Trump to defund 4 democrat run cities

[colfax_m]

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No more powerful than any other public employee union that liberals typically support

there can be bad cops

but by looting and rioting in the streets, supported by the democrat party who want to defund the police, liberals are forcing the public to choose between the boys in blue and law and order, or thieves, rapists and murderers.

Far more powerful. Last I checked the police have a tremendous authority that janitors and teachers have. I don't get investigated, arrested and prosecuted because of a teacher. Teachers aren't out there shooting civilians or kneeling on people until they're dead.

You're presenting a false dilemma. What we all want is a police force that is responsive, responsible and accountable. We do that, the looting and rioting goes away.

Cops are being summarily fired from their jobs by the autocrats at city hall.

and then targeted for extermination by the district attorney

that does not sound like a powerful union to me

Yep. And what happens? Their union gets involved and they get rehired, often with back pay.

Remember that cop that stood outside Parkland as kids inside were being murdered? Fired.

Oh, but guess what. The union went through arbitration and won, he was rehired with back pay.

Cop who was fired after Parkland shooting will get his job back: Union

One of the officers fired over their handling of the 2018 Parkland shooting will be reinstated, according to his union.

abcnews.go.com

You hear about the firings, you never hear about them being rehired because the union gets the decision reversed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/investigations/police-fired-rehired/

A judge got Officer Friendly rehired, not the union

as I pointed out there are bad cops and he is a prime example

but unlike liberals I dont choose to hate all cops because of him

I don't hate all cops either, but if the system allows bad cops to get off without accountability, then the system needs to change.

And the union definitely got him rehired. Who do you think took this to arbitration?

 

[Marion Morrison]

And we don’t think giving money to corrupt unaccountable police forces is a wise use of taxpayer dollars.

But oh boy, did the left get hammered for talking about defunding the police.

In most cities the police chief is appointed by a flaming liberal democrat mayor and city council

and is tightly controlled by the liberals running that city

so you are only using cops as a scapegoat by pandering to the criminals instead of protecting honest citizens

Total fantasy. The police are not tightly controlled by the liberals running the city.

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No public employees should be allowed to have unions. Who advocated for government workers to have unions?

Democrats.

 

[colfax_m]

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No more powerful than any other public employee union that liberals typically support

there can be bad cops

but by looting and rioting in the streets, supported by the democrat party who want to defund the police, liberals are forcing the public to choose between the boys in blue and law and order, or thieves, rapists and murderers.

Far more powerful. Last I checked the police have a tremendous authority that janitors and teachers have. I don't get investigated, arrested and prosecuted because of a teacher. Teachers aren't out there shooting civilians or kneeling on people until they're dead.

You're presenting a false dilemma. What we all want is a police force that is responsive, responsible and accountable. We do that, the looting and rioting goes away.

We already have one. The fact that you can point to fewer than a handful of wrongs is proof of that.

The fact that so many wrongs occur without accountability is proof that we don't have that.

Police protecting their own is a huge problem.

There HAS been accountability. If you looked into the numbers, you'd know that.

I disagree.

Independent investigation launched into police department's handling of officer found drunk behind wheel

The uniformed officer was found passed out drunk behind the wheel of an unmarked police car.

abcnews.go.com

Cop pulled out of his squad car asleep at a stop light. His "brothers" took him to the hospital. How kind. Oh, but no one suspected he was drunk so no evidence was ever gathered and therefore could not be prosecuted. Keep in mind, he was so drunk he was literally passed out and unresponsive and the camera footage shows that they were talking about the odor of alcohol.

But I guess it just slipped their minds...

 

[colfax_m]

And we don’t think giving money to corrupt unaccountable police forces is a wise use of taxpayer dollars.

But oh boy, did the left get hammered for talking about defunding the police.

In most cities the police chief is appointed by a flaming liberal democrat mayor and city council

and is tightly controlled by the liberals running that city

so you are only using cops as a scapegoat by pandering to the criminals instead of protecting honest citizens

Total fantasy. The police are not tightly controlled by the liberals running the city.

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No public employees should be allowed to have unions. Who advocated for government workers to have unions?
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Democrats.

Au contraire.

An example. You might remember a big kerfuffle in Wisconsin around 2011 when a Republican governor and majority slammed through Act 10, sharply curtailing the authority and power of public sector unions.

Guess who they exempted?

Police.

Republicans advocate for public sector unions, as long as those unions support them.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't hate all cops either, but if the system allows bad cops to get off without accountability, then the system needs to change.

From the string of “not guilty” verdicts handed down by juries going back to obama Rose Garden beer summit cops are not getting away with murder

they are doing their job and liberals just call it murder

 

[Marion Morrison]

And we don’t think giving money to corrupt unaccountable police forces is a wise use of taxpayer dollars.

But oh boy, did the left get hammered for talking about defunding the police.

In most cities the police chief is appointed by a flaming liberal democrat mayor and city council

and is tightly controlled by the liberals running that city

so you are only using cops as a scapegoat by pandering to the criminals instead of protecting honest citizens

Total fantasy. The police are not tightly controlled by the liberals running the city.

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No public employees should be allowed to have unions. Who advocated for government workers to have unions?
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Democrats.

Au contraire.

An example. You might remember a big kerfuffle in Wisconsin around 2011 when a Republican governor and majority slammed through Act 10, sharply curtailing the authority and power of public sector unions.

Guess who they exempted?

Police.

Republicans advocate for public sector unions, as long as those unions support them.

Well isn't that just some "after the fact" bullshit!

 

[colfax_m]

I don't hate all cops either, but if the system allows bad cops to get off without accountability, then the system needs to change.

From the string of “not guilty” verdicts handed down by juries going back to obama Rose Garden beer summit cops are not getting away with murder

they are doing their job and liberals just call it murder

That’s the deference that police are given. They’re given every benefit of the doubt.

Philando Castile was reaching for his wallet to get his ID as instructed after politely telling the cop that he had a firearm. His death was completely unnecessary. No conviction. No accountability. It’s like Castile’s life wasn’t worth anything.

Daniel Shaver was shot in a hallway in a hotel after a cop was screaming at him scaring the living crap out of a guy who didn’t do anything wrong. His death was completely unnecessary. No conviction. No accountability. His life wasn’t worthy anything either.

Just because the juries found them innocent doesn’t mean that’s how we want the police to act. Gunning down Castile and Shaver was not “doing their job”. Neither instance did anything to protect and defend the people of the community.

 

[colfax_m]

And we don’t think giving money to corrupt unaccountable police forces is a wise use of taxpayer dollars.

But oh boy, did the left get hammered for talking about defunding the police.

In most cities the police chief is appointed by a flaming liberal democrat mayor and city council

and is tightly controlled by the liberals running that city

so you are only using cops as a scapegoat by pandering to the criminals instead of protecting honest citizens

Total fantasy. The police are not tightly controlled by the liberals running the city.

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No public employees should be allowed to have unions. Who advocated for government workers to have unions?
View attachment 384404

Democrats.

Au contraire.

An example. You might remember a big kerfuffle in Wisconsin around 2011 when a Republican governor and majority slammed through Act 10, sharply curtailing the authority and power of public sector unions.

Guess who they exempted?

Police.

Republicans advocate for public sector unions, as long as those unions support them.

Well isn't that just some "after the fact" bullshit!

Is that the best you can do? I don’t see any Republicans trying to bust police unions.

 

[dannyboys]

Red meat for his base, and more evidence for the rest of us how lawless, incompetent and ignorant (of law, constitution, etc) this president is. It is highly unlikely he can legally do this

Trump signs memo to defund 'lawless' cities but experts raise legality doubts

Even if federal agencies are able to find justification to reduce funding to certain cities, perhaps via grants linked to law enforcement, any funding restrictions are unlikely to hold up to legal challenges, he added.​

​

“The president obviously has no power to pick and choose which cities to cut off from congressionally appropriated funding,” said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law scholar at Harvard, and recently the co-author of To End a Presidency: The Power of Impeachment. Trump “has no defunding spigot. The power of the purse belongs to Congress, not the Executive. Donald Trump must have slept through high school civics,” Tribe said in an email.​

Trump has the best legal minds in the world working for him. He listens to them and makes his decisions based on their legal expertise. He's not out there making moves that aren't legal.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Red meat for his base, and more evidence for the rest of us how lawless, incompetent and ignorant (of law, constitution, etc) this president is. It is highly unlikely he can legally do this

This country has never seen anything like this. This presidency is the Sean Hannity show in the Oval Office.

It is right out of Idiocracy.

Contrary to what some may believe..Most Americans are NOT straight out of "Idiocracy".
Granted a few are, but not that many..and half of those that are, are black.

 

[Marion Morrison]

And we don’t think giving money to corrupt unaccountable police forces is a wise use of taxpayer dollars.

But oh boy, did the left get hammered for talking about defunding the police.

In most cities the police chief is appointed by a flaming liberal democrat mayor and city council

and is tightly controlled by the liberals running that city

so you are only using cops as a scapegoat by pandering to the criminals instead of protecting honest citizens

Total fantasy. The police are not tightly controlled by the liberals running the city.

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No public employees should be allowed to have unions. Who advocated for government workers to have unions?
View attachment 384404

Democrats.

Au contraire.

An example. You might remember a big kerfuffle in Wisconsin around 2011 when a Republican governor and majority slammed through Act 10, sharply curtailing the authority and power of public sector unions.

Guess who they exempted?

Police.

Republicans advocate for public sector unions, as long as those unions support them.

Well isn't that just some "after the fact" bullshit!

Is that the best you can do? I don’t see any Republicans trying to bust police unions.

I don't see you jousting windmills, either.
Public sector unions should NEVER been allowed to happen, and weren't for a long, long time in America.

 

[MeBelle]

Red meat for his base, and more evidence for the rest of us how lawless, incompetent and ignorant (of law, constitution, etc) this president is. It is highly unlikely he can legally do this

This country has never seen anything like this. This presidency is the Sean Hannity show in the Oval Office.

Tough love for spoiled, wayward children

Petulant behavior from a vindictive toddler who has no clue about the constitution, federalism or how to run a nation.

Nawww..... what you lack to comprehend is "Federal dollars" means ... what?

You don't know.
You just want to rant.
Knowledge is power...and it helps keep the blood pressure down; along with drugs and alcohol - yeehawwwwww

 

[Marion Morrison]

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No more powerful than any other public employee union that liberals typically support

there can be bad cops

but by looting and rioting in the streets, supported by the democrat party who want to defund the police, liberals are forcing the public to choose between the boys in blue and law and order, or thieves, rapists and murderers.

Far more powerful. Last I checked the police have a tremendous authority that janitors and teachers have. I don't get investigated, arrested and prosecuted because of a teacher. Teachers aren't out there shooting civilians or kneeling on people until they're dead.

You're presenting a false dilemma. What we all want is a police force that is responsive, responsible and accountable. We do that, the looting and rioting goes away.

We already have one. The fact that you can point to fewer than a handful of wrongs is proof of that.

The fact that so many wrongs occur without accountability is proof that we don't have that.

Police protecting their own is a huge problem.

There HAS been accountability. If you looked into the numbers, you'd know that.

I disagree.

Independent investigation launched into police department's handling of officer found drunk behind wheel

The uniformed officer was found passed out drunk behind the wheel of an unmarked police car.

abcnews.go.com

Cop pulled out of his squad car asleep at a stop light. His "brothers" took him to the hospital. How kind. Oh, but no one suspected he was drunk so no evidence was ever gathered and therefore could not be prosecuted. Keep in mind, he was so drunk he was literally passed out and unresponsive and the camera footage shows that they were talking about the odor of alcohol.

But I guess it just slipped their minds...

Go figure they look out for their own. Am I supposed to get mad about that? Put yourself in their position.

 

[Mac-7]

Cop pulled out of his squad car asleep at a stop light. His "brothers" took him to the hospital. How kind. Oh, but no one suspected he was drunk so no evidence was ever gathered and therefore could not be prosecuted.

Now you are trying to backtrack on an issue that has gotten away from the left

Liberals led with the phony bullshit about “institutional racism” which most Americans have come to see as a lie popularized by barack obama for political reasons

the result was that democrats lost the support of the police unions which dutifully used to support whoever the party nominated

and you lost any chance for meaningful reform of the police by alienating ordinary Americans who are appalled by the mob violence in the streets of democrat-administered cities all over America

 

[Mac-7]

Philando Castile was reaching for his wallet to get his ID as instructed after politely telling the cop that he had a firearm. His death was completely unnecessary. No conviction. No accountability. It’s like Castile’s life wasn’t worth anything.

Daniel Shaver was shot in a hallway in a hotel after a cop was screaming at him scaring the living crap out of a guy who didn’t do anything wrong. His death was completely unnecessary. No conviction. No accountability. His life wasn’t worthy anything either.

Now you are trying to be reasonable after liberals failed to convince the public that cops are all racists who just hate black people

you could not make the case that it was racism that killed Shaver, so his death had little impact on the liberal narrative then, and its too late to wave his bloody shirt now

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No more powerful than any other public employee union that liberals typically support

there can be bad cops

but by looting and rioting in the streets, supported by the democrat party who want to defund the police, liberals are forcing the public to choose between the boys in blue and law and order, or thieves, rapists and murderers.

Can you imagine the increase in Burning, Looting and Murder, if the POLICE is ever removed totally. We saw what it looked like at the "summer of love" in Seattle, it would be 100x worse.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It is Congress that allocates funds. It looks like we might be living under a dictatorship already. No one has "allowed lawless protests." God. This guy is so white trash.

It is the president who spends - or does not spend - the money congress allocates

I expect some obama or clinton judge will agree with the democrats and trump will fight that dictate in a higher court

but in the meantime the democrat pussies running the cities will get nothing

Nope! The president in NOT in charge of the power of the purse.

The president allocates the money as the congress dictates..... if THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS does not, he is breaking the Constitution, ONCE AGAIN...

The money IS allocated for Corona Virus relief..... And has nothing to do with protests....

Tying it up in the courts, just to stall it, when He knows He will LOSE the court battle, is his favorite tactic, to pull you weenies along and divide and hurt the citizens who need the help.

What Trump is, is evil.

But if the rioters arent following the law that Nancy Pelosi herself broke, then funds can be held back, until the mob no longer acts like a mob.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You’re forgetting the very not liberal police union. They’re entire purpose is to protect their own, which means keeping their union members out of trouble even if they’re in the wrong. Police unions are extremely powerful.

No more powerful than any other public employee union that liberals typically support

there can be bad cops

but by looting and rioting in the streets, supported by the democrat party who want to defund the police, liberals are forcing the public to choose between the boys in blue and law and order, or thieves, rapists and murderers.

Far more powerful. Last I checked the police have a tremendous authority that janitors and teachers have. I don't get investigated, arrested and prosecuted because of a teacher. Teachers aren't out there shooting civilians or kneeling on people until they're dead.

You're presenting a false dilemma. What we all want is a police force that is responsive, responsible and accountable. We do that, the looting and rioting goes away.

Cops are being summarily fired from their jobs by the autocrats at city hall.

and then targeted for extermination by the district attorney

that does not sound like a powerful union to me

Yep. And what happens? Their union gets involved and they get rehired, often with back pay.

Remember that cop that stood outside Parkland as kids inside were being murdered? Fired.

Oh, but guess what. The union went through arbitration and won, he was rehired with back pay.

Cop who was fired after Parkland shooting will get his job back: Union

One of the officers fired over their handling of the 2018 Parkland shooting will be reinstated, according to his union.

abcnews.go.com

You hear about the firings, you never hear about them being rehired because the union gets the decision reversed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/investigations/police-fired-rehired/

A judge got Officer Friendly rehired, not the union

as I pointed out there are bad cops and he is a prime example

but unlike liberals I dont choose to hate all cops because of him

I don't hate all cops either, but if the system allows bad cops to get off without accountability, then the system needs to change.

And the union definitely got him rehired. Who do you think took this to arbitration?

But the same system seems to allow bad people to get release back into society quicker, because the progs are financing the mob to Burn, Loot and Murder. Why arent they allowed to be arrest for 5 to 20 years since the actions of the mob are felonious?

 

[justinacolmena]

Those cities are in rebellion against the United States, and they cannot be allowed access to federal funds to further their activities of violent insurrection.

 

[iceberg]

Red meat for his base, and more evidence for the rest of us how lawless, incompetent and ignorant (of law, constitution, etc) this president is. It is highly unlikely he can legally do this

Trump signs memo to defund 'lawless' cities but experts raise legality doubts

Even if federal agencies are able to find justification to reduce funding to certain cities, perhaps via grants linked to law enforcement, any funding restrictions are unlikely to hold up to legal challenges, he added.​

​

“The president obviously has no power to pick and choose which cities to cut off from congressionally appropriated funding,” said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law scholar at Harvard, and recently the co-author of To End a Presidency: The Power of Impeachment. Trump “has no defunding spigot. The power of the purse belongs to Congress, not the Executive. Donald Trump must have slept through high school civics,” Tribe said in an email.​

look - you want to defund shit you don't like, great. we all get to. wheee.

you can't keep doing stupid shit and not expecting it to come back at you. why the left keeps doing this is beyond me.

WE DEMAND YOU STAY HOME AND HIDE FROM COVID!
but why are you out protesting?
SHUT UP IT'S IMPORTANT TO US
great - everyone will say "it's important" and do what they want.

stop being emotionally driven shits and this gets a lot easier.