To the "Anti-vaxxers"

[Hutch Starskey]

I have. Even went and looked for new information after you said that, and i couldnt find anything on sinuses putting me at "great risk"

I said greater risk. Logic isn’t everyone’s strong suit.

 

[KoalaCorp]

Just as you are free NOT to take vaccine, the rest of us should be free NOT to subsidize YOUR Hospital stay!
Why should the rest of us pay for YOUR stupidity?
Don't take the vaccine? Fine, but DON'T expect govt or anyone else to pay for your hospital stay...

 

[DrLove]

I am putting this in politics instead of healthcare... because it is about the political side of all this.

I am as conservative as they come. Leftism is a cancer among us in many ways.
One, however, is not the vaccine.
Get vaccinated. We need to cut this thing down before a truly bad variant comes out. Delta is not it. It is not nearly as bad as bad as the original, but it can become worse as it will, inevitably morph itself.
As i have stated here a number of times my son is a Respiratory Specialist, and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist. Both at major hospitals.
At the hospital my daughter works at, there are 44 Covid patients. 6 are in ICU. 2 are likely to die.
Wanna know the demographics?
All but two are minorities.
Only one is vaccinated.

Let that sink in. It is the same all over. Right now Covid is a sickness, primarily for the unvaccinated. Yes you can spout off some anecdotal situations that show some vaccinated people getting sick and even dying. But folks, the numbers are simply what the numbers are. And the numbers are the sick enough to be hospitalized - are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

Getting vaccinated is not "giving in". It doesn't make you less conservative. It is not a "win" for the other side.
It is Goddamn common sense in order to stop a very possible bad ass variant from developing that will screw us over worse than 2020.

The ONLY thing I disagree with here is your contention that Delta isn't as bad as the original. It's at least ten times more transmissible, it's making people even sicker and it's affecting a far younger group including children. In Florida currently there are almost 200 little kids in the ICU.

 

[kaz]

These people are truly mentally ill.

They're fascists

 

[TNHarley]

I said greater risk. Logic isn’t everyone’s strong suit.

Yet, there is nothing to back it up.
Lying is some peoples strong suit

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Fauci and every actual world expert has called the vaccine a tool in fighting the virus not a magic silver bullet...

We are going to see some countries in Europe hit very high compliance (Ireland are aiming at possibly 95% of over 12 year olds at the moment... I thought we should have gone to one of those countries first to show that a vaccine and a few sensible restrictions could fight this virus...

These are the countries to watch... Vermont has low 80% among the adult population at the moment....

A lot of vaxxnuts are under the impression that the vaccine could eradicate the virus.

 

[Calypso Jones]

How to win friends and influence people. LOLOL

West Lafayette Mayor calls the unvaccinated 'a**holes'

TIPPECANOE COUNTY, Ind. (WLFI) -- West Lafayette Mayor John Dennis had some strong words for those not vaccinated against COVID-19.

www.wlfi.com

 

[Calypso Jones]

Will taking the untested covid vaxx shut up the tyrannical left? Highly doubtful. Then there will be the booster this winter and then the boosters next year and then after that when everyone is fatigued with the covid hysteria it will be something else.

Gettin' us ready for the mark of the beast...that be...worldwide democrat tyranny...to rid the world of any belief except that the state is god.

 

[MadChemist]

Too many are being "informed" by Facebook and Youtube nutjobs and people like you

Yes, MIT doesn't know how to cull that out.

Your delusional bias shines through like it usually does.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

Okey let me give you a serious response.

I’m not against anyone getting the vaccine. If you want it, get it. I think it’s even wise for elderly to get it.

However, here is my take on forcing the entire country to get it. This is an experimental mRNA type vaccine, of which there are NO long term studies in humans done. Do you think it is wise for an entire nation to be inoculated with an experimental vaccine which we have no idea what the long term repercussions will be?

What if it turns out in a few years whose who are vaccinated have their immune systems compromised? Or if they have heart issues? Or blood clot issues? What happens if a big percentage of them die from these issues? How will our country survive if 90% of the population is inoculated with the same vaccine that ends up killing most of them? It may be a “conspiracy theory” to think of these things, but these theories certainly cannot be debunked by scientific studies because none have been done.

I don’t know about you, but I think that’s a huge gamble, to gamble the entire future of this nation on one experimental vaccine. So pardon me if I think it’s irresponsible to push it onto 90%+ of the population. I think it would be smarter to have different types of vaccines, and even a portion of unvaccinated. Personally I was holding out for the J&J vaccine, but then the early reports were even worse than the mRNA ones and it was pulled, so I scratched that one off the list.

I am not “anti-vax”. Trust me, I would take a safe and effective vaccine against that CCP/Fauci spawned poison from Wuhan. I don’t want to catch that shit. But at this point I would rather get the virus and build up natural immunity to the future variants. Scientific studies so far have proven that natural immunity is more effective than vaccines.

I’m not “anti-science”. I read scientific papers on the virus and the vaccines. I watch videos about them, I try to educate myself in every way on the subject. Whenever I talk to my relatives about it, they are all clueless on the actual science, and they are all Vaxxed. Science is about doubting. Science is questioning. Science is about observation and testing. That’s all we are doing, is asking questions. What are the long term effects? No one has an answer. So I will wait until the science shows us the answers, then I will get vaccinated.

Don't you idiots ever do any independent research?
Hawk, you are wrong across the board.

"
Nucleic acid therapeutics have emerged as promising alternatives to conventional vaccine approaches. The first report of the successful use of in vitro transcribed (IVT) mRNA in animals was published in 1990, when reporter gene mRNAs were injected into mice and protein production was detected5. A subsequent study in 1992 demonstrated that administration of vasopressin-encoding mRNA in the hypothalamus could elicit a physiological response in rats6. However, these early promising results did not lead to substantial investment in developing mRNA therapeutics, largely owing to concerns associated with mRNA instability, high innate immunogenicity and inefficient in vivo delivery. Instead, the field pursued DNA-based and protein-based therapeutic approaches7,8.

Over the past decade, major technological innovation and research investment have enabled mRNA to become a promising therapeutic tool in the fields of vaccine development and protein replacement therapy. The use of mRNA has several beneficial features over subunit, killed and live attenuated virus, as well as DNA-based vaccines. First, safety: as mRNA is a non-infectious, non-integrating platform, there is no potential risk of infection or insertional mutagenesis. Additionally, mRNA is degraded by normal cellular processes, and its in vivo half-life can be regulated through the use of various modifications and delivery methods9,10,11,12. The inherent immunogenicity of the mRNA can be down-modulated to further increase the safety profile9,12,13. Second, efficacy: various modifications make mRNA more stable and highly translatable9,12,13. Efficient in vivo delivery can be achieved by formulating mRNA into carrier molecules, allowing rapid uptake and expression in the cytoplasm (reviewed in Refs 10,11). mRNA is the minimal genetic vector; therefore, anti-vector immunity is avoided, and mRNA vaccines can be administered repeatedly. Third, production: mRNA vaccines have the potential for rapid, inexpensive and scalable manufacturing, mainly owing to the high yields of in vitro transcription reactions.""""

The mRNA vaccine field is developing extremely rapidly; a large body of preclinical data has accumulated over the past several years, and multiple human clinical trials have been initiated. In this Review, we discuss current mRNA vaccine approaches, summarize the latest findings, highlight challenges and recent successes, and offer perspectives on the future of mRNA vaccines. The data suggest that mRNA vaccines have the potential to solve many of the challenges in vaccine development for both infectious diseases and cancer."""

mRNA vaccines — a new era in vaccinology - Nature Reviews Drug Discovery

mRNA vaccines represent a promising alternative to conventional vaccine approaches, but their application has been hampered by instability and delivery issues. Here, Pardi and colleagues discuss recent advances in mRNA vaccine technology, assess mRNA vaccines currently in development for cancer...

www.nature.com

Also, SARS vaccine research has been underway since 2003 after the SARS virus outbreak in Asia. COVID-19 is a SARS virus.

I bet as a kid you got the Measles/Mumps/Rubella vax, right? So did everybody else.

Like Fauci said...If social media were around during the time of polio, we'd still have polio.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Farkin' miracle it is. To find a vaxx for the virus that they created...and in record time. A vaxx that doesn't prevent the virus, doesn't prevent the spread, still requires the mask and social distancing and must be forced upon the public.

Where's the vaxx for the common cold? Rheumatism? Cancer, Rosacea, eczema, any chronic illness.

 

[Calypso Jones]

polio vaxx are not mandated.

 

[dudmuck]

Will taking the untested covid vaxx shut up the tyrannical left? Highly doubtful. Then there will be the booster this winter and then the boosters next year and then after that when everyone is fatigued with the covid hysteria it will be something else.

Gettin' us ready for the mark of the beast...that be...worldwide democrat tyranny...to rid the world of any belief except that the state is god.

 

[Oddball]

Anyone who was paying attention (and is honest) understood that you can still get covid if vaxxed (especially the more contagious delta variant) but that you had as far greater chance of not ending up in the hospital or dying.

The Cape Cod incident proved that to be true

You wouldn't know honesty if it punched you in the face.

Now go play in traffic.

 

[Oddball]

 

[Mac1958]

Don't get vaxxed. Ignore those who say you should.

There. Problem solved. Quit bitching. It's boring.

 

[toobfreak]

Get vaccinated. We need to cut this thing down before a truly bad variant comes out.

Too late. It is already here. Just announced by Fauci. Even worse than Delta! By years end, the Upsilon variant of Covid will be eating the steel in your car bumper! Funny how Covid chose to spiral out of control AFTER the vax came out that they can all be blamed on those terrible Trump anti-vaxxers who actually want control over their own body!

AND NO PROOF that getting 100% vaccinated would change a thing or stop covid or any variants.

Clearly, Covid-19 seems to be a man made weaponized virus designed to attack mankind.

Far better I think that there should be a commission figuring out how to charge the Chinese with the crime and cost for all of this, instead, the democrats are STILL more worried about beating Trump over the head and blame him for everything than Covid.

 

[dudmuck]

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youre not even trying:

here is fantasy vs reality:

 

[OldFlame]

Just as you are free NOT to take vaccine, the rest of us should be free NOT to subsidize YOUR Hospital stay!
Why should the rest of us pay for YOUR stupidity?
Don't take the vaccine? Fine, but DON'T expect govt or anyone else to pay for your hospital stay...

I think that's an awesome idea, we should do the same for smokers, drug addicts, alcoholics, and anyone that is over their suggested BMI index! Certain cancers are related to poor health choices, so they should not be covered either, anything that is due to poor life/health choices should not be covered. Of course that means that big brother has a right to know everything you buy and consume, what you eat at restaurants should be tracked, what you buy at the grocery store, etc.. Or maybe, for the public good, you should be banned from smoking altogether, and limit purchases of unhealthy foods or attendance to certain restaurants. The insurance companies will love this as well since it will save them a ton of money that they won't have to give back to the consumer because they're lining the pockets of our politicians. But I'm sure you support big business being a lefty and all, you're suddenly their champion and defender when they're trampling on individual rights, so you'll love that they're getting wealthier and keeping your politicians flush with cash too. You should start to advocate this to your leftist politician right away!

 

[playtime]

That makes no sense.... so the initial outbreak just decided it wasn't interested in younger hosts? But the newer variants are for some reason? Why?

makes perfect sciency sense. the NOVEL coronavirus targeted the oldest among us. it was like going after low hanging fruit. nice & easy for covid.

then who got vaxxed first? & the numbers started dropping as far as hospitalizations/deaths. as the different age groups started getting their shots & it was more available on a larger scale - the virus changes cause it can't find a host like it was. the largest demographic being hit the hardest are younger people & the virus is getting stronger as far as transmission.

why do you not know this? don't believe me, go to real science sites & research it yerself or stay the poorly educated fool that donny loves long time.