Trump: We'll be the party of healthcare

[Billiejeens]

RAH RAH RAH. GOOOOOO Trump.

You're fringe.
Of no value

Good advice -
Work to make yourself valuable.

 

[Greenbeard]

At this point, Trump can pretty much turn the party into what ever he wants it to be. The party that's OK with a national healthcare plan. The party that doesn't mind their 2A getting infringed upon. The party that's OK with abortions.

I'm just wondering if the republicans even realize how far left of center Trump is taking them. As a fiscal conservative, I can see it. And even more worrisome, why is the left still upset with Trump? He was and will be the best president the left could ask for.

President Trump Pushing Back Healthcare Fight​

Trump tried to strip tens of millions of Americans of their health care and bring back pre-existing condition exclusions (on the eve of a pandemic!). And he'll pick up where he left off if he's given power again.

 

[frigidweirdo]

At this point, Trump can pretty much turn the party into what ever he wants it to be. The party that's OK with a national healthcare plan. The party that doesn't mind their 2A getting infringed upon. The party that's OK with abortions.

I'm just wondering if the republicans even realize how far left of center Trump is taking them. As a fiscal conservative, I can see it. And even more worrisome, why is the left still upset with Trump? He was and will be the best president the left could ask for.

President Trump Pushing Back Healthcare Fight​

The party that hates universal healthcare. The party that goes to wars that lead to soldiers losing parts of their bodies and racks up huge medical bills for life. The party that loves taking money from healthcare providers in order to keep the private system going (we call them BRIBES, okay?)

What a fucking liar this asshole is.

 

[YoursTruly]

Trump tried to strip tens of millions of Americans of their health care and bring back pre-existing condition exclusions (on the eve of a pandemic!). And he'll pick up where he left off if he's given power again.

Wrong. He wanted to be even more socialistic than Obama.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump tried to strip tens of millions of Americans of their health care and bring back pre-existing condition exclusions (on the eve of a pandemic!). And he'll pick up where he left off if he's given power again.

Actions speak louder than words.

 

[Greenbeard]

Wrong. He wanted to be even more socialistic than Obama.

Wrong. He wanted to throw tens of millions of people off their coverage. He tried it via Congress and failed, tried it via executive action and made some progress taking away people's coverage, and he tried a Hail Mary to get the Supreme Court to take away people's coverage (which they ultimately declined to do in 2021).

 

[Billiejeens]

Wrong. He wanted to be even more socialistic than Obama.

You have ridiculous opinions.

 

[dblack]

He pushed his party to Repeal and Replace. Then just Repeal. Because there was never any Replace.

Then..this happened.
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I don't pin that on Trump as much as on Congress. They're the whores who can never turn down an expansion of federal power.

 

[YoursTruly]

Wrong. He wanted to throw tens of millions of people off their coverage. He tried it via Congress and failed, tried it via executive action and made some progress taking away people's coverage, and he tried a Hail Mary to get the Supreme Court to take away people's coverage (which they ultimately declined to do in 2021).

Wrong because covering a lot more people, costing him zero, is what he wanted. He didn't care about the debt or deficit. This is what makes him a socialist.

He signed every new appropriations bills dealing with the ACA that came up. FFS, he only vetoed one spending bill in his 4 years. And that was because it didn't spend enough.

 

[Billiejeens]

Wrong because covering a lot more people, costing him zero, is what he wanted. He didn't care about the debt or deficit. This is what makes him a socialist.

He signed every new appropriations bills dealing with the ACA that came up. FFS, he only vetoed one spending bill in his 4 years. And that was because it didn't spend enough.

People who throw the term socialist around never know what it is.
Why is that?

 

[YoursTruly]

People who throw the term socialist around never know what it is.
Why is that?

Are you denying that Trump wanted a national healthcare plan? Or just trying to change the subject?

 

[dblack]

People who throw the term socialist around never know what it is.
Why is that?

I dunno, but you're totally right. Most of the self-labeled socialists I've met don't have a clue. They give me bullshit like "Socialism is just 'fair' capitalism" or whatever. They never really think it through.

 

[Greenbeard]

Wrong because covering a lot more people, costing him zero, is what he wanted. He didn't care about the debt or deficit. This is what makes him a socialist.

He signed every new appropriations bills dealing with the ACA that came up. FFS, he only vetoed one spending bill in his 4 years. And that was because it didn't spend enough.

Covering more people is not what he wanted.

Trump healthcare plan 'will strip insurance from 14 million'

In a blow to the president, analysis says the number of the uninsured will rise to 52 million by 2026.

www.bbc.com

24 million could lose insurance, report says, dealing GOP a blow - The Boston Globe

www.bostonglobe.com

Trump Administration Asks Supreme Court to Strike Down Affordable Care Act (Published 2020)

If successful, the move would permanently end the health insurance program popularly known as Obamacare and wipe out coverage for as many as 23 million Americans.

www.nytimes.com

Quantifying health coverage losses under Trump

Between the years 2016 and 2019—the majority of President Donald Trump’s current term in office—the number of Americans without health insurance jumped by about 2.3 million, and that loss of health…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

 

[Billiejeens]

I dunno, but you're totally right. Most of the self-labeled socialists I've met don't have a clue. They give me bullshit like "Socialism is just 'fair' capitalism" or whatever. They never really think it through.

They don't understand that Socialism is a well defined system not an attitude.

They give police and libraries and Fire Departments as examples.

 

[Billiejeens]

Are you denying that Trump wanted a national healthcare plan? Or just trying to change the subject?

He improved the system.
It made it less government, more choice.

 

[YoursTruly]

He improved the system.
It made it less government, more choice.

 

[YoursTruly]

I dunno, but you're totally right. Most of the self-labeled socialists I've met don't have a clue. They give me bullshit like "Socialism is just 'fair' capitalism" or whatever. They never really think it through.

What ever system that tries to pay for everything like healthcare, child care and more. I guess you could say it's government funded socialism.