Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response

[cnm]

I was being facetious about it being a weapon BUT it certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility. All this shit always starts around that lab

JFC.

 

[OldLady]

This would be priceless if it wasn't so tragic. The Orange Stooge doesn't even know how to spell coronavirus.

President Trump on Wednesday attacked CNN and “MSDNC (Comcast)” — a reference to MSNBC — for “doing everything possible to make the Caronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible.”

I can't believe he is taking this attitude. Jesus.

What would you rather have him do? Yell "EVERYONE PANIC WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIEEEEEEEE"

The work to be done at this stage is done unseen, in meetings and at border checkpoints, and at local health care facilities.

The Military is also probably prepping field hospitals to be used for quarantine purposes if needed.

The best Trump can do is try to calm the market, and assure people the government is on it.

You calm ME by assuring me that you are fully aware of the gravity of the situation and that we are ready to roll on all wheels as soon as it arrives. We have no reason to actually panic, so I agree with a calm approach, it just needs to be fully knowledgeable. I read in my local paper this a.m. that in Wuhan, the death rate is 2-4%, but in the rest of China it is .7%, which is comparable to our yearly garden variety flu.

They are already working on anti-virals to (hopefully) help.

What we don't need is Trump just selling us stocks.

 

[martybegan]

The CDC handles the actual response. The CDC is still around, as is USAMRIID.

What do you want Trump to do right now? Shut the borders? Quarantine anyone coming in from overseas for 14-21 days?

YES. For as long as it takes.

So now you want him to violate the Constitution?

Quarantining people who may have been exposed is one thing, but doing it to everyone has civil liberty implications.

So does shutting down travel.

I didn't say everyone. I said shut the borders, quarantine anyone who has been overseas. You go looking for civil liberty implications under every loose rock.

So anyone who has gone overseas? even without being in a virus known area?

Ignoring civil liberty implications is what the Chinese would do, the problem is they are implementing it like the socialists they are, i.e. badly.

So anyone who has gone overseas? even without being in a virus known area?
What about the planes, the airports, the ships that bring them home? That seems to be where a lot is spreading.

What about?

So far we have not had any cases of spread inside the US, only people who have caught it outside the US being treated back here.

Shutting down all travel and full quarantines is something you would have to do with a disease with a 10% plus mortality rate, not the 1% we are seeing now (if that high in western settings)

 

[martybegan]

This would be priceless if it wasn't so tragic. The Orange Stooge doesn't even know how to spell coronavirus.

President Trump on Wednesday attacked CNN and “MSDNC (Comcast)” — a reference to MSNBC — for “doing everything possible to make the Caronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible.”

I can't believe he is taking this attitude. Jesus.

What would you rather have him do? Yell "EVERYONE PANIC WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIEEEEEEEE"

The work to be done at this stage is done unseen, in meetings and at border checkpoints, and at local health care facilities.

The Military is also probably prepping field hospitals to be used for quarantine purposes if needed.

The best Trump can do is try to calm the market, and assure people the government is on it.

You calm ME by assuring me that you are fully aware of the gravity of the situation and that we are ready to roll on all wheels as soon as it arrives. We have no reason to actually panic, so I agree with a calm approach, it just needs to be fully knowledgeable. I read in my local paper this a.m. that in Wuhan, the death rate is 2-4%, but in the rest of China it is .7%, which is comparable to our yearly garden variety flu.

They are already working on anti-virals to (hopefully) help.

What we don't need is Trump just selling us stocks.

A stable stock market is a stable economy. Panic selling helps no one, (well except the bargain hunters today)

 

[berg80]

This is what being reactive, not proactive, looks like. It's called leading from behind.

White House considers appointing coronavirus czar
White House considers appointing coronavirus czar

The White House is weighing whether to appoint a coronavirus czar to coordinate the response to the spreading epidemic, according to two people familiar with the matter.

Officials are still debating whether such a role is necessary, but the global spread has increased the urgency to elevate its response, and the Trump White House is eager to appear like it’s in control of containing the virus within the United States. Appointing a czar would mirror the Obama administration’s response to the Ebola outbreak in 2014 when it named Ron Klain, a former adviser to Vice President Joe Biden, to coordinate nationwide efforts to fight that epidemic.

 

[Aldo Raine]

China CREATES a biological weapon and loses control of it.

Leave it to the loons to find a pretzel path to Trump.

Wow, then they are very bad at it because the mortality rate isn't very good for a weapon.

The best viruses have a mortality rate of 10-15 percent. This one is hovering around 11 percent and is easily transmissible. Ebola, ebola zaire, marburg, hemorrhagic fever viruses have anywhere from a 50-90 percent mortality rate but aren't really effective weapons since transmission is more difficult.

By the way the highest mortality rate of this coronavirus is in the district in 'Gina hit the worst at 4.9%. As calculated by the WHO. Great weapon they have developed.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I know this is going to boggle your mind, but you do know Mueller nailed the Divider-in-Chief on obstruction and the House managers nailed him on abuse AND obstruction, right?

All three of these claims are lies.

 

[cnm]

You are confused Moon Bat. I didn't vote for Trump.

You support him.

God bless Trump!

 

[berg80]

All three of these claims are lies.

Said the Trump cultist despite the factual evidence to the contrary.

 

[OKTexas]

You commies always claim, when the fat is trimmed out of a government department, it's been gutted. And you're always wrong.

If there is one thing that can be relied on from Trumpette's it's resorting to idiotic arguments when faced with the evidence of Don's idiocy.

You provided opinion, not evidence. The fact is, if new infections ended tomorrow you commies would still say Trump didn't do enough. FUCK YOU.

.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

China CREATES a biological weapon and loses control of it.

Leave it to the loons to find a pretzel path to Trump.

Wow, then they are very bad at it because the mortality rate isn't very good for a weapon.

The best viruses have a mortality rate of 10-15 percent. This one is hovering around 11 percent and is easily transmissible. Ebola, ebola zaire, marburg, hemorrhagic fever viruses have anywhere from a 50-90 percent mortality rate but aren't really effective weapons since transmission is more difficult.

By the way the highest mortality rate of this coronavirus is in the district in 'Gina hit the worst at 4.9%. As calculated by the WHO. Great weapon they have developed.

The WHO is somewhat of a joke. They just said they dont use the word pandemic anymore. Lol.

 

[Meister]

The Orange Man really blew it this time, he should have shown genuine panic and hysteria
towards this virus. I mean....there are at least 59 known cases in America out of 330+ million people.
And, even though there are signs that it is being contained in the US, he shouldn't let a tragedy like this go
to waste.
I think there should be an investigation committee as to why there was no panic or hysteria,
or even some outrage from the Orange Man. What's he hiding? One has to wonder if
dRump is really behind this outbreak.

Meanwhile, 16,000 people have died and 280,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.

Other news this week....Gonzaga fell from #2 to #3 in the latest AP poll.

 

[M14 Shooter]

All three of these claims are lies.

Said the Trump cultist despite the factual evidence to the contrary.

You cannot provide any evidence at all to back your lies.

 

[Rye Catcher]

When Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the World Health Organization (WHO), declared the Wuhan coronavirus a public health emergency of international concern on Thursday, he praised China for taking “unprecedented” steps to control the deadly virus. “I have never seen for myself this kind of mobilization,” he noted. “China is actually setting a new standard for outbreak response.”


The epidemic control efforts unfolding today in China—including placing some 100 million citizens on lockdown, shutting down a national holiday, building enormous quarantine hospitals in days’ time, and ramping up 24-hour manufacturing of medical equipment—are indeed gargantuan. It’s impossible to watch them without wondering, “What would we do? How would my government respond if this virus spread across my country?”

For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is, not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark.

When Ebola broke out in West Africa in 2014, President Barack Obama recognized that responding to the outbreak overseas, while also protecting Americans at home, involved multiple U.S. government departments and agencies, none of which were speaking to one another. Basically, the U.S. pandemic infrastructure was an enormous orchestra full of talented, egotistical players, each jockeying for solos and fame, refusing to rehearse, and demanding higher salaries—all without a conductor. To bring order and harmony to the chaos, rein in the agency egos, and create a coherent multiagency response overseas and on the homefront, Obama anointed a former vice presidential staffer, Ronald Klain, as a sort of “epidemic czar” inside the White House, clearly stipulated the roles and budgets of various agencies, and placed incident commanders in charge in each Ebola-hit country and inside the United States. The orchestra may have still had its off-key instruments, but it played the same tune.

Building on the Ebola experience, the Obama administration set up a permanent epidemic monitoring and command group inside the White House National Security Council (NSC) and another in the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)—both of which followed the scientific and public health leads of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the diplomatic advice of the State Department.
Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response
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So, the obvious question is why? Why dismantle the government's response chain of command to a potentially devastating health risk to the nation? Because it was Obama's initiative that created it. Perhaps that is why when Capt. Incompetence is asked about our preparedness he gives the kind of ignorant, vacuous answer he gives to so many complex issues, "we've got it under control." Really?
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The headquarters of the nation’s intelligence apparatus roiled with the ouster of the acting director Joseph Maguire and his replacement by a sharp partisan amid a dispute over Russian election interference. The Justice Department remained on edge with whispers of further resignations, including perhaps even that of Attorney General William P. Barr, after the president’s intervention in a case involving one of his friends. Witnesses from the impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump have been summarily dismissed. Dozens of policy experts have been cleared out of the National Security Council staff as part of a restructuring that will mean fewer career professionals in range of the president. A deputy national security adviser dogged by innuendo about disloyalty was exiled to the Energy Department. A Trump appointee’s nomination for a top Treasury Department post was pulled. The No. 3 official at the Defense Department was shown the door.

And Johnny McEntee, a 29-year-old loyalist just installed to take over the Office of Presidential Personnel and reporting directly to Mr. Trump, has ordered a freeze on all political appointments across the government. He also convened a meeting to instruct departments to search for people not devoted to the president so they can be removed, according to people briefed about the session, and informed colleagues that he planned to tell cabinet secretaries that the White House would be choosing their deputies from now on.

But career professionals are not the only ones in the cross hairs. Also facing scrutiny are Republican political appointees considered insufficiently committed to the president or suspected of not aggressively advancing his agenda.
Allies of the president say he should be free to make personnel changes, even if it amounts to shedding people who are not seen as loyal to Mr. Trump.
“It is not unusual at all that these types of assessments are done and thereafter changes are made,” said Bradley A. Blakeman, a Republican strategist and former White House official under President George W. Bush.
Nonetheless, the tumult and anxiety come at a time when the Trump administration confronts enormous challenges, including the coronavirus outbreak, Iranian and North Korean nuclear development and Russian determination to play a role again in America’s next election. Democrats, for example, have expressed concerns about the administration’s ability to respond if there were a severe coronavirus outbreak in the United States, noting that a global health security expert position on the National Security Council has been left vacant for almost two years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/22/us/politics/trump-disloyalty-turnover.html

It is not fair to compare President Obama's care, concern and actions to protect the people; it is something which trump does not understand. He lacks empathy and every decision he has made is preceded by him asking himself this question: "How will this benefit me?".

 

[berg80]

You cannot provide any evidence at all to back your lies.

You know I can. But in the context of a message board debate what would the point be since you'll do what all Trump cultists do. Ignore it, deny it...........basically say black is white. If you're gullible enough to believe Billy the Bagman's laughable exoneration canard you can can be duped in to thinking anything.

 

[Flash]

All three of these claims are lies.

Said the Trump cultist despite the factual evidence to the contrary.

You cannot provide any evidence at all to back your lies.

It is the TDS mental illness. It causes them to be delusional.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You cannot provide any evidence at all to back your lies.

You know I can.

-You- know you can't.

 

[depotoo]

You cannot provide any evidence at all to back your lies.

You know I can. But in the context of a message board debate what would the point be since you'll do what all Trump cultists do. Ignore it, deny it...........basically say black is white. If you're gullible enough to believe Billy the Bagman's laughable exoneration canard you can can be duped in to thinking anything.

That’s called deflection...

 

[berg80]

This terrible virus has the makings of being the Golfer-in-Chief's Katrina. "You're doin' a heck of a job Brownie" = "we've got it all under control. No need to worry."

 

[berg80]

You cannot provide any evidence at all to back your lies.

You know I can.

-You- know you can't.

Keep tap dancing.