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When someone repeatedly punches you in the face...the quickest way to make them stop doing so is to punch them back. What you can't seem to grasp is that Trump isn't doing this without cause. The Chinese have been punching us in the face for decades. Trump is the first US President with the backbone to tell the Chinese that we will be punching them back if they continue to do so.
We loved China when all they represented was cheap labor with little oversight. Business is just pissed now that their deals selling out the country are now coming back to bite them.
I don't hate China. It's a competition and we've let them cheat. Now we're demanding that they play fair. My guess is that they'll stall for as long as they can...hoping that another spineless President is elected in the US and they can go back to doing what they did before. Another Trump term is their worst nightmare.
No, again, we played their long game when it benefited us and are now claiming that are cheating. You can not steal what was gave to you.
You do long term business with people because it's beneficial to all involved. We are China's largest trading partner. We buy what they make. In return we ask two things. That they play fair with currency manipulation...and that they stop ripping off our intellectual property! The people that have been "stealing" have been the Chinese! They buy a Caterpillar product that's been in development for years...steal the specs for it...and build an exact duplicate product that doesn't cost them a dime in R&D! That is theft! They've been doing it for years and they continue to do it...thumbing their noses at the international community.
That's not what happened. You act like there isn't a single person in a country of 1.5 billion that could not design a bulldozer.
And they shouldn’t be punished for being successful, or made to fund everyone.
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The more successful you are, the more the system has benefited you.
It is easy to be successful if you have enough capital to work with.
But without starting capital, it is impossible to succeed.
Whoa, slow down on that one, it's not impossible. Many of us started with nothing, worked those minimum wage jobs and dealt with all the political BS. If you feel it's impossible you are guaranteed to not succeed.
Works for some but it will not work for tens of millions. There are not tens of millions of opportunities out there.
Oh, bullshit! Get your lazy ass off the couch...get a job...work hard...learn new skills...take chances...be a leader! There are more opportunities in this country than on any other country on planet earth! You don't want opportunity though...you want someone to GIVE you stuff!
There are, not for tens of millions. Even after noting there is not you can't stop yourself.
The more successful you are, the more the system has benefited you.
It is easy to be successful if you have enough capital to work with.
But without starting capital, it is impossible to succeed.
Whoa, slow down on that one, it's not impossible. Many of us started with nothing, worked those minimum wage jobs and dealt with all the political BS. If you feel it's impossible you are guaranteed to not succeed.
Works for some but it will not work for tens of millions. There are not tens of millions of opportunities out there.
Oh, bullshit! Get your lazy ass off the couch...get a job...work hard...learn new skills...take chances...be a leader! There are more opportunities in this country than on any other country on planet earth! You don't want opportunity though...you want someone to GIVE you stuff!
There are, not for tens of millions. Even after noting there is not you can't stop yourself.
The reason that we need to build walls to keep people OUT is that there ARE literally millions of opportunities in this country! This claim that there isn't...is nothing more than a liberal talking point...meant to placate the millions of losers like yourself that never even tried to "succeed"!
We loved China when all they represented was cheap labor with little oversight. Business is just pissed now that their deals selling out the country are now coming back to bite them.
I don't hate China. It's a competition and we've let them cheat. Now we're demanding that they play fair. My guess is that they'll stall for as long as they can...hoping that another spineless President is elected in the US and they can go back to doing what they did before. Another Trump term is their worst nightmare.
No, again, we played their long game when it benefited us and are now claiming that are cheating. You can not steal what was gave to you.
You do long term business with people because it's beneficial to all involved. We are China's largest trading partner. We buy what they make. In return we ask two things. That they play fair with currency manipulation...and that they stop ripping off our intellectual property! The people that have been "stealing" have been the Chinese! They buy a Caterpillar product that's been in development for years...steal the specs for it...and build an exact duplicate product that doesn't cost them a dime in R&D! That is theft! They've been doing it for years and they continue to do it...thumbing their noses at the international community.
That's not what happened. You act like there isn't a single person in a country of 1.5 billion that could not design a bulldozer.
Why would you spend money to design a bulldozer when you can just steal someone's work who HAS designed one? China's been ripping off the West's intellectual property for decades now! Only someone as clueless as you are doesn't know that!
Currencies manipulated = bad.
Taxing 70% for rich=good?
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Except that since the wealthy can get themselves paid in stock dividends, they typically only pay the 15% capital gains rate.
The wealthy know all the loopholes and how to use them, so they do not pay much in taxes.
WTF, that's not a loophole, and that same "loophole" is available to everyone.
No, that is silly.
You have to be a top exec or on the board of directors to be able to get yourself paid in stock options or dividends instead of a cash salary.
No ordinary worker is allowed to do that.
The only way the IRS will let you do that is if you are an investor in the company, and not just an employee.
Currencies manipulated = bad.
Taxing 70% for rich=good?
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Except that since the wealthy can get themselves paid in stock dividends, they typically only pay the 15% capital gains rate.
The wealthy know all the loopholes and how to use them, so they do not pay much in taxes.
WTF, that's not a loophole, and that same "loophole" is available to everyone.
No, that is silly.
You have to be a top exec or on the board of directors to be able to get yourself paid in stock options or dividends instead of a cash salary.
No ordinary worker is allowed to do that.
The only way the IRS will let you do that is if you are an investor in the company, and not just an employee.
So we've gone from stock dividends to stock options?
My intent was to write options originally, but dividends also are only available to the wealthy, who have purchased stock.
So most people can not get their income taxed at the 15% capital gains rates that the wealthy can.
If trump was bad for America and Americans, Democrats would support him.He wants to weaken America, We have all known this all along.
Currencies manipulated = bad.
Taxing 70% for rich=good?
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Except that since the wealthy can get themselves paid in stock dividends, they typically only pay the 15% capital gains rate.
The wealthy know all the loopholes and how to use them, so they do not pay much in taxes.
WTF, that's not a loophole, and that same "loophole" is available to everyone.
And they shouldn’t be punished for being successful, or made to fund everyone.
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The more successful you are, the more the system has benefited you.
It is easy to be successful if you have enough capital to work with.
But without starting capital, it is impossible to succeed.
I know what tariffs are and what they do. I don’t learn my economics from the television I read booksit only increases on corporations that outsourced their production overseas it helps companies that stayed and produced their product in AmericaThey never met a tax on business they didn’t like until trump levied one. Problem is he levied a tax they don’t understand. Which is clear as crystal every time they discuss it.
You've read books? Really? Did they have a lot of pictures? I hate to break this to you but you are WOEFULLY uninformed when it comes to economics! What books on economics have you read? I'd be interested to know who it is that you got your woeful lack of knowledge from!
Says the guy that at one point argued that 870 Billion dollar stimulus didn't cause any growth, even in near term. Yep, it just vanished into thin air.
You mean the 870 Billion dollar stimulus designed to create jobs? The one that created so few jobs that the Obama Administration trotted out "Jobs Created Or Saved" to hide how bad it was? Is that the stimulus that you're referring to?
I don't hate China. It's a competition and we've let them cheat. Now we're demanding that they play fair. My guess is that they'll stall for as long as they can...hoping that another spineless President is elected in the US and they can go back to doing what they did before. Another Trump term is their worst nightmare.
No, again, we played their long game when it benefited us and are now claiming that are cheating. You can not steal what was gave to you.
You do long term business with people because it's beneficial to all involved. We are China's largest trading partner. We buy what they make. In return we ask two things. That they play fair with currency manipulation...and that they stop ripping off our intellectual property! The people that have been "stealing" have been the Chinese! They buy a Caterpillar product that's been in development for years...steal the specs for it...and build an exact duplicate product that doesn't cost them a dime in R&D! That is theft! They've been doing it for years and they continue to do it...thumbing their noses at the international community.
That's not what happened. You act like there isn't a single person in a country of 1.5 billion that could not design a bulldozer.
Why would you spend money to design a bulldozer when you can just steal someone's work who HAS designed one? China's been ripping off the West's intellectual property for decades now! Only someone as clueless as you are doesn't know that!
We gave it to them in exchange for cheap labor.
American businesses have been so desperate to use Chinese labor and get into their markets that they ignore red flags staring them right in their face.
How Caterpillar Got Bulldozed In China
I know what tariffs are and what they do. I don’t learn my economics from the television I read booksit only increases on corporations that outsourced their production overseas it helps companies that stayed and produced their product in America
You've read books? Really? Did they have a lot of pictures? I hate to break this to you but you are WOEFULLY uninformed when it comes to economics! What books on economics have you read? I'd be interested to know who it is that you got your woeful lack of knowledge from!
Says the guy that at one point argued that 870 Billion dollar stimulus didn't cause any growth, even in near term. Yep, it just vanished into thin air.
You mean the 870 Billion dollar stimulus designed to create jobs? The one that created so few jobs that the Obama Administration trotted out "Jobs Created Or Saved" to hide how bad it was? Is that the stimulus that you're referring to?
Yep. Thank you mr.economist for confirmation of your illiteracy on the subject.
And by the way, when are you publishing your surely groundbreaking paper on how to isolate "job saved" from "job created" for macroeconomic policy effects?
I don't hate China. It's a competition and we've let them cheat. Now we're demanding that they play fair. My guess is that they'll stall for as long as they can...hoping that another spineless President is elected in the US and they can go back to doing what they did before. Another Trump term is their worst nightmare.
No, again, we played their long game when it benefited us and are now claiming that are cheating. You can not steal what was gave to you.
You do long term business with people because it's beneficial to all involved. We are China's largest trading partner. We buy what they make. In return we ask two things. That they play fair with currency manipulation...and that they stop ripping off our intellectual property! The people that have been "stealing" have been the Chinese! They buy a Caterpillar product that's been in development for years...steal the specs for it...and build an exact duplicate product that doesn't cost them a dime in R&D! That is theft! They've been doing it for years and they continue to do it...thumbing their noses at the international community.
That's not what happened. You act like there isn't a single person in a country of 1.5 billion that could not design a bulldozer.
Were you going to describe some of the economics books that you've read? I'm dying to hear what's provided you with all of your knowledge on the subject! (eye roll)
Why would you spend money to design a bulldozer when you can just steal someone's work who HAS designed one? China's been ripping off the West's intellectual property for decades now! Only someone as clueless as you are doesn't know that!
We gave it to them in exchange for cheap labor.
American businesses have been so desperate to use Chinese labor and get into their markets that they ignore red flags staring them right in their face.
How Caterpillar Got Bulldozed In China
I know what tariffs are and what they do. I don’t learn my economics from the television I read books
You've read books? Really? Did they have a lot of pictures? I hate to break this to you but you are WOEFULLY uninformed when it comes to economics! What books on economics have you read? I'd be interested to know who it is that you got your woeful lack of knowledge from!
Says the guy that at one point argued that 870 Billion dollar stimulus didn't cause any growth, even in near term. Yep, it just vanished into thin air.
You mean the 870 Billion dollar stimulus designed to create jobs? The one that created so few jobs that the Obama Administration trotted out "Jobs Created Or Saved" to hide how bad it was? Is that the stimulus that you're referring to?
Yep. Thank you mr.economist for confirmation of your illiteracy on the subject.
And by the way, when are you publishing your surely groundbreaking paper on how to isolate "job saved" from "job created" for macroeconomic policy effects?
Job's saved is a made up number...Job's created is an actual number...you don't have to "isolate" the two.
Can you imagine how repubs would react if Obama had suggested something so retarded? Hell, you could write an entire book on the double standard of Obama and Trump called “If Obama had done that..”
Trump presses Fed to weaken dollar
Leave it to republicans to blindly defend this shit like anything he does.
Sounds like he couldn't afford the TDS medication with the weaker dollar.
You've read books? Really? Did they have a lot of pictures? I hate to break this to you but you are WOEFULLY uninformed when it comes to economics! What books on economics have you read? I'd be interested to know who it is that you got your woeful lack of knowledge from!
Says the guy that at one point argued that 870 Billion dollar stimulus didn't cause any growth, even in near term. Yep, it just vanished into thin air.
You mean the 870 Billion dollar stimulus designed to create jobs? The one that created so few jobs that the Obama Administration trotted out "Jobs Created Or Saved" to hide how bad it was? Is that the stimulus that you're referring to?
Yep. Thank you mr.economist for confirmation of your illiteracy on the subject.
And by the way, when are you publishing your surely groundbreaking paper on how to isolate "job saved" from "job created" for macroeconomic policy effects?
Job's saved is a made up number...Job's created is an actual number...you don't have to "isolate" the two.
You are an ignorant fool. Macroeconomic estimates CANNOT POSSIBLY SHOW if any given dollar of liquidity added into economy went to save or to create a job.
The only thing they estimate is the difference in employment with and without given policy effect. Be that difference from less people getting fired or more new positions created. There is absolutely no way to differentiate that.
Which EXACTLY WHY the language of "jobs created or saved" is the most accurate way to characterize the estimates.
Says the guy that at one point argued that 870 Billion dollar stimulus didn't cause any growth, even in near term. Yep, it just vanished into thin air.
You mean the 870 Billion dollar stimulus designed to create jobs? The one that created so few jobs that the Obama Administration trotted out "Jobs Created Or Saved" to hide how bad it was? Is that the stimulus that you're referring to?
Yep. Thank you mr.economist for confirmation of your illiteracy on the subject.
And by the way, when are you publishing your surely groundbreaking paper on how to isolate "job saved" from "job created" for macroeconomic policy effects?
Job's saved is a made up number...Job's created is an actual number...you don't have to "isolate" the two.
You are an ignorant fool. Macroeconomic estimates CANNOT POSSIBLY SHOW if any given dollar of liquidity added into economy went to save or to create a job.
The only thing they estimate is the difference in employment with and without given policy effect. Be that difference from less people getting fired or more new positions created. There is absolutely no way to differentiate that.
Which EXACTLY WHY the language of "jobs created or saved" is the most accurate way to characterize the estimates.
Are you kidding me? How can "Jobs created or saved" possibly be called "accurate" when you are literally making up the number from the jobs saved side of the equation with ZERO ability to quantify the number you've arrived at?
Jobs created is an actual number based on reporting from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. Jobs saved is a made up number...something that politicians use to hide how badly their economic policies have failed.
No, again, we played their long game when it benefited us and are now claiming that are cheating. You can not steal what was gave to you.
You do long term business with people because it's beneficial to all involved. We are China's largest trading partner. We buy what they make. In return we ask two things. That they play fair with currency manipulation...and that they stop ripping off our intellectual property! The people that have been "stealing" have been the Chinese! They buy a Caterpillar product that's been in development for years...steal the specs for it...and build an exact duplicate product that doesn't cost them a dime in R&D! That is theft! They've been doing it for years and they continue to do it...thumbing their noses at the international community.
That's not what happened. You act like there isn't a single person in a country of 1.5 billion that could not design a bulldozer.
Why would you spend money to design a bulldozer when you can just steal someone's work who HAS designed one? China's been ripping off the West's intellectual property for decades now! Only someone as clueless as you are doesn't know that!
We gave it to them in exchange for cheap labor.
American businesses have been so desperate to use Chinese labor and get into their markets that they ignore red flags staring them right in their face.
How Caterpillar Got Bulldozed In China
We "gave" them our intellectual property? Says who? They STOLE it! To the tune of as much as 600 Billion dollars in losses to American businesses!
You mean the 870 Billion dollar stimulus designed to create jobs? The one that created so few jobs that the Obama Administration trotted out "Jobs Created Or Saved" to hide how bad it was? Is that the stimulus that you're referring to?
Yep. Thank you mr.economist for confirmation of your illiteracy on the subject.
And by the way, when are you publishing your surely groundbreaking paper on how to isolate "job saved" from "job created" for macroeconomic policy effects?
Job's saved is a made up number...Job's created is an actual number...you don't have to "isolate" the two.
You are an ignorant fool. Macroeconomic estimates CANNOT POSSIBLY SHOW if any given dollar of liquidity added into economy went to save or to create a job.
The only thing they estimate is the difference in employment with and without given policy effect. Be that difference from less people getting fired or more new positions created. There is absolutely no way to differentiate that.
Which EXACTLY WHY the language of "jobs created or saved" is the most accurate way to characterize the estimates.
Are you kidding me? How can "Jobs created or saved" possibly be called "accurate" when you are literally making up the number from the jobs saved side of the equation with ZERO ability to quantify the number you've arrived at?
Jobs created is an actual number based on reporting from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. Jobs saved is a made up number...something that politicians use to hide how badly their economic policies have failed.
You completely do not understand what isolation of effect even entails and why simple topline job number change in economy by itself tells us right about nothing about policy effect.
Anyway, as you were mr.Economist.
You do long term business with people because it's beneficial to all involved. We are China's largest trading partner. We buy what they make. In return we ask two things. That they play fair with currency manipulation...and that they stop ripping off our intellectual property! The people that have been "stealing" have been the Chinese! They buy a Caterpillar product that's been in development for years...steal the specs for it...and build an exact duplicate product that doesn't cost them a dime in R&D! That is theft! They've been doing it for years and they continue to do it...thumbing their noses at the international community.
That's not what happened. You act like there isn't a single person in a country of 1.5 billion that could not design a bulldozer.
Why would you spend money to design a bulldozer when you can just steal someone's work who HAS designed one? China's been ripping off the West's intellectual property for decades now! Only someone as clueless as you are doesn't know that!
We gave it to them in exchange for cheap labor.
American businesses have been so desperate to use Chinese labor and get into their markets that they ignore red flags staring them right in their face.
How Caterpillar Got Bulldozed In China
We "gave" them our intellectual property? Says who? They STOLE it! To the tune of as much as 600 Billion dollars in losses to American businesses!
I'm not sure why people ask me to provide things I've provided many times in the past.
But much of China’s advancement is coming at the expense of American companies and workers. China has consistently required foreign businesses to share their intellectual property (IP) to operate in the Asian nation.
How China is Using America’s Own Technology Against Us
U.S. companies gave away the technology but now want us to believe they stole it.
