Trump's Muslim ban is NOT unconstitutional!!

Trump didn't ban ALL Muslims. Just restricted immigration from certain countries. For a few weeks. Like Obama did, and liberals weren't pissing themselves then,why now?
He did that in a way that has created chaos among the general population, and even the people in charge of enforcing that EO. Possibly the least thought out EO in history.

Yes, we have to be cautious about who comes to this nation. However, most of the recent attacks in the US have been by our own people, lone wolf attacks. And the worst attacks from the outside came from the very nations that the orange clown excluded from the EO. In fact, the very nations that the orange clown has economic interests in. He has obviously put his economic interests above those of the nation.
Trump didn't ban ALL Muslims. Just restricted immigration from certain countries. For a few weeks. Like Obama did, and liberals weren't pissing themselves then,why now?
He did that in a way that has created chaos among the general population, and even the people in charge of enforcing that EO. Possibly the least thought out EO in history.

Yes, we have to be cautious about who comes to this nation. However, most of the recent attacks in the US have been by our own people, lone wolf attacks. And the worst attacks from the outside came from the very nations that the orange clown excluded from the EO. In fact, the very nations that the orange clown has economic interests in. He has obviously put his economic interests above those of the nation.
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Trump didn't ban ALL Muslims. Just restricted immigration from certain countries. For a few weeks. Like Obama did, and liberals weren't pissing themselves then,why now?
He did that in a way that has created chaos among the general population, and even the people in charge of enforcing that EO. Possibly the least thought out EO in history.

Yes, we have to be cautious about who comes to this nation. However, most of the recent attacks in the US have been by our own people, lone wolf attacks. And the worst attacks from the outside came from the very nations that the orange clown excluded from the EO. In fact, the very nations that the orange clown has economic interests in. He has obviously put his economic interests above those of the nation.
Preaching to the choir, brother. Liberals support Islam as an intellectual abstraction, although Islam itself is a total anathema to western liberalism . I don't think liberals understand what they are doing. Akin to selling rope to the people that would hang you. Naivete and gullible.
 
Only moronic , heartless bastards will not be able relate to this:

Here Is Some of the Human Misery Caused by President Trump’s Muslim Ban From Those Most Impacted

Refugees and people were caught completely off-guard by the order. They reacted with fear, disbelief, and outrage as their lives were turned upside down by the president’s discriminatory and unconstitutional Muslim ban. Some refugees and immigrants had already given away or sold all of their belongings.


Hajira Jilaow

“We have all documents. We are real refugees. I was waiting for five years. I have endured much but I was always optimistic that I will have a brighter future once I am resettled in the U.S. But unfortunately we were told ... that the US President does not allow refugees into his country. I am shocked. I used to hear America always protects vulnerable people and cares about human rights. But I do not think that is true now as this happened to us.”




Fuad Shareef
“I thought in America there are institutions, democracy. This looks like a decision from a dictator. I don’t understand.”

Anahita Moghaddam
“The fact that I’m not even a practicing Muslim is ironic. My job is helping Americans and American companies achieve higher levels of wellbeing and happiness.”


Muhumad Yusuf Dhaqane

“I was always dreaming to be American because during our cultural orientation class, we heard that in America that all people are the same with equal rights whether you are Muslim, Christian or Jew or others. I heard that there is neither discrimination nor racism – if you are black or white you have equal rights in America.

“How can I go back to that refugee camp? I gave out my mattress, my sheets and all my belongings to other people there. Even I sold my small shelter which was sticks and iron sheets so where will I live? Donald Trump killed me for good. He killed my dream and my future”


Daria Zeynalia
“How do I get back home now? What about my job? If I can’t go back soon, I’ll lose everything.”
Murtada Al-Tameemi
“It adds insult to injury when people talk about excluding people like me as if we are a threat to this country when we have fled the very same things this country is fearing – whether Isis or al-Qaida – we have been the victims of their actions.”


If you're worried about atrocities, perhaps you should protest the governments in the Mideast that Behead Gays, Stone Rape Victims, and ritually perform Female Genital Mutilation.
Oh Christ! Are you really so desperate to score a point that you have to resort to obvious logical fallacies? The first fallacy here is a red herring. What is going on in other countries has noting to do with what Trump has done. Nothing. Your bringing it up is just an attempt to derail the topic and divert attention away from this atrocity.

Second of all, it is a false analogy. Again, you can't compare....and its ridiculous to compare, Trumps hysterical, racist and xenophobic policies being implemented in what used to be a democracy, to the middle east that has no tradition or history of democracy or the separation of religion from government.

In addition, and this is my favorite, you are accusing me of being a hypocrite for allegedly not being concerned about atrocities in the middle east. More specifically you have use a fallacy known as a
tu quoque (To kwok we )(Latin for "you, too" or "you, also") or the appeal to hypocrisy, is a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. This dismisses someone's point of view based on criticism of the person's inconsistency and not the position presented whereas a person's inconsistency should not discredit the position. Thus, it is a form of the ad hominem argument. To clarify, although the person being attacked might indeed be acting inconsistently or hypocritically, this does not invalidate their argument."

Now, concerning those abuses in the Middle East, which I am in fact concerned about, what do you propose we do? Engage in more nation building? How did that go in Iraq and Afghanistan. To what extent should we prioritize their human right issues and domestic policies against the wider issues of US interests in the region? What about human rights issues in China and Russia? Why no mention of that. The US has for years been prodding them, as well as out ME allies to clean up their acts but there is only so much that we can do. To suggest that I or anyone is not concerned is just fucking stupid!!
 
They don't; the executive branch has to faithfully execute the law.
We also have a federal Doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will; and should be applied to unemployment compensation. It can also, happen by executive order. But, that wasn't on the "pander todo" list, of our new President.
Exactly. Thus making Trump's actions unconstitutional because the president does not have the authority to unilaterally ban anybody.
There is long standing precedent for Presidents to be able to suspend travel to and from specified nations, dude.
same thing about executive orders. Mr. Trump only has, national socialist, executive orders.
Obama did the same thing, did you you object then?
nope; just right wing propaganda. apples and oranges.
 
What??!! Are you saying that the Washington Post is making this up, that its fake news?? The same story have been reported by numerous other sources. Is everything that you don't like, that hurts your eyes and ears fake new? Pull you head out mister.

There is plenty more where that came from Bubba

It's not a Muslim ban dipstick. Unless Obama is a Muslim hater?

Obama made the list, Trump just used it because that is who/where US agencies (UNDER OBAMA) had reported as countries which were not up to snuff on vetting.
Horseshit!! The order give preference to "religious minorities" from the named countries. Read: "Christians" A preference to one religion over others in violation of the first amendment! Is it possible that you are not bright enough to understand that?

That's your bias talking son. Who says some Muslim minority wouldn't be prioritized? Only bias.

This kind of "priority" statement is typical of immigration policies from all over the world. Though even if it does apply to Christian's being persecuted in the M.E. is that a problem? I don't have a problem with prioritizing a religious group that is very realistically facing a complete genocide at the hands of ISIS, why do you?
Muslim minorities?? THEY ARE ALL MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES!!

Different sects you dip shit, unless you would like to forward the idea that Radical Islam is the /only/ religion found there - in which case you just shot yourself in the foot.
Dip Shit? Did Trump make any distinction between different sects of Muslims? Is he smart enough to know the difference? I don't think so. To him, Muslims are Muslims and they are all dangerous.

Shias bear the brunt of Sunni terrorism but Shia majority Iran is on his list while Sunni majority Saudi Arabia is not,. Makes no fucking sense except that Trump has business interests in Saudi Arabia and not in Iran. THINK about that.
 
It's not a Muslim ban dipstick. Unless Obama is a Muslim hater?

Obama made the list, Trump just used it because that is who/where US agencies (UNDER OBAMA) had reported as countries which were not up to snuff on vetting.
Horseshit!! The order give preference to "religious minorities" from the named countries. Read: "Christians" A preference to one religion over others in violation of the first amendment! Is it possible that you are not bright enough to understand that?

That's your bias talking son. Who says some Muslim minority wouldn't be prioritized? Only bias.

This kind of "priority" statement is typical of immigration policies from all over the world. Though even if it does apply to Christian's being persecuted in the M.E. is that a problem? I don't have a problem with prioritizing a religious group that is very realistically facing a complete genocide at the hands of ISIS, why do you?
Muslim minorities?? THEY ARE ALL MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES!!

Different sects you dip shit, unless you would like to forward the idea that Radical Islam is the /only/ religion found there - in which case you just shot yourself in the foot.
Dip Shit? Did Trump make any distinction between different sects of Muslims? Is he smart enough to know the difference? I don't think so. To him, Muslims are Muslims and they are all dangerous.

Shias bear the brunt of Sunni terrorism but Shia majority Iran is on his list while Sunni majority Saudi Arabia is not,. Makes no fucking sense except that Trump has business interests in Saudi Arabia and not in Iran. THINK about that.

Actually yes he did, he noted religious persecution - different religious sects fall under the category of 'being persecuted for their religion.'
 
I finally figured it out. The Lefties are really upset that Trump isn't putting Muslims in Internment Camps like their hero FDR did to the Japanese.
 
Horseshit!! The order give preference to "religious minorities" from the named countries. Read: "Christians" A preference to one religion over others in violation of the first amendment! Is it possible that you are not bright enough to understand that?

That's your bias talking son. Who says some Muslim minority wouldn't be prioritized? Only bias.

This kind of "priority" statement is typical of immigration policies from all over the world. Though even if it does apply to Christian's being persecuted in the M.E. is that a problem? I don't have a problem with prioritizing a religious group that is very realistically facing a complete genocide at the hands of ISIS, why do you?
Muslim minorities?? THEY ARE ALL MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES!!

Different sects you dip shit, unless you would like to forward the idea that Radical Islam is the /only/ religion found there - in which case you just shot yourself in the foot.
Dip Shit? Did Trump make any distinction between different sects of Muslims? Is he smart enough to know the difference? I don't think so. To him, Muslims are Muslims and they are all dangerous.

Shias bear the brunt of Sunni terrorism but Shia majority Iran is on his list while Sunni majority Saudi Arabia is not,. Makes no fucking sense except that Trump has business interests in Saudi Arabia and not in Iran. THINK about that.

Actually yes he did, he noted religious persecution - different religious sects fall under the category of 'being persecuted for their religion.'
Really, I'm willing to bet that he would not give a Shia and a Christian the same level of priority. What someone shows be that he has, I will reconsider.
 
Do Muslim sects differentiate between whom they exclude? Muslim societies don't have ANY protesters, gay rights, abortion or woman's rights. Ever notice THAT? Just us westerners.Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
What pisses off liberals is they dont want to report that ANYONE, even Iranian and Libyan Christians coming over are subject to this restriction. It's not a ban on Muslims, its a ban on citizens of these countries.

Obama banned refugees from Iraq for 6 months in 2011 and from the MSM......

Crickets.

Take your feigned outrage and go get a job.
 
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There is long standing precedent for Presidents to be able to suspend travel to and from specified nations, dude.
same thing about executive orders. Mr. Trump only has, national socialist, executive orders.
Obama did the same thing, did you you object then?
Of course it was, since anything a Dimocrat does is copacetic, being a fellow traveler and all.
I read how liberal protesters say this isn't what America is about. Really? What America are you from? The same one Thomas Jefferson, slave owner, proclaimed all men are created equal? Same America that has ginormous black on black crime rate now? Same dysfunctional America, deluded racial and cultural and income divided place I live in? Something is broken here. Same people that Muslims extremism want to destroy? We are so conflicted here, we don't need terrorists any more to destroy us, we will do that ourselves.
 
Trump didn't ban ALL Muslims. Just restricted immigration from certain countries. For a few weeks. Like Obama did, and liberals weren't pissing themselves then,why now?
He did that in a way that has created chaos among the general population, and even the people in charge of enforcing that EO. Possibly the least thought out EO in history.

Yes, we have to be cautious about who comes to this nation. However, most of the recent attacks in the US have been by our own people, lone wolf attacks. And the worst attacks from the outside came from the very nations that the orange clown excluded from the EO. In fact, the very nations that the orange clown has economic interests in. He has obviously put his economic interests above those of the nation.
Trump didn't ban ALL Muslims. Just restricted immigration from certain countries. For a few weeks. Like Obama did, and liberals weren't pissing themselves then,why now?
He did that in a way that has created chaos among the general population, and even the people in charge of enforcing that EO. Possibly the least thought out EO in history.

Yes, we have to be cautious about who comes to this nation. However, most of the recent attacks in the US have been by our own people, lone wolf attacks. And the worst attacks from the outside came from the very nations that the orange clown excluded from the EO. In fact, the very nations that the orange clown has economic interests in. He has obviously put his economic interests above those of the nation.
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Trump didn't ban ALL Muslims. Just restricted immigration from certain countries. For a few weeks. Like Obama did, and liberals weren't pissing themselves then,why now?
He did that in a way that has created chaos among the general population, and even the people in charge of enforcing that EO. Possibly the least thought out EO in history.

Yes, we have to be cautious about who comes to this nation. However, most of the recent attacks in the US have been by our own people, lone wolf attacks. And the worst attacks from the outside came from the very nations that the orange clown excluded from the EO. In fact, the very nations that the orange clown has economic interests in. He has obviously put his economic interests above those of the nation.
Preaching to the choir, brother. Liberals support Islam as an intellectual abstraction, although Islam itself is a total anathema to western liberalism . I don't think liberals understand what they are doing. Akin to selling rope to the people that would hang you. Naivete and gullible.
did you know, that purely religious laws in the US are only recently being overturned, this millennium?
 
Do Muslim sects differentiate between whom they exclude? Muslim societies don't have ANY protesters, gay rights, abortion or woman's rights. Ever notice THAT? Just us westerners.Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
so what; it was not the (semi-)Religious Right that advocated for equal protection of the law, but the left.
 
nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law.

we have a First Amendment.

First Amendment has nothing to do with it.

1. Islam is not a religion.

2. Religions are not supremacist. Islam is.

3. 1st amendment has nothing to do with it, and even if Islam was a religion, it still cannot be supreme over the Constitution (in violation of the Constitution - Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause) Nothing can be supreme over the Constitution. The word "nothing" includes religions.
 
Are you out of your fucking mind??
Nope. But I sense you might be. No excuse for your silliness. I gave you the Constitution Article (6) and Section 2). You have no excuse for ignorance.

The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land.

You are aware that Islam is the largest supremacism in the world, right ?
 
Do Muslim sects differentiate between whom they exclude? Muslim societies don't have ANY protesters, gay rights, abortion or woman's rights. Ever notice THAT? Just us westerners.Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
so what; it was not the (semi-)Religious Right that advocated for equal protection of the law, but the left.
Once confirmed as criminal, criminals and law abiding people do not have equal protection of the law. Criminals are imprisoned. Law abiding people aren't. Criminals only have equal protection of the law, when it is uncertain that they are criminal. (before conviction)
 

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