Today...Smashing The Lie That Nazis Were Rightwing.

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Modern Republican mistakes include.

- Being politically correct to appease Democrats, and future Democrat voting immigrants.

- Doing nothing about Liberal biases in our public schools.

- Reagan's amnesty of millions of illegal immigrants, to allow many new Democrat voters.

- W Bush doing nothing as the most illegal immigrants in history crossed the border, well doing nothing except making it harder for illegal immigrant minors to be deported.

- W Bush's war in Iraq, which was very unpopular, and which just cost us lives, and money.

- Republicans sitting around not cutting Corporate tax rates, as American corporations fled to Ireland like Pfizer, Johnson Controls, Activis etc.

As a result Republicans simply won't exist in the near-future, as Millennials, and Immigrants are mostly anti-Republican.

 

[PoliticalChic]

· In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.

WRONG.
The year was 1865, the place was the law office of Thomas Jones at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee, and the founders were six twentysomething ex-Confederate War veterans, to wit: Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, Richard Reed, Frank McCord, James Crowe and Calvin Jones (son of the building's owner who was housesitting while his parents were away). NONE of these six had any known political affiliations or activities. Nor were there any going on in 1865 Tennessee mere months after the War in a state which would not be admitted back into the union until the following year.

Go ahead --- just try to prove me wrong.

· George Wallace was a Democrat.

· Bull Connor was a Democrat.

Virtually the entire white South were Democrats. Stetson Kennedy was a Democrat.. Ellis Arnall was a Democrat. Oscar Underwood was a Democrat. Huey Long was a Democrat. Jack Walton was a Democrat. Lyndon Johnson was a Democrat. All of them opposed the Klan, and in this list all were Southerners. Jim Folsom was a Democrat too. His anti-Klan masking law was recently posted on these pages in connection with "Antifa" arrests.

Matter of fact after a certain point midway through the 20th century, virtually the entire black South was and still are Democrats too. Such as attorney and state senator Figures in this story: The Woman who Beat the Klan

On the other hand Ed Jackson was a Republican. Clarence Morley was a Republican. George Baker was a Republican. David Duke still is a Republican. Owen Brewster was a Republican opposed by elements in his own party (see Maine above). All of them got elected into office with Klan backing, as Governors, Senators, a Congressman and a Mayor.

Matter of fact virtually the entire state government of Indiana was both Republican and Klan, until this went down---

​

NONE of which leads us to any conclusion without employing a Composition Fallacy. Too bad you're too damned stupid to understand what that means.

"Virtually the entire white South were Democrats."

Nah.....just the racists.

1. Governor Clinton invited Orval Faubus to his inauguration and they exchanged an almost South American abrazo, embrace, http://www.booknotes.org/Watch/72551-1/Paul+Greenberg.aspx
   1. Clinton’s mentor was J. William Fulbright, a vehement foe of integration who had voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
   2. Governor Orval Faubus, progressive New Deal Democrat, blocked the schoolhouse door to the Little Rock Central High School with the state’s National Guard rather than allow nine black students to attend.
   3. 1966- pro-integrationist Republican Winthrop Rockefeller won Arkansas, replacing Clinton-pal Orval Faubus.
   4. 1966 Republican Bo Calloway ran against Democrat Lester Maddox, who “gained national attention for refusing to serve blacks in his popular cafeteria near the Georgia Tech campus. Newsmen tipped off about the confrontation reported how restaurant patrons and employees wielded ax handles while Mr. Maddox waved a pistol. …” Lester Maddox Dies at 87; Segregationist Ex-Governor Leaves Complicated Legacy | HighBeam Business: Arrive Prepared
      1. Maddox was endorsed by Democrat Jimmy Carter in the above governor’s race. When the race was too close to call, the Democrat state legislature gave it to Maddox.
      2. Calloway appealed to the Supreme Court….but the court upheld the legislature’s decision.
      3. On that very Supreme Court was former KKK member Justice Hugo Black.
      4. Democrat Hugo Black was Democrat FDR’s first appointee, in 1937. This KKK Senator from Alabama wrote the majority decision on Korematsu v. US; in 1967, he said ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap.” Engage: Conversations in Philosophy: "They all look alike to a person not a Jap"*: The Legacy of Korematsu at OSU
      5. And, Hugo Black's anti-Catholic bias, which showed up in his actions on the Supreme Court:
2. "... Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.”... Separation was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed..."
   Egnorance: Hugo Black and the real history of "the wall of separation between church and state"
3. 1966- Republican Spiro Agnew ran against Democrat segregationists George Mahoney for governor of Maryland. Agnew enacted some of the first laws in the nation against race discrimination in public housing. “Agnew signed the state's first open-housing laws and succeeded in getting the repeal of an anti-miscegenation law.” Spiro Agnew - Wikipedia

1. 2. 1957- Democrat Sam Ervin, another liberal luminary, instrumental in the destruction of anti-communist Republicans Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon, told his fellow segregationists, and who led the Watergate investigation, said of the 1957 civil rights bill: “We’ve got to give the goddamned ******* something. We’re not gonna be able to get out of here until we’ve got some kind of ****** bill.’ Robert Caro, “Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson,” xv.
   

Let's review"
The Democrat Party has always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship

You have always been a moron.


Any questions?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I predict in 20 years Republicans will get like 20% of the vote.

Republicans have failed.

Republican ideals seem to be to do nothing, except when it comes to war.

Oh Liberals are supporting Liberal biases in public schools, Republican solution DO NOTHING.

Oh Liberals are supporting Illegal immigrants who will vote much more Democrat, Republican solution DO NOTHING.

Oh Liberals are calling Nazis as non-Socialists in our public schools, Republican solution DO NOTHING.

 

[Unkotare]

Polish Nazi's feelings are hurt.

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

This ^^^^^^ is what happens when a brainless buffoon tries to play at political scientist.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

This ^^^^^^ is what happens when a brainless buffoon tries to play at political scientist.

Fascism is unique in that it manages business for National interest... This is favorable, because this would end illegal immigrants, and the outsourcing of jobs which does nothing but props up potential enemies at the expense of national livelihood.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

This ^^^^^^ is what happens when a brainless buffoon tries to play at political scientist.

Every so often some attention-needing loon comes to the board claiming to be a Fascist, or a Communist, or some combination- as though we don't have enough Liberals....

...but it's like some ten year old running around with chaps and a cap pistol shouting 'bang, bang.'


But....it's fun shredding them.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

This ^^^^^^ is what happens when a brainless buffoon tries to play at political scientist.

Every so often some attention-needing loon comes to the board claiming to be a Fascist, or a Communist, or some combination- as though we don't have enough Liberals....

...but it's like some ten year old running around with chaps and a cap pistol shouting 'bang, bang.'


But....it's fun shredding them.

The Republican solution is to do nothing for all of our nations problems.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Where did it begin?

1. Elements of Enlightenment thought that led to the radicalism of the French Revolution, and later inspired Marxism and ideas about materialism, historical determinism and utopianism. also tended to view religion in exclusively negative terms, and to put all emphasis on ideas about human perfection. Gates of Vienna: Multiculturalism and the Enlightenment



a. Therefore, there is a certain irony in that the mythology of the totalitarian ideologies, curiously enough, was based on the New Testament, specifically the Book of Revelation of St. John the Devine.


There is a people of God, and these are under attack, both from within (the city dwellers of Babylon, who have sunk into abominations) and from without (by the forces of Satan). Resistance will result in the war of Armageddon…with the extermination of the evil ones. But not without horrifying destruction. Then there will be the reign of Christ for a thousand years.




2. Sometime after the First World War, the Babylon-Armageddon made its way into political theory. Each version had a people of God, under attack. There was the proletariat for the Bolsheviks and Stalinists; the children of the Roman wolf for Mussolini’s Fascists; the Warriors of Christ the King for Franco’s Phalange, and the Aryan race for the Nazis.
"Terror and Liberalism,"chapter two, Paul Berman



3. the usual in totalitarian mythology: Utopia!
And, as always, another totalitarian movement that rose up in rebellion against the values of the West. Of course, if his vision became fact, the vanguard of believers was going to have to take stern action to bring about a fuller observance of sharia, the reality would be, as usual, a police state, even if it were a police state claiming to be enforcing ‘freedom.’

Now... governance also resulted in a police state?
Stalin's? Hitler's? Franco's? Mussolini's?


4. Every totalitarian movement proposed a total renovation of life, a view that the correct movement, with its sacrifices, would produce a new and better species of mankind.


5. BTW...
In 1969, Hillary Rodham gave the student commencement address at Wellesley in which she said that “ for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible….We’re not interested in social reconstruction; it’s human reconstruction.”
-http://www.wellesley.edu/PublicAffairs/Commencement/1969/053169hillary.html__

Liberalism....America's version of the totalitarian movement.


As the title of the thread teaches: Leftism, totalitarianism, Liberalism, Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, all the same origins, all the same endgame.

And none involve freedom for the individual.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

This ^^^^^^ is what happens when a brainless buffoon tries to play at political scientist.

Fascism has the best economic growth record, not Capitalism.

Franco used Fascist elements to create the best economic growth in 20th century Europe.

FDR used Fascist elements to create the best economic growth in 20th century America.

Nazi Fascists had an economic growth higher than FDR.

Peron used Fascist elements to create the biggest boom in Argentina's history.

 

[Unkotare]

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

This ^^^^^^ is what happens when a brainless buffoon tries to play at political scientist.

.

 

[Pogo]

KKK and every iteration of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship is attributable to one party and one party only: the Democrat Party.

Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party" so there's not even a point made here.

Again as already noted earlier ---- it's instructive that the most fatally flawed partisan hacks insist we MUST take the name of the NSDAP as untouchable gospel and therefore "socialist", while simultaneously ass-uming the authority to take the name of the Democratic Party as some kind of play-doh to twist into whatever one wants. But hey, what's a fallacy orgy without the participation of good ol' Double Standard.

Slavery has a sorry history of thousands of years on every continent, long long LONG before there were political parties or a nation here. The transAtlantic version has existed for some 480 years, again long long LONG before there were parties, a country, or English speakers here. And further ----------- slavery is a social construct, like FGM, and has nothing to do with political philosophies.

Fun fact: Martin van Buren, who organized Andrew Jackson's loose support network into the political party that still exists today much to the challenge of those who can't spell it, also ran for President on the Free Soil ticket. That was a single-issue (Abolition) party before Republicans existed

"Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party"

This is the best obfuscation you can do?????

So....nothing here you can deny????


" The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the Republicans in congress and by 23% of the Democrats in congress.

· Not one Democrat either in the House or the Senate voted for the 14th amendment declaring that former slaves were full citizens of the state in which they lived and were therefore entitled to all the rights and privileges of any other citizen in that state.

· Not a single one of the 56 Democrats in Congress voted for the 15th amendment that granted explicit voting rights to black Americans.

· In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.

· George Wallace was a Democrat.

· Bull Connor was a Democrat.

· In the 19th century, Democrats prevented Black Americans from going to public school.

· In the 20th and 21st century Democrats prevented Black Americans trapped in failing schools from choosing a better school. In fact Democrats voted against the bill by 99%.

· Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, grandfather clauses, Literacy tests, white only primaries, and physical violence all came from the Democratic Party.

· Between 1882 and 1964, 4,743 individuals were lynched. 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites. Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and Democrats successfully blocked those bills."
http://frederickdouglassrepublican.com/did-you-know/



Now....you gotta admit.....you're really a moron.

Before FDR, Democrats, and Republicans were both uber-Capitalist, but Democrats were actually more socially Conservative.

Somewhat true, somewhat not. While there really wasn't such a thing as a "social conservatism" where religious and moral platitudes infect politics (that would come about in the 1970s), it's also true that William Jennings Bryan, the perennial Democratic presidential candidate, was decades later on the infamous side of the prosecution in the Scopes Monkey Trial arguing against the teaching of Evolution. But the same Bryan in his efforts at the turn of the century was standing in opposition to the pro-corporate, pro-wealth, pro-aristocrat candidacy of McKinley and its inevitably attached penchant for imperialism (which would then manifest in Hawaìi, the Philippines, Cuba and Puerto Rico etc).

Bryan and the Democrats had at that century's turn absorbed the Populist party and movement, whence came its association with those Klan enemies mentioned above --- immigrants, Jews, Catholics, women and labor unions, while the Republicans took on the interests of the wealthy, the corporations and the upper class. Before those associations coalesced, the DP had been the party of "states rights" while the RP was the party of "big government".

After FDR, the DP's commitment to commoners took a back seat to the priority of a permanent war economy ushered in by Truman. Republicans found little to disagree with there and that became the shared focus of the Duopoly, the only contention between them being which party could out-war and out-bogeyman the other (enter McCarthy, a callous opportunist who had, like the Klan, been both a Republican and a Democrat depending on what served him at the time).

And here we the people are today left behind by both, a world where Democrats pretend to care about the common individual and Republicans pretend to care about the small business, while both genuflect before Wall Street and the MIC murmuring "yes masters, may we have another war, seeing as how it's so good for business and for getting elected".

 

[Pogo]

Polish Nazi's feelings are hurt.

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

Liberalism is what this country and its Constitution is built on, so it really has no need to be "pushed" or "fester".

​

But please do essplain --- how does one "support Feminism for cheap labor"?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

Liberalism is what this country and its Constitution is built on, so it really has no need to be "pushed" or "fester".

​

But please do essplain --- how does one "support Feminism for cheap labor"?

Oh those Liberal Founding Fathers, and their Naturalization Act of 1790 they created which said only free Whites of good character were to become U.S citizens.

Feminism increases the number of workers, and therefor undermine wages, therefor Feminism can be used as a tool for cheap labor.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

KKK and every iteration of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship is attributable to one party and one party only: the Democrat Party.

Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party" so there's not even a point made here.

Again as already noted earlier ---- it's instructive that the most fatally flawed partisan hacks insist we MUST take the name of the NSDAP as untouchable gospel and therefore "socialist", while simultaneously ass-uming the authority to take the name of the Democratic Party as some kind of play-doh to twist into whatever one wants. But hey, what's a fallacy orgy without the participation of good ol' Double Standard.

Slavery has a sorry history of thousands of years on every continent, long long LONG before there were political parties or a nation here. The transAtlantic version has existed for some 480 years, again long long LONG before there were parties, a country, or English speakers here. And further ----------- slavery is a social construct, like FGM, and has nothing to do with political philosophies.

Fun fact: Martin van Buren, who organized Andrew Jackson's loose support network into the political party that still exists today much to the challenge of those who can't spell it, also ran for President on the Free Soil ticket. That was a single-issue (Abolition) party before Republicans existed

"Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party"

This is the best obfuscation you can do?????

So....nothing here you can deny????


" The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the Republicans in congress and by 23% of the Democrats in congress.

· Not one Democrat either in the House or the Senate voted for the 14th amendment declaring that former slaves were full citizens of the state in which they lived and were therefore entitled to all the rights and privileges of any other citizen in that state.

· Not a single one of the 56 Democrats in Congress voted for the 15th amendment that granted explicit voting rights to black Americans.

· In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.

· George Wallace was a Democrat.

· Bull Connor was a Democrat.

· In the 19th century, Democrats prevented Black Americans from going to public school.

· In the 20th and 21st century Democrats prevented Black Americans trapped in failing schools from choosing a better school. In fact Democrats voted against the bill by 99%.

· Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, grandfather clauses, Literacy tests, white only primaries, and physical violence all came from the Democratic Party.

· Between 1882 and 1964, 4,743 individuals were lynched. 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites. Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and Democrats successfully blocked those bills."
http://frederickdouglassrepublican.com/did-you-know/



Now....you gotta admit.....you're really a moron.

Before FDR, Democrats, and Republicans were both uber-Capitalist, but Democrats were actually more socially Conservative.

After FDR, the DP's commitment to commoners took a back seat to the priority of a permanent war economy ushered in by Truman. .

War / Military funding is stimulus funding, no?

Amazing that many Americans think it's more acceptable to have stimulus funding War crush other nations, than to have stimulus funding Public works build up our nation.

Besides, Sweden, or Ireland, and some other nations in Europe seem to be doing pretty good economically without War, or much military funding.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

This ^^^^^^ is what happens when a brainless buffoon tries to play at political scientist.

Fascism has the best economic growth record, not Capitalism.

Franco used Fascist elements to create the best economic growth in 20th century Europe.

FDR used Fascist elements to create the best economic growth in 20th century America.

Nazi Fascists had an economic growth higher than FDR.

Peron used Fascist elements to create the biggest boom in Argentina's history.

Speaking up for Leftism:

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

This is not what History records. Hitler hated the Commies.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

This is not what History records. Hitler hated the Commies.

Actually, it is, Danny


What you see as 'historical records' is simply sibling rivalry.

"As you may be able to guess from the Cyrillic writing accompanying it, it was a Soviet Swastika -- used by the Red Army in its early days. It was worn as a shoulder patch by some Soviet troops. The Swastika too was a socialist symbol long before Hitler became influential. Prewar socialists (including some American socialists) used it on the grounds that it has two arms representing two entwined letters "S" (for "Socialist"). So even Hitler's symbolism was Leftist."
HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST


A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.


Lenin, communist...Hitler, NationalSocialist..... "the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...."





a. Hitler and Stalin were allies up until June 21, 1941, Stalin provided the resources for the Blitzkrieg of Hitler, and both attacked Poland, one from each side.

September 1, 1939, Hitler attacked Poland....on September 17, Stalin attacks from the East. The Soviet radio transmitter in Minsk guided the Nazi bombers attacking Polish cities.

Newsreel footage showed the Red Army in Nazi helmets, marching side by side with the SS. One photo shows the hammer and sickle along side the swastika.



Two Leftist programs, allies.

 

[Pogo]

War / Military funding is stimulus funding, no?

It certainly can be, depending on the intended stimulee (Bell Helicopter, Blackwater, General Electric, Halliburton, Raytheon et al). LBJ thought so. Bush and The Dick Cheney really thought so. Eisenhower and Dulles really thought so too, at least before Ike quipped "don't do what we just did" on his way out the door.

That's not to say however that any stimulus funding is military. Clearly both FDR (1933) and O'bama (2009) launched stimuli that were domestically focused.

Amazing that many Americans think it's more acceptable to have stimulus funding War crush other nations, than to have stimulus funding Public works build up our nation.

I think that stomach turned first with the racist torture atrocities in the Philippines, and then China, and then further with the unheard of chemical warfare and civilian bombing of what was then called the "Great War", oblivious to its setup for a second Great War necessitating Roman numerals to distinguish one from the next.

Besides, Sweden, or Ireland, and some other nations in Europe seem to be doing pretty good economically without War, or much military funding.

Indeed they do, agreed.
And it's an enormous economic burden -- we spend more on war toys than the next several nations (including China) combined.

 

[Pogo]

Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

This is not what History records. Hitler hated the Commies.

Indeed he did His first political prisoners, in his first political prison camp (Dachau) were the communists and socialists that he had been beating up, via the SA ("brownshirts") to get his opposition out of the way of his path to power. Again for the OP --- that word was opposition.

The same Hitler who paraded about with the "National Socialist Worker's Party" called those brownshirts the "Gymnastics and Sports Division" --- so much for propaganda terms.

 

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The Nazi party was not as socialist as you might think. And Hitler was definitely not a socialist. Hitler's right-wing ideology was evident from the moment he put on a German uniform to fight in WW1. Right wingers constantly remind us how
those who serve exemplify the highest order of right wing patriotism. Well, folks, Hitler served. And though detractors have downplayed any heroics attributed to him, he was close enough to the fighting to be hospitalized after a gas attack.

So the obvious question arises: how did a decorated right-wing military Patriot become involved with the. SUPPOSED National Socialist Party? Hint: for those who read his seminal treatise, Mein Kampf, the answer is clear.
Therein, Hitler bares his soul and decries the evils of Communism and Jews. Karl Marx would not have recognized Mein Kampf as an adjunct to his philosophy. Nay, after reading it,
he would have regarded Hitler as an enemy.

So, Hitler, the veteran patriot , brimming with jingoistic ideology and dangerous notions of racial superiority searched for an avenue to power. His choices?

The political quandry in Germany after WW1

"For the first time in German history political parties had real power. They could determine policy and had patronage available for supporters. However, the large number of political parties made coalitions necessary and made it difficult to obtain and maintain legislative majorities. At times there were more than thirty political parties on the ballot although only about six commanded substantial voting blocs. Making life even more difficult for the Republic were extremist parties on both sides of the political spectrum who were opposed to the existence of the Republic itself. The most important of these radical anti-Republican parties were the communists on the left and the National Socialists (Nazis) on the right. "

Yes, according to Professor Paul Bookbinder, University of Massachusetts Boston, the Nazis were a right wing extremist party despite the socialist implications of the name. I concur based on the empirical evidence gleaned from the historians who recorded the RW extremist views of the Nazis... The scion of intolerance. Is all to frequently parented by RW populism and racism.

Of the three choices open to Hitler, the right wing Nazis were more closely aligned with the principles outlined in Mein Kampf. Hatred for the Jews was already pervasive among Christian Germans and there was nothing akin to Marxism about that.

Mein Kampf sold well and.through it, Hitler had tapped into the jingoistic fervor
whereas Jews and Conmunists represented all that was wrong with Germany. Hitler was able to enshrine himself as the top cause celebre of the right wing populists movement. Whereas, he easily seduced the overlords of the NAZI party,
already inebriated by the spiked kool-aid of Mein Kampf.