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No, that does NOT seem to be the reason. The reason goes to intent. To what the census is. It is the count of the American population. That does not include non-Americans.it’s a matter of intent. For example, it is not illegal to ask about race or ethnicity on a job application. But discriminating on the basis of race is. So if the reason for asking is to discriminate, then asking is illegal because of the intent.
In the case if the Census, we now have the American Community Survey which is legally part of the Census. It asks many questions which were previously part of the long form Census questionnaire. No questions beyond existence are constitutionally required.
Therefore, there is no statistical need for the question to be on the main form. What then is the reason for asking? The reason seems to be to intentionally achieve an undercount of Hispanic residents. And that is clearly an unconstitutional purpose.
According to the Constitution, it is only citizens who are to be included. Why would anyone want non-citizens to be included ? So they can increase Democrat representation and votes ? Yup.Yes, that is who was allowed to vote back then, but is not who was counted for the apportionment of representatives.
According to the Constitution, it is only citizens who are to be included. Why would anyone want non-citizens to be included ? So they can increase Democrat representation and votes ? Yup.Yes, that is who was allowed to vote back then, but is not who was counted for the apportionment of representatives.
Late date.........you know how long it takes an issue to get to the Supreme Court........LOLThe citizenship question has been asked many times in prior censuses, even as recent as 2000, therefore it is NOT illegal and needs to be included. If it was unconstitutional it would have been removed and documented previously. Trump needs to add it and deal with the legal ramifications later.
Nobody said it was either illegal nor unconstitutional. What the SCOTUS said is that the Admin did not give sufficient cause to add the question at this late date and did not justify the drop in response rate that even the Admin admits will occur should the question be added.
I do love the fact you think the POTUS should ignore the law and just do what the hell ever he wants...shows once again that you are living in the wrong country.
They are looking at rewording the dang question and position...........the real dang question is why the hell was it cool to do this in 2000 and suddenly an OUTRAGE.Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census
The decision comes days after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question.
There will not be a question asking about citizenship on the 2020 census, the Trump administration said Tuesday.
The decision comes less than a week after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question, saying it did not provide an adequate explanation for the addition.
“We can confirm that the decision has been made to print the 2020 Decennial Census questionnaire without a citizenship question, and that the printer has been instructed to begin the printing process,” Kate Bailey, a Justice Department attorney, wrote to lawyers for the plaintiffs challenging the addition of the question.
Kelly Laco, a Justice Department spokeswoman, confirmed in an email to HuffPost there would not be a citizenship question on the 2020 census.
Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census
Great news! Now everyone can be counted.
You Tards and your FAKE NEWS.....
It is not fake news, you are fake news.
Late date.........you know how long it takes an issue to get to the Supreme Court........LOL
They are looking at rewording the dang question and position...........the real dang question is why the hell was it cool to do this in 2000 and suddenly an OUTRAGE.Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census
The decision comes days after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question.
There will not be a question asking about citizenship on the 2020 census, the Trump administration said Tuesday.
The decision comes less than a week after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question, saying it did not provide an adequate explanation for the addition.
“We can confirm that the decision has been made to print the 2020 Decennial Census questionnaire without a citizenship question, and that the printer has been instructed to begin the printing process,” Kate Bailey, a Justice Department attorney, wrote to lawyers for the plaintiffs challenging the addition of the question.
Kelly Laco, a Justice Department spokeswoman, confirmed in an email to HuffPost there would not be a citizenship question on the 2020 census.
Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census
Great news! Now everyone can be counted.
You Tards and your FAKE NEWS.....
It is not fake news, you are fake news.
OMFG did you see what Trump did...............from TDS wankers who ...........low and behold you are defending their positions again. LOL
Oh give me a break with that wind bagged excuse. How long does it take to add the dang question in the modern age......About 5 minutes........They have printed the dang thing out yet and the Census isn't til 2020.Late date.........you know how long it takes an issue to get to the Supreme Court........LOL
Yes, late date. I am not talking about the court date, I am talking about idea to include the question. Every bit of the census is planned out and tested for years to get the maximum participation and accuracy. The questions are worded and reworded based upon how test groups answer them. The order of the questions, the number of questions and even the spacing of them on the paper is planned down to the last tiny detail.
By the time Trump choose to add this question there was no time to do any of that. Even his own Admin admits adding the question would lower response rates.
The dang question was on the Census in 2000. It was question #13.They are looking at rewording the dang question and position...........the real dang question is why the hell was it cool to do this in 2000 and suddenly an OUTRAGE.Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census
The decision comes days after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question.
There will not be a question asking about citizenship on the 2020 census, the Trump administration said Tuesday.
The decision comes less than a week after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question, saying it did not provide an adequate explanation for the addition.
“We can confirm that the decision has been made to print the 2020 Decennial Census questionnaire without a citizenship question, and that the printer has been instructed to begin the printing process,” Kate Bailey, a Justice Department attorney, wrote to lawyers for the plaintiffs challenging the addition of the question.
Kelly Laco, a Justice Department spokeswoman, confirmed in an email to HuffPost there would not be a citizenship question on the 2020 census.
Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census
Great news! Now everyone can be counted.
You Tards and your FAKE NEWS.....
It is not fake news, you are fake news.
OMFG did you see what Trump did...............from TDS wankers who ...........low and behold you are defending their positions again. LOL
To do what in 2000?
The dang question was on the Census in 2000. It was question #13.They are looking at rewording the dang question and position...........the real dang question is why the hell was it cool to do this in 2000 and suddenly an OUTRAGE.Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census
The decision comes days after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question.
There will not be a question asking about citizenship on the 2020 census, the Trump administration said Tuesday.
The decision comes less than a week after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question, saying it did not provide an adequate explanation for the addition.
“We can confirm that the decision has been made to print the 2020 Decennial Census questionnaire without a citizenship question, and that the printer has been instructed to begin the printing process,” Kate Bailey, a Justice Department attorney, wrote to lawyers for the plaintiffs challenging the addition of the question.
Kelly Laco, a Justice Department spokeswoman, confirmed in an email to HuffPost there would not be a citizenship question on the 2020 census.
Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census
Great news! Now everyone can be counted.
You Tards and your FAKE NEWS.....
It is not fake news, you are fake news.
OMFG did you see what Trump did...............from TDS wankers who ...........low and behold you are defending their positions again. LOL
To do what in 2000?
Now suddenly asking it.............IS EVIL............this is about them trying to get more reps and nothing more. All their outrage is BS ...........
I posted the dang link in this thread .......so did someone else..........Go to the dang Census site for yourself or go back and read this thread.The dang question was on the Census in 2000. It was question #13.They are looking at rewording the dang question and position...........the real dang question is why the hell was it cool to do this in 2000 and suddenly an OUTRAGE.You Tards and your FAKE NEWS.....
It is not fake news, you are fake news.
OMFG did you see what Trump did...............from TDS wankers who ...........low and behold you are defending their positions again. LOL
To do what in 2000?
Now suddenly asking it.............IS EVIL............this is about them trying to get more reps and nothing more. All their outrage is BS ...........
Liar.
Where does it say that?According to the Constitution, it is only citizens who are to be included. Why would anyone want non-citizens to be included ? So they can increase Democrat representation and votes ? Yup.Yes, that is who was allowed to vote back then, but is not who was counted for the apportionment of representatives.
Because that’s how it’s written in the Constitution. And the can’t vote argument is ridiculous: children can’t vote, women couldn’t vote for most of our history, resident aliens csn’t vote. So clearly ability to vote has never been a consideration for representation.Looks like some deep state flunkies jumped the gun:
If a person selects as non-citizen it still counts them in the count. It doesn't deny anyone anything.
What a whiny little twat you are.
The point is that they won't answer it and won't fill out the form. Which you know this and want it to happen. You know that's the reason why trump wanted to put it on the census in the first place and you wanted the results it would produce.
You people know you can't win in an honest election so you cheat. Then lie about your cheating. This time your lies were exposed and one conservative on that court didn't like being lied to. He ruled correctly and in favor of the constitution and law. Now you're all upset you didn't get your way.
Too bad. Stop acting like a little baby and accept the ruling. You won't be able to cheat and rig the census in your favor.
Justice prevailed and you are very upset about being denied the opportunity to cheat.
You can call me all the names you want. It just shows you know you've lost the argument and have nothing substantial to contribute.
I got the best of you so you call me names. Which is typical for a far right radical extremist like yourself.
You can whine, cry, stomp your feet and have all the temper tantrums you want. It won't make any difference.
YOU LOST this one. Deal with it.
Wow, i never knew assumption and guessing were part of the law....
So 50 years ago when the question was on the census it wasn't justice?
Where in the constitution or census law does it say the Commerce department has to justify a question?
If a question is used to deny citizens representation then it runs afoul of several laws.
It doesn't count towards the count.
The question of people here illegally counting towards representation is another question.
Why should illegals, who can't vote, give citizens in one State more vote-gravity than another?
Post 67.......and 61 you leftist liar. LOL
2000 - History - U.S. Census Bureau
I posted that on 67...........
Guess you missed the 2 posts proving this is BS.
And on post 61 another poster put the form upPost 67.......and 61 you leftist liar. LOL
2000 - History - U.S. Census Bureau
I posted that on 67...........
Guess you missed the 2 posts proving this is BS.
Perhaps you should have read the very first sentence...
The 2000 census short form asked eight questions to all respondents. The long form, which combined housing and population questions into a single questionnaire, asked an additional 45 questions, All respondents were asked Questions 1 - 6 and Question 33. The 2000 census collected the following information, listed by question number:
The long form is known as the American Community Survey and it will still have the citizenship question just like always.
you are just not very bright, are you?
The founders were OK without women voting, blacks voting, Indians voting.....why would they care about illegals?Because that’s how it’s written in the Constitution. And the can’t vote argument is ridiculous: children can’t vote, women couldn’t vote for most of our history, resident aliens csn’t vote. So clearly ability to vote has never been a consideration for representation.Looks like some deep state flunkies jumped the gun:
The point is that they won't answer it and won't fill out the form. Which you know this and want it to happen. You know that's the reason why trump wanted to put it on the census in the first place and you wanted the results it would produce.
You people know you can't win in an honest election so you cheat. Then lie about your cheating. This time your lies were exposed and one conservative on that court didn't like being lied to. He ruled correctly and in favor of the constitution and law. Now you're all upset you didn't get your way.
Too bad. Stop acting like a little baby and accept the ruling. You won't be able to cheat and rig the census in your favor.
Justice prevailed and you are very upset about being denied the opportunity to cheat.
You can call me all the names you want. It just shows you know you've lost the argument and have nothing substantial to contribute.
I got the best of you so you call me names. Which is typical for a far right radical extremist like yourself.
You can whine, cry, stomp your feet and have all the temper tantrums you want. It won't make any difference.
YOU LOST this one. Deal with it.
Wow, i never knew assumption and guessing were part of the law....
So 50 years ago when the question was on the census it wasn't justice?
Where in the constitution or census law does it say the Commerce department has to justify a question?
If a question is used to deny citizens representation then it runs afoul of several laws.
It doesn't count towards the count.
The question of people here illegally counting towards representation is another question.
Why should illegals, who can't vote, give citizens in one State more vote-gravity than another?
Now all citizens can vote, and I doubt the founders ever thought that there would be people here for years or even decades that came here without some formal method of entry.
And on post 61 another poster put the form upPost 67.......and 61 you leftist liar. LOL
2000 - History - U.S. Census Bureau
I posted that on 67...........
Guess you missed the 2 posts proving this is BS.
Perhaps you should have read the very first sentence...
The 2000 census short form asked eight questions to all respondents. The long form, which combined housing and population questions into a single questionnaire, asked an additional 45 questions, All respondents were asked Questions 1 - 6 and Question 33. The 2000 census collected the following information, listed by question number:
The long form is known as the American Community Survey and it will still have the citizenship question just like always.
you are just not very bright, are you?
You dodging my questrion.............
Why the hell should the illegals here be allowed to count towards the number of reps in Congress.
And yet that question was asked now wasn't it.And on post 61 another poster put the form upPost 67.......and 61 you leftist liar. LOL
2000 - History - U.S. Census Bureau
I posted that on 67...........
Guess you missed the 2 posts proving this is BS.
Perhaps you should have read the very first sentence...
The 2000 census short form asked eight questions to all respondents. The long form, which combined housing and population questions into a single questionnaire, asked an additional 45 questions, All respondents were asked Questions 1 - 6 and Question 33. The 2000 census collected the following information, listed by question number:
The long form is known as the American Community Survey and it will still have the citizenship question just like always.
you are just not very bright, are you?
You dodging my questrion.............
Why the hell should the illegals here be allowed to count towards the number of reps in Congress.
Yes, that was the American Community Survey, which is ran concurrent to the Census during census years. You will get one or the other in the mail, but the vast majority will only get the 8 question Census. The ACS only goes out to about 3% of the country.
