Trump On Woodward Tape Admitting To Lying About Seriousness Of Coronavirus

I wonder, would these same Cons be defending a President HRC if she had allowed almost 200,00 Americans DIE of Covid?
They would be understandably furious and pushing legal proceedings. I'd agree.

But no, they're little obedient Trumpster bunnies, so they didn't see nuffin'.
Almost 200,000 didn’t die because of wuhan flu. Prove it
 
Wow!

CNN and Bob Woodhead....................two of the worst sources known to man.

You are such a gullible rube. :abgg2q.jpg:


In an article published in the NEJM onMarch 26, Fauci et al said it be like a severe flu season.


So what was Trump supposed to do? Go agaisnt expert advice?

I said months ago that in public President Trump was a calming voice, refusing to panic the nation, and that is what he did. Privately, and Fauci has said this numerous times, President Trump was folowing the expert scientific advice.

LOL, a real leader tells the truth. Trump and The Truth are not even in the same Universe.

A leader does not calm the nation by lying, FDR said it best in his first speech to the nation, March 4, 1933:

"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is...fear itself — nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and of vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. And I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days.

"I am prepared under my constitutional duty to recommend the measures that a stricken Nation in the midst of a stricken world may require. These measures, or such other measures as the Congress may build out of its experience and wisdom, I shall seek, within my constitutional authority, to bring to speedy adoption. But in the event that the Congress shall fail to take one of these two courses, and in the event that the national emergency is still critical, I shall not evade the clear course of duty that will then confront me. I shall ask the Congress for the one remaining instrument to meet the crisis — broad Executive power to wage a war against the emergency, as great as the power that would be given to me if we were in fact invaded by a foreign foe."

LEADERSHIP ^^^
Manipulator------------HUGE power grab by socialist Roosevelt who made his family richer by his dirty deals of funnelling tax money around.....
 
You're an idiot. No one thinks Chinese virus means Chinese Americans other than a few nuts who are nuts anyway. And they are nuts, there was no link to party.

You also committed a causal fallacy on the timing argument. Something happening then another does not prove causation. Duh

I’ll side with the medical community on this one and not some random Trump cultist.

The "medical community" said that harassment of Chinese was because Trump called it the Chinese virus? That's stupid, even for you
Close. The medical community says that calling it the Chinese virus can result in stigmatization and harassment of Asians, so they don’t do it.

Trump does it anyway. Asians are stigmatized and harassed.

When we talk about xenophobia and racism, this is what we are talking about.
Chinese isn't a race, Dumbfuck.
Asian is, silly. What race do you think the Chinese are?
Trump called it the CHINA virus, not the ASIAN virus, Fuckwit.

You really are dumber than a box of retarded hammers.
This isn’t complicated if you just use your brain. I don’t know why to have to explain simple concepts to supposed intelligent adults.

Asian people are harassed because people assume or believe they’re Chinese.
That makes you a racist.
Okay. Please explain how that makes me a racist?
You assume an entire race belongs to ONE country. You are either a racist, or dumber than a box of retarded toenail clippings.

Which is it?
Uh, no. I did not assume an entire race belongs to one country. Where the hell did you get that impression?
From your post. Can you not keep up with your own bullshit?
No post of mine said any such thing. You’re putting words in my mouth. Getting desperate?
So you can't keep up with your own bullshit. :itsok:
I can't keep up with your warped mind putting words in my mouth.

I never said what you're accusing me of saying. But I am saying that racists don't really take the time to worry whether the person they're harassing is Chinese, Korean, Japanese or any other Asian nationality. They will take their anger out on anyone who fits the description.

Anger that is stoked by Trump.
 
You're an idiot. No one thinks Chinese virus means Chinese Americans other than a few nuts who are nuts anyway. And they are nuts, there was no link to party.

You also committed a causal fallacy on the timing argument. Something happening then another does not prove causation. Duh

I’ll side with the medical community on this one and not some random Trump cultist.

The "medical community" said that harassment of Chinese was because Trump called it the Chinese virus? That's stupid, even for you
Close. The medical community says that calling it the Chinese virus can result in stigmatization and harassment of Asians, so they don’t do it.

Trump does it anyway. Asians are stigmatized and harassed.

When we talk about xenophobia and racism, this is what we are talking about.
Chinese isn't a race, Dumbfuck.
Asian is, silly. What race do you think the Chinese are?
Trump called it the CHINA virus, not the ASIAN virus, Fuckwit.

You really are dumber than a box of retarded hammers.
This isn’t complicated if you just use your brain. I don’t know why to have to explain simple concepts to supposed intelligent adults.

Asian people are harassed because people assume or believe they’re Chinese.
That makes you a racist.
Okay. Please explain how that makes me a racist?
You assume an entire race belongs to ONE country. You are either a racist, or dumber than a box of retarded toenail clippings.

Which is it?
Uh, no. I did not assume an entire race belongs to one country. Where the hell did you get that impression?
From your post. Can you not keep up with your own bullshit?
No post of mine said any such thing. You’re putting words in my mouth. Getting desperate?
So you can't keep up with your own bullshit. :itsok:
I can't keep up with your warped mind putting words in my mouth.

I never said what you're accusing me of saying. But I am saying that racists don't really take the time to worry whether the person they're harassing is Chinese, Korean, Japanese or any other Asian nationality. They will take their anger out on anyone who fits the description.

Anger that is stoked by Trump.
Anger that is stoked by Trump.

Once again, I must ask you for the evidence you can't produce.............just for fun. :iyfyus.jpg:
 
As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???


Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
dont change the subject,,,


So not calm thank you.
what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???
There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.

Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.

Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?

Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?

You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?

And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.

But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?

Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering

Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire

Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?

Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus

Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering

Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.

Colfax: Can I see this proof?

Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)

You are really bad at making a compelling case.
:oops8:

“Nakedly xenophobic”



Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.

GO!

Biden's words speak for themselves.

“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”

“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”

He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.

Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.

LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.

colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.

Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.

It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.

Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.

Thats the best ya got?

Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.

GO!

It's a trivial google search:
Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.

Try again.

It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.

Don't be a ignorant.
No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.

Next?
Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.

You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.

Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you

I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.

Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.

Keep digging. :dig:
Common sense. It's the reason that we no longer call viruses after the location they were discovered. It unnecessarily stigmatizes a people.


So I'll side with the medical community of you're ignorance.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
Read the articles. Asian Americans are being harassed because idiots out there blame Asians for coronavirus. Trump is stoking this fear.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?

There is no discussing this with someone as cultish as you.
Me: Show us some evidence.

Colfax: I can't cuz you are a cultist!

And you think you are capable of coherent posts. :cuckoo:
Nostra: show us some evidence.

Colfax: here’s several examples of Asian Americans being harassed because of COVID.

Nostra: No, I want evidence they were harassed because of it.

Colfax: it’s in the article, just read it.

Nostra: you need to provide evidence.

Nothing penetrates your alternate reality.
Once again you have to lie and twist words around to fit your terminal TDS delusional world.

I said bring evidence Chinese Americans were harassed because Trump called it the China Virus. You brought exactly ZERO.

Babble something about "common sense" (which is hilarious coming from you)....and then babbled something about "temporal relationship".
The medical community advises against calling it China virus because it unnecessarily stigmatizes Asians.

Trump calls it China virus.

Asians are unnecessarily stigmatized.

I know, logic is difficult, but that’s what happened. And when we talk about xenophobic and racist behavior, this is exactly what we are talking about.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
Please attempt to discuss this like an adult and actually address what I’ve said instead of creating straw men?
Ok, then bring some actual evidence for us to discuss. Leave out your "temporal relationship" bullshit.
Did you actually read the articles that discussed attacks and discrimination of Asian Americans?
The ones with zero evidence Trump's words caused them?

So you acknowledge that Asian Americans were harassed and discriminated against because of the virus?
Where did I do that?
It’s a question, not an accusation. Do you?
I have seen no evidence of it.
The evidence is in the article, did you miss it?

Asian Americans are literally being screamed at on the street because people are saying they’re responsible for coronavirus.

They are being screamed at for being responsible for 'CORONAVIRUS'?

Sounds like the "medical community" is to blame.

Makes zero sense. Why would Asian people be singled out because it’s coronavirus and what does the medical community have to do with it?
You claimed the medical community calls it 'coronavirus'..............not the China virus......then claim Chinese Americans were harassed by "racists" because they cause the "coronavirus".

Please try to keep up.
Well, sort of. You’re getting closer. Asians are being harassed because racists associate coronavirus with Asians. Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to this. Calling it the coronavirus does not.
Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to this.

Once again we are back to you making shit up you can't prove. I'll ask again.............where is your evidence of this?

You can’t possible be this stupid as to not get how calling it the Chinese virus would associate the virus with Asians?

Like, I literally don’t know how to explain it any simpler than that.
Show me where I said that wouldn't associate the Kung Flu with Asians?

You have gotten so desperate you have circled back around to trying to put words in my mouth.

I'm still waiting for your EVIDENCE calling it the china virus caused anything.

Honestly, I just can't explain it any clearer to you. I'll try again.

Asians are being harassed because racists associate coronavirus with Asians. Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to that association. So it's not surprising that people use that association to attack Asians. We should be discouraging that association so that people aren't harassed and attacked because of it. This is the position of the medical community.

Regardless of whether you believe this or not, Biden does and so do a lot of people in the Asian American community, which Biden was speaking to.

So when Biden talks about racism and xenophobia, it's not about the travel ban, which never gets mentioned, it's about racist attacks and harassment of Asians in the US.

Looping back to the beginning of the argument, Biden's comments were never about any travel ban.
 
You're an idiot. No one thinks Chinese virus means Chinese Americans other than a few nuts who are nuts anyway. And they are nuts, there was no link to party.

You also committed a causal fallacy on the timing argument. Something happening then another does not prove causation. Duh

I’ll side with the medical community on this one and not some random Trump cultist.

The "medical community" said that harassment of Chinese was because Trump called it the Chinese virus? That's stupid, even for you
Close. The medical community says that calling it the Chinese virus can result in stigmatization and harassment of Asians, so they don’t do it.

Trump does it anyway. Asians are stigmatized and harassed.

When we talk about xenophobia and racism, this is what we are talking about.
Chinese isn't a race, Dumbfuck.
Asian is, silly. What race do you think the Chinese are?
Trump called it the CHINA virus, not the ASIAN virus, Fuckwit.

You really are dumber than a box of retarded hammers.
This isn’t complicated if you just use your brain. I don’t know why to have to explain simple concepts to supposed intelligent adults.

Asian people are harassed because people assume or believe they’re Chinese.
That makes you a racist.
Okay. Please explain how that makes me a racist?
You assume an entire race belongs to ONE country. You are either a racist, or dumber than a box of retarded toenail clippings.

Which is it?
Uh, no. I did not assume an entire race belongs to one country. Where the hell did you get that impression?
From your post. Can you not keep up with your own bullshit?
No post of mine said any such thing. You’re putting words in my mouth. Getting desperate?
So you can't keep up with your own bullshit. :itsok:
I can't keep up with your warped mind putting words in my mouth.

I never said what you're accusing me of saying. But I am saying that racists don't really take the time to worry whether the person they're harassing is Chinese, Korean, Japanese or any other Asian nationality. They will take their anger out on anyone who fits the description.

Anger that is stoked by Trump.
Anger that is stoked by Trump.

Once again, I must ask you for the evidence you can't produce.............just for fun. :iyfyus.jpg:

Have you been living in a cave? Trump has been harping on China constantly about coronavirus. He is stoking anger.
 
I wonder, would these same Cons be defending a President HRC if she had allowed almost 200,00 Americans DIE of Covid?
They would be understandably furious and pushing legal proceedings. I'd agree.

But no, they're little obedient Trumpster bunnies, so they didn't see nuffin'.
Almost 200,000 didn’t die because of wuhan flu. Prove it
Mac1958 i posted the cdc link! Any time asswipe. I’m here. Prove they died of wuhan! Ready go
 
As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???


Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
dont change the subject,,,


So not calm thank you.
what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???
There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.

Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.

Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?

Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?

You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?

And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.

But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?

Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering

Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire

Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?

Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus

Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering

Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.

Colfax: Can I see this proof?

Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)

You are really bad at making a compelling case.
:oops8:

“Nakedly xenophobic”



Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.

GO!

Biden's words speak for themselves.

“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”

“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”

He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.

Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.

LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.

colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.

Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.

It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.

Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.

Thats the best ya got?

Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.

GO!

It's a trivial google search:
Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.

Try again.

It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.

Don't be a ignorant.
No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.

Next?
Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.

You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.

Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you

I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.

Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.

Keep digging. :dig:
Common sense. It's the reason that we no longer call viruses after the location they were discovered. It unnecessarily stigmatizes a people.


So I'll side with the medical community of you're ignorance.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
Read the articles. Asian Americans are being harassed because idiots out there blame Asians for coronavirus. Trump is stoking this fear.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?

There is no discussing this with someone as cultish as you.
Me: Show us some evidence.

Colfax: I can't cuz you are a cultist!

And you think you are capable of coherent posts. :cuckoo:
Nostra: show us some evidence.

Colfax: here’s several examples of Asian Americans being harassed because of COVID.

Nostra: No, I want evidence they were harassed because of it.

Colfax: it’s in the article, just read it.

Nostra: you need to provide evidence.

Nothing penetrates your alternate reality.
Once again you have to lie and twist words around to fit your terminal TDS delusional world.

I said bring evidence Chinese Americans were harassed because Trump called it the China Virus. You brought exactly ZERO.

Babble something about "common sense" (which is hilarious coming from you)....and then babbled something about "temporal relationship".
The medical community advises against calling it China virus because it unnecessarily stigmatizes Asians.

Trump calls it China virus.

Asians are unnecessarily stigmatized.

I know, logic is difficult, but that’s what happened. And when we talk about xenophobic and racist behavior, this is exactly what we are talking about.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
Please attempt to discuss this like an adult and actually address what I’ve said instead of creating straw men?
Ok, then bring some actual evidence for us to discuss. Leave out your "temporal relationship" bullshit.
Did you actually read the articles that discussed attacks and discrimination of Asian Americans?
The ones with zero evidence Trump's words caused them?

So you acknowledge that Asian Americans were harassed and discriminated against because of the virus?
Where did I do that?
It’s a question, not an accusation. Do you?
I have seen no evidence of it.
The evidence is in the article, did you miss it?

Asian Americans are literally being screamed at on the street because people are saying they’re responsible for coronavirus.

They are being screamed at for being responsible for 'CORONAVIRUS'?

Sounds like the "medical community" is to blame.

Makes zero sense. Why would Asian people be singled out because it’s coronavirus and what does the medical community have to do with it?
You claimed the medical community calls it 'coronavirus'..............not the China virus......then claim Chinese Americans were harassed by "racists" because they cause the "coronavirus".

Please try to keep up.
Well, sort of. You’re getting closer. Asians are being harassed because racists associate coronavirus with Asians. Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to this. Calling it the coronavirus does not.
Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to this.

Once again we are back to you making shit up you can't prove. I'll ask again.............where is your evidence of this?

You can’t possible be this stupid as to not get how calling it the Chinese virus would associate the virus with Asians?

Like, I literally don’t know how to explain it any simpler than that.
Show me where I said that wouldn't associate the Kung Flu with Asians?

You have gotten so desperate you have circled back around to trying to put words in my mouth.

I'm still waiting for your EVIDENCE calling it the china virus caused anything.

Honestly, I just can't explain it any clearer to you. I'll try again.

Asians are being harassed because racists associate coronavirus with Asians. Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to that association. So it's not surprising that people use that association to attack Asians. We should be discouraging that association so that people aren't harassed and attacked because of it. This is the position of the medical community.

Regardless of whether you believe this or not, Biden does and so do a lot of people in the Asian American community, which Biden was speaking to.

So when Biden talks about racism and xenophobia, it's not about the travel ban, which never gets mentioned, it's about racist attacks and harassment of Asians in the US.

Looping back to the beginning of the argument, Biden's comments were never about any travel ban.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
 
You're an idiot. No one thinks Chinese virus means Chinese Americans other than a few nuts who are nuts anyway. And they are nuts, there was no link to party.

You also committed a causal fallacy on the timing argument. Something happening then another does not prove causation. Duh

I’ll side with the medical community on this one and not some random Trump cultist.

The "medical community" said that harassment of Chinese was because Trump called it the Chinese virus? That's stupid, even for you
Close. The medical community says that calling it the Chinese virus can result in stigmatization and harassment of Asians, so they don’t do it.

Trump does it anyway. Asians are stigmatized and harassed.

When we talk about xenophobia and racism, this is what we are talking about.
Chinese isn't a race, Dumbfuck.
Asian is, silly. What race do you think the Chinese are?
Trump called it the CHINA virus, not the ASIAN virus, Fuckwit.

You really are dumber than a box of retarded hammers.
This isn’t complicated if you just use your brain. I don’t know why to have to explain simple concepts to supposed intelligent adults.

Asian people are harassed because people assume or believe they’re Chinese.
That makes you a racist.
Okay. Please explain how that makes me a racist?
You assume an entire race belongs to ONE country. You are either a racist, or dumber than a box of retarded toenail clippings.

Which is it?
Uh, no. I did not assume an entire race belongs to one country. Where the hell did you get that impression?
From your post. Can you not keep up with your own bullshit?
No post of mine said any such thing. You’re putting words in my mouth. Getting desperate?
So you can't keep up with your own bullshit. :itsok:
I can't keep up with your warped mind putting words in my mouth.

I never said what you're accusing me of saying. But I am saying that racists don't really take the time to worry whether the person they're harassing is Chinese, Korean, Japanese or any other Asian nationality. They will take their anger out on anyone who fits the description.

Anger that is stoked by Trump.
Anger that is stoked by Trump.

Once again, I must ask you for the evidence you can't produce.............just for fun. :iyfyus.jpg:

Have you been living in a cave? Trump has been harping on China constantly about coronavirus. He is stoking anger.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
 
As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???


Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
dont change the subject,,,


So not calm thank you.
what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???
There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.

Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.

Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?

Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?

You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?

And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.

But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?

Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering

Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire

Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?

Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus

Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering

Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.

Colfax: Can I see this proof?

Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)

You are really bad at making a compelling case.
:oops8:

“Nakedly xenophobic”



Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.

GO!

Biden's words speak for themselves.

“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”

“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”

He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.

Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.

LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.

colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.

Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.

It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.

Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.

Thats the best ya got?

Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.

GO!

It's a trivial google search:
Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.

Try again.

It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.

Don't be a ignorant.
No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.

Next?
Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.

You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.

Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you

I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.

Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.

Keep digging. :dig:
Common sense. It's the reason that we no longer call viruses after the location they were discovered. It unnecessarily stigmatizes a people.


So I'll side with the medical community of you're ignorance.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
Read the articles. Asian Americans are being harassed because idiots out there blame Asians for coronavirus. Trump is stoking this fear.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?

There is no discussing this with someone as cultish as you.
Me: Show us some evidence.

Colfax: I can't cuz you are a cultist!

And you think you are capable of coherent posts. :cuckoo:
Nostra: show us some evidence.

Colfax: here’s several examples of Asian Americans being harassed because of COVID.

Nostra: No, I want evidence they were harassed because of it.

Colfax: it’s in the article, just read it.

Nostra: you need to provide evidence.

Nothing penetrates your alternate reality.
Once again you have to lie and twist words around to fit your terminal TDS delusional world.

I said bring evidence Chinese Americans were harassed because Trump called it the China Virus. You brought exactly ZERO.

Babble something about "common sense" (which is hilarious coming from you)....and then babbled something about "temporal relationship".
The medical community advises against calling it China virus because it unnecessarily stigmatizes Asians.

Trump calls it China virus.

Asians are unnecessarily stigmatized.

I know, logic is difficult, but that’s what happened. And when we talk about xenophobic and racist behavior, this is exactly what we are talking about.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
Please attempt to discuss this like an adult and actually address what I’ve said instead of creating straw men?
Ok, then bring some actual evidence for us to discuss. Leave out your "temporal relationship" bullshit.
Did you actually read the articles that discussed attacks and discrimination of Asian Americans?
The ones with zero evidence Trump's words caused them?

So you acknowledge that Asian Americans were harassed and discriminated against because of the virus?
Where did I do that?
It’s a question, not an accusation. Do you?
I have seen no evidence of it.
The evidence is in the article, did you miss it?

Asian Americans are literally being screamed at on the street because people are saying they’re responsible for coronavirus.

They are being screamed at for being responsible for 'CORONAVIRUS'?

Sounds like the "medical community" is to blame.

Makes zero sense. Why would Asian people be singled out because it’s coronavirus and what does the medical community have to do with it?
You claimed the medical community calls it 'coronavirus'..............not the China virus......then claim Chinese Americans were harassed by "racists" because they cause the "coronavirus".

Please try to keep up.
Well, sort of. You’re getting closer. Asians are being harassed because racists associate coronavirus with Asians. Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to this. Calling it the coronavirus does not.
Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to this.

Once again we are back to you making shit up you can't prove. I'll ask again.............where is your evidence of this?

You can’t possible be this stupid as to not get how calling it the Chinese virus would associate the virus with Asians?

Like, I literally don’t know how to explain it any simpler than that.
Show me where I said that wouldn't associate the Kung Flu with Asians?

You have gotten so desperate you have circled back around to trying to put words in my mouth.

I'm still waiting for your EVIDENCE calling it the china virus caused anything.

Honestly, I just can't explain it any clearer to you. I'll try again.

Asians are being harassed because racists associate coronavirus with Asians. Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to that association. So it's not surprising that people use that association to attack Asians. We should be discouraging that association so that people aren't harassed and attacked because of it. This is the position of the medical community.

Regardless of whether you believe this or not, Biden does and so do a lot of people in the Asian American community, which Biden was speaking to.

So when Biden talks about racism and xenophobia, it's not about the travel ban, which never gets mentioned, it's about racist attacks and harassment of Asians in the US.

Looping back to the beginning of the argument, Biden's comments were never about any travel ban.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
I'm out. There's no use in trying to have a conversation with you if you don't want to actually engage in the topic.
 
As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?
why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???


Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?
dont change the subject,,,


So not calm thank you.
what I dont get is why are dems trying so hard to get trump re-elected???
There is nothing that can be said to many Trump supporters to change their minds. They are so encapsulated in Trump’s world, it would break their brains to come to terms with reality.

Is that what you are doing in here? Trying to change minds? And to do that you hurl insults, and slurs at the people you disagree with to accomplish that? Hmmm....I actually think it would "break the brains" of liberals like yourself to admit that Trump has done anything positive....even though you know he has.
How can I change your mind? We’d have to live in the same reality first.

Actually if you just joined us in reality, that would do it
Is that the reality where Trump claimed in the spring that COVID is no big deal, the Democrats are using it for a hoax, it’s going to disappear and it’s totally under control?

Or should I stay in the reality where COVID has killed hundreds of thousands, continues to kill about a thousand people per day and has caused trillions upon trillions of economic damage?

You mean the sring where Nancy was inviting people down to Chinatown, and Joe was calling the travel ban xenophobic, and fear mongering? That spring?

And due to the administrations actions the death toll from this virus is within CDC projected numbers...That's science.

But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?

Colfax: But Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering

Fact check: Liar, liar pants on fire

Colfax: and what was exactly was wrong with inviting people to Chinatown in February?

Your hypocrisy of attacking Trump now for admitting he downplayed the Biden virus

Colfax: Biden never called the ban xenophobic and fear mongering

Kaz: Yes he did and I have proof.

Colfax: Can I see this proof?

Kaz: No! (Jumps out window)

You are really bad at making a compelling case.
:oops8:

“Nakedly xenophobic”



Cant wait for your lame ass spin claiming he wasn’t talking about the travel ban.....or some other dumbassery.

GO!

Biden's words speak for themselves.

“The pandemic has unleashed familiar forces of hate, fear and xenophobia that he always flames … that have always existed in this society,” Biden said. “But this president brought it with him, has brought with it a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”

“We deserve better than a president who attacks the Speaker of the House for visiting a local Chinatown business in San Francisco. We deserve better than a president who aggressively and childishly insults Asian American reporter. Think of that, the president of the U.S. for the whole world to see, insults an Asian American reporter in the Rose Garden for doing her job and asking a direct question. You deserve a partner and a friend in the White House.”

He said exactly what he means and nothing in his comments referred to the travel ban.

Thank you for providing an article that contradicts what you want me to believe. It's far easier this way. Perhaps you should have read it.

LOL, just as I predicted in the last post.

colfax: Biden's comments about the travel ban weren't referring to the travel ban.

Thank you, Mr. Doublespeak
I would like for colfax_m to tell us what part of Trump’s Kung Flu response was “xenophobic”, if it wasn’t the travel bans.

It’s in Biden’s comments, which if you read, you wouldn’t have to ask.

Calling it the China virus stigmatized Asian Americans who were discriminated against as a result.

Thats the best ya got?

Link us up to all this discrimination due to calling it the China Virus.

GO!

It's a trivial google search:
Your link provides ZERO EVIDENCE those acts were caused by calling it the Chinese virus.

Try again.

It's common sense that his relentless attacks on China as responsible for the coronavirus are going to have collateral damage.

Don't be a ignorant.
No, it isn’t. it is your wishful thinking because you lack any evidence.

Next?
Sure, it's just a total coincidence that they noticed a rash of discrimination against Asians just at the same time that Trump has been harping on China relentlessly.

You're not that stupid, you just can't acknowledge you're wrong.

Stupid is anyone who thinks "Chinese virus" refers to Chinese Americans. You know, you

I absolutely agree with you that stupid is anyone who thinks Chinese virus refers to Chinese Americans.

Problem is that Trump has a LOT of stupid supporters out there. Trump knows it too.
And yet, you have shown zero evidence of anyone doing anything because Trump called it the China virus.

Keep digging. :dig:
Common sense. It's the reason that we no longer call viruses after the location they were discovered. It unnecessarily stigmatizes a people.


So I'll side with the medical community of you're ignorance.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
Read the articles. Asian Americans are being harassed because idiots out there blame Asians for coronavirus. Trump is stoking this fear.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?

There is no discussing this with someone as cultish as you.
Me: Show us some evidence.

Colfax: I can't cuz you are a cultist!

And you think you are capable of coherent posts. :cuckoo:
Nostra: show us some evidence.

Colfax: here’s several examples of Asian Americans being harassed because of COVID.

Nostra: No, I want evidence they were harassed because of it.

Colfax: it’s in the article, just read it.

Nostra: you need to provide evidence.

Nothing penetrates your alternate reality.
Once again you have to lie and twist words around to fit your terminal TDS delusional world.

I said bring evidence Chinese Americans were harassed because Trump called it the China Virus. You brought exactly ZERO.

Babble something about "common sense" (which is hilarious coming from you)....and then babbled something about "temporal relationship".
The medical community advises against calling it China virus because it unnecessarily stigmatizes Asians.

Trump calls it China virus.

Asians are unnecessarily stigmatized.

I know, logic is difficult, but that’s what happened. And when we talk about xenophobic and racist behavior, this is exactly what we are talking about.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
Please attempt to discuss this like an adult and actually address what I’ve said instead of creating straw men?
Ok, then bring some actual evidence for us to discuss. Leave out your "temporal relationship" bullshit.
Did you actually read the articles that discussed attacks and discrimination of Asian Americans?
The ones with zero evidence Trump's words caused them?

So you acknowledge that Asian Americans were harassed and discriminated against because of the virus?
Where did I do that?
It’s a question, not an accusation. Do you?
I have seen no evidence of it.
The evidence is in the article, did you miss it?

Asian Americans are literally being screamed at on the street because people are saying they’re responsible for coronavirus.

They are being screamed at for being responsible for 'CORONAVIRUS'?

Sounds like the "medical community" is to blame.

Makes zero sense. Why would Asian people be singled out because it’s coronavirus and what does the medical community have to do with it?
You claimed the medical community calls it 'coronavirus'..............not the China virus......then claim Chinese Americans were harassed by "racists" because they cause the "coronavirus".

Please try to keep up.
Well, sort of. You’re getting closer. Asians are being harassed because racists associate coronavirus with Asians. Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to this. Calling it the coronavirus does not.
Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to this.

Once again we are back to you making shit up you can't prove. I'll ask again.............where is your evidence of this?

You can’t possible be this stupid as to not get how calling it the Chinese virus would associate the virus with Asians?

Like, I literally don’t know how to explain it any simpler than that.
Show me where I said that wouldn't associate the Kung Flu with Asians?

You have gotten so desperate you have circled back around to trying to put words in my mouth.

I'm still waiting for your EVIDENCE calling it the china virus caused anything.

Honestly, I just can't explain it any clearer to you. I'll try again.

Asians are being harassed because racists associate coronavirus with Asians. Calling it the Chinese virus contributes to that association. So it's not surprising that people use that association to attack Asians. We should be discouraging that association so that people aren't harassed and attacked because of it. This is the position of the medical community.

Regardless of whether you believe this or not, Biden does and so do a lot of people in the Asian American community, which Biden was speaking to.

So when Biden talks about racism and xenophobia, it's not about the travel ban, which never gets mentioned, it's about racist attacks and harassment of Asians in the US.

Looping back to the beginning of the argument, Biden's comments were never about any travel ban.
Why do you continue to show up with no evidence thinking you have something beyond your terminal TDS afflicted delusions?
I'm out. There's no use in trying to have a conversation with you if you don't want to actually engage in the topic.
Asking for actual evidence always gets single digit IQ Dimwingers running for the exit.

Buh-bye.
 
I wonder, would these same Cons be defending a President HRC if she had allowed almost 200,00 Americans DIE of Covid?
They would be understandably furious and pushing legal proceedings. I'd agree.

But no, they're little obedient Trumpster bunnies, so they didn't see nuffin'.
Almost 200,000 didn’t die because of wuhan flu. Prove it
Mac1958 i posted the cdc link! Any time asswipe. I’m here. Prove they died of wuhan! Ready go
I'm sure you're right.

Why do you think Trump is a liar about this? He's backing up the numbers. Is he part of the conspiracy?

What's your take on this?
 
I wonder, would these same Cons be defending a President HRC if she had allowed almost 200,00 Americans DIE of Covid?
They would be understandably furious and pushing legal proceedings. I'd agree.

But no, they're little obedient Trumpster bunnies, so they didn't see nuffin'.
Almost 200,000 didn’t die because of wuhan flu. Prove it
Mac1958 i posted the cdc link! Any time asswipe. I’m here. Prove they died of wuhan! Ready go
I'm sure you're right.

Why do you think Trump is a liar about this? He's backing up the numbers. Is he part of the conspiracy?

What's your take on this?
He called the numbers a hoax! Not sure your point?
 
I wonder, would these same Cons be defending a President HRC if she had allowed almost 200,00 Americans DIE of Covid?
They would be understandably furious and pushing legal proceedings. I'd agree.

But no, they're little obedient Trumpster bunnies, so they didn't see nuffin'.
Almost 200,000 didn’t die because of wuhan flu. Prove it
Mac1958 i posted the cdc link! Any time asswipe. I’m here. Prove they died of wuhan! Ready go
I'm sure you're right.

Why do you think Trump is a liar about this? He's backing up the numbers. Is he part of the conspiracy?

What's your take on this?
He called the numbers a hoax! Not sure your point?
Oh, okay, could you provide a link to that?
 
I put you in the same boat as Mac....Why are you here if this is your core belief of those in here you are arguing against? You remember the saying about not getting in the pit with pigs, because both you and the pig get dirty, but the pig likes it....

So, I couldn't care any less that you believe the detestable things you wrote here about your opponents, but you must know that you look even worse than that....

So, my advise to you is that you join Mac, and get lost....

If you don't care less, don't engage with me. I couldn't give a fuck.
 
Thanks, arrogant ass. I'll give that all due consideration.

What's stupid is voting for a racist, Marxist like Biden

Oh, I missed this one. Anybody who calls Biden a Marxist doesn't know jack about shit. Doesn't even know what Marxism is.

BIDEN does not know. HE is under the influence of
persons LOGICALLY called Marxists (at lease THEY
THEMSELVES fancy themselves marxists)
Another person who has no idea what Marxism is.
 
I suggest that you do it also cracker is a racist term

I agree. It is a term used to CALL somebody racist, not a racist term in itself. Unlike the N word.
fucking trash foreigner I feel so much better knowing I got the chance to put my boot on the throats of a few germans and brits when I was in Germany fucking pussies everyone
Cracker, sometimes white cracker or cracka, is a derogatory term used for white people, used especially against poor rural whites in the Southern United States
 

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