Trump's assault on free speech - agree with him or else!

[ThunderKiss1965]

One thing we should ALL be in agreement on....the right for any of us to speak freely without repercussion from an oppressive government. The First Amendment reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Trump has been assaulting freedom of speech since he has been elected. Whether it was the assault on people based on religion (Muslims). Or, his open assaults on the free press and his threats to remove certain members' press credentials to the White House if he doesn't like what they say.
Trump Is Threatening to 'Take Away' Reporters' Credentials. He Told TIME He Wouldn't Do That

His latest swipe at the First Amendment involves removal of security clearances from Americans who have the audacity to stand up for what they believe in. Americans who served their country for decades are being silenced by a President who believes everyone should serve his interests...and NOT those of the country. I don't care what you think of the politics of guys like John Brennan, but, to have them silenced simply because they disagree with what the POTUS is doing? Who else will we allow Trump to silence?
Trump's Assault on the First Amendment
Targeting critics, Trump threatens ex-officials' security clearances

Where are the patriotic Republicans?! Seriously....how many times will Trump have to wipe his backside with the Constitution before you're going to care?

I bet you were really pissed when Journalist were being spied on by the Obama administration ?

 

[rightwinger]

Trumps threats are kind of creepy

Be nice to me ....or else

 

[mudwhistle]

How about this? Ideology TRUMPS intelligence.

LOL!

It does. A perfectly intelligent person can become infected.

And when it infects, it literally distorts both perceptions and thought processes. I'm not kidding.
.

I figure if your sense of right and wrong is faulty, it's easy to be 'infected'.

I've done a lot of reading the subconscious, and the prevailing view is that, through our subconscious, we humans can talk ourselves into some pretty amazing things. And, it's a process: We begin with a general belief, we then expose ourselves more and more to it, and then we ultimately isolate ourselves within it.

At that point, opinion becomes reality, regardless of how distorted that opinion may be.

FURTHER, we then apply that same process across the board, and that's when the infection takes complete hold.
.

This is how Nazis convinced enough Germans that Jews needed to be eradicated.
This is no mistake.
The Left is using CNN and MSNBC to turn the public into a bunch of angry assholes willing to attack total strangers in the street simply for wearing a red hat.
Luckly CNN and MSNBC doesn't have that big of a following in most of the country.
But in liberal hot spots, you risk serious injury if you walk down the street taking advantage of your 1st Amendment rights......and this is by design.

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

 

[Mac1958]

It does. A perfectly intelligent person can become infected.

And when it infects, it literally distorts both perceptions and thought processes. I'm not kidding.
.

I figure if your sense of right and wrong is faulty, it's easy to be 'infected'.

I've done a lot of reading the subconscious, and the prevailing view is that, through our subconscious, we humans can talk ourselves into some pretty amazing things. And, it's a process: We begin with a general belief, we then expose ourselves more and more to it, and then we ultimately isolate ourselves within it.

At that point, opinion becomes reality, regardless of how distorted that opinion may be.

FURTHER, we then apply that same process across the board, and that's when the infection takes complete hold.
.

This is how Nazis convinced enough Germans that Jews needed to be eradicated.
This is no mistake.
The Left is using CNN and MSNBC to turn the public into a bunch of angry assholes willing to attack total strangers in the street simply for wearing a red hat.
Luckly CNN and MSNBC doesn't have that big of a following in most of the country.
But in liberal hot spots, you risk serious injury if you walk down the street taking advantage of your 1st Amendment rights......and this is by design.

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

 

[jc456]

One thing we should ALL be in agreement on....the right for any of us to speak freely without repercussion from an oppressive government. The First Amendment reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Trump has been assaulting freedom of speech since he has been elected. Whether it was the assault on people based on religion (Muslims). Or, his open assaults on the free press and his threats to remove certain members' press credentials to the White House if he doesn't like what they say.
Trump Is Threatening to 'Take Away' Reporters' Credentials. He Told TIME He Wouldn't Do That

His latest swipe at the First Amendment involves removal of security clearances from Americans who have the audacity to stand up for what they believe in. Americans who served their country for decades are being silenced by a President who believes everyone should serve his interests...and NOT those of the country. I don't care what you think of the politics of guys like John Brennan, but, to have them silenced simply because they disagree with what the POTUS is doing? Who else will we allow Trump to silence?
Trump's Assault on the First Amendment
Targeting critics, Trump threatens ex-officials' security clearances

Where are the patriotic Republicans?! Seriously....how many times will Trump have to wipe his backside with the Constitution before you're going to care?

why do they still have security clearance? can you answer that?
who do they report to with those privileges?
Why should they keep them indefinitely?
I'm sorry, I don't get your point.

 

[jc456]

I figure if your sense of right and wrong is faulty, it's easy to be 'infected'.

I've done a lot of reading the subconscious, and the prevailing view is that, through our subconscious, we humans can talk ourselves into some pretty amazing things. And, it's a process: We begin with a general belief, we then expose ourselves more and more to it, and then we ultimately isolate ourselves within it.

At that point, opinion becomes reality, regardless of how distorted that opinion may be.

FURTHER, we then apply that same process across the board, and that's when the infection takes complete hold.
.

This is how Nazis convinced enough Germans that Jews needed to be eradicated.
This is no mistake.
The Left is using CNN and MSNBC to turn the public into a bunch of angry assholes willing to attack total strangers in the street simply for wearing a red hat.
Luckly CNN and MSNBC doesn't have that big of a following in most of the country.
But in liberal hot spots, you risk serious injury if you walk down the street taking advantage of your 1st Amendment rights......and this is by design.

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

well you do understand that 90% of the news is negative toward the president right? how can that fking be when there is actual good going on in our country. Mac, you wish to ignore that fact? most main stream people want the truth not opinion pieces or fake news. You still don't make any sense with your middle bearing approach on here. you miss all the obvious hate. from the right what you're seeing is retaliation to fake news or missing news. And your shit seems to be directed at the right much more than the left who own the media. You're a sham I guess. I don't know, but you sure have no objectivity.

 

[dannyboys]

One thing we should ALL be in agreement on....the right for any of us to speak freely without repercussion from an oppressive government. The First Amendment reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Trump has been assaulting freedom of speech since he has been elected. Whether it was the assault on people based on religion (Muslims). Or, his open assaults on the free press and his threats to remove certain members' press credentials to the White House if he doesn't like what they say.
Trump Is Threatening to 'Take Away' Reporters' Credentials. He Told TIME He Wouldn't Do That

His latest swipe at the First Amendment involves removal of security clearances from Americans who have the audacity to stand up for what they believe in. Americans who served their country for decades are being silenced by a President who believes everyone should serve his interests...and NOT those of the country. I don't care what you think of the politics of guys like John Brennan, but, to have them silenced simply because they disagree with what the POTUS is doing? Who else will we allow Trump to silence?
Trump's Assault on the First Amendment
Targeting critics, Trump threatens ex-officials' security clearances

Where are the patriotic Republicans?! Seriously....how many times will Trump have to wipe his backside with the Constitution before you're going to care?

None of these Trump-hater assholes are not going to be able to say whatever they want after their security clearances are taken away.
They just won't be able to access top secret information to sell to CNN/MSNBC/WAPO/NYT anymore.

 

[mudwhistle]

I figure if your sense of right and wrong is faulty, it's easy to be 'infected'.

I've done a lot of reading the subconscious, and the prevailing view is that, through our subconscious, we humans can talk ourselves into some pretty amazing things. And, it's a process: We begin with a general belief, we then expose ourselves more and more to it, and then we ultimately isolate ourselves within it.

At that point, opinion becomes reality, regardless of how distorted that opinion may be.

FURTHER, we then apply that same process across the board, and that's when the infection takes complete hold.
.

This is how Nazis convinced enough Germans that Jews needed to be eradicated.
This is no mistake.
The Left is using CNN and MSNBC to turn the public into a bunch of angry assholes willing to attack total strangers in the street simply for wearing a red hat.
Luckly CNN and MSNBC doesn't have that big of a following in most of the country.
But in liberal hot spots, you risk serious injury if you walk down the street taking advantage of your 1st Amendment rights......and this is by design.

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

Talk radio makes a living off of reporting what media refuses to report.
On the other hand being wrong seems to be a greater sin if you are conservative.
Compare Whoopie's terrible conduct to Roseanne Barr's simple tweet. One gets a pass, the other's career is completely ruined possibly for life.

 

[pismoe]

One thing we should ALL be in agreement on....the right for any of us to speak freely without repercussion from an oppressive government. The First Amendment reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Trump has been assaulting freedom of speech since he has been elected. Whether it was the assault on people based on religion (Muslims). Or, his open assaults on the free press and his threats to remove certain members' press credentials to the White House if he doesn't like what they say.
Trump Is Threatening to 'Take Away' Reporters' Credentials. He Told TIME He Wouldn't Do That

His latest swipe at the First Amendment involves removal of security clearances from Americans who have the audacity to stand up for what they believe in. Americans who served their country for decades are being silenced by a President who believes everyone should serve his interests...and NOT those of the country. I don't care what you think of the politics of guys like John Brennan, but, to have them silenced simply because they disagree with what the POTUS is doing? Who else will we allow Trump to silence?
Trump's Assault on the First Amendment
Targeting critics, Trump threatens ex-officials' security clearances

Where are the patriotic Republicans?! Seriously....how many times will Trump have to wipe his backside with the Constitution before you're going to care?

--------------------------- 'brennan' can speak all he likes but he may have his SPECIAL 'security clearance' taken away since he doesn't do Government work anymore . Heck , I don't have a 'security clearance' and i speak freely about anything i like FTank .

 

[pismoe]

can you say ' ex officials' FTank .

 

[Harpy Eagle]

One thing we should ALL be in agreement on....the right for any of us to speak freely without repercussion from an oppressive government. The First Amendment reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Trump has been assaulting freedom of speech since he has been elected. Whether it was the assault on people based on religion (Muslims). Or, his open assaults on the free press and his threats to remove certain members' press credentials to the White House if he doesn't like what they say.
Trump Is Threatening to 'Take Away' Reporters' Credentials. He Told TIME He Wouldn't Do That

His latest swipe at the First Amendment involves removal of security clearances from Americans who have the audacity to stand up for what they believe in. Americans who served their country for decades are being silenced by a President who believes everyone should serve his interests...and NOT those of the country. I don't care what you think of the politics of guys like John Brennan, but, to have them silenced simply because they disagree with what the POTUS is doing? Who else will we allow Trump to silence?
Trump's Assault on the First Amendment
Targeting critics, Trump threatens ex-officials' security clearances

Where are the patriotic Republicans?! Seriously....how many times will Trump have to wipe his backside with the Constitution before you're going to care?

why do they still have security clearance? can you answer that?
who do they report to with those privileges?
Why should they keep them indefinitely?
I'm sorry, I don't get your point.

Everyone that leaves Govt service or the military that has a clearance when they get out have it till it expires, it has always been that way.

They are not indefinite, a TS is renewed every 5 years.

They have no privileges, having a clearance and having access are two separate issues


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[jc456]

One thing we should ALL be in agreement on....the right for any of us to speak freely without repercussion from an oppressive government. The First Amendment reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Trump has been assaulting freedom of speech since he has been elected. Whether it was the assault on people based on religion (Muslims). Or, his open assaults on the free press and his threats to remove certain members' press credentials to the White House if he doesn't like what they say.
Trump Is Threatening to 'Take Away' Reporters' Credentials. He Told TIME He Wouldn't Do That

His latest swipe at the First Amendment involves removal of security clearances from Americans who have the audacity to stand up for what they believe in. Americans who served their country for decades are being silenced by a President who believes everyone should serve his interests...and NOT those of the country. I don't care what you think of the politics of guys like John Brennan, but, to have them silenced simply because they disagree with what the POTUS is doing? Who else will we allow Trump to silence?
Trump's Assault on the First Amendment
Targeting critics, Trump threatens ex-officials' security clearances

Where are the patriotic Republicans?! Seriously....how many times will Trump have to wipe his backside with the Constitution before you're going to care?

why do they still have security clearance? can you answer that?
who do they report to with those privileges?
Why should they keep them indefinitely?
I'm sorry, I don't get your point.

Everyone that leaves Govt service or the military that has a clearance when they get out have it till it expires, it has always been that way.

They are not indefinite, a TS is renewed every 5 years.

They have no privileges, haunch a clearance and having access are two separate issues


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yep, understand that. the question being asked now is why? What purpose does it serve? It was, from what I heard last night, transition purposes. Well we're 18 months in and these folks still have it? What is it going to hurt anyone to remove their clearance? How is that silencing them exactly per the OP?

 

[blackhawk]

That does not in any way shape or form stop anyone from speaking their mind.

 

[Mac1958]

I've done a lot of reading the subconscious, and the prevailing view is that, through our subconscious, we humans can talk ourselves into some pretty amazing things. And, it's a process: We begin with a general belief, we then expose ourselves more and more to it, and then we ultimately isolate ourselves within it.

At that point, opinion becomes reality, regardless of how distorted that opinion may be.

FURTHER, we then apply that same process across the board, and that's when the infection takes complete hold.
.

This is how Nazis convinced enough Germans that Jews needed to be eradicated.
This is no mistake.
The Left is using CNN and MSNBC to turn the public into a bunch of angry assholes willing to attack total strangers in the street simply for wearing a red hat.
Luckly CNN and MSNBC doesn't have that big of a following in most of the country.
But in liberal hot spots, you risk serious injury if you walk down the street taking advantage of your 1st Amendment rights......and this is by design.

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

well you do understand that 90% of the news is negative toward the president right? how can that fking be when there is actual good going on in our country. Mac, you wish to ignore that fact? most main stream people want the truth not opinion pieces or fake news. You still don't make any sense with your middle bearing approach on here. you miss all the obvious hate. from the right what you're seeing is retaliation to fake news or missing news. And your shit seems to be directed at the right much more than the left who own the media. You're a sham I guess. I don't know, but you sure have no objectivity.

Ironically, I get the same thing from the Left.

I was in "the media" for about 18 years in a former life. I know quite well that it leans left, I know all the tricks, I see them all the time.

That doesn't excuse the Division Pimps on the Right who have led their followers to completely over-compensate, to the point at which they are now essentially existing in their own universe.
.

 

[Mac1958]

I've done a lot of reading the subconscious, and the prevailing view is that, through our subconscious, we humans can talk ourselves into some pretty amazing things. And, it's a process: We begin with a general belief, we then expose ourselves more and more to it, and then we ultimately isolate ourselves within it.

At that point, opinion becomes reality, regardless of how distorted that opinion may be.

FURTHER, we then apply that same process across the board, and that's when the infection takes complete hold.
.

This is how Nazis convinced enough Germans that Jews needed to be eradicated.
This is no mistake.
The Left is using CNN and MSNBC to turn the public into a bunch of angry assholes willing to attack total strangers in the street simply for wearing a red hat.
Luckly CNN and MSNBC doesn't have that big of a following in most of the country.
But in liberal hot spots, you risk serious injury if you walk down the street taking advantage of your 1st Amendment rights......and this is by design.

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

Talk radio makes a living off of reporting what media refuses to report.
On the other hand being wrong seems to be a greater sin if you are conservative.
Compare Whoopie's terrible conduct to Roseanne Barr's simple tweet. One gets a pass, the other's career is completely ruined possibly for life.

Talk radio makes a living out of keeping their listeners myopic, angry and isolated.

It sure is working.
.

 

[jc456]

This is how Nazis convinced enough Germans that Jews needed to be eradicated.
This is no mistake.
The Left is using CNN and MSNBC to turn the public into a bunch of angry assholes willing to attack total strangers in the street simply for wearing a red hat.
Luckly CNN and MSNBC doesn't have that big of a following in most of the country.
But in liberal hot spots, you risk serious injury if you walk down the street taking advantage of your 1st Amendment rights......and this is by design.

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

well you do understand that 90% of the news is negative toward the president right? how can that fking be when there is actual good going on in our country. Mac, you wish to ignore that fact? most main stream people want the truth not opinion pieces or fake news. You still don't make any sense with your middle bearing approach on here. you miss all the obvious hate. from the right what you're seeing is retaliation to fake news or missing news. And your shit seems to be directed at the right much more than the left who own the media. You're a sham I guess. I don't know, but you sure have no objectivity.

Ironically, I get the same thing from the Left.

I was in "the media" for about 18 years in a former life. I know quite well that it leans left, I know all the tricks, I see them all the time.

That doesn't excuse the Division Pimps on the Right who have led their followers to completely over-compensate, to the point at which they are now essentially existing in their own universe.
.

so, that doesn't make you an expert on anything. WE the people all listen and read the news. we are allowed by our constitution to decide what is real and isn't. If someone lies, the retaliation will be bigger to make up the gap for the ten media branches to one reporting the fake. If you truly believe the right news media is as powerful as the left, you live in a demented world.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

One thing we should ALL be in agreement on....the right for any of us to speak freely without repercussion from an oppressive government. The First Amendment reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Trump has been assaulting freedom of speech since he has been elected. Whether it was the assault on people based on religion (Muslims). Or, his open assaults on the free press and his threats to remove certain members' press credentials to the White House if he doesn't like what they say.
Trump Is Threatening to 'Take Away' Reporters' Credentials. He Told TIME He Wouldn't Do That

His latest swipe at the First Amendment involves removal of security clearances from Americans who have the audacity to stand up for what they believe in. Americans who served their country for decades are being silenced by a President who believes everyone should serve his interests...and NOT those of the country. I don't care what you think of the politics of guys like John Brennan, but, to have them silenced simply because they disagree with what the POTUS is doing? Who else will we allow Trump to silence?
Trump's Assault on the First Amendment
Targeting critics, Trump threatens ex-officials' security clearances

Where are the patriotic Republicans?! Seriously....how many times will Trump have to wipe his backside with the Constitution before you're going to care?

why do they still have security clearance? can you answer that?
who do they report to with those privileges?
Why should they keep them indefinitely?
I'm sorry, I don't get your point.

Everyone that leaves Govt service or the military that has a clearance when they get out have it till it expires, it has always been that way.

They are not indefinite, a TS is renewed every 5 years.

They have no privileges, haunch a clearance and having access are two separate issues


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yep, understand that. the question being asked now is why? What purpose does it serve? It was, from what I heard last night, transition purposes. Well we're 18 months in and these folks still have it? What is it going to hurt anyone to remove their clearance? How is that silencing them exactly per the OP?

Why should the executive branch single out these 5 people? If having a clearance when you get out of service is such an evil thing then do away with it totally.

I do agree it is not silencing them in the least, but it is a vindictive action by Trump


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[jc456]

This is how Nazis convinced enough Germans that Jews needed to be eradicated.
This is no mistake.
The Left is using CNN and MSNBC to turn the public into a bunch of angry assholes willing to attack total strangers in the street simply for wearing a red hat.
Luckly CNN and MSNBC doesn't have that big of a following in most of the country.
But in liberal hot spots, you risk serious injury if you walk down the street taking advantage of your 1st Amendment rights......and this is by design.

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

Talk radio makes a living off of reporting what media refuses to report.
On the other hand being wrong seems to be a greater sin if you are conservative.
Compare Whoopie's terrible conduct to Roseanne Barr's simple tweet. One gets a pass, the other's career is completely ruined possibly for life.

Talk radio makes a living out of keeping their listeners myopic, angry and isolated.

It sure is working.
.

the left lies on fifteen tv stations a day. They promote all left wing ideology, they are not fair and balanced. The right shows at least attempt to make a fair and balance approach. The problem sometimes is that the left is so outrageous, it becomes hard to gather it all in and balance the other side.
BTW, do you listen, most of the callers to these shows are leftists. They love them to come on to show how stupid they really are. And you know this if you listen.

 

[Mac1958]

This is working effectively on both ends of the spectrum.
.

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

well you do understand that 90% of the news is negative toward the president right? how can that fking be when there is actual good going on in our country. Mac, you wish to ignore that fact? most main stream people want the truth not opinion pieces or fake news. You still don't make any sense with your middle bearing approach on here. you miss all the obvious hate. from the right what you're seeing is retaliation to fake news or missing news. And your shit seems to be directed at the right much more than the left who own the media. You're a sham I guess. I don't know, but you sure have no objectivity.

Ironically, I get the same thing from the Left.

I was in "the media" for about 18 years in a former life. I know quite well that it leans left, I know all the tricks, I see them all the time.

That doesn't excuse the Division Pimps on the Right who have led their followers to completely over-compensate, to the point at which they are now essentially existing in their own universe.
.

so, that doesn't make you an expert on anything. WE the people all listen and read the news. we are allowed by our constitution to decide what is real and isn't. If someone lies, the retaliation will be bigger to make up the gap for the ten media branches to one reporting the fake. If you truly believe the right news media is as powerful as the left, you live in a demented world.

Now you're making stuff up. I didn't say the right wing news media is as powerful as the rest of the media.

Talk radio and and right wing internet have carved out a very lucrative piece of the pie. They have convinced their fans that everything outside their little ideological bubble is the enemy. If it's against Trump, it's fake news. If I disagree with something, it's only because the media has convinced me to be that way. Very convenient.

It's not as big as the rest of the media, obviously, but what it's doing is just as intellectually dishonest and counter-productive.
.

 

[jc456]

Yeah, you get to wear your red hat. They get to beat your brains in.

As I said, it's happening on both sides.

Talk Radio's fingerprints are all over the Right end of the spectrum right now. Not only in talking points, not only in its own "news", but in fundamental thought processes. It's in its own little universe.

Blaming everything on the media is one example.
.

well you do understand that 90% of the news is negative toward the president right? how can that fking be when there is actual good going on in our country. Mac, you wish to ignore that fact? most main stream people want the truth not opinion pieces or fake news. You still don't make any sense with your middle bearing approach on here. you miss all the obvious hate. from the right what you're seeing is retaliation to fake news or missing news. And your shit seems to be directed at the right much more than the left who own the media. You're a sham I guess. I don't know, but you sure have no objectivity.

Ironically, I get the same thing from the Left.

I was in "the media" for about 18 years in a former life. I know quite well that it leans left, I know all the tricks, I see them all the time.

That doesn't excuse the Division Pimps on the Right who have led their followers to completely over-compensate, to the point at which they are now essentially existing in their own universe.
.

so, that doesn't make you an expert on anything. WE the people all listen and read the news. we are allowed by our constitution to decide what is real and isn't. If someone lies, the retaliation will be bigger to make up the gap for the ten media branches to one reporting the fake. If you truly believe the right news media is as powerful as the left, you live in a demented world.

Now you're making stuff up. I didn't say the right wing news media is as powerful as the rest of the media.

Talk radio and and right wing internet have carved out a very lucrative piece of the pie. They have convinced their fans that everything outside their little ideological bubble is the enemy. If it's against Trump, it's fake news. If I disagree with something, it's only because the media has convinced me to be that way. Very convenient.

It's not as big as the rest of the media, obviously, but what it's doing is just as intellectually dishonest and counter-productive.
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I didn't say the right wing news media is as powerful as the rest of the media.
then why do you treat them as equals?