To impeach or not to impeach, that is the question

[M14 Shooter]

It is rather humorous really. When this whole thing first popped up, Left-wingers were bouncing off the walls about how this is it... this is the impeachment. This is the where Trump will fall. It's all over. The game is up.
.... now months later.... "to impeach or not to impeach. That is the question".
Right.

Trump did not create the hatred and insanity of the left, he exposed it.

 

[Andylusion]

It is rather humorous really. When this whole thing first popped up, Left-wingers were bouncing off the walls about how this is it... this is the impeachment. This is the where Trump will fall. It's all over. The game is up.
.... now months later.... "to impeach or not to impeach. That is the question".
Right.

Trump did not create the hatred and insanity of the left, he exposed it.

Agreed. The insane hatred was already there, and growing, before I ever heard of Trump running for office.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It is rather humorous really. When this whole thing first popped up, Left-wingers were bouncing off the walls about how this is it... this is the impeachment. This is the where Trump will fall. It's all over. The game is up.
.... now months later.... "to impeach or not to impeach. That is the question".
Right.

Trump did not create the hatred and insanity of the left, he exposed it.

Agreed. The insane hatred was already there, and growing, before I ever heard of Trump running for office.

Personally, I hope Trump is impeached, then removed, then wins in 2020.

 

[Faun]

It is rather humorous really. When this whole thing first popped up, Left-wingers were bouncing off the walls about how this is it... this is the impeachment. This is the where Trump will fall. It's all over. The game is up.
.... now months later.... "to impeach or not to impeach. That is the question".
Right.

Trump did not create the hatred and insanity of the left, he exposed it.

Agreed. The insane hatred was already there, and growing, before I ever heard of Trump running for office.

Personally, I hope Trump is impeached, then removed, then wins in 2020.

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

 

[JoeMoma]

It is rather humorous really. When this whole thing first popped up, Left-wingers were bouncing off the walls about how this is it... this is the impeachment. This is the where Trump will fall. It's all over. The game is up.
.... now months later.... "to impeach or not to impeach. That is the question".
Right.

Trump did not create the hatred and insanity of the left, he exposed it.

Agreed. The insane hatred was already there, and growing, before I ever heard of Trump running for office.

Personally, I hope Trump is impeached, then removed, then wins in 2020.

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

 

[Faun]

It is rather humorous really. When this whole thing first popped up, Left-wingers were bouncing off the walls about how this is it... this is the impeachment. This is the where Trump will fall. It's all over. The game is up.
.... now months later.... "to impeach or not to impeach. That is the question".
Right.

Trump did not create the hatred and insanity of the left, he exposed it.

Agreed. The insane hatred was already there, and growing, before I ever heard of Trump running for office.

Personally, I hope Trump is impeached, then removed, then wins in 2020.

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

Holyfuckingshit!

Have you cult freaks ever even heard of the U.S. Constitution??

 

[JoeMoma]

Trump did not create the hatred and insanity of the left, he exposed it.

Agreed. The insane hatred was already there, and growing, before I ever heard of Trump running for office.

Personally, I hope Trump is impeached, then removed, then wins in 2020.

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

Holyfuckingshit!

Have you cult freaks ever even heard of the U.S. Constitution??

Yes!
Where in the constitution does it say that a president removed from office cannot be reelected!

 

[MAGAman]

What the Dim Dems and Loony Libs don't realize is you can't impeach a president JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE HIM. President Trump has committed NO impeachable offenses. If he had, senile old bat Pelosi would have called for a vote by now.

Sure they can.

 

[JoeMoma]

Agreed. The insane hatred was already there, and growing, before I ever heard of Trump running for office.

Personally, I hope Trump is impeached, then removed, then wins in 2020.

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

Holyfuckingshit!

Have you cult freaks ever even heard of the U.S. Constitution??

Yes!
Where in the constitution does it say that a president removed from office cannot be reelected!

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

There are some who argue that, if the circumstances and evidence warrants it, it is the Constitutional duty of the House to impeach the President.

That is true. If the situation calls for it, it is the Constitutional duty of the House of Representatives to impeach the President. However, according to our Constitution, Congress has many Constitutional duties and sometimes they conflict with one another.

That is the case here. The ultimate purpose of impeaching the President is his removal from office. Impeachment is merely an indictment against the President. The trial to determine his removal from office takes place in the Senate with the chief justice presiding.

Therein lies the problem. As matters stand now, the 67 votes needed to remove Trump from office simply won't happen.

Indeed, the very opposite is likely to happen. When the Senate exonerates Trump, the sympathy vote could easily propel Trump toward another four years in office.

In terms of the purpose of impeachment, the very opposite result could happen, and it is extremely likely, as matters stand now, that Trump would not be removed from office.

Congress has another Constitutional duty. Through its oversight responsibilities, Congress has the Constitutional duty to keep Americans informed of the very bad judgments and the false statements of a very bad President to enable Americans to remove the very bad President from office in the next election.

In the opinion of many, including the leadership in the House, the Constitutional duty to keep Americans informed has a higher calling than the Constitutional duty to impeach. Why? Because the former will achieve the desired result while the latter is likely to cause unwelcome, unintended consequences.

With all the evidence that has been presented imleaimpeac is now an inevitably.

Good luck. Russia collusion? Where did that go. Shitt took a shit. Only dim morons would believe anything that he represents.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

Is Senator Lindsey Graham stupid? Does Graham think the American people are stupid?

I ask these questions because, in his presentation today, he didn't know the difference between an impeachment inquiry and articles of impeachment.

He said the full House voted down an impeachment inquiry in July. Then he put up a poster to proves his point. The poster showed clearly that the full House voted down Al Green's Articles of Impeachment of Trump. That has happened a few times in the House. Green is premature, to say the least.

Urging that the full House vote on an impeachment inquiry, he proudly displayed the fact that was done in the case of Bill Clinton. He even had another poster to prove it. Problem is, his poster showed the vote on the Articles of Impeachment of Clinton, not an impeachment inquiry.

Then Graham argued that Trump is being denied his rights of due process, failing to mention 47 Republicans and their staffs are in those closed door meetings defending Trump all they want. Graham failed to mention that it is Trump stonewalling the House, not the other way around. He also failed to mention that what the House is doing right now is the investigation stage. To impeach a President, evidence has to be gathered. Graham failed to mention that Ken Starr, as the independent prosecutor, took five years of secret meetings to gather evidence to impeach Clinton. We no longer have an independent prosecutor. Graham didn't mention that, either. The House has to do the investigating.

Then to prove his point that Trump was denied due process, Graham came up with still another poster. Here it is:

Please note the poster says, "All the rights given to Clinton DURING IMPEACHMENT."

Not during the impeachment inquiry, the investigative stage. Trump will have every one of those rights when the Articles of Impeachment are debated and in his Senate trial IF he is impeached.

Trump is going down and he is going to take the Republicans with him. Graham's presentation was childlike in its performance. It as as if he was speaking to the intellectually challenged. Maybe he was.

This presentation along with Republicans storming the secure room in the capitol yesterday shows that they are making complete fools of themselves. Graham bragged he had 41 Republicans, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who had approved his resolution.

Just the idea that Republicans in the Senate wish to pass a resolution that censures the House of Representatives gives some idea how chaotic the Trump government is.

Senator Graham is not stupid. But he is very afraid. He should be. Americans will have their say about all this, and he may become one of the casualties.

What the Dim Dems and Loony Libs don't realize is you can't impeach a president JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE HIM. President Trump has committed NO impeachable offenses. If he had, senile old bat Pelosi would have called for a vote by now.

If we were imoeachiim because we didn't like him he wouldn't have lasted a week.

Who’s we?


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[Butch_Coolidge]

This is an impeachment in search of a crime.

Like they said, impeach him now and we'll fill in the blanks later.

Ain't how it works.

It's quite ridiculous, isn't it? The Dim Dems should be thinking about and working on what platforms they can run on for 2020 that actually make sense to American voters. But no, they're wasting their time on ANOTHER witch hunt. Pitiful AND pathetic.

Platforms are to raise taxes, and accomplish nothing.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

"Trump is going down and he is going to take Republicans with him?" How much money would you be willing to bet on that? Not that I want to bet you, I'm just trying to gauge your level of commitment to such a bold claim.

Another expert huh?



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[Faun]

Agreed. The insane hatred was already there, and growing, before I ever heard of Trump running for office.

Personally, I hope Trump is impeached, then removed, then wins in 2020.

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

Holyfuckingshit!

Have you cult freaks ever even heard of the U.S. Constitution??

Yes!
Where in the constitution does it say that a president removed from office cannot be reelected!

Couldn't you just look this up yourself rather than live up to the enduring saying, "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?"

Article I, Section 3

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.​

 

[Faun]

Personally, I hope Trump is impeached, then removed, then wins in 2020.

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

Holyfuckingshit!

Have you cult freaks ever even heard of the U.S. Constitution??

Yes!
Where in the constitution does it say that a president removed from office cannot be reelected!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Well this post of yours was rather ill-timed.

 

[JoeMoma]

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

Holyfuckingshit!

Have you cult freaks ever even heard of the U.S. Constitution??

Yes!
Where in the constitution does it say that a president removed from office cannot be reelected!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Well this post of yours was rather ill-timed.

Congratulations!

 

[JoeMoma]

^^^ Sheer ignorance on display.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck, if Trump is impeached and removed from office, how can he run again...?

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

Holyfuckingshit!

Have you cult freaks ever even heard of the U.S. Constitution??

Yes!
Where in the constitution does it say that a president removed from office cannot be reelected!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Well this post of yours was rather ill-timed.

You may want to note that not all that are removed from office are disqualified from holding future office. And additional vote of the senate has to take place for disqualification. So it is possible that Trump can be removed from office and win reelection.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Instead of trying to make it about Biden in a desperate attempt to take the heat of T-Rump, you might want to try to digest todays headlines. Oh look! Here is one:
House Releases Transcripts Of Kurt Volker, Gordon Sondland Impeachment Testimony | HuffPost
SONDLAND ADMITS: QUID PRO QUO!
He is screwed. Even if Biden did something wrong-which he did not by all accounts-, it will not save Trumps fat ass from this.

In his new testimony, Mr. Sondland said he believed that withholding the aid was “ill-advised,” although he did not know “when, why or by whom the aid was suspended.”

“I presumed that the aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anticorruption statement,” Mr. Sondland said.
Sondland Updates Impeachment Testimony, Describing Ukraine Quid Pro Quo

Give me a fucking break!

I'm sorry you do not like the the fact the testimony you cited is yet another nothingburger, but the fact remains.

You can believe whatever delusional crap you want. It won't change anything.

^^^^
Never has there been, and never will there be, a better example of irony

Irony? Do you even understand what that means? Where is the irony?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Is there any law that prevents it? I don't think so.

Holyfuckingshit!

Have you cult freaks ever even heard of the U.S. Constitution??

Yes!
Where in the constitution does it say that a president removed from office cannot be reelected!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Well this post of yours was rather ill-timed.

You may want to note that not all that are removed from office are disqualified from holding future office. And additional vote of the senate has to take place for disqualification. So it is possible that Trump can be removed from office and win reelection.

That would truly signal the absolute death of our democracy and sanity

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

There are some who argue that, if the circumstances and evidence warrants it, it is the Constitutional duty of the House to impeach the President.

That is true. If the situation calls for it, it is the Constitutional duty of the House of Representatives to impeach the President. However, according to our Constitution, Congress has many Constitutional duties and sometimes they conflict with one another.

That is the case here. The ultimate purpose of impeaching the President is his removal from office. Impeachment is merely an indictment against the President. The trial to determine his removal from office takes place in the Senate with the chief justice presiding.

Therein lies the problem. As matters stand now, the 67 votes needed to remove Trump from office simply won't happen.

Indeed, the very opposite is likely to happen. When the Senate exonerates Trump, the sympathy vote could easily propel Trump toward another four years in office.

In terms of the purpose of impeachment, the very opposite result could happen, and it is extremely likely, as matters stand now, that Trump would not be removed from office.

Congress has another Constitutional duty. Through its oversight responsibilities, Congress has the Constitutional duty to keep Americans informed of the very bad judgments and the false statements of a very bad President to enable Americans to remove the very bad President from office in the next election.

In the opinion of many, including the leadership in the House, the Constitutional duty to keep Americans informed has a higher calling than the Constitutional duty to impeach. Why? Because the former will achieve the desired result while the latter is likely to cause unwelcome, unintended consequences.

With all the evidence that has been presented imleaimpeac is now an inevitably.

Good luck. Russia collusion? Where did that go. Shitt took a shit. Only dim morons would believe anything that he represents.


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WE don't need Russian collusion anymore . We have Ukraine and it is in the bag