Trump Spreads Confusion over the Entire Political Scene.

[Donald H]

Rump thinks he can buy whatever he wants including "approval". Pretty simple.

As for flying in the face of "Republican values" that should surprise no one. Orange Crash has never had any politics beyond "Numero Uno".

That explanation carries some pretty strong credibility but I can't accept it completely because it would show my bias for your leftist opinion. It does however, strongly beg the question for a better explanation.

And the fact can't be ignored now that McConnell has lost his legs below the knees at least.

The big question remains: What will the Repubs do now? Uphold McConnell and Republican priorities or turn to Trump and his christmas gift awakening in the tradition of Scrooge?

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump has said from the start he wanted help for the people....$600 is not help....its a slap in the face....but what Trump could not sign onto was all of the pork shoved into the bill in the dark of night...deals made between the senate and the house that Trumps team had no knowledge of until the bill arrived on his desk....

Excellent! You're saying that Trump has had an Ebeneezer Scrouge kind of awakening and he's rejected all his ideals of Republican priorities and adopted a mindset of sharing and caring.

I know the fake news agencies even FOX are claiming Trumps team negotiated the deal which they did but they were not a part of the pork deal...that was between the two houses.....

Is it imaginative enough to capture the hearts of the American people in the same way it's captured your heart?

Do you have any feelings for McConnell who has just had his legs cut out from under him by Trump?
Will the Republican party rally behind McConnell or Trump?

It seems that they're going to have to make a choice and guessing on what that choice will be is the fun we can have on this thread.

Trump was willing to sign the $600 relief amount just to finally get some help for the people before Christmas but not when he saw all of the foreign aid and other pork packed in...no one with a warm soul could have signed that nonsense...
Why aren't you asking why...at a time like this our leaders would want to send 20 billion dollars to other nations for things unrelated to covid?....why aren't you peppering Pelosi with that question?....who is paying these people...us or China?.....

 

[the other mike]

The reason why Trump has to buy people is obviously because over 80 million of them aren't on his side. That is, assuming that those voters are real voters and not just phony ballots? Is that safe to say? LOL

It's 80 million alleged voters who are lied to by the mainstream press on a daily basis.
Big tech censored the October surprise - which will come back to bite them. The story is bigger than ever but the bigger story is the 1984-like fashion they censored it from the general public. (And by general public, I'm excluding us 20 % of the population who actually do the research.)

 

[Donald H]

He cares! He doesn't care for Republican's traditional agenda as upheld by McConnell because he cares for the people more. I can buy into that, even though it's a complete 180! Sort of a Christmas gift 180 by Trump?

It's possible but the huge compromise points a little more likely to it being an attempt to buy the people with the additional 1400 bucks. But thanks for the idea!

Why does Trump need to "buy people" ?
Us who support him are already sold and you who hate him
obviously have already sold out.

Unless you believe that big tech and big media are on the up and up, and not 100% in bed with the DNC. (and China)

You're quite wrong in thinking I hate Trump. I've said many times that I prefer him on US foreign policy over Biden and the Dem hawks. And so obviously no leftist like me could ever be opposed to Trump's move to give the people 1400 more bucks!

It's just that it flies directly in the face of the Republican party and cuts the legs right out from under McConnell. Do you think the left isn't laughing their a--es off over this?

The reason why Trump has to buy people is obviously because over 80 million of them aren't on his side. That is, assuming that those voters are real voters and not just phony ballots? Is that safe to say? LOL

Why would the left be laughing? They still have to get a bill passed and right now they are $1400 per check short.....

Just laughing because McConnell legs were cut from under him and Trump is now supporting their agenda.

It's far from a sure thing that the R's will support Trump! What do you think? LOL

 

[Rambunctious]

It's easily explained in that Trump is asking for the $600 to be increased to $2000! This runs contrary to all traditional Republican principles and exactly in line with The wishes of the Democratic party.
Trump has cut McConnell's legs out from under him.

And so this calls for somehow determining Trump's motive.

The only motive I can offer is that Trump is making a country wide appeal to the people, based on what might be called need or even perhaps greed?

Right or wrong, according to political preferences, it's become a tactic that can be either a boost for Trump's populatiry, or it will be a backbreaker for Trump if the Republican party sees this as the last straw.

Does anybody have any better explanations for Trump's behaviour? Opinions?

Trump is not playing politics.
He cares.
Is that so hard to believe ?

No, not "hard". IMPOSSIBLE. Rump has literally never cared for anything in his life beyond Numero Uno.
What that means is that if he's spending money (especially not his own money) ----- he's buying/expecting something in ROI.

It ain't exactly rocket surgery.

You are an absolute clown...what has happened to you?.....you just make shit up and toss it at the board....maybe you should find a Disney message board to post on and give us a break.....

 

[Rambunctious]

He cares! He doesn't care for Republican's traditional agenda as upheld by McConnell because he cares for the people more. I can buy into that, even though it's a complete 180! Sort of a Christmas gift 180 by Trump?

It's possible but the huge compromise points a little more likely to it being an attempt to buy the people with the additional 1400 bucks. But thanks for the idea!

Why does Trump need to "buy people" ?
Us who support him are already sold and you who hate him
obviously have already sold out.

Unless you believe that big tech and big media are on the up and up, and not 100% in bed with the DNC. (and China)

You're quite wrong in thinking I hate Trump. I've said many times that I prefer him on US foreign policy over Biden and the Dem hawks. And so obviously no leftist like me could ever be opposed to Trump's move to give the people 1400 more bucks!

It's just that it flies directly in the face of the Republican party and cuts the legs right out from under McConnell. Do you think the left isn't laughing their a--es off over this?

The reason why Trump has to buy people is obviously because over 80 million of them aren't on his side. That is, assuming that those voters are real voters and not just phony ballots? Is that safe to say? LOL

Why would the left be laughing? They still have to get a bill passed and right now they are $1400 per check short.....

Just laughing because McConnell legs were cut from under him and Trump is now supporting their agenda.

It's far from a sure thing that the R's will support Trump! What do you think? LOL

McConnell is a jackass...say isn't he married to a China doll?....but as big of an ass he is he beats AOC and her ilk....

 

[jbrownson0831]

He cares! He doesn't care for Republican's traditional agenda as upheld by McConnell because he cares for the people more. I can buy into that, even though it's a complete 180! Sort of a Christmas gift 180 by Trump?

It's possible but the huge compromise points a little more likely to it being an attempt to buy the people with the additional 1400 bucks. But thanks for the idea!

Why does Trump need to "buy people" ?
Us who support him are already sold and you who hate him
obviously have already sold out.

Unless you believe that big tech and big media are on the up and up, and not 100% in bed with the DNC. (and China)

You're quite wrong in thinking I hate Trump. I've said many times that I prefer him on US foreign policy over Biden and the Dem hawks. And so obviously no leftist like me could ever be opposed to Trump's move to give the people 1400 more bucks!

It's just that it flies directly in the face of the Republican party and cuts the legs right out from under McConnell. Do you think the left isn't laughing their a--es off over this?

The reason why Trump has to buy people is obviously because over 80 million of them aren't on his side. That is, assuming that those voters are real voters and not just phony ballots? Is that safe to say? LOL

Why would the left be laughing? They still have to get a bill passed and right now they are $1400 per check short.....

Just laughing because McConnell legs were cut from under him and Trump is now supporting their agenda.

It's far from a sure thing that the R's will support Trump! What do you think? LOL

The Rs will demand the ridiculous overseas pork be used to pay for the checks...what any reasonable group would do. Then you will see what Pelosi's real intent is.

 

[Pogo]

Rump thinks he can buy whatever he wants including "approval". Pretty simple. Exactly the same reason he insisted on slapping his name on the first stimulus checks, to look as if he paid people himself. Strangely the checks made no mention of the fact that the first Congresscritters to come up with the idea were Mitt Romney and AOC.

As for flying in the face of "Republican values" that should surprise no one. Orange Crash has never had any politics beyond "Numero Uno".

That explanation carries some pretty strong credibility but I can't accept it completely because it would show my bias for your leftist opinion. It does however, strongly beg the question for a better explanation.

And the fact can't be ignored now that McConnell has lost his legs below the knees at least.

The big question remains: What will the Repubs do now? Uphold McConnell and Republican priorities or turn to Trump and his christmas gift awakening in the tradition of Scrooge?

Has nothing in the world to do with "left" or "right". You zipped right past my crucial underlying point where I noted that Orange Crash has never had any politics. Y'all who keep trying to define a deranged psychopath in terms of "left and right" will never grok the point.

Hell, your own OP makes the same point, doesn't it.

As for McConnell, it would seem more useful to go after his hands, considering how they've atrophied.

 

[the other mike]

No, not "hard". IMPOSSIBLE. Rump has literally never cared for anything in his life beyond Numero Uno.
What that means is that if he's spending money (especially not his own money) ----- he's buying/expecting something in ROI.

It ain't exactly rocket surgery.

Nothing to add to the debate except the same old Trump-hate talking points ?
Repetitive, disruptive trolling is unacceptable on the clean debate board.

 

[Donald H]

Trump was willing to sign the $600 relief amount just to finally get some help for the people before Christmas but not when he saw all of the foreign aid and other pork packed in...no one with a warm soul could have signed that nonsense...
Why aren't you asking why...at a time like this our leaders would want to send 20 billion dollars to other nations for things unrelated to covid?....why aren't you peppering Pelosi with that question?....who is paying these people...us or China?.....

None of your questions or issues are my issues but I'll ask whatever question you like. I'm a Canadian and I'm on the humourous end of the questions.

And the big question is of course on whether the R congress is going to back McConnell and their traditions or they will back Trump.
If any of this causes you to be angry then it's probably best if you don't try to answer.

 

[Pogo]

No, not "hard". IMPOSSIBLE. Rump has literally never cared for anything in his life beyond Numero Uno.
What that means is that if he's spending money (especially not his own money) ----- he's buying/expecting something in ROI.

It ain't exactly rocket surgery.

Nothing to add to the debate except the same old Trump-hate talking points ?
Repetitive, disruptive trolling is unacceptable on the clean debate board.

Actually what's unacceptable is sitting around whining WAAAH NOBODY'S OPINION BUT MINE COUNTS WAAAH

 

[Donald H]

Has nothing in the world to do with "left" or "right". You zipped right past my crucial underlying point where I noted that Orange Crash has never had any politics. Y'all who keep trying to define a deranged psychopath in terms of "left and right" will never grok the point.

As for McConnell, it would seem more useful to go after his hands, considering how they've atrophied.

I refrain from agreeing that Trump never had any politics because that would show my bias and that's not necessary here. Assume what suits your agenda and you'll probably be right. Your comment on McConnell's hands isn't helpful here.

 

[the other mike]

Actually what's unacceptable is sitting around whining WAAAH NOBODY'S OPINION BUT MINE COUNTS WAAAH

Trump tried to get this through in August while your girl Nancy
blocked it. This would have been our 3rd round, instead of second.

 

[Pogo]

Has nothing in the world to do with "left" or "right". You zipped right past my crucial underlying point where I noted that Orange Crash has never had any politics. Y'all who keep trying to define a deranged psychopath in terms of "left and right" will never grok the point.

As for McConnell, it would seem more useful to go after his hands, considering how they've atrophied.

I refrain from agreeing that Trump never had any politics because that would show my bias and that's not necessary here. Assume what suits your agenda and you'll probably be right. Your comment on McConnell's hands isn't helpful here.

The latter is what's known as a "joke". Maybe your jokes in Canada are metric, eh?
See what I did there?

Now then, essplain how simple observation that Rump's dastardity is a personal rather than political trait somehow means a "bias". You understand what the word "bias" means?

And how exactly do you resist the point of the whole dynamic being outside the thrusts of "left/right" politics, when you yourself made the same point in the OP? Pick a side already.

 

[Donald H]

No, not "hard". IMPOSSIBLE. Rump has literally never cared for anything in his life beyond Numero Uno.
What that means is that if he's spending money (especially not his own money) ----- he's buying/expecting something in ROI.

It ain't exactly rocket surgery.

Nothing to add to the debate except the same old Trump-hate talking points ?
Repetitive, disruptive trolling is unacceptable on the clean debate board.

Actually what's unacceptable is sitting around whining WAAAH NOBODY'S OPINION BUT MINE COUNTS WAAAH

I've hoped from the beginning that this thread wouldn't degenerate down to silly fighting over the issue. After all, there's nothing to fight over yet. The R's in congress haven't chosen either McC or Trump yet, as far as I know?

 

[Donald H]

Has nothing in the world to do with "left" or "right". You zipped right past my crucial underlying point where I noted that Orange Crash has never had any politics. Y'all who keep trying to define a deranged psychopath in terms of "left and right" will never grok the point.

As for McConnell, it would seem more useful to go after his hands, considering how they've atrophied.

I refrain from agreeing that Trump never had any politics because that would show my bias and that's not necessary here. Assume what suits your agenda and you'll probably be right. Your comment on McConnell's hands isn't helpful here.

The latter is what's known as a "joke". Maybe your jokes in Canada are metric, eh?
See what I did there?

Now then, essplain how simple observation that Rump's dastardity is a personal rather than political trait somehow means a "bias". You understand what the word "bias" means?

Please don't push the rules of this section with unnecessary spamming.

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump was willing to sign the $600 relief amount just to finally get some help for the people before Christmas but not when he saw all of the foreign aid and other pork packed in...no one with a warm soul could have signed that nonsense...
Why aren't you asking why...at a time like this our leaders would want to send 20 billion dollars to other nations for things unrelated to covid?....why aren't you peppering Pelosi with that question?....who is paying these people...us or China?.....

None of your questions or issues are my issues but I'll ask whatever question you like. I'm a Canadian and I'm on the humourous end of the questions.

And the big question is of course on whether the R congress is going to back McConnell and their traditions or they will back Trump.
If any of this causes you to be angry then it's probably best if you don't try to answer.

If you are Canadian then why do you care?...aren't there boards dedicated to Canadian politics?...or have they successfully crushed free speech in Canada?....

But to answer your question since you asked nicely...

I don't see one bit of daylight between elected republicans and elected democrats...at least not in things important to us....they may not have anything in common regarding policy....but they do have one very big thing in common...the "elected" part...they are all in the elected class and that they hold dear.....its like an unspoken pact between them.....

 

[Pogo]

Has nothing in the world to do with "left" or "right". You zipped right past my crucial underlying point where I noted that Orange Crash has never had any politics. Y'all who keep trying to define a deranged psychopath in terms of "left and right" will never grok the point.

As for McConnell, it would seem more useful to go after his hands, considering how they've atrophied.

I refrain from agreeing that Trump never had any politics because that would show my bias and that's not necessary here. Assume what suits your agenda and you'll probably be right. Your comment on McConnell's hands isn't helpful here.

The latter is what's known as a "joke". Maybe your jokes in Canada are metric, eh?
See what I did there?

Now then, essplain how simple observation that Rump's dastardity is a personal rather than political trait somehow means a "bias". You understand what the word "bias" means?

And how exactly do you resist the point of the whole dynamic being outside the thrusts of "left/right" politics, when you yourself made the same point in the OP? Pick a side already.

Please don't push the rules of this section with unnecessary spamming.

Hey you directly solicited opinions, and you're getting them. Now you want to shut mine down because I've confronted you on a contradiction?

As for "spamming" fantasies see post 29, of which you remain remarkably silent.

 

[Donald H]

Trump tried to get this through in August while your girl Nancy
blocked it. This would have been our 3rd round, instead of second.

If that's true then wouldn't it have been the Republicans who blocked it? Whatever, it's all the same to me. And there's no way of counterspinning the fact that McConnell's legs are missing below the knees!

 

[the other mike]

I've hoped from the beginning that this thread wouldn't degenerate down to silly fighting over the issue. After all, there's nothing to fight over yet. The R's in congress haven't chosen either McC or Trump yet, as far as I know?

Wishful thinking around here. Trump derangement syndrome rules here - it's literally been the equivalent of a collective evaporation of brain cells like that Riddler scene in Batman Forever.