Trump decides the election is "rigged"

[occupied]

Fuck Donald Trump and anyone who tries to say he is a kind and generous man when he talks hatefully about everything I care about.

By which you are saying you are more interested in partisan loyalty than the issues.

No, I am saying that his half-hearted attempts to lure progressives to vote for him offends me deeply after how he talks about progressive issues. He actually thinks we are that stupid after being demonized by him for months. I do not like Hillary but I utterly despise Donald Trump and his fascist with-me-or-against-me attitude.

The things I listed have been his positions from the start of the campaign so for you to suggest he is only recently using them to "lure" you to his side shows you really have no interest in any of the issues and are simply a political partisan.

Quit talking crazy, we are all partisans here. The only people who are not are the wishy-washy swing voters both sides have to court to win. I have a great deal of interest in issues, as do all progressives, but in this case Donald Trump has purposely made himself the most serious political issue in the election.

Yes, to a progressive anything that disagrees with him is an issue. The tolerance...

Primarily it must be agreed that the progressive be sent your money via taxation. The primary plank of the scam of an ideology.

Hmmm, Your emperor wants to raise the deficit by 85% on a lousy trickle down economic plan. I guess with you socialism for billionaires and big business is acceptable? Hypocrite.

 

[Norman]

By which you are saying you are more interested in partisan loyalty than the issues.

No, I am saying that his half-hearted attempts to lure progressives to vote for him offends me deeply after how he talks about progressive issues. He actually thinks we are that stupid after being demonized by him for months. I do not like Hillary but I utterly despise Donald Trump and his fascist with-me-or-against-me attitude.

The things I listed have been his positions from the start of the campaign so for you to suggest he is only recently using them to "lure" you to his side shows you really have no interest in any of the issues and are simply a political partisan.

Quit talking crazy, we are all partisans here. The only people who are not are the wishy-washy swing voters both sides have to court to win. I have a great deal of interest in issues, as do all progressives, but in this case Donald Trump has purposely made himself the most serious political issue in the election.

Yes, to a progressive anything that disagrees with him is an issue. The tolerance...

Primarily it must be agreed that the progressive be sent your money via taxation. The primary plank of the scam of an ideology.

Hmmm, Your emperor wants to raise the deficit by 85% on a lousy trickle down economic plan. I guess with you socialism for billionaires and big business is acceptable? Hypocrite.

Since when have progressives cared about deficits? This is a new development, please enlighten us more!

Now if you actually believe Trump is going to raise the deficit more than Hillary... well... nice story. Hillary has special interest to pay.

 

[toomuchtime_]

And who decided to rig the election?

The DNC.

The leadership of the Democratic Party seem to have a low opinion of democracy and ethical behavior.

The DNC doesn't write the rules of elections. They can and do, however, write the rules about how their nominee is selected.

Only those who wish the election could be rigged in order to provide an excuse, at best, or a boogeyman at worst to hang Trump's defeat on.

We all know that without WH pressure Clinton would have been indicted and the election would already be over so it is not difficult to believe the Democrats are using WH influence to schedule the debates at times that will do the least damage to Clinton.

 

[toomuchtime_]

If it is just a waste of time, then why did Sanders and Clinton fight so hard about the number of debates during the primaries and why is Sanders still bitter about having so few? Do you think Sanders, Clinton, Wasserman Schultz and others are all stupid?

You will never see a progressive as the Democratic nominee because the whole nomination process is engineered to prevent it, and you will no more be able to "hold her feet to the fire" than you were able hold Bill's feet to the fire in 1996. The only way you will ever see a progressive get the nomination is by sitting out an election, go on strike as it were, to show the leadership they can't win without you. If progressives are more focused on issues than partisan loyalty as you claim, you should have no problem sitting out this election since Trump is more progressive on some issues than Clinton is.

For example, Trump wants to rescue the children of poor families from having to go to failed, violent schools by giving them federal school vouchers, but Clinton is firmly against doing anything for but complain. Trump's plan to stop illegal immigrants from Mexico and deport those who are already here, will free up millions of jobs for poor Americans and allow wages to rise. Clinton, of course, will only talk about poor people without doing anything about it. Similarly, Democrats were firmly against NAFTA when Bill Clinton colluded with Republicans to get it passed and by renegotiating this treaty and others, Trump will keep American jobs in America and perhaps be able to bring some back. Clinton will stick with Bill's historic mistake.

In terms of equal pay for women, that has been the rule in the Trump organization for decades and it presently has more women than men in executive positions despite the fact there are more men than woman who work there. Ivanka, who is Trump's most trusted adviser has made it her mission to provide paid leave to both men and women who are new parents and to provide amenities for women who have to bring their children to work. Since Trump has been willing to pay for all these things out of his own pocket, it is clear he will fight to make them realities in other American workplaces.

So you see you wouldn't be sacrificing any of you progressive principles by sitting out this election in order to show the leadership of the Democratic party they can't get along without you, and in some respects electing Trump is the more progressive choice.

Fuck Donald Trump and anyone who tries to say he is a kind and generous man when he talks hatefully about everything I care about.

By which you are saying you are more interested in partisan loyalty than the issues.

No, I am saying that his half-hearted attempts to lure progressives to vote for him offends me deeply after how he talks about progressive issues. He actually thinks we are that stupid after being demonized by him for months. I do not like Hillary but I utterly despise Donald Trump and his fascist with-me-or-against-me attitude.

The things I listed have been his positions from the start of the campaign so for you to suggest he is only recently using them to "lure" you to his side shows you really have no interest in any of the issues and are simply a political partisan.

Quit talking crazy, we are all partisans here. The only people who are not are the wishy-washy swing voters both sides have to court to win. I have a great deal of interest in issues, as do all progressives, but in this case Donald Trump has purposely made himself the most serious political issue in the election.

lol Give it up. You dismiss any discussion of the issues as irrelevant to how you will vote in every post. Not only do you clearly have no interest in the issues, you don't even seem to know or care what the progressive positions are on any of the issues.

 

[Nosmo King]

And who decided to rig the election?

The DNC.

The leadership of the Democratic Party seem to have a low opinion of democracy and ethical behavior.

The DNC doesn't write the rules of elections. They can and do, however, write the rules about how their nominee is selected.

Only those who wish the election could be rigged in order to provide an excuse, at best, or a boogeyman at worst to hang Trump's defeat on.

We all know that without WH pressure Clinton would have been indicted and the election would already be over so it is not difficult to believe the Democrats are using WH influence to schedule the debates at times that will do the least damage to Clinton.

You know nothing of the sort. You may assume it to be true, but you do not KNOW it so.

As for the debate schedule, what makes Tampa Bay vs. Arizona more important that the election of a president?

 

[g5000]

You can smell Trump's flop sweat. He's already making excuses for his loss.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Now that it's clear Donald Trump is losing, Mr. Trump has taken to attacking the election process itself. Although the election is nearly 3 months away "The Donald" has decided the entire electoral process, which has elected just as many Republicans as Democrats is "rigged against him" Donald Trump has no evidence of this whatsoever, nor has he made an effort to produce any. The general election in America is the most closely watched election in the world. The amount of verified voter fraud is less than 1/10th of 1%, Still, legions of his followers have blindly chosen to believe this nonsense rather than to find out for themselves. Maybe Republicans really are THAT dumb.


Donald Trump is wrong. Rigging an election is almost impossible.

We'll file that under "2000 election and Diebold and Hanging Chads."

 

[toomuchtime_]

And who decided to rig the election?

The DNC.

The leadership of the Democratic Party seem to have a low opinion of democracy and ethical behavior.

The DNC doesn't write the rules of elections. They can and do, however, write the rules about how their nominee is selected.

Only those who wish the election could be rigged in order to provide an excuse, at best, or a boogeyman at worst to hang Trump's defeat on.

We all know that without WH pressure Clinton would have been indicted and the election would already be over so it is not difficult to believe the Democrats are using WH influence to schedule the debates at times that will do the least damage to Clinton.

You know nothing of the sort. You may assume it to be true, but you do not KNOW it so.

As for the debate schedule, what makes Tampa Bay vs. Arizona more important that the election of a president?

There was clear enough evidence of intent to mishandle classified documents for an indictment and the FBI under questioning was unable to provide a clear explanation for why it recommended no indictment. Pressure like this can only come from the WH. The whole country knows that Hillary and the members of her staff who put these items on her call list should have been indicted for mishandling classified documents; the difference is some people care about it and some people don't.

Because Hillary showed herself to be a poor debater in 2008 and Wasserman Schultz tried to protect her against Sanders by limiting the number of debates in the primaries, and she again showed herself to be a poor debater against Sanders, the Democratic leadership, knowing months ago they were going to appoint Hillary the Party's nominee, sought to have the debates scheduled at times of low expected viewership, because they know when people get an honest look at her, they neither like her or trust her. Less deceit and artifice goes into trying to sell snake oil cures on the Internet than has gone into trying to sell Clinton to voters.

 

[sealybobo]

Now that it's clear Donald Trump is losing, Mr. Trump has taken to attacking the election process itself. Although the election is nearly 3 months away "The Donald" has decided the entire electoral process, which has elected just as many Republicans as Democrats is "rigged against him" Donald Trump has no evidence of this whatsoever, nor has he made an effort to produce any. The general election in America is the most closely watched election in the world. The amount of verified voter fraud is less than 1/10th of 1%, Still, legions of his followers have blindly chosen to believe this nonsense rather than to find out for themselves. Maybe Republicans really are THAT dumb.


Donald Trump is wrong. Rigging an election is almost impossible.

Trump has decided the only way he can lose is if it is stolen from him. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is warning his supporters that a victory in the November election is likely to be stolen from him. So he clearly sees things don’t look good for him.

That theory, that Democrats had committed widespread election fraud to win Ohio in 2012, was a favorite among republican conspiracy theorists after Obama’s re-election. To counter that, the state’s Republican secretary of state, Jon Husted, conducted an exhaustive investigation that found, out of 5.6 million votes cast, a total of 135 involved possible fraud. Most were instances of a person trying to vote twice, while 24 involved people registered to vote in Ohio and another state.

People who try to vote in 2 states tend to have homes in two different states. Most likely those were Romney votes.

 

[Rozman]

if Trump loses I wonder who will scream the loudest?
Trump or Sean Hannity.

 

[Borillar]

To them the elections are rigged because they let everyone vote instead of just white protestant males.

Yeah, and if the repug manages to win, then the system works flawlessly.

 

[Auld Phart]

6.9 million multiple voters in 28 states, report finds - Watchdog.org

 

[Rozman]

Trump people must be seeing something in the numbers that scares them...
That's why they are starting the plan to save face.

 

[Rozman]

Trump just might actually be right about something....

BREAKING: US government accuses Russian government of directing US election system hacks.

NBC and MSNBC commenting on this now.

 

[Preacher]

if Trump loses I wonder who will scream the loudest?
Trump or Sean Hannity.

I don't expect screaming. I am going to laugh hysterically knowing MILLIONS of patriots men and women are arming themselves and preparing for that whore bitch Clinton to issue her EO to confiscate the weapons. I can't wait! I got a nice view down my road....dead end road it angles down so perfect position to defend from Oh and nice basement if they try to Waco us. I expect Trump to either set up a parallel regime beside Clinton and all he needs is to declare one state an independent state probably Texas and have a foreign country to recognize it and it starts a new American Revolution OR I expect him to bankroll a HUGE campaign to stop Clinton from getting ANYTHING done or I expect lawsuits and a calling of the election result into question...either way its going to be fun.