Trump Speech: Declaring American Economic Independence

[Brain357]

So why does Trump use overseas or foreign companies to produce the products he sells?

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

 

[Moonglow]

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

All talk....If he was sincere he would shift that production home....Until he does, he's a liar in my eyes......The USA produces many products, yet these companies stay in the USA...Foreign manufacturers come to the USA and produce their goods..Why can't Trump, oh yeah, cheap labor from sweat shops......

Why would he, as a business man, do something that's hurts his bottom line? You expect too much selflessness from people.

As President He'll work to make it MORE PROFITABLE to manufacture stuff here but right now it isn't.

Why? To not look like a hypocrite...

He's not a hypocrite if as a CEO he does what is best for his businesses and as President he does what is best for his country.

They know that, they just want to use gotcha's to stop anyone from listening to what he has to say.

You can listen all you want, it's a free country..

 

[Moonglow]

So why does Trump use overseas or foreign companies to produce the products he sells?

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

First Trump will have to get Congress to reverse course on all the trade treaties...

 

[Slyhunter]

So why does Trump use overseas or foreign companies to produce the products he sells?

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

Make goods made overseas more expensive than it cost to make them here and the jobs will come.

 

[Correll]

Do you support outsourcing?

Because Trump is running against it, and Hillary is not.

Are you joking? The guy even imported his wife.

Your gotcha is noted.

So, Do you support outsourcing?

Because Trump is running against it, and Hillary is not.

I think expecting to change it with tariffs is a dangerous game. Consumers here in the US pay for tariffs.

Being the world's bitch on Trade HAS BEEN a dangerous game.

MILLIONS OF LIVES HAVE BEEN RUINED OR SERIOUSLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.

With no attempt at changing policy by the POlitical class for that entire time.

Explain. We can buy huge tvs for cheap.

You think tariffs will work? Cause again, US consumers pay tariffs.

They have in the past.

When plants shut down, towns die, people lives are fucked up.

A few dollars a hour difference in wages can make the difference between a marriage that fails and a marriage that succeeds.

A few dollars a hour difference in wages can make the difference between a couple that manages to scrap by and one that feels confident enough to start a family.

 

[Moonglow]

So why does Trump use overseas or foreign companies to produce the products he sells?

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

Make goods made overseas more expensive than it cost to make them here and the jobs will come.

When Hoover tried that in 1930 it was a disaster...

 

[Correll]

So why does Trump use overseas or foreign companies to produce the products he sells?

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

And that is a worst case scenario.

 

[Correll]

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

Make goods made overseas more expensive than it cost to make them here and the jobs will come.

When Hoover tried that in 1930 it was a disaster...

When America tried it in the 1700 and 1800s and early 1900s it was a success.

 

[Correll]

So why does Trump use overseas or foreign companies to produce the products he sells?

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

First Trump will have to get Congress to reverse course on all the trade treaties...

Will he? Or is that an executive branch function?

Besides, how many congressmen do you think want to go on record as being against bringing jobs back to America?

 

[Moonglow]

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

First Trump will have to get Congress to reverse course on all the trade treaties...

Will he? Or is that an executive branch function?

Besides, how many congressmen do you think want to go on record as being against bringing jobs back to America?

NAFTA was a passed by Congress, guess who has to change that law?

 

[LoneLaugher]

I am still waiting for the details. I guess they aren't coming.

He was smooth as silk on that prompter, though.

 

[g5000]

"George Washington said that "the promotion of domestic manufactur[ing] will be among the first consequences to flow from an energetic government.”

He said this during the period the US was stealing textile manufacturing technology from Britain. That was the cutting edge tech of the time, and even then America knew that to be competitive we had to have ye jobs of tomorrow, not ye jobs of yesteryere.

We win by being innovative and by having a highly educated workforce.

 

[g5000]

Slater the Traitor: Samuel Slater - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LoneLaugher]

How is Trump going to make it so American construction companies use American steel? Does anyone care how that is supposed to work?

 

[Brain357]

So why does Trump use overseas or foreign companies to produce the products he sells?

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

Make goods made overseas more expensive than it cost to make them here and the jobs will come.

If they become too expensive nobody will be buying them, that doesn't create jobs.

How many jobs do we lose when China responds with more tariffs?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Why Donald Trump Is Wrong About Manufacturing Jobs and China - The New Yorker

 

[Brain357]

Are you joking? The guy even imported his wife.

Your gotcha is noted.

So, Do you support outsourcing?

Because Trump is running against it, and Hillary is not.

I think expecting to change it with tariffs is a dangerous game. Consumers here in the US pay for tariffs.

Being the world's bitch on Trade HAS BEEN a dangerous game.

MILLIONS OF LIVES HAVE BEEN RUINED OR SERIOUSLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.

With no attempt at changing policy by the POlitical class for that entire time.

Explain. We can buy huge tvs for cheap.

You think tariffs will work? Cause again, US consumers pay tariffs.

They have in the past.

When plants shut down, towns die, people lives are fucked up.

A few dollars a hour difference in wages can make the difference between a marriage that fails and a marriage that succeeds.

A few dollars a hour difference in wages can make the difference between a couple that manages to scrap by and one that feels confident enough to start a family.

Give examples of success.

 

[Moonglow]

How is Trump going to make it so American construction companies use American steel? Does anyone care how that is supposed to work?

Since they will mostly sell the cheapest steel, no matter where it comes from..

 

[Moonglow]

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

Make goods made overseas more expensive than it cost to make them here and the jobs will come.

If they become too expensive nobody will be buying them, that doesn't create jobs.

How many jobs do we lose when China responds with more tariffs?

With a recession or a depression..Many..Since that is what it will cause.........

 

[Slyhunter]

It's very simple as a CEO of manufacturing companies or retail, whatever, he gets his stuff made the cheapest possible for the best quality possible to maximize profit.
As President he's going to try to make it more feasible to be profitable with made in America stuff.

I'm more than willing to discuss his trade proposal without going into the nonsensicalness, and outright duplicity of his tax proposals.

However, his proposal does not do what you said he'd attempt "to make it more feasible to be profitable with [stuff] made in America". Our major imports from China are computers, cell phones, and other electrical equipment. We aren't going to make that stuff cheaper than China does. If we could, mfters wouldn't have moved jobs There in the first place.

So, what Trump is suggesting is we use tariffs (which would set off a trade war that we'd lose because China can call in our debt) OR he'd give mfters subsidies or tax breaks to make stuff here (which might or might not set off a trade war. China might not call in our debt, but they'd stop buying cars and petroleum and ore from us). In either event the stuff maftered here would cost more, SO biz and consumers have to pay more.

He's oversimplifying things. We had this debate back in the 80s, and Trump's side, and labor, lost. Americans wanted the best/cheapest stuff regardless of whether Americans lost jobs. Trump blames the Clintons. The Clintons are certainly poster children for the pro-trade anti-labor DLC. But the DLC premised taxing the benefits of trade to pay for education and social services. They were unable to get congress to go along.

Right now we make cheap stuff in China while Americans can't afford rent and food because they have no jobs. By putting in tariffs and doing a trade war, stuff will become more expensive. More Americans will have jobs again and be able to afford rent and food made in America. True some things like big screen tv's will be too expensive for the normal American to buy but that is as it should be, as long as they can afford the necessities. I'm not talking about the rich Americans, I'm talking about the poor ones.

Most economists disagree with that. How big do the tariffs gets before it creates jobs? What if they don't create jobs? Then it is just a new sales tax.

Make goods made overseas more expensive than it cost to make them here and the jobs will come.

If they become too expensive nobody will be buying them, that doesn't create jobs.

How many jobs do we lose when China responds with more tariffs?

The people manufacturing them will buy them. With jobs comes income to buy stuff with.