Trump reveals how he would force Mexico to pay for border wall

[Brain357]

Cute. So those of us who are smart enough to know a wall is dumb are lying. Of course.

Everything you "know" is dumb. That's why you're a dumbass. The more you scream against the wall, the more certain we are that it's the smart thing to do.

And, yes, all open borders traitors are liars.

If you think the wall will fix everything then it is you who is the dumbass.

I don't think it will fix "everything." However, it will fix 60% of the problem. That's money well spent.

You, of course, don't want to fix the problem. You're only interested in finding excuses for doing nothing.

If they can't work here they won't come. That is how you fix the problem.

Why is it better to throw then out after they are already here then to keep them out in the first place?

Simple: It isn't. Only douche bags claim it is. Every nation on earth works hard to keep aliens out at the border.

You're just another lying open-borders asshole.

If they can't work here they won't come at all.

 

[Care4all]

I'm thinking that MOST of the money sent to Mexico comes from LEGAL CITIZENS or LEGAL immigrants here and NOT from the 6 million Mexican illegals....

Why should those following the law, be prevented from sending money to families in Mexico?

The more money sent there, the fewer Mexicans needing to come here for money....

 

[bripat9643]

Everything you "know" is dumb. That's why you're a dumbass. The more you scream against the wall, the more certain we are that it's the smart thing to do.

And, yes, all open borders traitors are liars.

If you think the wall will fix everything then it is you who is the dumbass.

I don't think it will fix "everything." However, it will fix 60% of the problem. That's money well spent.

You, of course, don't want to fix the problem. You're only interested in finding excuses for doing nothing.

If they can't work here they won't come. That is how you fix the problem.

Why is it better to throw then out after they are already here then to keep them out in the first place?

Simple: It isn't. Only douche bags claim it is. Every nation on earth works hard to keep aliens out at the border.

You're just another lying open-borders asshole.

If they can't work here they won't come at all.

They won't come if they have to climb a 30 foot wall. With the added bonus that we don't need some Gestapo like enforcement authority to persecute employers. Of course, the later is exactly your motive for your proposal.

 

[Brain357]

If you think the wall will fix everything then it is you who is the dumbass.

I don't think it will fix "everything." However, it will fix 60% of the problem. That's money well spent.

You, of course, don't want to fix the problem. You're only interested in finding excuses for doing nothing.

If they can't work here they won't come. That is how you fix the problem.

Why is it better to throw then out after they are already here then to keep them out in the first place?

Simple: It isn't. Only douche bags claim it is. Every nation on earth works hard to keep aliens out at the border.

You're just another lying open-borders asshole.

If they can't work here they won't come at all.

They won't come if they have to climb a 30 foot wall. With the added bonus that we don't need some Gestapo like enforcement authority to persecute employers. Of course, the later is exactly your motive for your proposal.

Unless they have a 35 foot ladder and a rope. Your billions spent on a wall defeated with a few dollars.

 

[CowboyTed]

His plan sounds unconstitutional.

And since when do republicans approve of telling people what they can do with thier money?

It will also not pay for the wall...

John Oliver had the wall costing $25 billion and totally ineffectual...

What's going to happen when they build the wall and it doesn't work?

 

[bendog]

I'm think that MOST of the money sent to Mexico comes from LEGAL CITIZENS or LEGAL immigrants here and NOT from the 6 million Mexican illegals....

Why should those following the law, be prevented from sending money to families in Mexico?

The more money sent there, the fewer Mexicans needing to come here for money....

MORE importantly, what power does the federal govt have in telling a citizen he/she may not do something with their money that does not violate a criminal law, and how could a law saying a citizen cannot give another person his/her money be consistent with Fifth Amendment?

 

[bendog]

If you think the wall will fix everything then it is you who is the dumbass.

I don't think it will fix "everything." However, it will fix 60% of the problem. That's money well spent.

You, of course, don't want to fix the problem. You're only interested in finding excuses for doing nothing.

If they can't work here they won't come. That is how you fix the problem.

Why is it better to throw then out after they are already here then to keep them out in the first place?

Simple: It isn't. Only douche bags claim it is. Every nation on earth works hard to keep aliens out at the border.

You're just another lying open-borders asshole.

If they can't work here they won't come at all.

They won't come if they have to climb a 30 foot wall. With the added bonus that we don't need some Gestapo like enforcement authority to persecute employers. Of course, the later is exactly your motive for your proposal.

"Jon Snowe, what's THAT?@"

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Funny how people will allow themselves to continually get fucked in the ass because of their disdain for a candidate/President.

"Hey look this is great for America!"
"Fuck that! That guys an asshole!"

Actually, what's not so funny is that every single declaration made by Trumpery has one thing in common: its not possible.

And, in this case, no it would not be "great for America".

Please explain in detail how this is not possible

Okay, here it is....try to follow. The wall is estimated to cost $200 billion...but everybody knows that it will be $400 billion at least with cost overruns. Mexico only gets $60 billion in trade revenue. IT IS NOT COST EFFICIENT! Nobody, nobody, nobody pays for something that they don't want.
The wall will only cause a trade war that the U.S. can't win. We depend on Mexico for half of all our food. Without that food, our grocery bill becomes five times more expensive. Mexican farmers pay their crop pickers 50 cents and hour....American farmers have to pay their crop pickers $7.50 an hour....see the difference?
And that doesn't even consider all the U.S. companies that have their factories in Mexico that will disrupt their production.

All of this illustrates how Trump plays his followers like a kazoo, because he knows they all live in a fairy tail land. He tells fairy tails, and they eat it up like candy.

After reading your second sentence, "the wall is estimated to cost $200 billion", not only did I stop reading I

Reset and try again

If you really want a belly laugh, read what Trumpery has said about the cost. I posted the link earlier in this thread.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I'm think that MOST of the money sent to Mexico comes from LEGAL CITIZENS or LEGAL immigrants here and NOT from the 6 million Mexican illegals....

Why should those following the law, be prevented from sending money to families in Mexico?

The more money sent there, the fewer Mexicans needing to come here for money....

MORE importantly, what power does the federal govt have in telling a citizen he/she may not do something with their money that does not violate a criminal law, and how could a law saying a citizen cannot give another person his/her money be consistent with Fifth Amendment?

Just as he said about eminent domain, that would change under the King Trumpery regime.

What I think is funny is the dummies actually believe he plans to steal ONLY from brown people.

 

[Zander]

So let me get this straight....

Near none of the illegals working and living here have their families with them and are all here alone and sending their money back home to take care of their wife and kids in Mexico??? Huh??? I thought most of the illegals here had families/kids here....?

Remittances to Mexico are bigger than the entire Mexican Oil industry. Mexican workers from the US send money home- lots of money. In 2014 they send $25 billion back to Mexico. Mexico Got More Money From Remittances Than from Oil Revenues in 2015

so they support their immediate families here in the USA and have extra to send home to their mom and dad's as example...?

Wonder how much they spend in U.S.'s economy if they can afford to send 25 billion home to Mexico?

It's not all "illegals" that send money home.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

His plan sounds unconstitutional.

And since when do republicans approve of telling people what they can do with thier money?

It will also not pay for the wall...

John Oliver had the wall costing $25 billion and totally ineffectual...

What's going to happen when they build the wall and it doesn't work?

I posted this earlier and dared the nutters to prove Oliver's point are incorrect.

Needless to say, they all got reeel busy elsewhere.

 

[daws101]

-------------------------------- even if they want to leave mexico the wall and border guards will make them stay and then they might tear down their government and rebuild it Brian . Its a good scenario Brian !!

Yes, it's time for the Mexican People to take on their own Government. That's where the real problems are originating from.

Yes if Mexico was a better place they wouldn't want to come here. But a wall probably won't work, and the people will blame trump, not their own government. It is just giving the gov a scapegoat.

A wall will work. They always have. That's precisely why you object to it.

Yeah a wall will work great when Mexico retaliates by letting Russia or China build a missile base in Tijuana.

Then we can invade Mexico and finish the job we started 150 years ago.

and what make it a state ? you assholes already bitch about too many "Mexicans"
brain dead much?

 

[bripat9643]

I don't think it will fix "everything." However, it will fix 60% of the problem. That's money well spent.

You, of course, don't want to fix the problem. You're only interested in finding excuses for doing nothing.

If they can't work here they won't come. That is how you fix the problem.

Why is it better to throw then out after they are already here then to keep them out in the first place?

Simple: It isn't. Only douche bags claim it is. Every nation on earth works hard to keep aliens out at the border.

You're just another lying open-borders asshole.

If they can't work here they won't come at all.

They won't come if they have to climb a 30 foot wall. With the added bonus that we don't need some Gestapo like enforcement authority to persecute employers. Of course, the later is exactly your motive for your proposal.

Unless they have a 35 foot ladder and a rope. Your billions spent on a wall defeated with a few dollars.

How is that going to work when the staff manning the wall can just drive right up and arrest them?

 

[Brain357]

If they can't work here they won't come. That is how you fix the problem.

Why is it better to throw then out after they are already here then to keep them out in the first place?

Simple: It isn't. Only douche bags claim it is. Every nation on earth works hard to keep aliens out at the border.

You're just another lying open-borders asshole.

If they can't work here they won't come at all.

They won't come if they have to climb a 30 foot wall. With the added bonus that we don't need some Gestapo like enforcement authority to persecute employers. Of course, the later is exactly your motive for your proposal.

Unless they have a 35 foot ladder and a rope. Your billions spent on a wall defeated with a few dollars.

How is that going to work when the staff manning the wall can just drive right up and arrest them?

That is a lot of staff over 2000 miles. If we had that much staff we wouldn't need a wall.

 

[bripat9643]

Why is it better to throw then out after they are already here then to keep them out in the first place?

Simple: It isn't. Only douche bags claim it is. Every nation on earth works hard to keep aliens out at the border.

You're just another lying open-borders asshole.

If they can't work here they won't come at all.

They won't come if they have to climb a 30 foot wall. With the added bonus that we don't need some Gestapo like enforcement authority to persecute employers. Of course, the later is exactly your motive for your proposal.

Unless they have a 35 foot ladder and a rope. Your billions spent on a wall defeated with a few dollars.

How is that going to work when the staff manning the wall can just drive right up and arrest them?

That is a lot of staff over 2000 miles. If we had that much staff we wouldn't need a wall.

That didn't work to well in Hungary. Staff without walls or fences are virtually useless. We already have 10,000 border guards. That should be sufficient. The choice isn't between the wall or staff. That's a false choice presented by people who are opposed to controlling the border.

 

[daws101]

A wall can be built . It's just a waste of money .

Take a look at John Oliver's segment on Trumpery's wall. Yes, its very funny but its also factual and one of the things he points out is that it would almost impossible to actually build a wall like Trumpery says he will build.

The wall is a truly absurd idea that he has no intention of actually doing. He said it to get the ignorant racist vote and its working.

I dare the RWNJs to watch the segment and then FACTUALLY debunk it. I'll try to check back to read those fascinating and illuminating posts.

Why would any intelligent person be interested in what a boob like Oliver has to say?

He makes it obvious why the wall is a silly idea. And it is funny.

That's why bripat9643 is afraid to watch it.

The wall is indeed a silly idea, was never meant to be taken seriously and will never be built.

None of you can explain why it's silly.

really? here we go .....1. the wall will be built by the contractor that low ball's the bidding process .
2. the materials will be low grade .
3. it will use Mexican labor and they wiil for obvious reasons work sloppily and slow driving the cost up.
even though trump makes a lot of noise about making Mexico pay for it inevitably for what ever reason public money will be spent on it .
3 I predict that there will be tunnels and other way and routes around over and thru the walls defenses .
it will be another bridge to nowhere.

 

[bripat9643]

Take a look at John Oliver's segment on Trumpery's wall. Yes, its very funny but its also factual and one of the things he points out is that it would almost impossible to actually build a wall like Trumpery says he will build.

The wall is a truly absurd idea that he has no intention of actually doing. He said it to get the ignorant racist vote and its working.

I dare the RWNJs to watch the segment and then FACTUALLY debunk it. I'll try to check back to read those fascinating and illuminating posts.

Why would any intelligent person be interested in what a boob like Oliver has to say?

He makes it obvious why the wall is a silly idea. And it is funny.

That's why bripat9643 is afraid to watch it.

The wall is indeed a silly idea, was never meant to be taken seriously and will never be built.

None of you can explain why it's silly.

really? here we go .....1. the wall will be built by the contractor that low ball's the bidding process .
2. the materials will be low grade .
3. it will use Mexican labor and they wiil for obvious reasons work sloppily and slow driving the cost up.
even though trump makes a lot of noise about making Mexico pay for it inevitably for what ever reason public money will be spent on it .
3 I predict that there will be tunnels and other way and routes around over and thru the walls defenses .
it will be another bridge to nowhere.

So your position is that everything the government does will be a disaster? really?

Aren't you one of the douche bags who constantly whines that the government needs to spend more on infrastructure?

 

[daws101]

Why would any intelligent person be interested in what a boob like Oliver has to say?

He makes it obvious why the wall is a silly idea. And it is funny.

That's why bripat9643 is afraid to watch it.

The wall is indeed a silly idea, was never meant to be taken seriously and will never be built.

None of you can explain why it's silly.

really? here we go .....1. the wall will be built by the contractor that low ball's the bidding process .
2. the materials will be low grade .
3. it will use Mexican labor and they wiil for obvious reasons work sloppily and slow driving the cost up.
even though trump makes a lot of noise about making Mexico pay for it inevitably for what ever reason public money will be spent on it .
3 I predict that there will be tunnels and other way and routes around over and thru the walls defenses .
it will be another bridge to nowhere.

So your position is that everything the government does will be a disaster? really?

Aren't you one of the douche bags who constantly whines that the government needs to spend more on infrastructure?

in the case of building a giant retaining wall yes it will be a disaster .
besides fuck wit a wall to keep "them" out. is not infrastructure..

 

[Brain357]

If they can't work here they won't come at all.

They won't come if they have to climb a 30 foot wall. With the added bonus that we don't need some Gestapo like enforcement authority to persecute employers. Of course, the later is exactly your motive for your proposal.

Unless they have a 35 foot ladder and a rope. Your billions spent on a wall defeated with a few dollars.

How is that going to work when the staff manning the wall can just drive right up and arrest them?

That is a lot of staff over 2000 miles. If we had that much staff we wouldn't need a wall.

That didn't work to well in Hungary. Staff without walls or fences are virtually useless. We already have 10,000 border guards. That should be sufficient. The choice isn't between the wall or staff. That's a falls choice presented by people who are opposed to controlling the border.

We did complete lots of fencing and you say we have lots of staff. Yet else still have tons of illegals. More fencing won't make a difference.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

How about capture some illegals and force them to build the wall?