Trump's New Flip Flop Speech

[bodecea]

TDS thread... number #1989

Is this where you rush in to defend the sexual abuser?

 

[bodecea]

Go look at California you stupid sob

5th highest economy... how's Indiana?

 

[bodecea]

Really? He beats the snot out of how Brandon looks!!!




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You mean the current President of the United States... beating the sexual abuser in 2020.

 

[westwall]

Trump is both an ignoramus and a liar – as are his supporters.

Neither communists nor fascists are assailing Trump.

Again, fascism is the sole purview of the right.

What a retarded twat you are. Rightwing is NO government. Leftwing is TOTAL government.

Retard.

 

[toobfreak]

You mean the current President of the United States...

Really? You think Biden is running this country dummass?

 

[toobfreak]

What a retarded twat you are. Rightwing is NO government. Leftwing is TOTAL government.

Here's a chart I like, West:
Leftwing is total government; fascism, communism, ever how you want to play it, while no government is anarchy.
Whereas the Right is about the proper amount of limited government, just enough to institute the rule of law to make everyone freer.

 

[westwall]

Here's a chart I like, West:
Leftwing is total government; fascism, communism, ever how you want to play it, while no government is anarchy.
Whereas the Right is about the proper amount of limited government, just enough to institute the rule of law to make everyone freer.




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It is still wrong. Think of the teeter totter. Total government is left no government is right. You can't have leftwing totalitarianism and rightwing totalitarianism. The way you should look at it is the level teeter totter is an equal mix of collectivist, and individualist ideals and policies. Thus, the only question is how far left is your government.

No government is easy, that's anarchy, which is the ultimate form of rightwing ideology.

 

[toobfreak]

It is still wrong. Think of the teeter totter. Total government is left no government is right.

At the extremes, yes.

You can't have leftwing totalitarianism and rightwing totalitarianism.

True, totalitarianism is total government, far closer to what democrats or the left now want. Probably because THEY are the government. If Trump or the Right were the government, then they would be anti-big government! Remember how anti-government they were while Trump was in office? Now they do a complete 180 condemning anyone for daring to question much less object to the 2020 election!

The way you should look at it is the level teeter totter is an equal mix of collectivist, and individualist ideals and policies. Thus, the only question is how far left is your government.

I suppose, though I'm not sure if a level teeter would be the ideal and equal point of freedom and government.

No government is easy, that's anarchy,

Easy but transitional, because anarchy eventually breaks down and falls back into an oligarchy. Anarchy like statism both serve a similar purpose in that while anarchy gives absolute power and freedom based on the might of the individual, totalitarianism gives absolute power to the might of the State. Both deprive many in society. The only form of government which preserves liberty and rights for ALL is Constitutional moderation: limited government based on the rule of law over both the individual AND the state.

which is the ultimate form of rightwing ideology.

Perhaps, at the extreme, but we are made better through constitutional moderation--- enough government to have rule of law to protect the rights and liberties of the individual, but not so much that it leads us back to statism again.

 

[westwall]

At the extremes, yes.


True, totalitarianism is total government, far closer to what democrats or the left now want. Probably because THEY are the government. If Trump or the Right were the government, then they would be anti-big government! Remember how anti-government they were while Trump was in office? Now they do a complete 180 condemning anyone for daring to question much less object to the 2020 election!


I suppose, though I'm not sure if a level teeter would be the ideal and equal point of freedom and government.


Easy but transitional, because anarchy eventually breaks down and falls back into an oligarchy. Anarchy like statism both serve a similar purpose in that while anarchy gives absolute power and freedom based on the might of the individual, totalitarianism gives absolute power to the might of the State. Both deprive many in society. The only form of government which preserves liberty and rights for ALL is Constitutional moderation: limited government based on the rule of law over both the individual AND the state.


Perhaps, at the extreme, but we are made better through constitutional moderation--- enough government to have rule of law to protect the rights and liberties of the individual, but not so much that it leads us back to statism again.

You always start at the extremes, and work your way toward the middle.

 

[toobfreak]

You always start at the extremes, and work your way toward the middle.

Well, we are heading for another extreme again. Someone in the GOP better get busy and start working us back toward the middle again.

 

[westwall]

Well, we are heading for another extreme again. Someone in the GOP better get busy and start working us back toward the middle again.

They are part and parcel of the march towards dictatorship.

 

[dudmuck]

No no, scumsucking lying lizardanus.

What you actually said. We all know that one of the things Trump did was to hold up a Bible in front of an historic church which had been set on fire.

But that’s not what you said, you cheap ass propagandist moron. Fuck you and your local weather report.

 

[lennypartiv]

The former "Law and Order" President is now railing against law enforcement.

Well, when you're being persecuted...

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump truly is an ignoramus – as are his supporters.

Communism and fascism are on opposite sides of the political spectrum – one cannot be ‘both.’

So uneducated.

 

[toobfreak]

Where is your love of democracy and government now, you creep?! When Trump was the government, you SPIT in his face calling him a conman, but now that you actually HAVE a conman and fascist running your government, you swear by it.

 

[BackAgain]

How old are you??? 12????

Brilliant question from Lizardanus.

 

[BackAgain]

That’s ^ a lame faggoty post even by fuckmud’s “standards.”

 

[Dragonlady]

That’s ^ a lame faggoty post even by fuckmud’s “standards.”

You’re really obsessed with gay sex.

 

[westwall]

You’re really obsessed with gay sex.

You're really obsessed with child rape.

 

[BackAgain]

You’re really obsessed with gay sex.

Sure.