Trump has now been implicated in a federal crime

The breaking news is that Trump violated three different campaign finance laws with the assistance of Michael Cohen according to prosecutors for the southern district of New York, and Trump is being implicated as a felon. Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis

Late Friday, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York filed a document arguing that Michael Cohen, until last year President Trump’s personal attorney, should receive a substantial prison sentence for violations of federal law to which Cohen admitted guilt in August.


Analysis | The government implicates Trump and the Trump campaign in federal campaign finance violations
You can tell republicans on usmb who’ve been saying nothing burger are not interested in talking about this?

Not until rush of fox tell them how to respond
How can we not respond when all we hear from you idiots is we gotcha now for 2 years........We have to listen for 6 more.........TDS is always in bloom. Winter, Spring, Summer or Fall...........etc............

Investigation hunting for a crime ............any crime...........not investigating the so called original crime.....pathetic and always has been.
 
It would seem that the reason for the payments is important.

Cohen’s reason was to influence the election.

President Trump’s reason could have been strictly personal.

They don’t have to have the same reason.

This also seems like something the President could make go away by simply repaying the money to those who coughed up the money.

Reimbursement effectively means he made the payments himself.

Whatever the specific truth is, it’s all just bullshit nonsense by the sore loser left.

How the hell can hush money to mistresses influence an election when everyone already knew he was an adulterer?
With the election just days out, a porn star telling everyone he had sex with her while his newlywed wife was at home taking care of their newborn would have been explosive and certainly would have cost him votes. Maybe you’re scum who would vote for such a piece of shit of a husband, but many are not.
quote: Maybe you’re scum who would vote for such a piece of shit of a husband, but many are not.

What a laugh. If you voted for either Bill or Hill, are you defining yourself as 'scum'? Oh, never mind, introspection is not your forte.
Who did Hillary have an affair with? Who did Bill prior to 1996?
Quote: Who did Hillary have an affair with? Who did Bill prior to 1996?

Bill and Hill have a different M.O. if there's any truth to this:
Jim McDougal, a long-time member of the Clintons’ Arkansas inner circle and a central figure in the Whitewater scandal, passed away from a heart attack in prison in 1998. But he said in a final interview before his death that Hillary Clinton had a "hard, difficult personality" and was "riding [Vince Foster] every minute" about Whitewater before Foster took his own life.
McDougal also described his ex-friend Bill as a "master con artist" who married Hillary after a "cold-blooded search" to find himself a politically beneficial wife. Bill, according to McDougal, also privately wanted to prevent Hillary from succeeding in her own political career.
Hillary Clinton Bullied Vince Foster Before Suicide


So Hillary wasn’t an adulter. Thanks for conceding.
Quote: So Hillary wasn’t an (sic) adulter. Thanks for conceding.

You're the one who intimated Hillary might be suspected as an adulterer, not me. My comment was that Hillary had a unique M.O. And for some strange reasons, people implicated in sexual or large fiscal scandals around either of the Clintons were either badgered to death by Clintonista lawyers or found dead somewhere of sundry and plausible causes. All the Clintons had to do to someone else would have been to say "You're fired." They were street smart enough to never have to say that since their too-close-for-comfort former colleagues so conveniently passed away. Or were they each innocent as the driven snow? The answer's somewhere out there, maybe (or not):



:biggrin:
"You're FIRED" actually is a nicer outcome than "You're a goner."​
 
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Bernie was a member of the DNC, which can endorse its own candidates.

You bet. He can give Hillary's campaign a huge benefit.
Why didn't she report that on her FEC documents?
Because the party can endorse its own caywithout being reported as a contribution. I note you failed to show trump reported his endorsements, which you claim should have been reported.

Because the party can endorse its own caywithout being reported as a contribution

But you said a benefit to the campaign is a contribution. Any benefit. You were wrong.

I note you failed to show trump reported his endorsements,

If I had made the claim you did, I'd have been all over the failure to report.
And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported. It’s not my fault it bothers you so. And I take it your refusal to show trump reported such endorsements because he didn’t. Which means according to your nonsense, that’s yet another example of trump breaking the law.

And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported.

So not every benefit needs to be reported?
Excellent!
You have a link that shows Trump's payoff benefit needs to be reported?
Sure....

In addition to contributing money, a nonconnected committee may donate goods or services to candidates and their committees. Gifts of goods or services are called in-kind contributions. For example, a committee makes an in-kind contribution when it:

Making in-kind contributions to candidates - FEC.gov

Thanks. More evidence that paying off porn stars isn't a reportable contribution.
 
With the election just days out, a porn star telling everyone he had sex with her while his newlywed wife was at home taking care of their newborn would have been explosive and certainly would have cost him votes. Maybe you’re scum who would vote for such a piece of shit of a husband, but many are not.
quote: Maybe you’re scum who would vote for such a piece of shit of a husband, but many are not.

What a laugh. If you voted for either Bill or Hill, are you defining yourself as 'scum'? Oh, never mind, introspection is not your forte.
Who did Hillary have an affair with? Who did Bill prior to 1996?
Quote: Who did Hillary have an affair with? Who did Bill prior to 1996?

Bill and Hill have a different M.O. if there's any truth to this:
Jim McDougal, a long-time member of the Clintons’ Arkansas inner circle and a central figure in the Whitewater scandal, passed away from a heart attack in prison in 1998. But he said in a final interview before his death that Hillary Clinton had a "hard, difficult personality" and was "riding [Vince Foster] every minute" about Whitewater before Foster took his own life.
McDougal also described his ex-friend Bill as a "master con artist" who married Hillary after a "cold-blooded search" to find himself a politically beneficial wife. Bill, according to McDougal, also privately wanted to prevent Hillary from succeeding in her own political career.
Hillary Clinton Bullied Vince Foster Before Suicide


So Hillary wasn’t an adulter. Thanks for conceding.
Quote: So Hillary wasn’t an (sic) adulter. Thanks for conceding.

You're the one who intimated Hillary might be suspected as an adulterer, not me. My comment was that Hillary had a unique M.O. And for some strange reasons, people implicated in sexual or large fiscal scandals around either of the Clintons were either badgered to death by Clintonista lawyers or found dead somewhere of sundry and plausible causes. All the Clintons had to do to someone else would have been to say "You're fired." They were street smart enough to never have to say that since their too-close-for-comfort former colleagues so conveniently passed away. Or were they each innocent as the driven snow? The answer's somewhere out there, maybe (or not):



:biggrin:
"You're FIRED" actually is a nicer outcome than "You're a goner."​

You’re crazy, I intimated no such thing. I posted how scum would vote for a piece of shit who cheats on their spouse and you idiotically threw Hillary’s name at the one. And I care not about any of your kooky conservative conspiracy nonsense.
 
Because the party can endorse its own caywithout being reported as a contribution. I note you failed to show trump reported his endorsements, which you claim should have been reported.

Because the party can endorse its own caywithout being reported as a contribution

But you said a benefit to the campaign is a contribution. Any benefit. You were wrong.

I note you failed to show trump reported his endorsements,

If I had made the claim you did, I'd have been all over the failure to report.
And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported. It’s not my fault it bothers you so. And I take it your refusal to show trump reported such endorsements because he didn’t. Which means according to your nonsense, that’s yet another example of trump breaking the law.

And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported.

So not every benefit needs to be reported?
Excellent!
You have a link that shows Trump's payoff benefit needs to be reported?
Sure....

In addition to contributing money, a nonconnected committee may donate goods or services to candidates and their committees. Gifts of goods or services are called in-kind contributions. For example, a committee makes an in-kind contribution when it:

Making in-kind contributions to candidates - FEC.gov

Thanks. More evidence that paying off porn stars isn't a reportable contribution.
Sure it is as she provided a service for trump’s campaign.
 
Because the party can endorse its own caywithout being reported as a contribution

But you said a benefit to the campaign is a contribution. Any benefit. You were wrong.

I note you failed to show trump reported his endorsements,

If I had made the claim you did, I'd have been all over the failure to report.
And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported. It’s not my fault it bothers you so. And I take it your refusal to show trump reported such endorsements because he didn’t. Which means according to your nonsense, that’s yet another example of trump breaking the law.

And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported.

So not every benefit needs to be reported?
Excellent!
You have a link that shows Trump's payoff benefit needs to be reported?
Sure....

In addition to contributing money, a nonconnected committee may donate goods or services to candidates and their committees. Gifts of goods or services are called in-kind contributions. For example, a committee makes an in-kind contribution when it:

Making in-kind contributions to candidates - FEC.gov

Thanks. More evidence that paying off porn stars isn't a reportable contribution.
Sure it is as she provided a service for trump’s campaign.

Be more specific.
 
And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported. It’s not my fault it bothers you so. And I take it your refusal to show trump reported such endorsements because he didn’t. Which means according to your nonsense, that’s yet another example of trump breaking the law.

And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported.

So not every benefit needs to be reported?
Excellent!
You have a link that shows Trump's payoff benefit needs to be reported?
Sure....

In addition to contributing money, a nonconnected committee may donate goods or services to candidates and their committees. Gifts of goods or services are called in-kind contributions. For example, a committee makes an in-kind contribution when it:

Making in-kind contributions to candidates - FEC.gov

Thanks. More evidence that paying off porn stars isn't a reportable contribution.
Sure it is as she provided a service for trump’s campaign.

Be more specific.
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign, so she provided a service, for which he paid $130,000, to not tell it.
 
And I gave you an exemption to what has to be reported.

So not every benefit needs to be reported?
Excellent!
You have a link that shows Trump's payoff benefit needs to be reported?
Sure....

In addition to contributing money, a nonconnected committee may donate goods or services to candidates and their committees. Gifts of goods or services are called in-kind contributions. For example, a committee makes an in-kind contribution when it:

Making in-kind contributions to candidates - FEC.gov

Thanks. More evidence that paying off porn stars isn't a reportable contribution.
Sure it is as she provided a service for trump’s campaign.

Be more specific.
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign, so she provided a service, for which he paid $130,000, to not tell it.

Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign,

So what?

so she provided a service,

Going back to the link you provided, copy and paste the section that fits your claim.
 
Sure....

In addition to contributing money, a nonconnected committee may donate goods or services to candidates and their committees. Gifts of goods or services are called in-kind contributions. For example, a committee makes an in-kind contribution when it:

Making in-kind contributions to candidates - FEC.gov

Thanks. More evidence that paying off porn stars isn't a reportable contribution.
Sure it is as she provided a service for trump’s campaign.

Be more specific.
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign, so she provided a service, for which he paid $130,000, to not tell it.

Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign,

So what?

so she provided a service,

Going back to the link you provided, copy and paste the section that fits your claim.
  • Services (such as advertising, printing or consulting) are valued at the prevailing commercial rate at the time the services are rendered (i.e., the amount that was paid or would have been paid for the services).
 
Thanks. More evidence that paying off porn stars isn't a reportable contribution.
Sure it is as she provided a service for trump’s campaign.

Be more specific.
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign, so she provided a service, for which he paid $130,000, to not tell it.

Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign,

So what?

so she provided a service,

Going back to the link you provided, copy and paste the section that fits your claim.
  • Services (such as advertising, printing or consulting) are valued at the prevailing commercial rate at the time the services are rendered (i.e., the amount that was paid or would have been paid for the services).

Nothing there about telling a good story or not telling a bad story.
Try again?
 
Sure it is as she provided a service for trump’s campaign.

Be more specific.
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign, so she provided a service, for which he paid $130,000, to not tell it.

Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign,

So what?

so she provided a service,

Going back to the link you provided, copy and paste the section that fits your claim.
  • Services (such as advertising, printing or consulting) are valued at the prevailing commercial rate at the time the services are rendered (i.e., the amount that was paid or would have been paid for the services).

Nothing there about telling a good story or not telling a bad story.
Try again?
Don’t need to just because you deny it. She provided a service for which she was paid $130,000.
 
Be more specific.
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign, so she provided a service, for which he paid $130,000, to not tell it.

Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign,

So what?

so she provided a service,

Going back to the link you provided, copy and paste the section that fits your claim.
  • Services (such as advertising, printing or consulting) are valued at the prevailing commercial rate at the time the services are rendered (i.e., the amount that was paid or would have been paid for the services).

Nothing there about telling a good story or not telling a bad story.
Try again?
Don’t need to just because you deny it. She provided a service for which she was paid $130,000.

Your claim doesn't fit under the definition of service, as shown in your link.
 
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign, so she provided a service, for which he paid $130,000, to not tell it.

Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign,

So what?

so she provided a service,

Going back to the link you provided, copy and paste the section that fits your claim.
  • Services (such as advertising, printing or consulting) are valued at the prevailing commercial rate at the time the services are rendered (i.e., the amount that was paid or would have been paid for the services).

Nothing there about telling a good story or not telling a bad story.
Try again?
Don’t need to just because you deny it. She provided a service for which she was paid $130,000.

Your claim doesn't fit under the definition of service, as shown in your link.
serv·ice
/ˈsərvəs/
noun
noun: service
  1. 1.
    the action of helping or doing work for someone.
 
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign,

So what?

so she provided a service,

Going back to the link you provided, copy and paste the section that fits your claim.
  • Services (such as advertising, printing or consulting) are valued at the prevailing commercial rate at the time the services are rendered (i.e., the amount that was paid or would have been paid for the services).

Nothing there about telling a good story or not telling a bad story.
Try again?
Don’t need to just because you deny it. She provided a service for which she was paid $130,000.

Your claim doesn't fit under the definition of service, as shown in your link.
serv·ice
/ˈsərvəs/
noun
noun: service
  1. 1.
    the action of helping or doing work for someone.

Doesn't fit the definitions shown in your link.
 
quote: Maybe you’re scum who would vote for such a piece of shit of a husband, but many are not.

What a laugh. If you voted for either Bill or Hill, are you defining yourself as 'scum'? Oh, never mind, introspection is not your forte.
Who did Hillary have an affair with? Who did Bill prior to 1996?
Quote: Who did Hillary have an affair with? Who did Bill prior to 1996?

Bill and Hill have a different M.O. if there's any truth to this:
Jim McDougal, a long-time member of the Clintons’ Arkansas inner circle and a central figure in the Whitewater scandal, passed away from a heart attack in prison in 1998. But he said in a final interview before his death that Hillary Clinton had a "hard, difficult personality" and was "riding [Vince Foster] every minute" about Whitewater before Foster took his own life.
McDougal also described his ex-friend Bill as a "master con artist" who married Hillary after a "cold-blooded search" to find himself a politically beneficial wife. Bill, according to McDougal, also privately wanted to prevent Hillary from succeeding in her own political career.
Hillary Clinton Bullied Vince Foster Before Suicide


So Hillary wasn’t an adulter. Thanks for conceding.
Quote: So Hillary wasn’t an (sic) adulter. Thanks for conceding.

You're the one who intimated Hillary might be suspected as an adulterer, not me. My comment was that Hillary had a unique M.O. And for some strange reasons, people implicated in sexual or large fiscal scandals around either of the Clintons were either badgered to death by Clintonista lawyers or found dead somewhere of sundry and plausible causes. All the Clintons had to do to someone else would have been to say "You're fired." They were street smart enough to never have to say that since their too-close-for-comfort former colleagues so conveniently passed away. Or were they each innocent as the driven snow? The answer's somewhere out there, maybe (or not):



:biggrin:
"You're FIRED" actually is a nicer outcome than "You're a goner."​

You’re crazy, I intimated no such thing. I posted how scum would vote for a piece of shit who cheats on their spouse and you idiotically threw Hillary’s name at the one. And I care not about any of your kooky conservative conspiracy nonsense.


Quote: You’re crazy, I intimated no such thing. I posted how scum would vote for a piece of shit who cheats on their spouse and you idiotically threw Hillary’s name at the one. And I care not about any of your kooky conservative conspiracy nonsense.

You said: Who did Hillary have an affair with?
I gave you my answer when I diverted YOUR Hillary-affair question into her modus operandi as being a different one. Debating a differing viewpoint from yours is not significant in determining the mental illness condition of being crazy. Does that makes you guilty of psychiatric malpractice? Of course it doesn't. It simply points out that not only did you misinterpret what you wrote, you projected your mistake onto an innocent bystander who simply but firmly called your own statement to your attention.

Your speech could give the electrical sign "will not phase" new meaning in its credence should you persist in chasing your tail here.

 
  • Services (such as advertising, printing or consulting) are valued at the prevailing commercial rate at the time the services are rendered (i.e., the amount that was paid or would have been paid for the services).

Nothing there about telling a good story or not telling a bad story.
Try again?
Don’t need to just because you deny it. She provided a service for which she was paid $130,000.

Your claim doesn't fit under the definition of service, as shown in your link.
serv·ice
/ˈsərvəs/
noun
noun: service
  1. 1.
    the action of helping or doing work for someone.

Doesn't fit the definitions shown in your link.
So? That list is not exhaustive. You should have known that when you saw the leading phrase, ”such as”.

I gave you a definition for the word service. That’s what Stormy provided. For which she was paid $139K. Which is more than the $2,700 limit where it then needs to be reported.
 
Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign, so she provided a service, for which he paid $130,000, to not tell it.

Her account of their affair would have been detrimental to his campaign,

So what?

so she provided a service,

Going back to the link you provided, copy and paste the section that fits your claim.
  • Services (such as advertising, printing or consulting) are valued at the prevailing commercial rate at the time the services are rendered (i.e., the amount that was paid or would have been paid for the services).

Nothing there about telling a good story or not telling a bad story.
Try again?
Don’t need to just because you deny it. She provided a service for which she was paid $130,000.


thats not true,,,she was paid 130K to keep silent about it, as of yet I have not seen that she was even paid for the sex act
No one is claiming she was paid $139K for sex.

Strawman much?
 
Who did Hillary have an affair with? Who did Bill prior to 1996?
Quote: Who did Hillary have an affair with? Who did Bill prior to 1996?

Bill and Hill have a different M.O. if there's any truth to this:
Jim McDougal, a long-time member of the Clintons’ Arkansas inner circle and a central figure in the Whitewater scandal, passed away from a heart attack in prison in 1998. But he said in a final interview before his death that Hillary Clinton had a "hard, difficult personality" and was "riding [Vince Foster] every minute" about Whitewater before Foster took his own life.
McDougal also described his ex-friend Bill as a "master con artist" who married Hillary after a "cold-blooded search" to find himself a politically beneficial wife. Bill, according to McDougal, also privately wanted to prevent Hillary from succeeding in her own political career.
Hillary Clinton Bullied Vince Foster Before Suicide


So Hillary wasn’t an adulter. Thanks for conceding.
Quote: So Hillary wasn’t an (sic) adulter. Thanks for conceding.

You're the one who intimated Hillary might be suspected as an adulterer, not me. My comment was that Hillary had a unique M.O. And for some strange reasons, people implicated in sexual or large fiscal scandals around either of the Clintons were either badgered to death by Clintonista lawyers or found dead somewhere of sundry and plausible causes. All the Clintons had to do to someone else would have been to say "You're fired." They were street smart enough to never have to say that since their too-close-for-comfort former colleagues so conveniently passed away. Or were they each innocent as the driven snow? The answer's somewhere out there, maybe (or not):



:biggrin:
"You're FIRED" actually is a nicer outcome than "You're a goner."​

You’re crazy, I intimated no such thing. I posted how scum would vote for a piece of shit who cheats on their spouse and you idiotically threw Hillary’s name at the one. And I care not about any of your kooky conservative conspiracy nonsense.


Quote: You’re crazy, I intimated no such thing. I posted how scum would vote for a piece of shit who cheats on their spouse and you idiotically threw Hillary’s name at the one. And I care not about any of your kooky conservative conspiracy nonsense.

You said: Who did Hillary have an affair with?
I gave you my answer when I diverted YOUR Hillary-affair question into her modus operandi as being a different one. Debating a differing viewpoint from yours is not significant in determining the mental illness condition of being crazy. Does that makes you guilty of psychiatric malpractice? Of course it doesn't. It simply points out that not only did you misinterpret what you wrote, you projected your mistake onto an innocent bystander who simply but firmly called your own statement to your attention.

Your speech could give the electrical sign "will not phase" new meaning in its credence should you persist in chasing your tail here.


We were talking about adulterers. Thanks for admitting you tried to divert the conversation. I accept your concession.
 
Nothing there about telling a good story or not telling a bad story.
Try again?
Don’t need to just because you deny it. She provided a service for which she was paid $130,000.

Your claim doesn't fit under the definition of service, as shown in your link.
serv·ice
/ˈsərvəs/
noun
noun: service
  1. 1.
    the action of helping or doing work for someone.

Doesn't fit the definitions shown in your link.
So? That list is not exhaustive. You should have known that when you saw the leading phrase, ”such as”.

I gave you a definition for the word service. That’s what Stormy provided. For which she was paid $139K. Which is more than the $2,700 limit where it then needs to be reported.

If your claim was correct, every positive story written about Hillary in the New York Times was a reportable service. Every negative story about Trump in the New York Times was a reportable service. So how much was the NYT contribution on her FEC paperwork?
 
Don’t need to just because you deny it. She provided a service for which she was paid $130,000.

Your claim doesn't fit under the definition of service, as shown in your link.
serv·ice
/ˈsərvəs/
noun
noun: service
  1. 1.
    the action of helping or doing work for someone.

Doesn't fit the definitions shown in your link.
So? That list is not exhaustive. You should have known that when you saw the leading phrase, ”such as”.

I gave you a definition for the word service. That’s what Stormy provided. For which she was paid $139K. Which is more than the $2,700 limit where it then needs to be reported.

If your claim was correct, every positive story written about Hillary in the New York Times was a reportable service. Every negative story about Trump in the New York Times was a reportable service. So how much was the NYT contribution on her FEC paperwork?
And how much were they paid for such services?
 

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