To the "Anti-vaxxers"

Because it's fucking TRUE. The overall mortality rate for the planet hasn't budged. This is the only pandemic, in the history of pandemics where, 100 years from now, demographers won't be able to prove it happened.

It's a shame you can't understand the difference between fact and opinion. Your schooling was truly terrible.
Well… except for all of the physical samples and digitally archived data and video of course. :cuckoo:
 
That makes no sense.... so the initial outbreak just decided it wasn't interested in younger hosts? But the newer variants are for some reason? Why?
Because the commie virus is learning more about its H. sapiens host and promiscuously, like the culinary promiscuity from which it evolved, it took the least path of resistance: elderly. It has just so many moves on the checkerboard, though.
 
In addition, some believe that elderly comes first in the assessment, not underlying causes, though coming up from behind is the spectre of obesity.
 
yep - vaxxed or not can transmit. that is NOT the point.

lol ... howeverrrrrrrr when yer vaccinated, you are protected from getting seriously ill, if at all . breakthrus are rare & mild at worst & the virus stops in yer nose & doesn't invade yer lungs & other organs.

being unvaxxed, you can get really sick & the overwhelming hospitalizations & intubations are 'young & healthy ' people - that's now the targeted host for delta.
Break throughs ARE NOT rare .... that is a LIE !!!

And, perhaps you can post a valid scientific source stating vaccines protect you from getting seriously ill.
 
Scott Apley, 45, was a city councilman from Dickinson, Texas. He thought COVID was a hoax, that the pandemic was overblown, and masks and vaccines were just a means for government intrusion and control. He regularly posted all sorts of hateful memes downplaying the severity of the pandemic. In May, he sent out invitations to a mask burning. He posted that mask mandates were akin to Nazism. A week before his death, he reposted a meme on Facebook: “In 6 months, we’ve gone from the vax ending the pandemic—to you can still get covid even if vaxxed—to you can pass covid onto others even if vaxxed—to you can still die of covid even if vaxxed—to the unvaxxed are killing the vaxxed.”

On Sunday, he was rushed to the hospital and put on a ventilator almost immediately. He was in bad shape and apparently had already waited too long to go to hospital. Yesterday, he succumbed to what he was sure was a hoax.

Did you see his picture, sadly he was morbidly obese, obesity is one of the more prevalent co-morbidities of covid, along with several others. Very few people have died FROM covid without 1 or more of those co-morbidities. Who knows what other health issues he had, or did you contact his widow to find out?
 
I am putting this in politics instead of healthcare... because it is about the political side of all this.

I am as conservative as they come. Leftism is a cancer among us in many ways.
One, however, is not the vaccine.
Get vaccinated. We need to cut this thing down before a truly bad variant comes out. Delta is not it. It is not nearly as bad as bad as the original, but it can become worse as it will, inevitably morph itself.
As i have stated here a number of times my son is a Respiratory Specialist, and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist. Both at major hospitals.
At the hospital my daughter works at, there are 44 Covid patients. 6 are in ICU. 2 are likely to die.
Wanna know the demographics?
All but two are minorities.
Only one is vaccinated.

Let that sink in. It is the same all over. Right now Covid is a sickness, primarily for the unvaccinated. Yes you can spout off some anecdotal situations that show some vaccinated people getting sick and even dying. But folks, the numbers are simply what the numbers are. And the numbers are the sick enough to be hospitalized - are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

Getting vaccinated is not "giving in". It doesn't make you less conservative. It is not a "win" for the other side.
It is Goddamn common sense in order to stop a very possible bad ass variant from developing that will screw us over worse than 2020.
While I support getting vaxxed (I got mine months ago), let's stop acting like the vaccine is going to eradicate the virus. It's here to stay, folks. We've already seen how defensive it is.
 
Did you see his picture, sadly he was morbidly obese, obesity is one of the more prevalent co-morbidities of covid, along with several others. Very few people have died FROM covid without 1 or more of those co-morbidities. Who knows what other health issues he had, or did you contact his widow to find out?
... just over 1 in 10—have diabetes. 88 million American adults—approximately 1 in 3—have prediabetes.

Percent of adults aged 20 and over with obesity: 42.5% (2017-2018)

Nearly half of all U.S. adults have some type of cardiovascular disease,

Co-morbidity is running rampant in the US. The numbers came from CDC and the heart assn. So diminishing the role of co-morbidity shouldn't be part of the argument.
 
... just over 1 in 10—have diabetes. 88 million American adults—approximately 1 in 3—have prediabetes.

Percent of adults aged 20 and over with obesity: 42.5% (2017-2018)

Nearly half of all U.S. adults have some type of cardiovascular disease,

Co-morbidity is running rampant in the US. The numbers came from CDC and the heart assn. So diminishing the role of co-morbidity shouldn't be part of the argument.

Saying Covid is the sole cause of death also shouldn't be part of the narrative, because that's simply not true. And continuing to tell healthy Americans they need to get an experimental vaccine because people 'just like them' are dying 'from Covid' is unethical as well as a lie. If you're young and healthy, you don't need the vaccine.
 
You go brother! Don't let them inject you with that DNA that will turn you into a goverment zombi bott and allow them to control you. Don't do it!

It always cracks me up you you moron anti-vaxxers from 2020 are the 2021 warriors for Trump's vaccine.

That you don't give a shit about the super spreader southern border, the reality is you don't give a shit at all. It's about control, not vaccines
 
I am putting this in politics instead of healthcare... because it is about the political side of all this.

I am as conservative as they come. Leftism is a cancer among us in many ways.
One, however, is not the vaccine.
Get vaccinated. We need to cut this thing down before a truly bad variant comes out. Delta is not it. It is not nearly as bad as bad as the original, but it can become worse as it will, inevitably morph itself.
As i have stated here a number of times my son is a Respiratory Specialist, and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist. Both at major hospitals.
At the hospital my daughter works at, there are 44 Covid patients. 6 are in ICU. 2 are likely to die.
Wanna know the demographics?
All but two are minorities.
Only one is vaccinated.

Let that sink in. It is the same all over. Right now Covid is a sickness, primarily for the unvaccinated. Yes you can spout off some anecdotal situations that show some vaccinated people getting sick and even dying. But folks, the numbers are simply what the numbers are. And the numbers are the sick enough to be hospitalized - are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

Getting vaccinated is not "giving in". It doesn't make you less conservative. It is not a "win" for the other side.
It is Goddamn common sense in order to stop a very possible bad ass variant from developing that will screw us over worse than 2020.
Delta variant: Basically a mild flu.

The MSM: Constantly lying.

:)
 
While I support getting vaxxed (I got mine months ago), let's stop acting like the vaccine is going to eradicate the virus. It's here to stay, folks. We've already seen how defensive it is.
Fauci and every actual world expert has called the vaccine a tool in fighting the virus not a magic silver bullet...

We are going to see some countries in Europe hit very high compliance (Ireland are aiming at possibly 95% of over 12 year olds at the moment... I thought we should have gone to one of those countries first to show that a vaccine and a few sensible restrictions could fight this virus...

These are the countries to watch... Vermont has low 80% among the adult population at the moment....
 
It always cracks me up you you moron anti-vaxxers from 2020 are the 2021 warriors for Trump's vaccine.

That you don't give a shit about the super spreader southern border, the reality is you don't give a shit at all. It's about control, not vaccines
These people are truly mentally ill.
 

Young People Make Up Biggest Group of Newly Hospitalized COVID-19 Patients

  • More and more young people are being hospitalized for COVID-19 as the Delta variant surges through the U.S.
  • Experts say that initially a person’s age and underlying conditions were the biggest factors for if a person would need to be hospitalized, but now it’s vaccine status.
  • Currently, people ages 18 to 49 make up the largest demographic of hospitalized people due to COVID-19, according to the CDC.
COVID-19 variants are now surging across the United States — especially the highly transmissible Delta variant, which accounts for the vast majority of cases.
Vaccinations for COVID-19 have also decreased with an average of around 750,000 vaccinations daily this week compared to over 3.9 million at the peak of vaccination. About 69 percent of U.S. adults currently have at least one vaccine dose. Demographically, people over age 65 have a much higher vaccination rate, with over 89 percent having at least one dose.
During the start of the pandemic, before there was a vaccine, those most likely to be hospitalized for COVID-19 were older adults.
Now that the Delta variant is spreading widely in the United States, physicians are seeing a worrying trend of younger people ending up in the ICU.

Younger people most affected​

According to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data, recent weeks have shown an increase in COVID-19-related hospitalizations for all age groups, with hospitalized adults ages 18–49 accounting for the largest increase.
Young People Are Biggest Group of Newly Hospitalized COVID-19 Patients
Thank you. As an addition, Florida currently has the most infections since the pandemic began.
20% of those hospitalized now are aged 18 or below.

Not great as we are weeks away from the start of school.
 

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