?......

 

[Rambunctious]

Did you even bother to read your own link? Yes, if the country is designated ALREADY as a "safe third country", they would have to seek asylum there. But, currently, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country YET.

yes it is....by order of the president of mexico and president Trump two weeks ago....Mexico said they would provide them with a safe harbor and offer asylum....so why do you want them to get in?....

 

[Rambunctious]

WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET IN?......

 

[CowboyTed]

Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

So they give us their applications outside the US. If the application is approved, then they can come in and claim asylum. What's the problem?

The problem is like most Democrats, you want them sneaking in this country like they did under Ears and disappear after they make their claim never to be seen again.

Think about it . If that was the process the INS would be bombarded with millions of apps every year .

God do any of you ever put a thought into anything you say?

And that's exactly what happened under Hussein. Ever hear of Catch and Release?

Right . Cause our immigration courts are swamped. Better to spend wall money on more courts and agents .

By the way , catch and release is way cheaper than jailing everyone .

If we had a law that anybody caught here illegally faces a minimum five year federal prison sentence, nobody would come here illegally.

Asylum Seekers are not in the US illegally... Have you got that?

 

[CowboyTed]

WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET IN?......

Cause some of us have Christian Beliefs that say we should look after the vulnerable.

 

[Rambunctious]

Asylum Seekers are not in the US illegally... Have you got that?

Why do you want them to get in?....

 

[ABikerSailor]

Did you even bother to read your own link? Yes, if the country is designated ALREADY as a "safe third country", they would have to seek asylum there. But, currently, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country YET.

yes it is....by order of the president of mexico and president Trump two weeks ago....Mexico said they would provide them with a safe harbor and offer asylum....so why do you want them to get in?....

Actually, no, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country yet, and the incoming Mexican administration said they won't be either. They will allow a short term solution, but Mexico isn't going to be designated as a safe third country. And this article was written last week.

Incoming Mexico gov’t: No deal to host US asylum-seekers - The Washington Post

MEXICO CITY — Mexico’s incoming government denied a report Saturday that it plans to allow asylum-seekers to wait in the country while their claims move through U.S. immigration courts, one of several options the Trump administration has been pursuing in negotiations for months.

The deal was seen as a way to dissuade thousands of Central American migrants from seeking asylum in the U.S., a process that can take years. In effect, Mexican border towns are already acting as waiting rooms for migrants hoping to start new lives in the U.S. due to bottlenecks at the border.

“There is no agreement of any sort between the incoming Mexican government and the U.S. government,” future Interior Minister Olga Sanchez said in a statement.

Hours earlier, The Washington Post quoted her as saying that the incoming administration of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador had agreed to allow migrants to stay in Mexico as a “short-term solution” while the U.S. considered their applications for asylum. Lopez Obrador will take office on Dec. 1.

The statement shared with The Associated Press said the future government’s principal concern related to the migrants is their well-being while in Mexico.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump has won support from the Mexican president-elect’s team for a plan dubbed “Remain in Mexico.”

The newspaper also quoted Sanchez as saying: “For now, we have agreed to this policy of Remain in Mexico.”

Sanchez did not explain in the statement why The Washington Post had quoted her as saying there had been agreement.

 

[Rambunctious]

Cause some of us have Christian Beliefs that say we should look after the vulnerable.

They are offered safety and food in Mexico...They have now moved them from Tijuana to a place further south where they will be housed until they can be processed.....so you can rest easy Christian...but I don't believe you...you just want Trump to be damaged by this....in other words...your hatred for Trump is stronger than your love for your country....

 

[Rambunctious]

Actually, no, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country yet, and the incoming Mexican administration said they won't be either.

Dude...its been all over the news...it was when Mexico agreed and its fact....like I said look it up...but you still won't answer...why do you want them here?....

 

[Rambunctious]

WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GET IN?......

Cause some of us have Christian Beliefs that say we should look after the vulnerable.

 

[Rambunctious]

Did you even bother to read your own link? Yes, if the country is designated ALREADY as a "safe third country", they would have to seek asylum there. But, currently, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country YET.

yes it is....by order of the president of mexico and president Trump two weeks ago....Mexico said they would provide them with a safe harbor and offer asylum....so why do you want them to get in?....

Actually, no, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country yet, and the incoming Mexican administration said they won't be either. They will allow a short term solution, but Mexico isn't going to be designated as a safe third country. And this article was written last week.

Incoming Mexico gov’t: No deal to host US asylum-seekers - The Washington Post

MEXICO CITY — Mexico’s incoming government denied a report Saturday that it plans to allow asylum-seekers to wait in the country while their claims move through U.S. immigration courts, one of several options the Trump administration has been pursuing in negotiations for months.

The deal was seen as a way to dissuade thousands of Central American migrants from seeking asylum in the U.S., a process that can take years. In effect, Mexican border towns are already acting as waiting rooms for migrants hoping to start new lives in the U.S. due to bottlenecks at the border.

“There is no agreement of any sort between the incoming Mexican government and the U.S. government,” future Interior Minister Olga Sanchez said in a statement.

Hours earlier, The Washington Post quoted her as saying that the incoming administration of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador had agreed to allow migrants to stay in Mexico as a “short-term solution” while the U.S. considered their applications for asylum. Lopez Obrador will take office on Dec. 1.

The statement shared with The Associated Press said the future government’s principal concern related to the migrants is their well-being while in Mexico.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump has won support from the Mexican president-elect’s team for a plan dubbed “Remain in Mexico.”

The newspaper also quoted Sanchez as saying: “For now, we have agreed to this policy of Remain in Mexico.”

Sanchez did not explain in the statement why The Washington Post had quoted her as saying there had been agreement.

your hatred for Trump is stronger than your love for your country....

 

[ABikerSailor]

Actually, no, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country yet, and the incoming Mexican administration said they won't be either.

Dude...its been all over the news...it was when Mexico agreed and its fact....like I said look it up...but you still won't answer...why do you want them here?....

Mexico hasn't agreed to anything other than a short term solution. In post 349, I have the link. While Mexico has agreed to a short term solution, their incoming president has said that they will not be designated as a safe third country. They said they will help them for a little while with food and shelter, but nothing permanent as of yet.

It's kinda like when Trump went to N. Korea and signed a piece of paper that equated to nothing, and then came back and said we could all sleep good because N. Korea has been "denuclearized". No, still hasn't happened, and Un is looking at starting up his missile program again.

Sorry dude, but an agreement to a short term solution isn't the same thing as being designated as a safe third country.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Did you even bother to read your own link? Yes, if the country is designated ALREADY as a "safe third country", they would have to seek asylum there. But, currently, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country YET.

yes it is....by order of the president of mexico and president Trump two weeks ago....Mexico said they would provide them with a safe harbor and offer asylum....so why do you want them to get in?....

Actually, no, Mexico isn't designated as a safe third country yet, and the incoming Mexican administration said they won't be either. They will allow a short term solution, but Mexico isn't going to be designated as a safe third country. And this article was written last week.

Incoming Mexico gov’t: No deal to host US asylum-seekers - The Washington Post

MEXICO CITY — Mexico’s incoming government denied a report Saturday that it plans to allow asylum-seekers to wait in the country while their claims move through U.S. immigration courts, one of several options the Trump administration has been pursuing in negotiations for months.

The deal was seen as a way to dissuade thousands of Central American migrants from seeking asylum in the U.S., a process that can take years. In effect, Mexican border towns are already acting as waiting rooms for migrants hoping to start new lives in the U.S. due to bottlenecks at the border.

“There is no agreement of any sort between the incoming Mexican government and the U.S. government,” future Interior Minister Olga Sanchez said in a statement.

Hours earlier, The Washington Post quoted her as saying that the incoming administration of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador had agreed to allow migrants to stay in Mexico as a “short-term solution” while the U.S. considered their applications for asylum. Lopez Obrador will take office on Dec. 1.

The statement shared with The Associated Press said the future government’s principal concern related to the migrants is their well-being while in Mexico.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump has won support from the Mexican president-elect’s team for a plan dubbed “Remain in Mexico.”

The newspaper also quoted Sanchez as saying: “For now, we have agreed to this policy of Remain in Mexico.”

Sanchez did not explain in the statement why The Washington Post had quoted her as saying there had been agreement.

your hatred for Trump is stronger than your love for your country....

Actually, it's because I love my country (served over 20 years in the military), and don't want to see Trump fuck it up. THAT is the reason I call Trump on his bullshit.

So now you can see that Mexico ISN'T a safe third country, and no long term agreement has been worked out. So, because Mexico isn't a safe third country yet, the immigrants are legally allowed to seek asylum in the US.

Trump told you that N. Korea denuclearized, but they haven't.

Now, Trump is telling you that Mexico is a safe third country, but currently, it isn't, and according to the president of Mexico, they won't become one either.

 

[Rambunctious]

Mexico hasn't agreed to anything other than a short term solution. In post 349, I have the link. While Mexico has agreed to a short term solution, their incoming president has said that they will not be designated as a safe third country. They said they will help them for a little while with food and shelter, but nothing permanent as of yet.

He is not in office yet...and if you think he will risk Trump's wrath you are crazy...he will not leave them in the streets and they are not getting in here...

 

[Rambunctious]

Actually, it's because I love my country (served over 20 years in the military), and don't want to see Trump fuck it up. THAT is the reason I call Trump on his bullshit.

So allowing thousands of unknowns into America is your way of protecting the nation from Trump?...what kind of logic is that?...I hate Obama with a passion but I would never want to see our southern border crashed by thousands of illegals just to make Obama look bad....what has happened to you?...

 

[iceberg]

Actually, a lot of people do care what Mexico does on their southern border. They are demanding that Mexico tighten security and in effect stop the caravans which is ridiculous. Mexico has relativity open borders and they're under no obligation to change their policy just because of US immigration laws.

You know, that last sentence is very telling about Trump and what his supporters think he can do. I've seen Trump supporters on this board say they want Trump to control what goes on in other countries, and he just simply can't do that. He leads the USA, not the world.

ive seen obama suppirts redefine what "spying" is.

 

[Rambunctious]

So now you can see that Mexico ISN'T a safe third country, and no long term agreement has been worked out. So, because Mexico isn't a safe third country yet, the immigrants are legally allowed to seek asylum in the US.

Mexico is perfectly safe for these people...they even speak the same language...they can find jobs easier there than hear...they can fit in easier there than here....come on man...don't let your hatred of Trump make you crazy...

 

[Rambunctious]

Now, Trump is telling you that Mexico is a safe third country, but currently, it isn't, and according to the president of Mexico, they won't become one either

First of all its not your new Mexico papa's decision to make...if he goes against Trump to show Trump up it won't work...he will figure that out on his first day...
Mexico is safe...its as safe as East LA....maybe safer....