To Jail Or Not To Jail, That Is The Question

Listen partisan, get rid of your bias and hatred of Biden.

I don't hate him. I think his policies suck donkey dick, and his diminished capacity scares the fuck out of me. No one with his level of cognitive decline should hold the most important and the most stressful job in the world.
You pay lip service to integrity, for if you had a smidgeon of integrity, you wouldn't accuse a man of something that requires clinical expertise and medical knowledge. He got through SOTU with flying colors. I was a caregiver many years ago, for the elderly, many of whom had dementia, and my experience tells me that this man only has what is normal for a man of his age to have. Some are better, some are slightly worse, but Trump is far worse than Biden. Nothing but stupid evacuates the lips of Trump. You're not paying attejntion.


I am near his age, and have similar speech faults, and I do not have dementia.
Good for you, when you start ranting about relatives being eaten by cannibals, we'll be certain to let you know.
 
Which media was it that was deemed liars to the tune of a $787 million settlement? Hint: it wasn't a liberal media.


No, the name of the game is to take a criminal pervert fraudster off the street.
LOL Like the goal of you and you fellow partisan fraudsters is anything but keeping him from running again.
 
I don't hate him. I think his policies suck donkey dick, and his diminished capacity scares the fuck out of me. No one with his level of cognitive decline should hold the most important and the most stressful job in the world.

Good for you, when you start ranting about relatives being eaten by cannibals, we'll be certain to let you know.

Only partisan hatred leads you to such a conclusion on scant evidence.

You haven't been paying attention to Trump. He's unhinged. He's a total moron. Did you hear his Gettysburg speech? Every time he opens his mouth something stupid comes out.
 
Not an argument. Fail.
LOL Speaking on an integrity test, here's one for you Rumpy. In the entire history of our country, 250 years, name a single person that has faced four simultaneous criminal prosecutions in four different jurisdictions on four different sets of charges. Just one, other than your cult's partisan witch hunt against Trump
 
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LOL Speaking on an integrity test, here's one for you Rumpy. In the entire history of our country, 250 years name a single person that has faced four simultaneous criminal prosecutions in four different jurisdictions on four different sets of charges. Just one, other than your cult's partisan witch hunt against Trump
A normal adult would understand that this is a comment on Trump.
 
LOL Speaking on an integrity test, here's one for you Rumpy. In the entire history of our country, 250 years, name a single person that has faced four simultaneous criminal prosecutions in four different jurisdictions on four different sets of charges. Just one, other than your cult's partisan witch hunt against Trump

Your question has a flawed premise.

Let's do a flip side of your question, which will reveal that flaw:

Name one president in 250 years whose criminal conduct would result in 4 indictments, 88 felony counts, in four different jurisdictions?

There are none, and that, in direct opposition to what you are implying, is the real reason. You are trying to shift the blame to Democrats, but the blame belongs squarely on Trump's shoulders, and none of other.

He was the one who incited an insurrection, an insurrection that was upheld by several state judges and 9 justices of the Supreme Court (none of the judges or justices contested the lower court's finding of fact, that Trump incited, and/or, aided and gave comfort to, insurrection to the constitution of the United States), and his acts leading for months up to and including 1/6, led to two indictments.

He was the one whose aggravated circumstances surrounding the documents case, when all he has to do to not have been indicted was merely to cooperate fully with the government, as did Reagan, Pence, and Biden, and he wouldn't not have been charged. But he conspired to obstruct the government's efforts to retrieve valuable NDI documents, including at least on nuclear document (that one, alone, will get you 5 years), noting that the charge of espionage does not depend on any classification regime (making all claims of 'classification' moot).

Trump was the one who fornicated with a playboy playmate while his newly wed wife was pregnant, then fornicated with a pornstar four months after she gave birth, then several years later, when he became a candidate for US President, conspired with Cohen & Pecker to cover up the sexual acts given that it might hurt his chances to become president, whereupon he and Cohen concocted the scheme that Cohen would take out a HELOC loan on his property, pay Stormy $130k hush money, get her to sign and NDA, and Nat Enquirer President Pecker would pay McDougal $250k to kill her story (she thought it was going to be published), and when Trump won the presidency, he reimbursed Cohen via 8 checks for $35 grand each, reported it falsely as a 'legal expense' (leading to the 8 felony counts of falsifying biz records, elevated to felonies because of the tie in to the cover up) but failed to mention that it was, in essence, and in kind campaign donation, violated federal wire transfer laws, violated election campaign laws (or whatever the actual felonies were), which was never prosecuted (Because Bill Barr, at Trump's instruction, pressured the the DA and/or the SDNY not to prosecute--[I forget which] ), whereupon, when Bragg became DA of NY, investigated the case and a staff attorney convinced him that they had the evidence to elevate the 8 misdemeanor counts to felonies because of the cover up.

No prior president did these things.

You see, Rawley, the flaw in your premise is that although you are suggesting that there is something wrong with Democrats (noting that Garland is a centrist and Smith is an independent, destroying your argument right there), because there never has been, in 250 years, a president whose criminal conduct would result is so many indictments.
 
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Your question has a flawed premise.
Nothing flawed about the premise at all Rumpy. 250 years of our country, 550 million Americans. You cannot name a single single person that has faced four simultaneous criminal prosecutions in four different jurisdictions on four different sets of charges.
Let's do a flip side of your question, which will reveal that flaw:

Name one president in 250 years whose criminal conduct would result in 4 indictments, 88 felony counts, in four different jurisdictions?

There are none, and that, in direct opposition to what you are implying, is the real reason. You are trying to shift the blame to Democrats, but the blame belongs squarely on Trump's shoulders, and none of other.

He was the one who incited an insurrection, an insurrection that was upheld by several state judges and 9 justices of the Supreme Court (none of the judges or justices contested the lower court's finding of fact, that Trump incited, and/or, aided and gave comfort to, insurrection to the constitution of the United States), and his acts leading for months up to and including 1/6, led to two indictments.

He was the one whose aggravated circumstances surrounding the documents case, when all he has to do to not have been indicted was merely to cooperate fully with the government, as did Reagan, Pence, and Biden, and he wouldn't not have been charged. But he conspired to obstruct the government's efforts to retrieve valuable NDI documents, including at least on nuclear document (that one, alone, will get you 5 years), noting that the charge of espionage does not depend on any classification regime (making all claims of 'classification' moot).

Trump was the one who fornicated with a playboy playmate while his newly wed wife was pregnant, then fornicated with a pornstar four months after she gave birth, then several years later, when he became a candidate for US President, conspired with Cohen & Pecker to cover up the sexual acts given that it might hurt his chances to become president, whereupon he and Cohen concocted the scheme that Cohen would take out a HELOC loan on his property, pay Stormy $130k hush money, get her to sign and NDA, and Nat Enquirer President Pecker would pay McDougal $250k to kill her story (she thought it was going to be published), and when Trump won the presidency, he reimbursed Cohen via 8 checks for $35 grand each, reported it falsely as a 'legal expense' (leading to the 8 felony counts of falsifying biz records, elevated to felonies because of the tie in to the cover up) but failed to mention that it was, in essence, and in kind campaign donation, violated federal wire transfer laws, violated election campaign laws (or whatever the actual felonies were), which was never prosecuted (Because Bill Barr, at Trump's instruction, pressured the the DA and/or the SDNY not to prosecute--[I forget which] ), whereupon, when Bragg became DA of NY, investigated the case and a staff attorney convinced him that they had the evidence to elevate the 8 misdemeanor counts to felonies because of the cover up.

No prior president did these things.

You see, Rawley, the flaw in your premise is that although you are suggesting that there is something wrong with Democrats (noting that Garland is a centrist and Smith is an independent, destroying your argument right there), because there never has been, in 250 years, a president whose criminal conduct would result is so many indictments.
Your premise is that he's facing four simultaneous criminal prosecutions in four different jurisdictions on four different sets of charges, because he was President.

Your hateful obsession with the former President shines through every one of your posts.
 
Which media was it that was deemed liars to the tune of a $787 million settlement? Hint: it wasn't a liberal media.


No, the name of the game is to take a criminal pervert fraudster off the street.
There was no fraud. That will be the ruling on appeal.

No victim … no crime.

If there was a crime investors would not be pulling out of New York.




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One prominent Palm Beach real estate broker, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told The Post, “It’s utterly delusional to think that property is only worth $18 million.”

The insider added, “If that property were on the market today, I would list it at around $300 million, minimum … at least. He also has the separate golf course minutes away.”


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There are also nearby comps.

To put it in perspective, a 2-acre wooded lot at 1980 S. Ocean Blvd., just 5 minutes from Mar-a-Lago, is currently listed for $150 million. Mar-a-Lago, situated at 1100 S. Ocean Blvd., dwarfs this lot tenfold and operates as a commercial business with around 500 members as part of the golf club.

Also nearby: a 2.3-acre plot of land at 1063/1071 N. Ocean Blvd., on the market for a sky-high $200 million.

Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate boasts a sprawling 20 acres.

Forbes had appraised the property, which is made up of 128 rooms, at approximately $160 million in 2018 following extensive renovations and its exclusive Palm Beach location on Billionaires’ Row. The property includes a 20,000-square-foot ballroom, five clay tennis courts and a sprawling waterfront pool.

And in the five years since, Palm Beach properties have only increased in value.
 
Contrived, bad faith posting. When you post like this, you embarrass yourself.

Let's demonstrate:

Pick a felony charge and argue why Trump is not guilty of it.

See you in NEVER. You Trumpers are long on wind, but short on arguments.

This demonstration makes it crystal clear who has been deceived and brainwashed.

Spoiler alert: it's you.
The Trump fraud case is one example. There is no crime if there is no victim.

Plus the judge argued the Mar-a-Lago was worth only an appraised 18 million dollars.


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To put it in perspective, a 2-acre wooded lot at 1980 S. Ocean Blvd., just 5 minutes from Mar-a-Lago, is currently listed for $150 million. Mar-a-Lago, situated at 1100 S. Ocean Blvd., dwarfs this lot tenfold and operates as a commercial business with around 500 members as part of the golf club.

Also nearby: a 2.3-acre plot of land at 1063/1071 N. Ocean Blvd., on the market for a sky-high $200 million.

Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate boasts a sprawling 20 acres.
 
LOL Speaking on an integrity test, here's one for you Rumpy. In the entire history of our country, 250 years, name a single person that has faced four simultaneous criminal prosecutions in four different jurisdictions on four different sets of charges. Just one, other than your cult's partisan witch hunt against Trump
Why don't you list them?
 
Why don't you list them?
Zero until your cult began their lawfare Jihad against Trump. Not a single single person in 250 years of our country, 550 million Americans, has faced four simultaneous criminal prosecutions in four different jurisdictions on four different sets of charges
 
I found this from CNN, which I thought was very funny. CNN analyst Mark Preston and panel talked about civil unrest around the country if Trump were to be jailed, even for a short time, due to violating a gag order in the hush money case.

“If that were to happen, first of all, I think you would probably see civil unrest across the country, certainly in some cities. That’s one,” he said, highlighted by Mediaite. “And two, politically, if I’m the Biden campaign, I don’t want to necessarily see him in jail, because that’s just going to get people more inflamed and more fired up.”

And yet they are all too stupid to see what would happen if they found Trump criminally guilty and sentenced him to jail in this hush money case. Don't they think the same thing or worse would happen then, motivating his supporters even more to go out and vote for Trump? These guys are just so damned stupid.

Trump will be fined increasingly with each violation.
 
Ummmmm, if everyone else has a first amendment right to speak then why shouldn't Trump?
Umm…
Because he’s under orders from the court to not?

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They are inherently unfair. You let everyone else say what they want except for the accused.
No.
The prosecution has just as much right to a fair trial as the defendant. You would be livid if the prosecution were making statements that gave them some advantage.
 
It all depends on the circumstances, doesn't it. And there has never been the circumstance of a political party bringing criminal charges against a former President of the United States, in the middle of an election, when he's the opposing party's presumptive nominee.
Umm…
Political parties have no authority or ability to bring criminal charges on anyone. :cuckoo:
 
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LOL How quaint a thought. Just one big old coincidence that every single prosecutor that brought these unprecedented and ridiculous charges against Trump is a Democrat
Your fraught imaginings don’t change what I posted.
 

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