Today...Smashing The Lie That Nazis Were Rightwing.

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

If you weren't such a moron you wouldn't keep putting your foot......FEET...in your mouth.

So glad you bring up the love of Roosevelt's life....Benito Mussolini


1. RexTugwell, FDR's guru, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Francis Perkins the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."
The NRA was copied wholesale from Mussolini's corporative system.

a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.

b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48




2. " As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. ... In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and revolutionary Marxism, with its violent and socially divisive persecution of the bourgeoisie. Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism.....

.... Mussolini praised the New Deal as “boldly . . . interventionist in the field of economics,” and Roosevelt complimented Mussolini for his “honest purpose of restoring Italy” and acknowledged that he kept “in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman.”

Also, Hugh Johnson, head of the National Recovery Administration, was known to carry a copy of Raffaello Viglione’s pro-Mussolini book, The Corporate State, with him, presented a copy to Labor Secretary Frances Perkins, and, on retirement, paid tribute to the Italian dictator."
Fascism: The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics | Library of Economics and Liberty



3. Mussolini distinguished fascism from liberal capitalism in his 1928 autobiography:

"The citizen in the Fascist State is no longer a selfish individual who has the anti-social right of rebelling against any law of the Collectivity. The Fascist State with its corporative conception puts men and their possibilities into productive work and interprets for them the duties they have to fulfill." (p. 280)


QED....FDR & Mussolini, sittin' in a tree.....

Liberals and Fascists.....one and the same.

You....a moron.

As the boards resident fascist, you deny that you voted for President Trumpolini?

Let's review...
1. I just proved that FDR and Mussolini were blood brothers.

FDR, and Franco indeed both used Fascist elements to a high degree.'

FDR achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century America.

Franco achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century Europe.

Fascism is not just a viable economic option, but the most viable economic option known to man.

 

[Unkotare]

Japan emerged as the economic power house in that part of the world after WW2.
Even the devastating effects of two nuclear blasts barely slowed them down.. So what social phenomena spurred their economic success far beyond the struggling economies of the other Asian countries?
Hint: it couldn't have been race. I see the rejection of Communism as a key to the origins of prosperity in Japanese. Nevertheless, socialized healthcare and
Institutions remained as tenets of the social fabric.

But a shift in the economic paradigm occured when workers swore loyalty to the corporations that employed them. Conversely, the corporations reciprocated. I was astonished to see a hundreds of employees standing in a parking lot saluting a corporate flag while singing a corporate anthem.

The Japanese homogeneity you speak of is an illusion since all Asians are really just extended genetic families of the
Chinese. Language cultural and physical differences aren't all that stark.

Japan industrialized early, as a result they were ahead of others in the region even before WW2, which is why Japan could cause so much damage to China, and Korea.

During that era, Japan was ruled by god-kings and feudal lords.Something in that social formula encouraged technological progression. But obviously race wasn't a factor. The Chinese and Koreans were /are basically the same racial stock as the Japanese and just as smart. Japan's advantage had to be related to the synergy
generated by the man gods and their adoring subjects, the latter of which would willingly die for them without hesitation.

I suspect it has mostly to do with war, war disproportionately targets the elite, as a result the elite start to vanish.

In the case of Japan, and also Britain in Europe, they simply avoided much war, by being protected on islands.

In dealing with Japanese, and Brits online they tend to be quite more stupid than their neighbors, but their elite obviously isn't.

More ignorance from the Polish Nazi.

...supporting the demise of your own people.

...

False premise AGAIN, buffoon.

 

[Unkotare]

The fact of the matter is that you can't use the same terminology to compare American and European political extremes either historically or currently. What seems right wing to Euros can be mainstream or even left wing to Americans. Political cliches can mean different things to Europeans and Americans. Lefties are fond of calling republicans "fascists" when they don't even have a freaking clue that fascism equals government control and that's the opposite of right wing thinking. How can you argue that the Nazis were right wing when the acronym Nazi stands for nationalist socialist?

No, it stands for "National Socialist". Already part of the name when Hitler joined it, and didn't like but he went along with it for the marketing appeal, while proceeding to battle, assault, and eventually imprison the actual socialists.

Or are you actually asking the class that Adolf Hitler, who called his brownshirt thug brigade the "Gymnastics and Sports Division" --- was an honest guy who would never engage in disingenuous euphemism?

Hey --- your call.

It's actually hilarious the way y'all revisionistas insist that the name of the NSDAP absolutely must be taken literally, while at the same time insisting that the name of the US Democratic Party, absolutely must not.

Having it both ways --- Priceless.

Nazism and Liberalism.....two totalitarian doctrines.


"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.


2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."




Oh....I forgot to mention: You're a moron.

Your moronic repetition of the same lies, over and over will NEVER make it true.

Nazis are extreme right-wing conservatives. You OWN the Nazi Party, the KKK, and the white supremacists.

All of the nasty things that live under rocks are all out in the light of day, invited by Trump.

But, the most nasty thing on this forum isn't a Racist, but rather an anti-Racist named Unkotare.

Polish Nazi's feelings are hurt.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The fact of the matter is that you can't use the same terminology to compare American and European political extremes either historically or currently. What seems right wing to Euros can be mainstream or even left wing to Americans. Political cliches can mean different things to Europeans and Americans. Lefties are fond of calling republicans "fascists" when they don't even have a freaking clue that fascism equals government control and that's the opposite of right wing thinking. How can you argue that the Nazis were right wing when the acronym Nazi stands for nationalist socialist?

No, it stands for "National Socialist". Already part of the name when Hitler joined it, and didn't like but he went along with it for the marketing appeal, while proceeding to battle, assault, and eventually imprison the actual socialists.

Or are you actually asking the class that Adolf Hitler, who called his brownshirt thug brigade the "Gymnastics and Sports Division" --- was an honest guy who would never engage in disingenuous euphemism?

Hey --- your call.

It's actually hilarious the way y'all revisionistas insist that the name of the NSDAP absolutely must be taken literally, while at the same time insisting that the name of the US Democratic Party, absolutely must not.

Having it both ways --- Priceless.

Nazism and Liberalism.....two totalitarian doctrines.


"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.


2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."




Oh....I forgot to mention: You're a moron.

Your moronic repetition of the same lies, over and over will NEVER make it true.

Nazis are extreme right-wing conservatives. You OWN the Nazi Party, the KKK, and the white supremacists.

All of the nasty things that live under rocks are all out in the light of day, invited by Trump.

But, the most nasty thing on this forum isn't a Racist, but rather an anti-Racist named Unkotare.

Polish Nazi's feelings are hurt.

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Japan industrialized early, as a result they were ahead of others in the region even before WW2, which is why Japan could cause so much damage to China, and Korea.

During that era, Japan was ruled by god-kings and feudal lords.Something in that social formula encouraged technological progression. But obviously race wasn't a factor. The Chinese and Koreans were /are basically the same racial stock as the Japanese and just as smart. Japan's advantage had to be related to the synergy
generated by the man gods and their adoring subjects, the latter of which would willingly die for them without hesitation.

I suspect it has mostly to do with war, war disproportionately targets the elite, as a result the elite start to vanish.

In the case of Japan, and also Britain in Europe, they simply avoided much war, by being protected on islands.

In dealing with Japanese, and Brits online they tend to be quite more stupid than their neighbors, but their elite obviously isn't.

More ignorance from the Polish Nazi.

...supporting the demise of your own people.

...

False premise AGAIN, buffoon.

Are you Northern Irish? or Irish Catholic?
Because you come off like a Brit... Which is by no means a compliment... They too are obnoxious, big mouth, fail troll anti-Racists overwhelmingly.

 

[Unkotare]

No, it stands for "National Socialist". Already part of the name when Hitler joined it, and didn't like but he went along with it for the marketing appeal, while proceeding to battle, assault, and eventually imprison the actual socialists.

Or are you actually asking the class that Adolf Hitler, who called his brownshirt thug brigade the "Gymnastics and Sports Division" --- was an honest guy who would never engage in disingenuous euphemism?

Hey --- your call.

It's actually hilarious the way y'all revisionistas insist that the name of the NSDAP absolutely must be taken literally, while at the same time insisting that the name of the US Democratic Party, absolutely must not.

Having it both ways --- Priceless.

Nazism and Liberalism.....two totalitarian doctrines.


"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.


2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."




Oh....I forgot to mention: You're a moron.

Your moronic repetition of the same lies, over and over will NEVER make it true.

Nazis are extreme right-wing conservatives. You OWN the Nazi Party, the KKK, and the white supremacists.

All of the nasty things that live under rocks are all out in the light of day, invited by Trump.

But, the most nasty thing on this forum isn't a Racist, but rather an anti-Racist named Unkotare.

Polish Nazi's feelings are hurt.

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

 

[Unkotare]

During that era, Japan was ruled by god-kings and feudal lords.Something in that social formula encouraged technological progression. But obviously race wasn't a factor. The Chinese and Koreans were /are basically the same racial stock as the Japanese and just as smart. Japan's advantage had to be related to the synergy
generated by the man gods and their adoring subjects, the latter of which would willingly die for them without hesitation.

I suspect it has mostly to do with war, war disproportionately targets the elite, as a result the elite start to vanish.

In the case of Japan, and also Britain in Europe, they simply avoided much war, by being protected on islands.

In dealing with Japanese, and Brits online they tend to be quite more stupid than their neighbors, but their elite obviously isn't.

More ignorance from the Polish Nazi.

...supporting the demise of your own people.

...

False premise AGAIN, buffoon.

Are you Northern Irish? or Irish Catholic?
.....

I'm an American, unlike you.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Nazism and Liberalism.....two totalitarian doctrines.


"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.


2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."




Oh....I forgot to mention: You're a moron.

Your moronic repetition of the same lies, over and over will NEVER make it true.

Nazis are extreme right-wing conservatives. You OWN the Nazi Party, the KKK, and the white supremacists.

All of the nasty things that live under rocks are all out in the light of day, invited by Trump.

But, the most nasty thing on this forum isn't a Racist, but rather an anti-Racist named Unkotare.

Polish Nazi's feelings are hurt.

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The fact of the matter is that you can't use the same terminology to compare American and European political extremes either historically or currently. What seems right wing to Euros can be mainstream or even left wing to Americans. Political cliches can mean different things to Europeans and Americans. Lefties are fond of calling republicans "fascists" when they don't even have a freaking clue that fascism equals government control and that's the opposite of right wing thinking. How can you argue that the Nazis were right wing when the acronym Nazi stands for nationalist socialist?

No, it stands for "National Socialist". Already part of the name when Hitler joined it, and didn't like but he went along with it for the marketing appeal, while proceeding to battle, assault, and eventually imprison the actual socialists.

Or are you actually asking the class that Adolf Hitler, who called his brownshirt thug brigade the "Gymnastics and Sports Division" --- was an honest guy who would never engage in disingenuous euphemism?

Hey --- your call.

It's actually hilarious the way y'all revisionistas insist that the name of the NSDAP absolutely must be taken literally, while at the same time insisting that the name of the US Democratic Party, absolutely must not.

Having it both ways --- Priceless.

Nazism and Liberalism.....two totalitarian doctrines.


"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.


2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."




Oh....I forgot to mention: You're a moron.

Your moronic repetition of the same lies, over and over will NEVER make it true.

Nazis are extreme right-wing conservatives. You OWN the Nazi Party, the KKK, and the white supremacists.

All of the nasty things that live under rocks are all out in the light of day, invited by Trump.

As you are a typical Liberal....i.e., an imbecile....this challenge will fall on deaf ears....and a concrete cerebrum....but simple enough to prove you the failure that you are:


All of my posts are linked, sourced and documented.

See if you can find any posts of mine that you can dispute.



If you can't, have 'Imbecile' monogrammed on all of your outfits.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The fact of the matter is that you can't use the same terminology to compare American and European political extremes either historically or currently. What seems right wing to Euros can be mainstream or even left wing to Americans. Political cliches can mean different things to Europeans and Americans. Lefties are fond of calling republicans "fascists" when they don't even have a freaking clue that fascism equals government control and that's the opposite of right wing thinking. How can you argue that the Nazis were right wing when the acronym Nazi stands for nationalist socialist?

No, it stands for "National Socialist". Already part of the name when Hitler joined it, and didn't like but he went along with it for the marketing appeal, while proceeding to battle, assault, and eventually imprison the actual socialists.

Or are you actually asking the class that Adolf Hitler, who called his brownshirt thug brigade the "Gymnastics and Sports Division" --- was an honest guy who would never engage in disingenuous euphemism?

Hey --- your call.

It's actually hilarious the way y'all revisionistas insist that the name of the NSDAP absolutely must be taken literally, while at the same time insisting that the name of the US Democratic Party, absolutely must not.

Having it both ways --- Priceless.

Nazism and Liberalism.....two totalitarian doctrines.


"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.


2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."




Oh....I forgot to mention: You're a moron.

Your moronic repetition of the same lies, over and over will NEVER make it true.

Nazis are extreme right-wing conservatives. You OWN the Nazi Party, the KKK, and the white supremacists.

All of the nasty things that live under rocks are all out in the light of day, invited by Trump.

"Nazis are extreme right-wing conservatives. You OWN the Nazi Party, the KKK, and the white supremacists."


Now...watch me ram every one of your lies back down your Liberal throat:

1. "Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?

It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."




2. Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425

a. "Another way Democrats could keep blacks from being elected ... antilynching laws, but Democrats successfully blocked every antilynching bill. ... a federal antilynching bill in Congress, but Democrats in the Senate killed it."
"Stealing the Minds of America: A Must for All Truth Seekers Who Vote,"
By Janice L. Ponds
https://books.google.com/books?id=I...enate blocked every anti lynching law&f=false

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your moronic repetition of the same lies, over and over will NEVER make it true.

Nazis are extreme right-wing conservatives. You OWN the Nazi Party, the KKK, and the white supremacists.

All of the nasty things that live under rocks are all out in the light of day, invited by Trump.

But, the most nasty thing on this forum isn't a Racist, but rather an anti-Racist named Unkotare.

Polish Nazi's feelings are hurt.

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

 

[danielpalos]

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you have no response.

Exactly. That's why I call 'em "fun inconvenient facts". Inconvenient for you; fun for me.
Also known as a "win-win".

Here's a fact: you're a moron.

You can't bare the truth: this ->

"American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II.

After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism.

“Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.”

This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ...."
Progressive Support for Italian and German Fascism - Discover the Networks

Sooooooooooooooooooooo you're actually reposting the lack of response, in hope that even more readers will notice the rhetorical vacuum.

Good plan.

"Can't bare the truth" huh? Nice touch. Yep, it's what I do around here ---- bare the truth, when y'all Revisionistas try to dress it up all different.

Communism, National Socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....all have a the central doctrine:
"....an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature...." Goldberg, LF



Did I mention that you're a moron?

Did I mention that your cherrypicked "source" Jonah Goldberg is a duplicitous hack? You know, like yourself?

Just to pick my favorite out of that laundry list --- Liberalism, about which it's obvious Goldberg and you know as much about as I know about the geology of Tasmania.... has nothing to do with "all-encompassing states"; in fact it's the ideological reverse, holding that power derives from the consent of the governed and that aside from basic infrastructural and security givens the State should just get the hell out of the way.

Apparently basic knowledge of basic political science isn't a requirement for getting a book published, any more than it is for starting an internet message board history revision thread.

Jonah Goldberg --- concoctor of the Doublethink term "Liberal Fascism". Which is right up there on the lexicographical junkyard with "cold heat".

Liberals and Nazis....very same programs:

"The Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt (NSV), meaning "National Socialist People's Welfare", was a social welfare organization during the Third Reich. The NSV was established in 1933,.... The NSV became established as the single Nazi Party welfare organ in May 1933.[1] .... the programme was massively expanded, so that the régime deemed it worthy to be called the "greatest social institution in the world." One method of expansion was to absorb, or in NSDAP parlance coordinate, already existing but non-Nazi charity organizations. NSV was the second largest Nazi group organization by 1939, second only to the German Labor Front.


The National Socialists provided a plethora of social welfare programs under the Nazi concept of Volksgemeinschaft which promoted the collectivity of a “people’s community” where citizens would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The NSV operated “8,000 day-nurseries” by 1939, and funded holiday homes for mothers, distributed additional food for large families, and was involved with a “wide variety of other facilities.”[4]


The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941[5]One of the NSV branches, the Office of Institutional and Special Welfare, was responsible “for travellers’ aid at railway stations; relief for ex-convicts; ‘support’ for re-migrants from abroad; assistance for the physically disabled, hard-of-hearing, deaf, mute, and blind; relief for the elderly, homeless and alcoholics; and the fight against illicit drugs and epidemics.”


These social welfare programs represented a Hitlerian endeavor to lift the community above the individual while promoting the wellbeing of all bona fide citizens. As Hitler told a reporter in 1934, he was determined to give Germans “the highest possible standard of living.” National Socialist People's Welfare - Wikipedia




Know why?

Very same origins and doctrines.



Did I mention that you're a moron?

The difference dear, is that liberal socialists on the left understand our Constitution, unlike national socialists on the right wing.

 

[Pogo]

Perhaps a working definition of "moron" might be trotting the same disingenuous bullshit out on an internet message board after it's been shot full of holes, and somehow "this" time expecting different results...

As in:

2. Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425

Same carefully edited cherrypicked quote, carefully excising the phrase "in effect", referring only to a political result, only in a specified region, and only in a specified time. The poster is apparently too dense or too wallowed in hackneyed partisanship to notice Foner's comparing two dynamics that share a common objective. The objective of any political party is to prevail over its rival parties, while the objective of the white racialist South was to marginalize and if possible eliminate the military occupation then populated by Republicans, an organization all of eleven years old that had never run a candidate in the South before that point.

The fact that two entities share a common objective in no way makes them the same thing. To recall the actual topic here, the US and the USSR shared the same objective of defeating Nazi Germany --- shall we then conclude the US "served the interests of" the USSR, and that one is therefore a product of the other? Shall we conclude that the US founded the USSR? Only a partisan hack trapped in her own fallacy would fall into such a hole.

The contextual facts remain,

(a) the Klan was founded by six young veteran soldiers none of whom had any known political affiliations or activities and deliberately structured to avoid politics, were likely too young to have voted in recent elections, and were living at the time in a state without voting rights anyway;

(b) it was one of literally dozens of similar "in effect" local and regional vigilante groups organized more or less formally in the same time frame, including the Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869); Constitutional Union Guard (North Carolina 1868-70; Heggie's Scouts (Mississippi); Heroes of America (South Carolina); Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi); Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868); Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69); Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama); Native Sons of the South (Mississippi); Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867); Red Caps (Tennessee); Red Jackets (Tennessee); Red Strings (South Carolina); Robertson Family (Mississippi); Society of the White Rose (Mississippi); Seymour Knights (Louisiana); White League* (Louisiana 1874); White Brotherhood (North Carolina 1868-70) and the Yellow Jackets (Tennessee);

*the White League noted above was the instigator of the riot in New Orleans (1874, after the Klan was extinguished) commemorated by the "Liberty Place" monument that that city removed three weeks ago.​

(c) soon after its founding as an innocuous social club to cope with the boredom of postwar small-town life it was taken over by "night rider" elements that had already existed from early in the 18th century, long before the War and long before there existed a United States or political parties in it;

(d) When it did eventually dabble directly in politics the Klan supported (or opposed) whichever political party served (or opposed) its interests in that time and place, including electing Republican Governors, Senators and municipal officials in Maine, California, Oregon, Colorado and virtually the entire state of Indiana, and opposing Democrats who tried to suppress it in Oklahoma, Alabama, New York, Georgia, Florida and the federal government. In Maine both the pro- and the anti-Klan forces were Republicans, that state being as solidly Republican as the South was Democratic. And in that decade while working to minimize opposition from a Democratic Presidential nominee, the KKK supported Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover. A Klan-supported candidate (Bowles) won the office of Mayor in Detroit, with no political party affiliation at all, as a write-in.

(e) the Klan of the 1920s loudly opposed and persecuted not only blacks but Jews, Catholics, immigrants, labor unions, independent women and foreigners in general, all of which were (and still are) constituents of the Democratic Party, crowing constantly the Know Nothing Party creed of "100% Americanism". The rekindling of the Klan in 1915 (again by a founder with no political history) was in fact born out of the lynching of a Jew, Leo Frank.

(f) the USMB reader will note, following the last point, the equally constant crowing of David Duke apologist Steve McRacist on these pages, who follows Duke around like a puppy for his anti-Jew rhetoric. The same reader will strain him/herself recalling the last time McRacist posted anything positive about "Democrats". Duke most recently ran (last year) in the Louisiana Senate primary -- as a Republican.

(g) the Klan was suppressed and/or opposed by both Republicans (Grant, 41st Congress) and Democrats (Walton, Arnall, FDR, LBJ, Underwood). Officially it has not existed since the 1940s when Gov Arnall revoked its charter and FDR's IRS bankrupted it. Gov. Walton tried to drive it out of Oklahoma and the Klan got him removed; Underwood was the most vocal Klan opponent of his time and the Klan undermined his (and Al Smith's) Presidential nomination.

None of the above "in effect serve the interests of the Democratic Party".

And (h) I'll see your historian Eric Foner and raise you a historian Elaine Franz Parsons, who describes the original Klanner of the late 1860s thusly:

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." ---- Parsons, The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction -- Page 816

​

I do have to admit, posts come out much shorter when you carefully cherrypick only the parts that are going to make your single partisan-hack point look real. Too bad your adversary also has access to historical sources to fill in what you left out. That must suck to be buried that deeply.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Perhaps a working definition of "moron" might be trotting the same disingenuous bullshit out on an internet message board after it's been shot full of holes, and somehow "this" time expecting different results...

As in:

2. Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425

Same carefully edited cherrypicked quote, carefully excising the phrase "in effect", referring only to a political result, only in a specified region, and only in a specified time. The poster is apparently too dense or too wallowed in hackneyed partisanship to notice Foner's comparing two dynamics that share a common objective. The objective of any political party is to prevail over its rival parties, while the objective of the white racialist South was to marginalize and if possible eliminate the military occupation then populated by Republicans, an organization all of eleven years old that had never run a candidate in the South before that point.

The facts remain,

(a) the Klan was founded by six young veteran soldiers none of whom had any known political affiliations or activities and deliberately structured to avoid politics, were likely too young to have voted in recent elections, and were living at the time in a state without voting rights anyway;

(b) it was one of literally dozens of similar "in effect" local and regional vigilante groups organized more or less formally in the same time frame, including the Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869); Constitutional Union Guard (North Carolina 1868-70; Heggie's Scouts (Mississippi); Heroes of America (South Carolina); Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi); Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868); Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69); Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama); Native Sons of the South (Mississippi); Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867); Red Caps (Tennessee); Red Jackets (Tennessee); Red Strings (South Carolina); Robertson Family (Mississippi); Society of the White Rose (Mississippi); Seymour Knights (Louisiana); White League* (Louisiana 1874); White Brotherhood (North Carolina 1868-70) and the Yellow Jackets (Tennessee);

*the White League noted above was the instigator of the riot in New Orleans (1874, after the Klan was extinguished) commemorated by the "Liberty Place" monument that that city removed three weeks ago.​

(c) soon after its founding as an innocuous social club to cope with the boredom of postwar small-town life it was taken over by "night rider" elements that had already existed from early in the 18th century, long before the War and long before there existed a United States or political parties in it;

(d) When it did eventually dabble directly in politics the Klan supported (or opposed) whichever political party served (or opposed) its interests in that time and place, including electing Republican Governors, Senators and municipal officials in Maine, California, Oregon, Colorado and virtually the entire state of Indiana, and opposing Democrats who tried to suppress it in Oklahoma, Alabama, New York, Georgia, Florida and the federal government. In Maine both the pro- and the anti-Klan forces were Republicans, that state being as solidly Republican as the South was Democratic. And in that decade while working to minimize opposition from a Democratic Presidential nominee, the KKK supported Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover. A Klan-supported candidate (Bowles) won the office of Mayor in Detroit, with no political party affiliation at all, as a write-in.

(e) the Klan of the 1920s loudly opposed and persecuted not only blacks but Jews, Catholics, immigrants, labor unions, independent women and foreigners in general, all of which were (and still are) constituents of the Democratic Party, crowing constantly the Know Nothing Party creed of "100% Americanism". The rekindling of the Klan in 1915 (again by a founder with no political history) was in fact born out of the lynching of a Jew, Leo Frank.

(f) the USMB reader will note, following the last point, the equally constant crowing of David Duke apologist Steve McRacist on these pages, who follows Duke around like a puppy for his anti-Jew rhetoric. The same reader will strain him/herself recalling the last time McRacist posted anything positive about "Democrats". Duke most recently ran (last year) in the Louisiana Senate primary -- as a Republican.

(g) the Klan was suppressed and/or opposed by both Republicans (Grant, 41st Congress) and Democrats (Walton, Arnall, FDR, LBJ, Underwood). Officially it has not existed since the 1940s when Gov Arnall revoked its charter and FDR's IRS bankrupted it. Gov. Walton tried to drive it out of Oklahoma and the Klan got him removed; Underwood was the most vocal Klan opponent of his time and the Klan undermined his (and Al Smith's) Presidential nomination.

None of the above "in effect serve the interests of the Democratic Party".

And (h) I'll see your historian Eric Foner and raise you a historian Elaine Franz Parsons, who describes the original Klanner of the late 1860s thusly:

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." ---- Parsons, The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction -- Page 816

​

I do have to admit, posts come out much shorter when you carefully cherrypick only the parts that are going to make your single partisan-hack point look real. Too bad your adversary also has access to historical sources to fill in what you left out. That must suck to be buried that deeply.

Thanks for suggesting we define 'moron'....but far simpler would be you posting your picture.


KKK and every iteration of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship is attributable to one party and one party only: the Democrat Party.

Fact is, arguably the most popular former President is Bill 'the rapist/racist' Clinton....
Democrat...and racist his entire political life.


Did you vote for the racist, old timer?





You'd be well on the road to shedding your well deserved appellation, "moron," if you memorize the following:

· " The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the Republicans in congress and by 23% of the Democrats in congress.

· Not one Democrat either in the House or the Senate voted for the 14th amendment declaring that former slaves were full citizens of the state in which they lived and were therefore entitled to all the rights and privileges of any other citizen in that state.

· Not a single one of the 56 Democrats in Congress voted for the 15th amendment that granted explicit voting rights to black Americans.

· In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.

· George Wallace was a Democrat.

· Bull Connor was a Democrat.

· In the 19th century, Democrats prevented Black Americans from going to public school.

· In the 20th and 21st century Democrats prevented Black Americans trapped in failing schools from choosing a better school. In fact Democrats voted against the bill by 99%.

· Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, grandfather clauses, Literacy tests, white only primaries, and physical violence all came from the Democratic Party.

· Between 1882 and 1964, 4,743 individuals were lynched. 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites. Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and Democrats successfully blocked those bills."
http://frederickdouglassrepublican.com/did-you-know/

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

But, the most nasty thing on this forum isn't a Racist, but rather an anti-Racist named Unkotare.

Polish Nazi's feelings are hurt.

What's your profession, besides being a brutish anti-Racist fail-troll?

You don't seem to work, or do much of anything.... Because all day you're here.

Which seems to be the same as here, you don't debate, or bring anything up worthwhile..

Polish Nazi is curious.

I'm not a Nazi, as I mentioned before to you specifically I'm anti-German, and therefor can't be a Nazi.

You don't get anything do you?

You've claimed to be a Fascist...which makes you only slightly different than any of these other totalitarians:
Communists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives or Socialists.


And worthy of exactly the same disgust.

Fascism is necessary for a socially Conservative environment, and to secure nationhood.

The Capitalist individualist says that it's the individual freedom of Capitalists to hire illegal immigrants for cheap labor, to support Feminism for cheap labor, that outsourcing jobs is individual freedom, and that it's also the individual freedom for Hollywood, academia, and media Jews to push Liberalism into the mainstream.

You, and your Republican ilk have no real solutions, your solution is to do nothing, which allows Liberalism to fester.

 

[Pogo]

KKK and every iteration of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship is attributable to one party and one party only: the Democrat Party.

Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party" so there's not even a point made here.

Again as already noted earlier ---- it's instructive that the most fatally flawed partisan hacks insist we MUST take the name of the NSDAP as untouchable gospel and therefore "socialist", while simultaneously ass-uming the authority to take the name of the Democratic Party as some kind of play-doh to twist into whatever one wants. But hey, what's a fallacy orgy without the participation of good ol' Double Standard.

Slavery has a sorry history of thousands of years on every continent, long long LONG before there were political parties or a nation here. The transAtlantic version has existed for some 480 years, again long long LONG before there were parties, a country, or English speakers here. And further ----------- slavery is a social construct, like FGM, and has nothing to do with political philosophies.

Fun fact: Martin van Buren, who organized Andrew Jackson's loose support network into the political party that still exists today much to the challenge of those who can't spell it, also ran for President on the Free Soil ticket. That was a single-issue (Abolition) party before Republicans existed

 

[PoliticalChic]

KKK and every iteration of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship is attributable to one party and one party only: the Democrat Party.

Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party" so there's not even a point made here.

Again as already noted earlier ---- it's instructive that the most fatally flawed partisan hacks insist we MUST take the name of the NSDAP as untouchable gospel and therefore "socialist", while simultaneously ass-uming the authority to take the name of the Democratic Party as some kind of play-doh to twist into whatever one wants. But hey, what's a fallacy orgy without the participation of good ol' Double Standard.

Slavery has a sorry history of thousands of years on every continent, long long LONG before there were political parties or a nation here. The transAtlantic version has existed for some 480 years, again long long LONG before there were parties, a country, or English speakers here. And further ----------- slavery is a social construct, like FGM, and has nothing to do with political philosophies.

Fun fact: Martin van Buren, who organized Andrew Jackson's loose support network into the political party that still exists today much to the challenge of those who can't spell it, also ran for President on the Free Soil ticket. That was a single-issue (Abolition) party before Republicans existed

"Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party"

This is the best obfuscation you can do?????

So....nothing here you can deny????


" The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the Republicans in congress and by 23% of the Democrats in congress.

· Not one Democrat either in the House or the Senate voted for the 14th amendment declaring that former slaves were full citizens of the state in which they lived and were therefore entitled to all the rights and privileges of any other citizen in that state.

· Not a single one of the 56 Democrats in Congress voted for the 15th amendment that granted explicit voting rights to black Americans.

· In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.

· George Wallace was a Democrat.

· Bull Connor was a Democrat.

· In the 19th century, Democrats prevented Black Americans from going to public school.

· In the 20th and 21st century Democrats prevented Black Americans trapped in failing schools from choosing a better school. In fact Democrats voted against the bill by 99%.

· Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, grandfather clauses, Literacy tests, white only primaries, and physical violence all came from the Democratic Party.

· Between 1882 and 1964, 4,743 individuals were lynched. 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites. Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and Democrats successfully blocked those bills."
http://frederickdouglassrepublican.com/did-you-know/



Now....you gotta admit.....you're really a moron.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

KKK and every iteration of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship is attributable to one party and one party only: the Democrat Party.

Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party" so there's not even a point made here.

Again as already noted earlier ---- it's instructive that the most fatally flawed partisan hacks insist we MUST take the name of the NSDAP as untouchable gospel and therefore "socialist", while simultaneously ass-uming the authority to take the name of the Democratic Party as some kind of play-doh to twist into whatever one wants. But hey, what's a fallacy orgy without the participation of good ol' Double Standard.

Slavery has a sorry history of thousands of years on every continent, long long LONG before there were political parties or a nation here. The transAtlantic version has existed for some 480 years, again long long LONG before there were parties, a country, or English speakers here. And further ----------- slavery is a social construct, like FGM, and has nothing to do with political philosophies.

Fun fact: Martin van Buren, who organized Andrew Jackson's loose support network into the political party that still exists today much to the challenge of those who can't spell it, also ran for President on the Free Soil ticket. That was a single-issue (Abolition) party before Republicans existed

"Number one, there's no such thing as "the Democrat Party"

This is the best obfuscation you can do?????

So....nothing here you can deny????


" The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the Republicans in congress and by 23% of the Democrats in congress.

· Not one Democrat either in the House or the Senate voted for the 14th amendment declaring that former slaves were full citizens of the state in which they lived and were therefore entitled to all the rights and privileges of any other citizen in that state.

· Not a single one of the 56 Democrats in Congress voted for the 15th amendment that granted explicit voting rights to black Americans.

· In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.

· George Wallace was a Democrat.

· Bull Connor was a Democrat.

· In the 19th century, Democrats prevented Black Americans from going to public school.

· In the 20th and 21st century Democrats prevented Black Americans trapped in failing schools from choosing a better school. In fact Democrats voted against the bill by 99%.

· Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, grandfather clauses, Literacy tests, white only primaries, and physical violence all came from the Democratic Party.

· Between 1882 and 1964, 4,743 individuals were lynched. 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites. Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and Democrats successfully blocked those bills."
http://frederickdouglassrepublican.com/did-you-know/



Now....you gotta admit.....you're really a moron.

Before FDR, Democrats, and Republicans were both uber-Capitalist, but Democrats were actually more socially Conservative.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Perhaps a working definition of "moron" might be trotting the same disingenuous bullshit out on an internet message board after it's been shot full of holes, and somehow "this" time expecting different results...

As in:

2. Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425

· " The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the Republicans in congress and by 23% of the Democrats in congress.

QUOTE]
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What about the 14th Amendment by Republicans which allows any third-World riff-raff born in the U.S.A to be automatic U.S citizens?

I think that's the Anchor Baby Amendment.

I wonder who's more against this, modern Democrats, or modern Republicans?

 

[Pogo]

· In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.

WRONG.
The year was 1865, the place was the law office of Thomas Jones at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee, and the founders were six twentysomething ex-Confederate War veterans, to wit: Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, Richard Reed, Frank McCord, James Crowe and Calvin Jones (son of the building's owner who was housesitting while his parents were away). NONE of these six had any known political affiliations or activities. Nor were there any going on in 1865 Tennessee mere months after the War in a state which would not be admitted back into the union until the following year.

Go ahead --- just try to prove me wrong.

· George Wallace was a Democrat.

· Bull Connor was a Democrat.

Virtually the entire white South were Democrats. Stetson Kennedy was a Democrat.. Ellis Arnall was a Democrat. Oscar Underwood was a Democrat. Huey Long was a Democrat. Jack Walton was a Democrat. Lyndon Johnson was a Democrat. All of them opposed the Klan, and in this list all were Southerners. Jim Folsom was a Democrat too. His anti-Klan masking law was recently posted on these pages in connection with "Antifa" arrests.

Matter of fact after a certain point midway through the 20th century, virtually the entire black South was and still are Democrats too. Such as attorney and state senator Figures in this story: The Woman who Beat the Klan

On the other hand Ed Jackson was a Republican. Clarence Morley was a Republican. George Baker was a Republican. David Duke still is a Republican. Owen Brewster was a Republican opposed by elements in his own party (see Maine above). All of them got elected into office with Klan backing, as Governors, Senators, a Congressman and a Mayor.

Matter of fact virtually the entire state government of Indiana was both Republican and Klan, until this went down---

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NONE of which leads us to any conclusion without employing a Composition Fallacy. Too bad you're too damned stupid to understand what that means.