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The emotional hemophiliacs lost huge on Saturday........thankfully for the rest of us. Always have had the political IQ of a small soap dish.
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So, what is the ratio?
If there are 300 people in the night club, do you need X number of guards per 50,75,100 people?
If there are 20,000 square feet in the night club, do you need x number of guards per 5,000, 7,500, 10,000 square feet?
No angle here…just wondering if there is an actual study out there that gives security recommendations based on the size of the venue or based on the size of the crowd.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
When has that ever happened?
waco, Twin Peaks restaurant.
So, what is the ratio?
If there are 300 people in the night club, do you need X number of guards per 50,75,100 people?
If there are 20,000 square feet in the night club, do you need x number of guards per 5,000, 7,500, 10,000 square feet?
No angle here…just wondering if there is an actual study out there that gives security recommendations based on the size of the venue or based on the size of the crowd.
See how the far left can not admit that their failed "gun free" zones do not work?
So, what is the ratio?
If there are 300 people in the night club, do you need X number of guards per 50,75,100 people?
If there are 20,000 square feet in the night club, do you need x number of guards per 5,000, 7,500, 10,000 square feet?
No angle here…just wondering if there is an actual study out there that gives security recommendations based on the size of the venue or based on the size of the crowd.
See how the far left can not admit that their failed "gun free" zones do not work?
The upcoming Republican National Convention will be a "gun free" zone. What's up with that...?
So, what is the ratio?
If there are 300 people in the night club, do you need X number of guards per 50,75,100 people?
If there are 20,000 square feet in the night club, do you need x number of guards per 5,000, 7,500, 10,000 square feet?
No angle here…just wondering if there is an actual study out there that gives security recommendations based on the size of the venue or based on the size of the crowd.
See how the far left can not admit that their failed "gun free" zones do not work?
The upcoming Republican National Convention will be a "gun free" zone. What's up with that...?
See how the far left tries to connect dots to things that do not exist?
They like to try and compare things that are not even close to one another and think they are making some valid point.
But then again this far left drone is blindly following their faith.
So, what is the ratio?
If there are 300 people in the night club, do you need X number of guards per 50,75,100 people?
If there are 20,000 square feet in the night club, do you need x number of guards per 5,000, 7,500, 10,000 square feet?
No angle here…just wondering if there is an actual study out there that gives security recommendations based on the size of the venue or based on the size of the crowd.
See how the far left can not admit that their failed "gun free" zones do not work?
The upcoming Republican National Convention will be a "gun free" zone. What's up with that...?
See how the far left tries to connect dots to things that do not exist?
They like to try and compare things that are not even close to one another and think they are making some valid point.
But then again this far left drone is blindly following their faith.
Funny to watch NaziCon twist and spin.
A head shot might not even be necessary.Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.
Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.
The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.
When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
There is also the high likelihood of a terrorist perpetrating such an act will be wearing full body armor. The "good" citizen would have to be a crack shot on most likely a moving target. Head shots are rare under those circumstances. Unless your "pistol has a laser pointer attached or a scope, going up against the AR15 is stupid. The terrorist was trained with weapons. Your "good" citizen would also need the kind of close in combat training necessary.
Just sayin...
Full body armor is rare, expensive and likely to attract FBI attention and depending on how "Full" could tip off security or others that you are about to do something.
AND still does not cover everything.
Head shots at 10 or 20 feet are not that "rare".
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
When has that ever happened?
waco, Twin Peaks restaurant.
That was a gang fight. Try again.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
When has that ever happened?
waco, Twin Peaks restaurant.
That was a gang fight. Try again.
The allegation was "a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark".
The question was "When has that ever happened?"
It happened at Twin Peaks in Waco, TX.
Examine the widely distributed video of the incident for proof.
Certainly, you're not alleging that only gang members were present; are you?
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
A head shot might not even be necessary.Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.
Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.
The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.
When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
There is also the high likelihood of a terrorist perpetrating such an act will be wearing full body armor. The "good" citizen would have to be a crack shot on most likely a moving target. Head shots are rare under those circumstances. Unless your "pistol has a laser pointer attached or a scope, going up against the AR15 is stupid. The terrorist was trained with weapons. Your "good" citizen would also need the kind of close in combat training necessary.
Just sayin...
Full body armor is rare, expensive and likely to attract FBI attention and depending on how "Full" could tip off security or others that you are about to do something.
AND still does not cover everything.
Head shots at 10 or 20 feet are not that "rare".
Getting hit by a .357, .40, or .45, even with body armor + trauma plate, is going to HURT. Like getting bashed by a baseball bat kind of hurt.
Something like that would likely put someone out of action for at least a few seconds - seconds that could be used to either make an escape or close in to disarm or otherwise subdue.
I never said that anyone would "react like James Bond". I was responding to Correll regarding the necessity of head shots where body armor was involved. The topic of Hollywood was neither expressed nor implied.A head shot might not even be necessary.I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.
Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.
The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.
When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
There is also the high likelihood of a terrorist perpetrating such an act will be wearing full body armor. The "good" citizen would have to be a crack shot on most likely a moving target. Head shots are rare under those circumstances. Unless your "pistol has a laser pointer attached or a scope, going up against the AR15 is stupid. The terrorist was trained with weapons. Your "good" citizen would also need the kind of close in combat training necessary.
Just sayin...
Full body armor is rare, expensive and likely to attract FBI attention and depending on how "Full" could tip off security or others that you are about to do something.
AND still does not cover everything.
Head shots at 10 or 20 feet are not that "rare".
Getting hit by a .357, .40, or .45, even with body armor + trauma plate, is going to HURT. Like getting bashed by a baseball bat kind of hurt.
Something like that would likely put someone out of action for at least a few seconds - seconds that could be used to either make an escape or close in to disarm or otherwise subdue.
People in bad situations don't react like James Bond. Many freeze. Many just lose their minds and just completely tune out. Only one in a hundred have the where with all to run TOO danger. I doubt if any of those types are homosexuals. Stop trying to view the world like in a Hollywood action movie. Average people can't afford to have stunt doubles follow them around to do the action shots.
I never said that anyone would "react like James Bond". I was responding to Correll regarding the necessity of head shots where body armor was involved. The topic of Hollywood was neither expressed nor implied.A head shot might not even be necessary.Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
There is also the high likelihood of a terrorist perpetrating such an act will be wearing full body armor. The "good" citizen would have to be a crack shot on most likely a moving target. Head shots are rare under those circumstances. Unless your "pistol has a laser pointer attached or a scope, going up against the AR15 is stupid. The terrorist was trained with weapons. Your "good" citizen would also need the kind of close in combat training necessary.
Just sayin...
Full body armor is rare, expensive and likely to attract FBI attention and depending on how "Full" could tip off security or others that you are about to do something.
AND still does not cover everything.
Head shots at 10 or 20 feet are not that "rare".
Getting hit by a .357, .40, or .45, even with body armor + trauma plate, is going to HURT. Like getting bashed by a baseball bat kind of hurt.
Something like that would likely put someone out of action for at least a few seconds - seconds that could be used to either make an escape or close in to disarm or otherwise subdue.
People in bad situations don't react like James Bond. Many freeze. Many just lose their minds and just completely tune out. Only one in a hundred have the where with all to run TOO danger. I doubt if any of those types are homosexuals. Stop trying to view the world like in a Hollywood action movie. Average people can't afford to have stunt doubles follow them around to do the action shots.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.
Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.
The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.
When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
