Trump pulling out of Paris Climate Accord

[Lewdog]

That's what's its all about ...God damn son

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Pollution is more than just CO2 emissions....

I bet you're vegan.

And I'll bet you are wrong. And before you go on about some bull shit about cow farts and the such... just because you can't totally cut out ALL pollution doesn't mean you don't try to curb ANY pollution. That's a logical fallacy that so many RWers are hung up on and just don't understand.

We need C02 idiot , this has nothing to do with your mental masturbations of God knows what..

You want to contribute I am sure they take donations....


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We do need it. Plant life needs it. That's what has always made me uneasy about the claim that CO2 is a pollutant. We expel it as we breath so how long before some self righteous nutjob gets power and thinks we need to save the planet through mass genocide

Of course plant life needs it... but if all the plant life is being killed off, then nothing will be there to recycle it. Right now with population growth and deforestation, the world has lost a huge amount of it's trees which are the main ones that help convert CO2 back into oxygen...

 

[Wyatt earp]

How about you just explain how the actual ideology kills people and not the will of the leader, instead of this pointless banter we've gotten into

So in your world you want people in the USA to become communist you stupid fuck?

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For the THIRD time on this thread I will say that I do not support communism at all, I think it is a horrible form of government. Our Democratic Republic is by far the best way to run a country.

My point about communism is very simple so read slow. The ideology of communism does not kill people, as the poster that I was responding to stated, the leader in charge makes that decision. Just like the old gun argument... Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

You posted it ..

Slade3200Gold Member
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I'm seeing all these politicians and analysts from the Right talking about the climate situation and I haven't hear one say it's a hoax. They all acknowledge what science has reported. Only wingnuts like you deny it.

Man made global warming is a hoax.........they say the climate changes...which it does.......science can't predict the local weather a few days out...and yet you want us to believe they can predict the climate 80 years from now....?
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The prediction models are not very accurate but there is concensus from the majority from the left and right that mans actions do have an effect. The severity of that effect is still being studied. I'd compare it to the cigarette/cancer situation
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"Consensus" is not science. It's bullshit politics. The minute you start blabbering about "consensus" you unmask yourself as a con artist.
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It's simply means many many more people agree with that opinion than do yours
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And many people allowed the Germans to murder 6 million Jews.........the same types pushing this stupidity....and even more still think communism, which is responsible for the deaths of 100 million innocent men, women and children, just hasn't been given the right chance.......

So please.....the left wing nutters in Europe and around the world have nothing to teach us....
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1. Communism didn't kill anybody... a narcesistic, charismatic nationalist douchebag did

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Yes I did, and nowhere did I support communism... What are you not understanding? What do you think I was trying to say, I don't think I can make the point any clearer

All your posts in this thread is promoting communism...

Do you even read your own posts?


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Who are you ? Just post shit coming from your ass and then deny it..


Unbelievable..


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[bripat9643]

The ideology is what creates dictators. There is no such thing as a communist who isn't a totalitarian.

Yes the ideology creates a dictator. A dictator decides to kill their citizens or not. Again, if Gandhi was the German dictator instead of hitler we wouldn't have seen the genocide.

Gandhi would never become dictator because he wasn't willing to commit murder to gain power.

Dictators can be democratically elected

"Usually dictators rise to power as a result from democratic elections, but once they're elected, they change the entire political system to ensure that no one else ..."

What is a Dictatorship | Military Dictatorships

By the time democracy has reached the stage where it will elect a dictator, it has already become so corrupt and gone so far down the road to totalitarianism that the final step is virtually an afterthought.

Ok we are in agreement then. The violence that comes as a result of communism is due to corrupt leadership. The ideology enables corrupt leaders to gain power and it is taken advantage of to do so in many instances. Its not communism it is corrupt communist dictators. Just like its not guns its the person using the gun. We good now?

You don't get it. Lord Acton said it best. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Communism gives absolute power to the government. it can destroy you simply by taking away your job and waiting for you to starve. There is no such thing as a non-corrupt government with absolute power.

 

[NoNukes]

i hope we leave, it's the obama last grasp of attempting socialism.

195 nations signed the Paris Accord. The US, Nicaragua, and Syria are the only nations who aren't in the accord. It is not an Obama thing.

Trump is showing the world how stupid America has become, and his supporters love it.

That's not stupid. Stupid is thinking signing a piece of paper will change the climate somehow.

i hope we leave, it's the obama last grasp of attempting socialism.

195 nations signed the Paris Accord. The US, Nicaragua, and Syria are the only nations who aren't in the accord. It is not an Obama thing.

Trump is showing the world how stupid America has become, and his supporters love it.

That's not stupid. Stupid is thinking signing a piece of paper will change the climate somehow.

Signing the paper is only the beginning. Stupid people need to be told such things.

And as further steps have not happened, will not happen, and trump is removing are signature we have officially gone from not accepting it to still not accepting it

You cannot pull out until 2020. Trump has played you again. Hope he was gentle.

 

[Slade3200]

So in your world you want people in the USA to become communist you stupid fuck?

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For the THIRD time on this thread I will say that I do not support communism at all, I think it is a horrible form of government. Our Democratic Republic is by far the best way to run a country.

My point about communism is very simple so read slow. The ideology of communism does not kill people, as the poster that I was responding to stated, the leader in charge makes that decision. Just like the old gun argument... Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

You posted it ..

Slade3200Gold Member
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I'm seeing all these politicians and analysts from the Right talking about the climate situation and I haven't hear one say it's a hoax. They all acknowledge what science has reported. Only wingnuts like you deny it.

Man made global warming is a hoax.........they say the climate changes...which it does.......science can't predict the local weather a few days out...and yet you want us to believe they can predict the climate 80 years from now....?
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The prediction models are not very accurate but there is concensus from the majority from the left and right that mans actions do have an effect. The severity of that effect is still being studied. I'd compare it to the cigarette/cancer situation
Click to expand...
"Consensus" is not science. It's bullshit politics. The minute you start blabbering about "consensus" you unmask yourself as a con artist.
Click to expand...
It's simply means many many more people agree with that opinion than do yours
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And many people allowed the Germans to murder 6 million Jews.........the same types pushing this stupidity....and even more still think communism, which is responsible for the deaths of 100 million innocent men, women and children, just hasn't been given the right chance.......

So please.....the left wing nutters in Europe and around the world have nothing to teach us....
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1. Communism didn't kill anybody... a narcesistic, charismatic nationalist douchebag did

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Yes I did, and nowhere did I support communism... What are you not understanding? What do you think I was trying to say, I don't think I can make the point any clearer

All your posts in this thread is promoting communism...

Do you even read your own posts?


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Who are you ? Just post shit coming from your ass and then deny it..


Unbelievable..


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And there's the childish insult with nothing to back up your argument. I'm about done with this conversation. If your ego needs a win then you can have it... I'm a lying pink commie snowflake. You got me. Good day.

 

[jc456]

well that is exactly the point. do you know why we need to give billions of dollars and China doesn't do anything? you find that acceptable. Again, why you shouldn't be in charge of anything.

Do I need to retype the questions that you completely dodged?

I can't. It's why Trump took us out. You gave the example precisely. good job. Now, can you answer your own question? Cause that is what the accord stated.

Where did the accord state that? Can you post the part that directs us to pay China?

Why didn't you answer why China doesn't do anything with their emissions until 2030? Can't answer that? 8 billion to China and other third worlds. It was explained in Trump's speech yesterday, go read the transcript.

Trump lies on a daily baisis, I don't believe the words coming out of his mouth so I'm asking to see the data from the actual agreement, you can't seem to produce it.

To answer your question, no I don't think it's ok for China to take no actions until 2030, though I haven't seen evidence showing that statement to be true either.

I posted this, did you not read it?

No it doesn't make sense to me... please explain how many billions of dollars were we supposed to give to China? And for doing what?

well that is exactly the point. do you know why we need to give billions of dollars and China doesn't do anything? you find that acceptable. Again, why you shouldn't be in charge of anything.

Do I need to retype the questions that you completely dodged?

I can't. It's why Trump took us out. You gave the example precisely. good job. Now, can you answer your own question? Cause that is what the accord stated.

Where did the accord state that? Can you post the part that directs us to pay China?

Why didn't you answer why China doesn't do anything with their emissions until 2030? Can't answer that? 8 billion to China and other third worlds. It was explained in Trump's speech yesterday, go read the transcript.

here:

"Ensuring finance
In the Paris Agreement, the developed countries reaffirmed the commitment to mobilize $100 billion a year in climate finance by 2020, and agreed to continue mobilizing finance at the level of $100 billion a year until 2025.[42] The commitment refers to the pre-existing plan to provide US$100 billion a year in aid to developing countries for actions on climate change adaptation and mitigation.[43]

Though both mitigation and adaptation require increased climate financing, adaptation has typically received lower levels of support and has mobilised less action from the private sector.[40] A 2014 report by the OECD found that just 16 percent of global finance was directed toward climate adaptation in 2014.[44] The Paris Agreement called for a balance of climate finance between adaptation and mitigation, and specifically underscoring the need to increase adaptation support for parties most vulnerable to the effects of climate change, including Least Developed Countries and Small Island Developing States. The agreement also reminds parties of the importance of public grants, because adaptation measures receive less investment from the public sector.[40] John Kerry, as Secretary of State, announced that grant-based adaptation finance would double by 2020.[28]

Some specific outcomes of the elevated attention to adaptation financing in Paris include the G7 countries' announcement to provide US $420 million for Climate Risk Insurance, and the launching of a Climate Risk and Early Warning Systems (CREWS) Initiative.[45] In early March 2016, the Obama administration gave a $500 million grant to the "Green Climate Fund" as "the first chunk of a $3 billion commitment made at the Paris climate talks."[46][47] [52]So far, the Green Climate Fund has now received over $10 billion in pledges. Notably, the pledges come from developed nations like France, the US, and Japan, but also from developing countries such as Mexico, Indonesia, and Vietnam.[28]"

why do you have difficulty looking up things on google?

wow.

 

[jc456]

For the THIRD time on this thread I will say that I do not support communism at all, I think it is a horrible form of government. Our Democratic Republic is by far the best way to run a country.

My point about communism is very simple so read slow. The ideology of communism does not kill people, as the poster that I was responding to stated, the leader in charge makes that decision. Just like the old gun argument... Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

You posted it ..

Slade3200Gold Member
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I'm seeing all these politicians and analysts from the Right talking about the climate situation and I haven't hear one say it's a hoax. They all acknowledge what science has reported. Only wingnuts like you deny it.

Man made global warming is a hoax.........they say the climate changes...which it does.......science can't predict the local weather a few days out...and yet you want us to believe they can predict the climate 80 years from now....?
Click to expand...
The prediction models are not very accurate but there is concensus from the majority from the left and right that mans actions do have an effect. The severity of that effect is still being studied. I'd compare it to the cigarette/cancer situation
Click to expand...
"Consensus" is not science. It's bullshit politics. The minute you start blabbering about "consensus" you unmask yourself as a con artist.
Click to expand...
It's simply means many many more people agree with that opinion than do yours
Click to expand...

And many people allowed the Germans to murder 6 million Jews.........the same types pushing this stupidity....and even more still think communism, which is responsible for the deaths of 100 million innocent men, women and children, just hasn't been given the right chance.......

So please.....the left wing nutters in Europe and around the world have nothing to teach us....
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1. Communism didn't kill anybody... a narcesistic, charismatic nationalist douchebag did

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Yes I did, and nowhere did I support communism... What are you not understanding? What do you think I was trying to say, I don't think I can make the point any clearer

All your posts in this thread is promoting communism...

Do you even read your own posts?


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Who are you ? Just post shit coming from your ass and then deny it..


Unbelievable..


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And there's the childish insult with nothing to back up your argument. I'm about done with this conversation. If your ego needs a win then you can have it... I'm a lying pink commie snowflake. You got me. Good day.

what do you think the bad boys in France can do to us? It's not a legal binding agreement.

 

[Slade3200]

Yes the ideology creates a dictator. A dictator decides to kill their citizens or not. Again, if Gandhi was the German dictator instead of hitler we wouldn't have seen the genocide.

Gandhi would never become dictator because he wasn't willing to commit murder to gain power.

Dictators can be democratically elected

"Usually dictators rise to power as a result from democratic elections, but once they're elected, they change the entire political system to ensure that no one else ..."

What is a Dictatorship | Military Dictatorships

By the time democracy has reached the stage where it will elect a dictator, it has already become so corrupt and gone so far down the road to totalitarianism that the final step is virtually an afterthought.

Ok we are in agreement then. The violence that comes as a result of communism is due to corrupt leadership. The ideology enables corrupt leaders to gain power and it is taken advantage of to do so in many instances. Its not communism it is corrupt communist dictators. Just like its not guns its the person using the gun. We good now?

You don't get it. Lord Acton said it best. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Communism gives absolute power to the government. it can destroy you simply by taking away your job and waiting for you to starve. There is no such thing as a non-corrupt government with absolute power.

I agree, which is why it is a dangerous ideology. Corruption exists everywhere, from our republic to the monarchy in the Vatican. The amount of corruption ultimately exists in the individual(s) that hold power

 

[Slade3200]

Do I need to retype the questions that you completely dodged?

I can't. It's why Trump took us out. You gave the example precisely. good job. Now, can you answer your own question? Cause that is what the accord stated.

Where did the accord state that? Can you post the part that directs us to pay China?

Why didn't you answer why China doesn't do anything with their emissions until 2030? Can't answer that? 8 billion to China and other third worlds. It was explained in Trump's speech yesterday, go read the transcript.

Trump lies on a daily baisis, I don't believe the words coming out of his mouth so I'm asking to see the data from the actual agreement, you can't seem to produce it.

To answer your question, no I don't think it's ok for China to take no actions until 2030, though I haven't seen evidence showing that statement to be true either.

I posted this, did you not read it?

well that is exactly the point. do you know why we need to give billions of dollars and China doesn't do anything? you find that acceptable. Again, why you shouldn't be in charge of anything.

Do I need to retype the questions that you completely dodged?

I can't. It's why Trump took us out. You gave the example precisely. good job. Now, can you answer your own question? Cause that is what the accord stated.

Where did the accord state that? Can you post the part that directs us to pay China?

Why didn't you answer why China doesn't do anything with their emissions until 2030? Can't answer that? 8 billion to China and other third worlds. It was explained in Trump's speech yesterday, go read the transcript.

here:

"Ensuring finance
In the Paris Agreement, the developed countries reaffirmed the commitment to mobilize $100 billion a year in climate finance by 2020, and agreed to continue mobilizing finance at the level of $100 billion a year until 2025.[42] The commitment refers to the pre-existing plan to provide US$100 billion a year in aid to developing countries for actions on climate change adaptation and mitigation.[43]

Though both mitigation and adaptation require increased climate financing, adaptation has typically received lower levels of support and has mobilised less action from the private sector.[40] A 2014 report by the OECD found that just 16 percent of global finance was directed toward climate adaptation in 2014.[44] The Paris Agreement called for a balance of climate finance between adaptation and mitigation, and specifically underscoring the need to increase adaptation support for parties most vulnerable to the effects of climate change, including Least Developed Countries and Small Island Developing States. The agreement also reminds parties of the importance of public grants, because adaptation measures receive less investment from the public sector.[40] John Kerry, as Secretary of State, announced that grant-based adaptation finance would double by 2020.[28]

Some specific outcomes of the elevated attention to adaptation financing in Paris include the G7 countries' announcement to provide US $420 million for Climate Risk Insurance, and the launching of a Climate Risk and Early Warning Systems (CREWS) Initiative.[45] In early March 2016, the Obama administration gave a $500 million grant to the "Green Climate Fund" as "the first chunk of a $3 billion commitment made at the Paris climate talks."[46][47] [52]So far, the Green Climate Fund has now received over $10 billion in pledges. Notably, the pledges come from developed nations like France, the US, and Japan, but also from developing countries such as Mexico, Indonesia, and Vietnam.[28]"

why do you have difficulty looking up things on google?

wow.

Thanks, that's a good start but I still don't see where an allocation of funds are directed towards china and Russia

 

[bripat9643]

195 nations signed the Paris Accord. The US, Nicaragua, and Syria are the only nations who aren't in the accord. It is not an Obama thing.

Trump is showing the world how stupid America has become, and his supporters love it.

That's not stupid. Stupid is thinking signing a piece of paper will change the climate somehow.

195 nations signed the Paris Accord. The US, Nicaragua, and Syria are the only nations who aren't in the accord. It is not an Obama thing.

Trump is showing the world how stupid America has become, and his supporters love it.

That's not stupid. Stupid is thinking signing a piece of paper will change the climate somehow.

Signing the paper is only the beginning. Stupid people need to be told such things.

And as further steps have not happened, will not happen, and trump is removing are signature we have officially gone from not accepting it to still not accepting it

You cannot pull out until 2020. Trump has played you again. Hope he was gentle.

They won't be getting any checks from the USA, and that's all that matters.

 

[bripat9643]

Gandhi would never become dictator because he wasn't willing to commit murder to gain power.

Dictators can be democratically elected

"Usually dictators rise to power as a result from democratic elections, but once they're elected, they change the entire political system to ensure that no one else ..."

What is a Dictatorship | Military Dictatorships

By the time democracy has reached the stage where it will elect a dictator, it has already become so corrupt and gone so far down the road to totalitarianism that the final step is virtually an afterthought.

Ok we are in agreement then. The violence that comes as a result of communism is due to corrupt leadership. The ideology enables corrupt leaders to gain power and it is taken advantage of to do so in many instances. Its not communism it is corrupt communist dictators. Just like its not guns its the person using the gun. We good now?

You don't get it. Lord Acton said it best. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Communism gives absolute power to the government. it can destroy you simply by taking away your job and waiting for you to starve. There is no such thing as a non-corrupt government with absolute power.

I agree, which is why it is a dangerous ideology. Corruption exists everywhere, from our republic to the monarchy in the Vatican. The amount of corruption ultimately exists in the individual(s) that hold power

You still don't get it.

 

[bripat9643]

You posted it ..

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I'm seeing all these politicians and analysts from the Right talking about the climate situation and I haven't hear one say it's a hoax. They all acknowledge what science has reported. Only wingnuts like you deny it.

Man made global warming is a hoax.........they say the climate changes...which it does.......science can't predict the local weather a few days out...and yet you want us to believe they can predict the climate 80 years from now....?
Click to expand...
The prediction models are not very accurate but there is concensus from the majority from the left and right that mans actions do have an effect. The severity of that effect is still being studied. I'd compare it to the cigarette/cancer situation
Click to expand...
"Consensus" is not science. It's bullshit politics. The minute you start blabbering about "consensus" you unmask yourself as a con artist.
Click to expand...
It's simply means many many more people agree with that opinion than do yours
Click to expand...

And many people allowed the Germans to murder 6 million Jews.........the same types pushing this stupidity....and even more still think communism, which is responsible for the deaths of 100 million innocent men, women and children, just hasn't been given the right chance.......

So please.....the left wing nutters in Europe and around the world have nothing to teach us....
Click to expand...

1. Communism didn't kill anybody... a narcesistic, charismatic nationalist douchebag did

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Yes I did, and nowhere did I support communism... What are you not understanding? What do you think I was trying to say, I don't think I can make the point any clearer

All your posts in this thread is promoting communism...

Do you even read your own posts?


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Who are you ? Just post shit coming from your ass and then deny it..


Unbelievable..


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And there's the childish insult with nothing to back up your argument. I'm about done with this conversation. If your ego needs a win then you can have it... I'm a lying pink commie snowflake. You got me. Good day.

what do you think the bad boys in France can do to us? It's not a legal binding agreement.

They can throw a petulant temper tantrum and call us names.

 

[Avatar4321]

I can't. It's why Trump took us out. You gave the example precisely. good job. Now, can you answer your own question? Cause that is what the accord stated.

Yeah, we can get out 2020. Cities and companies and states can and will continue to negotiate with the UN.

We already got out you idiot.

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Don't waste your time, he lives in an alternate reality.

We are not out, regardless of what you think. You guys are totally ignorant about this.

Tell us oh constitutional scholar... did the U.S. Senate ratify this agreement?

Also did the house approve the spending?

 

[jc456]

I can't. It's why Trump took us out. You gave the example precisely. good job. Now, can you answer your own question? Cause that is what the accord stated.

Where did the accord state that? Can you post the part that directs us to pay China?

Why didn't you answer why China doesn't do anything with their emissions until 2030? Can't answer that? 8 billion to China and other third worlds. It was explained in Trump's speech yesterday, go read the transcript.

Trump lies on a daily baisis, I don't believe the words coming out of his mouth so I'm asking to see the data from the actual agreement, you can't seem to produce it.

To answer your question, no I don't think it's ok for China to take no actions until 2030, though I haven't seen evidence showing that statement to be true either.

I posted this, did you not read it?

Do I need to retype the questions that you completely dodged?

I can't. It's why Trump took us out. You gave the example precisely. good job. Now, can you answer your own question? Cause that is what the accord stated.

Where did the accord state that? Can you post the part that directs us to pay China?

Why didn't you answer why China doesn't do anything with their emissions until 2030? Can't answer that? 8 billion to China and other third worlds. It was explained in Trump's speech yesterday, go read the transcript.

here:

"Ensuring finance
In the Paris Agreement, the developed countries reaffirmed the commitment to mobilize $100 billion a year in climate finance by 2020, and agreed to continue mobilizing finance at the level of $100 billion a year until 2025.[42] The commitment refers to the pre-existing plan to provide US$100 billion a year in aid to developing countries for actions on climate change adaptation and mitigation.[43]

Though both mitigation and adaptation require increased climate financing, adaptation has typically received lower levels of support and has mobilised less action from the private sector.[40] A 2014 report by the OECD found that just 16 percent of global finance was directed toward climate adaptation in 2014.[44] The Paris Agreement called for a balance of climate finance between adaptation and mitigation, and specifically underscoring the need to increase adaptation support for parties most vulnerable to the effects of climate change, including Least Developed Countries and Small Island Developing States. The agreement also reminds parties of the importance of public grants, because adaptation measures receive less investment from the public sector.[40] John Kerry, as Secretary of State, announced that grant-based adaptation finance would double by 2020.[28]

Some specific outcomes of the elevated attention to adaptation financing in Paris include the G7 countries' announcement to provide US $420 million for Climate Risk Insurance, and the launching of a Climate Risk and Early Warning Systems (CREWS) Initiative.[45] In early March 2016, the Obama administration gave a $500 million grant to the "Green Climate Fund" as "the first chunk of a $3 billion commitment made at the Paris climate talks."[46][47] [52]So far, the Green Climate Fund has now received over $10 billion in pledges. Notably, the pledges come from developed nations like France, the US, and Japan, but also from developing countries such as Mexico, Indonesia, and Vietnam.[28]"

why do you have difficulty looking up things on google?

wow.

Thanks, that's a good start but I still don't see where an allocation of funds are directed towards china and Russia

I never said they were.

BTW, here for the other China 2030 piece you didn't know about:

China is working to reach its emissions peak before 2030 deadline, analyst says

"China may aim for an earlier greenhouse gas emissions peak before its 2030 deadline, putting a greater onus on Australia to work with its key trading partner on renewable energy rather than fossil fuels, says a leading Chinese analyst."

 

[jc456]

Yes I did, and nowhere did I support communism... What are you not understanding? What do you think I was trying to say, I don't think I can make the point any clearer

All your posts in this thread is promoting communism...

Do you even read your own posts?


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Who are you ? Just post shit coming from your ass and then deny it..


Unbelievable..


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And there's the childish insult with nothing to back up your argument. I'm about done with this conversation. If your ego needs a win then you can have it... I'm a lying pink commie snowflake. You got me. Good day.

what do you think the bad boys in France can do to us? It's not a legal binding agreement.

They can throw a petulant temper tantrum and call us names.

I give two shits. they are anti american rug rats playing in rabbit holes daily.

 

[jc456]

BTW, it is really sad that the document is not a living one. So no adjustments can ever be made. wow.

 

[jc456]

Yeah, we can get out 2020. Cities and companies and states can and will continue to negotiate with the UN.

We already got out you idiot.

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Don't waste your time, he lives in an alternate reality.

We are not out, regardless of what you think. You guys are totally ignorant about this.

Tell us oh constitutional scholar... did the U.S. Senate ratify this agreement?

Also did the house approve the spending?

how could they, it was never given to congress.

 

[Flash]

The US is decreasing CO2 emissions.

China is increasing CO2 emission.

That idiot Obama signed a stupid climate agreement that had the US paying China money.

How dumb was that?

Why isn't China paying a pollution penalty if reducing CO2 is so damn important? Why didn't that moron Obama insist that be including in the agreement that he signed? What was that dipshit thinking?

 

[toobfreak]

And there's my childish insult with nothing to ever back up any of my arguments. I'm about done with this conversation. If my ego needs another win then you can have it... I'm a lying pink commie snowflake. You got me. Good day.

Glad to see you know what you are.

 

[Slade3200]

Where did the accord state that? Can you post the part that directs us to pay China?

Why didn't you answer why China doesn't do anything with their emissions until 2030? Can't answer that? 8 billion to China and other third worlds. It was explained in Trump's speech yesterday, go read the transcript.

Trump lies on a daily baisis, I don't believe the words coming out of his mouth so I'm asking to see the data from the actual agreement, you can't seem to produce it.

To answer your question, no I don't think it's ok for China to take no actions until 2030, though I haven't seen evidence showing that statement to be true either.

I posted this, did you not read it?

I can't. It's why Trump took us out. You gave the example precisely. good job. Now, can you answer your own question? Cause that is what the accord stated.

Where did the accord state that? Can you post the part that directs us to pay China?

Why didn't you answer why China doesn't do anything with their emissions until 2030? Can't answer that? 8 billion to China and other third worlds. It was explained in Trump's speech yesterday, go read the transcript.

here:

"Ensuring finance
In the Paris Agreement, the developed countries reaffirmed the commitment to mobilize $100 billion a year in climate finance by 2020, and agreed to continue mobilizing finance at the level of $100 billion a year until 2025.[42] The commitment refers to the pre-existing plan to provide US$100 billion a year in aid to developing countries for actions on climate change adaptation and mitigation.[43]

Though both mitigation and adaptation require increased climate financing, adaptation has typically received lower levels of support and has mobilised less action from the private sector.[40] A 2014 report by the OECD found that just 16 percent of global finance was directed toward climate adaptation in 2014.[44] The Paris Agreement called for a balance of climate finance between adaptation and mitigation, and specifically underscoring the need to increase adaptation support for parties most vulnerable to the effects of climate change, including Least Developed Countries and Small Island Developing States. The agreement also reminds parties of the importance of public grants, because adaptation measures receive less investment from the public sector.[40] John Kerry, as Secretary of State, announced that grant-based adaptation finance would double by 2020.[28]

Some specific outcomes of the elevated attention to adaptation financing in Paris include the G7 countries' announcement to provide US $420 million for Climate Risk Insurance, and the launching of a Climate Risk and Early Warning Systems (CREWS) Initiative.[45] In early March 2016, the Obama administration gave a $500 million grant to the "Green Climate Fund" as "the first chunk of a $3 billion commitment made at the Paris climate talks."[46][47] [52]So far, the Green Climate Fund has now received over $10 billion in pledges. Notably, the pledges come from developed nations like France, the US, and Japan, but also from developing countries such as Mexico, Indonesia, and Vietnam.[28]"

why do you have difficulty looking up things on google?

wow.

Thanks, that's a good start but I still don't see where an allocation of funds are directed towards china and Russia

I never said they were.

BTW, here for the other China 2030 piece you didn't know about:

China is working to reach its emissions peak before 2030 deadline, analyst says

"China may aim for an earlier greenhouse gas emissions peak before its 2030 deadline, putting a greater onus on Australia to work with its key trading partner on renewable energy rather than fossil fuels, says a leading Chinese analyst."

Thanks for the info. Doesn't sound like the talking point I've heard all day, that China doesn't have to do anything until 2030. It sounds like they set an emissions goal that they are going to work towards reaching by 2030. Isn't that how things work?