To the "Anti-vaxxers"

[Hutch Starskey]

How do you explain them not getting it in the 'initial' outbreak?

Uff…
This is Delta.

 

[TNHarley]

No. I’m thinking of the respiratory tract where they actually look for the virus when testing.
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Do you have a link?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

When did the left become so interested in my health? LOLOL

Umm…Public health means the entire public.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

I am putting this in politics instead of healthcare... because it is about the political side of all this.

I am as conservative as they come. Leftism is a cancer among us in many ways.
One, however, is not the vaccine.
Get vaccinated. We need to cut this thing down before a truly bad variant comes out. Delta is not it. It is not nearly as bad as bad as the original, but it can become worse as it will, inevitably morph itself.
As i have stated here a number of times my son is a Respiratory Specialist, and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist. Both at major hospitals.
At the hospital my daughter works at, there are 44 Covid patients. 6 are in ICU. 2 are likely to die.
Wanna know the demographics?
All but two are minorities.
Only one is vaccinated.

Let that sink in. It is the same all over. Right now Covid is a sickness, primarily for the unvaccinated. Yes you can spout off some anecdotal situations that show some vaccinated people getting sick and even dying. But folks, the numbers are simply what the numbers are. And the numbers are the sick enough to be hospitalized - are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

Getting vaccinated is not "giving in". It doesn't make you less conservative. It is not a "win" for the other side.
It is Goddamn common sense in order to stop a very possible bad ass variant from developing that will screw us over worse than 2020.

EXCELLENT! Thank you.
Get the vaccine and protect the children, too!

Aug 4, 2021, 02:35pm EDT

Covid Cases Among Children Jumped 84% Last Week—Here Are The States Where Kid Hospitalizations Are Increasing​

Covid Cases Among Children Jumped 84% Last Week—Here Are The States Where Kid Hospitalizations Are Increasing

Child hospitalizations have risen in at least eight states, either state-wide or in major pediatric facilities.

www.forbes.com

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Florida currently leads the nation in kids hospitalized for Covid-19, with 32 pediatric hospitalizations per day between July 24 and 30 (a rate of 0.76 children hospitalized per 100,000 residents), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data shared with The Tampa Bay-Times shows.

However, officials from major childrens’ hospitals in Arkansas, Indiana, Louisiana, Missouri, South Carolina and Texas say their facilities are quickly filling with sick children too, either from Covid-19 too or the mix of the two surging respiratory infections.

Alabama, which reported a new record of 34 children hospitalized amid the Covid-19 pandemic last week, now has 38 children hospitalized, according to the Associated Press. """"

 

[Hutch Starskey]

y'all change your defense of it with the change in the hour don't you?

No. Not at all. That has always been the case. At least for those who actually understand.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Well… except for all of the physical samples and digitally archived data and video of course.

as supplied by a lying complicit media in the pocket of the democrat machine.

 

[schmidlap]

I am putting this in politics instead of healthcare... because it is about the political side of all this.

The politicians who spouted ideological dogma rather than respect medical science are begrudgingly coming around based upon the irrefutable empirical data.

Scalese, Ivy, DeSantis, Graham, Hutchinson, Pence, etc., etc., etc. are hurling themselves onto the Biden vaccination bandwagon. Denial of the reality was unsustainable.

Republican Politician Dies of COVID Complications Days After Mocking Virus
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A Texas councilman known for downplaying the COVID-19 pandemic and disparaging the efficacy of vaccines died of the virus on Wednesday.​

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H. Scott Apley, a Dickinson City Council member in Galveston County, Texas... tested positive for COVID-19, and was sedated and placed on a ventilator. His wife, Melissa Apley, and their infant son also tested positive but have not been hospitalized.​

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Two days before he was hospitalized, Apley shared a Facebook post suggesting that COVID-19 vaccines don't work. It was just the most recent social media post in what seemed like regular criticism of the pandemic and vaccines.​

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In April, Apley told a doctor sharing the news that the Pfizer vaccine is "efficacious for at least 6 months" on Twitter that they were "an absolute enemy of a free people."​

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He had also previously posted to express his desire to participate in a "mask burning" party.​

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[Republican Politician Dies of COVID Complications Days After Mocking Virus]​

 

[Hutch Starskey]

That is a LIE.

You are spreading misinformation.

There are just as many vaxxed people sick in the hospitals as unvaxxed.

There isn’t. Not anywhere.

 

[OldFlame]

Uff…
This is Delta.

So what? Why don't you try giving a scientific explanation as to why 'delta' is infecting them, but the original covid did not?

And while you're at it, answer the other questions I asked that you seemed in total shock over.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you have a link?

A link to what?
I gave you the graphic depicting where they swab to find covid during testing? How do you not know this by now?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So what? Why don't you try giving a scientific explanation as to why 'delta' is infecting them, but the original covid did not?

And while you're at it, answer the other questions I asked that you seemed in total shock over.

Delta is a variant. A mutation. It behaves differently because it is different. Pretty basic biology. Your questions seem especially ignorant.

 

[TNHarley]

A link to what?
I gave you the graphic depicting where they swab to find covid during testing? How do you not know this by now?

Im talking about having sinuses puts me in a greater risk category like you claimed.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Im talking about having sinuses puts me in a greater risk category like you claimed.

Umm… because your sinus tissue is especially vulnerable to infection and inflammation. Hence your chronic problems. Is that really difficult to think through?

 

[TNHarley]

Umm… because your sinus tissue is especially vulnerable to infection and inflammation. Hence your chronic problems. Is that really difficult to think through?

So no link. Thanks.

 

[22lcidw]

There isn’t. Not anywhere.

Tens of millions of people will be like Ann Frank in your nazi world when completed.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So no link. Thanks.

You’re free to investigate as you wish. Please do as you have problems with regular everyday pathogens and irritants causing you chronic problems. The nasopharyngeal tissues is where covid enters the body, settles and reproduces.
I would also encourage a fresh mask every outing.

 

[schmidlap]

The delta variant is 'ripping through the unvaccinated' ​

and crowding hospitals in Florida, Texas​

A fourth wave of COVID-19 is threatening to overwhelm U.S. hospitals in regions where large swaths of unvaccinated people provide little resistance to the highly contagious delta variant. ​

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Nowhere is the strain more apparent than Florida, which reached a new peak Tuesday ​

of 11,515 people hospitalized with COVID-19, according to data from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.​

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Hospitals in Jacksonville and Orlando last week crashed through their pandemic peaks, and hospitals in Miami-Dade County are at or approaching record coronavirus hospitalizations this week...​

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"The delta variant is ripping through the unvaccinated," Mayhew said.​

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... More than 90% of COVID-19 patients at AdventHealth's hospitals are unvaccinated, and the small number of vaccinated patients with COVID-19 typically have underlying conditions such as cancer or autoimmune disease, the hospital said...​

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Like in Florida, Texas hospital beds are being filled with unvaccinated COVID-19 patients, said Angela G. Clendenin, a professor at Texas A&M School of Public Health. ​

[The delta variant is 'ripping through the unvaccinated' and crowding hospitals in Florida, Texas]
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[TNHarley]

You’re free to investigate as you wish. Please do as you have problems with regular everyday pathogens and irritants causing you chronic problems. The nasopharyngeal tissues is where covid enters the body, settles and reproduces.
I would also encourage a fresh mask every outing.

I have. Even went and looked for new information after you said that, and i couldnt find anything on sinuses putting me at "great risk"

 

[bendog]

Im not sticking experimental technology(that isnt even approved by the FDA) into my body.
I have taken every vaccine I was supposed to my entire laugh... but this wont be one of them.
Nor while i be shamed for not doing it.

That is the problem. Even if others don't see your concerns as valid, doesn't your right to control your own body have to be respected. You're not basing your objection on patently false and intentionally misleading bullshit like how "vaccinated people can spread the virus." You simply have concerns about the safety. It's similar to anit-vaccers, except things like the MMR vaccine have been tested over time. I don't see that it's possible to tell you "your fears are unsupportable and simple paranoia"

But the thing is the vaccine does decrease the chance of getting covid and passing it on to others, and it decreases the chances of a covid infection being so serious at to land one in an ICU, thereby taking up valuable money in healthcare and potentially depriving another person of an ICU bed, which is what public health officials really worry about.

So how are your concerns balanced with the fact that not getting vaccinated does put other people in more danger? jmo, but there should be mandates for those who work with patients, law enforcement and other emergency responders, the military .... and even in public accomodations like uber and groceries.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Tens of millions of people will be like Ann Frank in your nazi world when completed.

Thanks