Trump's Next Move Towards a Fascist State: Take Away Licensing of T.V. Networks

[Ame®icano]

Google "fairness doctrine". Plenty of links.

Can you show me where Obama supported it? Because from everything I'm reading, he was against it.

In June 2008, Barack Obama's press secretary wrote that Obama (then a Democratic U.S. Senator from Illinois and candidate for President):

“ Does not support reimposing the Fairness Doctrine on broadcasters ... [and] considers this debate to be a distraction from the conversation we should be having about opening up the airwaves and modern communications to as many diverse viewpoints as possible. That is why Sen. Obama supports media-ownership caps, network neutrality, public broadcasting, as well as increasing minority ownership of broadcasting and print outlets.[50] ”

Riiiight. Barry never said one thing and did opposite.

June 2008? That was before he was elected. Right after he was worn in, sometimes in February 2009, Democrats (Hinchey, Stabenow and Harkin), with Barry's blessing pushed for reinstating the "fairness doctrine" and he put Rivera to lead the transition.

You don't know about that? Oh, you were still in diapers...

Link?

You've been asked twice now.

Are you really unable to google it yourself?

Is CNN good enough for you?

Dems target right-wing talk radio

AIM?

Democrats’ New ‘Fairness’ Push May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts, Critics Say

HuffPost?

Putting Talk Radio on Trial at the FCC

Look kid, you are trying to prove something, but for that you need to know the subject(s). You've been proven wrong every time, over and over, and you're still dicking around like you're boss here. So far, you show nothing, because you know nothing. Grow up.

All your links talk about Democrats, not Obama like you said. So where is a quote from Obama threatening to take away the licenses of networks because they criticized him, like the one Trump made?

He appointed Rivera to head of FCC who was proposing to do it. You know, they don't come up with the rules on their own, they follow the orders from above to make the rules. You didn't know that?

 

[Coyote]

How can people continue to support this guy? Can you think of any other historical figures that wanted to silence anyone that talked ill of them...?

""With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!" Mr Trump wrote in a tweet."

Trump raises a thoughtful and legitimate question. The airwaves belong to the public and there are FCC rules regarding their use. And some licensees such as CNN and MSNBC consistently broadcast hoaxes or "fake news" as Trump has labeled them.

Here is the relevant law regarding broadcast hoaxes.


§ 73.1217 Broadcast hoaxes.
No licensee or permittee of any broadcast station shall broadcast false information concerning a crime or a catastrophe if:

(a) The licensee knows this information is false;

(b) It is forseeable that broadcast of the information will cause substantial public harm, and

(c) Broadcast of the information does in fact directly cause substantial public harm.

Any programming accompanied by a disclaimer will be presumed not to pose foreseeable harm if the disclaimer clearly characterizes the program as a fiction and is presented in a way that is reasonable under the circumstances.


So what it basically comes down to is whether or not any of their multitude of broadcast hoaxes have ever directly caused substantial public harm. I agree with Trump that this needs to be looked into. For instance, they could investigate the possibility that any of these Milwaukee riots or the unprecedented terrorist attacks at the inauguration were incited by their fake news stories.

Fake news as TRUMP labels them. Therein lies the problem.

The main thing is intent, knowingly broadcasting false info about a crime or disaster. There is a lot of sloppy fact checking going on but that is not a crime.

The only example I can think of that fulfills some of the criteria in an MSN story is Fox's Seth Rich one, it was on a crime, knowingly false and caused harm to the family but even that probably wouldn't fly.

Those types of laws usually have very high bars like free speech laws and for good reason. They could easily be used to silence them.

The other thing is network broadcasting is now only a small part of the media...much of the false news comes on the largely unregulated internet.

The best protection in this info age is to teach people critical thinking.

 

[Ame®icano]

Riiiight. Barry never said one thing and did opposite.

June 2008? That was before he was elected. Right after he was worn in, sometimes in February 2009, Democrats (Hinchey, Stabenow and Harkin), with Barry's blessing pushed for reinstating the "fairness doctrine" and he put Rivera to lead the transition.

You don't know about that? Oh, you were still in diapers...

Link?

You've been asked twice now.

Are you really unable to google it yourself?

Is CNN good enough for you?

Dems target right-wing talk radio

AIM?

Democrats’ New ‘Fairness’ Push May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts, Critics Say

HuffPost?

Putting Talk Radio on Trial at the FCC

Look kid, you are trying to prove something, but for that you need to know the subject(s). You've been proven wrong every time, over and over, and you're still dicking around like you're boss here. So far, you show nothing, because you know nothing. Grow up.

All your links talk about Democrats, not Obama like you said. So where is a quote from Obama threatening to take away the licenses of networks because they criticized him, like the one Trump made?

How could Trump take away the licenses of any network??????

How many times do you have to be told? People like Trump, who are narcissist control freaks with fascist ideals, find ways to accomplish their goals. Just because the path to doing so doesn't seem evident to you now, doesn't mean Trump isn't trying to find a way to accomplish it.

One would think when talking to someone like you, that thinks the U.S. governments creates false flag events to kill its own citizens to push an agenda, wouldn't be so blind to understanding such a thing.

Hey kid, you keep throwing big words around like you know what they mean.

You can't learn history from late night comedy shows, but from history books. Both, fascists and nazis were leftists. Do some reading, then come back here to discuss.

 

[Ame®icano]

So, if you're not part of a cookie cutter press, you're not "free".

Do you really want to say that rw press is "objective, independent" and not a "mouthpiece for the gop?

No, they're not free, they're biased. They lie freely and are freely biased. If lying is wrong, why do we tolerate either side doing it? I thought news was supposed to be accurate, not tainted by political views?

And just because I'm a conservative does not allow me to exempt the press organizations that are closer to my points of view.

Hence, why I said one "one party or the other." Do you even read the whole post or do you simply cherry pick?

No one is lying more than Trump. Can you acknowledge that he lies or not?

Of course he lies, all presidents have lied at some point or another. But that is just a convenient talking point for you. A default response when you have no real arguments to make.

" all presidents have lied at some point or another."

Ugh.... jesus man, so what? Trump is worse for the reasons he is worse. Criticizing his lying is like complaining about not getting a pickle on your burger at a fly-infested truck stop. The problems with Trump run much deeper than his special brand of dishonesty, which appears to also be self-delusion.

What is it that you are claiming Trump lied about? What has he allegedly lied about that has cost the serfs any money? Now, you may claim he was wrong about things as it pertains to your perception but that's not the same thing as flat out and knowingly lying like Bush 1 and 2 did...like Bill "drop trou" did or like the Barrypuppet did when he said "If you like your plan you can keep your plan...period" ad naseum...........put up or STFU.

Leftists always make claims that they can't back up. He lied, period. Don't you dare to ask for the proof.

 

[Coyote]

Link?

You've been asked twice now.

Are you really unable to google it yourself?

Is CNN good enough for you?

Dems target right-wing talk radio

AIM?

Democrats’ New ‘Fairness’ Push May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts, Critics Say

HuffPost?

Putting Talk Radio on Trial at the FCC

Look kid, you are trying to prove something, but for that you need to know the subject(s). You've been proven wrong every time, over and over, and you're still dicking around like you're boss here. So far, you show nothing, because you know nothing. Grow up.

All your links talk about Democrats, not Obama like you said. So where is a quote from Obama threatening to take away the licenses of networks because they criticized him, like the one Trump made?

How could Trump take away the licenses of any network??????

How many times do you have to be told? People like Trump, who are narcissist control freaks with fascist ideals, find ways to accomplish their goals. Just because the path to doing so doesn't seem evident to you now, doesn't mean Trump isn't trying to find a way to accomplish it.

One would think when talking to someone like you, that thinks the U.S. governments creates false flag events to kill its own citizens to push an agenda, wouldn't be so blind to understanding such a thing.

Hey kid, you keep throwing big words around like you know what they mean.

You can't learn history from late night comedy shows, but from history books. Both, fascists and nazis were leftists. Do some reading, then come back here to discuss.

He has apparently done more reading then you have...those claims are not supported by historians.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

How can people continue to support this guy? Can you think of any other historical figures that wanted to silence anyone that talked ill of them...?

""With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!" Mr Trump wrote in a tweet."

Donald Trump threatens to shut down NBC and other TV news networks that criticise him

James Madison and Thomas Jefferson said that the free press was a key element in having a true democracy.

"I am... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799. ME 10:78

Jefferson on Politics & Government: Freedom of the Press

How can you continue to support people who constantly lie to you about the election, conservatives as deplorables and other bullshit. Yeah, please start taking action against the LAMESTREAM MEDIA as We the People don't like PRAVDA and their continuing push of getting the US fundamentally transformed into the United Socialist States of America.

What's funnier than a Trumptard pretending to be opposed to lying?

For the last 8 years, we had a LIAR in CHIEF yet you liberals who were spooned fed those lies, got your ass handed to you, in the election later even when the lamestream, lickspittle, lapdog media who was all in for the crooked vagina candidate, couldn't get her across the finish line. Supposedly a free and honest press wouldn't be picking sides, unless like those who they support are as crooked as Hillary. Obama tried to shut Fox down for not towing the liberal line, you didn't say shit about that, did ya?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I don't agree with everything Trump says and does but the way he can screw with the media and get them to go into these hyperkinetic fits is funny as hell.

Actually....it kinda looks like the media is screwing with him.

Actually it looks like President Trump is having FUN with the lamestream media running around, showing their true RED(Communist) colors and it is driving the leftwing nutters, batshit crazy. And the patriotic US citizens are loving it.

 

[Ame®icano]

Link?

You've been asked twice now.

Are you really unable to google it yourself?

Is CNN good enough for you?

Dems target right-wing talk radio

AIM?

Democrats’ New ‘Fairness’ Push May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts, Critics Say

HuffPost?

Putting Talk Radio on Trial at the FCC

Look kid, you are trying to prove something, but for that you need to know the subject(s). You've been proven wrong every time, over and over, and you're still dicking around like you're boss here. So far, you show nothing, because you know nothing. Grow up.

All your links talk about Democrats, not Obama like you said. So where is a quote from Obama threatening to take away the licenses of networks because they criticized him, like the one Trump made?

How could Trump take away the licenses of any network??????

How many times do you have to be told? People like Trump, who are narcissist control freaks with fascist ideals, find ways to accomplish their goals. Just because the path to doing so doesn't seem evident to you now, doesn't mean Trump isn't trying to find a way to accomplish it.

One would think when talking to someone like you, that thinks the U.S. governments creates false flag events to kill its own citizens to push an agenda, wouldn't be so blind to understanding such a thing.

Spare me, moron....there is NOTHING an uneducated and uninformed moron like you can "hip" me to. We just got rid of a narcissistic pile of shit that was the biggest "empty suit" in any room that he was in with no skins on the wall or admirable accomplishments. Your pathetic attempts to paint Trump as a fascist is nothing but you spewing leftard and lamestream media talking points. There is NOTHING that Trump has proposed or wishes to accomplish that falls under the definition of fascism.

I love this post... Man you killed it.

 

[Marion Morrison]

"“When the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.” -Thomas Jefferson 1799

“Nothing could be more irrational than to give the people power, and to withhold from them information without which power is abused. A people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with power which knowledge gives. A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy, or perhaps both.” -James Madison [1751-1836]

https://www.nieonline.com/thelearningforum/downloads/napi/speaking_of_a_free_press.pdf

Yep, and the aforementioned networks have been caught lying by omission repeatedly. Yank their licenses if they want to interject opinion/withhold information in the news.


I'm all for yanking their licenses because they are lying, political hack douches.


Report the facts and STFU.

 

[Ame®icano]

Are you really unable to google it yourself?

Is CNN good enough for you?

Dems target right-wing talk radio

AIM?

Democrats’ New ‘Fairness’ Push May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts, Critics Say

HuffPost?

Putting Talk Radio on Trial at the FCC

Look kid, you are trying to prove something, but for that you need to know the subject(s). You've been proven wrong every time, over and over, and you're still dicking around like you're boss here. So far, you show nothing, because you know nothing. Grow up.

All your links talk about Democrats, not Obama like you said. So where is a quote from Obama threatening to take away the licenses of networks because they criticized him, like the one Trump made?

How could Trump take away the licenses of any network??????

How many times do you have to be told? People like Trump, who are narcissist control freaks with fascist ideals, find ways to accomplish their goals. Just because the path to doing so doesn't seem evident to you now, doesn't mean Trump isn't trying to find a way to accomplish it.

One would think when talking to someone like you, that thinks the U.S. governments creates false flag events to kill its own citizens to push an agenda, wouldn't be so blind to understanding such a thing.

Spare me, moron....there is NOTHING an uneducated and uninformed moron like you can "hip" me to. We just got rid of a narcissistic pile of shit that was the biggest "empty suit" in any room that he was in with no skins on the wall or admirable accomplishments. Your pathetic attempts to paint Trump as a fascist is nothing is you doing nothing but spewing leftard and lamestream media talking points. There is NOTHING that Trump has proposed or wishes to accomplish that falls under the definition of fascism.

So you got nothing? How many Tweets from Obama talking bad about people in his cabinet?

Do you know what the definition of fascism is? I love how you change your moral compass and political position so quickly.

Our government has no problem breaking the law to kill its own citizens to perpetrate a false flag event in your eyes... but you think it is beyond comprehension that Trump could find a way to accomplish his goal of taking away the licenses from networks he doesn't like because there are rules in place.

Let's try this...

Tell us definition of fascism, but the one that fascists from 1930's said it is.

 

[Ame®icano]

Dude, you really are a simpleton with a very short attention span.There is the government that you believe we have and the shadow government that really calls the shots. AND from I where I am standing? Trump and some white hats within the Deep State are standing up against this shadowy entity that controls the military industrial complex and all these incorporated alphabet agencies. Personally, I think Trump is on a fool's errand trying to rein in these globalist sacks of shit that control all but a few countries monetary system. Ever since the deep state killed Kennedy, it has only gotten worse.

How do you know this?

How do I know "what", exactly? Be specific..........are you referring to the shadow government or the murder of JFK???

The mysterious shadow government. JFK doesn't concern me. The past is the past.

It became a reality with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913...........like Amschel Rothschild claimed (and I am paraphrasing) "Give me control over a country's monetary system and I care not whom makes their laws". Did you know that when President Eisenhower inquired to the goings on in the desert of Nevada known as Area 51 that he was told that he had no jurisdiction? Why are there 30 plus security levels higher than that of the POTUS? Who elected these people and where is the oversight? Have you stopped to ponder those very salient points? The "government" is a corporate entity and our labor was pledged as surety against the debt via the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of USA.INC on March 8th, 1933. We are debt slaves that have never been compensated for our labor in real money......something of an intrinsic value.

The murder of JFK has no bearing on what we are facing now? You couldn't be more wrong.........

Not related to this thread, but JFK was killed by Oswald who was working with a group of Cubans. The Cubans were part of a program that was created by JFK to train them for the Bay of Pigs invasion to overthrow Castro. Problem was JFK pulled military support for them in the midst of the fighting, that caused many of them to die and the coup to fail. These Cubans were then pissed and vowed to take revenge on JFK. Castro was able to get a mole in the group to help push the assassination agenda for his own revenge as well.

Now, what has Trump lied about? Well how about a recent lie where he says that the U.S. is the most taxed country in the world. That's not true at all.

"That's not true at all". LOL

And we should just take your word for granted?

Listen kid,... when you claim something is not true, you should provide some data that proves yours and disprove the opposing claim. Since you haven't done it, your "that's not true at all" doesn't cut it. Stop acting like an idiot, grow up, and you might get somewhere.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Who decides what is "fake"?

Facts...

...of course when 'news' agencies refuse to report news or admit live on air they have refused to report scandals to protect politicians / candidates - like MSNBC and CNN...

Facts. Like Fox's story on Seth Rich?

What about Seth Rich? Fox was late on that story. I was posting about long before Fox did and alternative media got it right. Seth Rich was the leaker and he was murdered by operatives within the DNC and the Washington police department heads are covering it up. Why was Seth Rich's computer seized if this was just a random burglary? Why did the D.C police let the DNC heads that there was a P.I snooping around? Why did the D.N.C refuse to turn their server over to the F.B.I but instead allowed DNC friendly CloudStrike do all the legwork? You obviously have no intellectual curiosity and believe that your beloved sack of shit political party is as pure as the new driven snow. The ends justifies the means, right, wiley coyote????

^Fake news.

The problem is that you idiots can't tell the difference between real and fake. It's exactly why the Russian misinformation campaign was so brilliantly effective. They've got you pegged. Trump is still playing you even after more than enough evidence has surfaced to warrant skepticism.
It would be interesting to see how many threads were created that pushed the narratives that have since been identified as Russian generated disinformation.

 

[Ame®icano]

How do I know "what", exactly? Be specific..........are you referring to the shadow government or the murder of JFK???

The mysterious shadow government. JFK doesn't concern me. The past is the past.

It became a reality with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913...........like Amschel Rothschild claimed (and I am paraphrasing) "Give me control over a country's monetary system and I care not whom makes their laws". Did you know that when President Eisenhower inquired to the goings on in the desert of Nevada known as Area 51 that he was told that he had no jurisdiction? Why are there 30 plus security levels higher than that of the POTUS? Who elected these people and where is the oversight? Have you stopped to ponder those very salient points? The "government" is a corporate entity and our labor was pledged as surety against the debt via the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of USA.INC on March 8th, 1933. We are debt slaves that have never been compensated for our labor in real money......something of an intrinsic value.

The murder of JFK has no bearing on what we are facing now? You couldn't be more wrong.........

Not related to this thread, but JFK was killed by Oswald who was working with a group of Cubans. The Cubans were part of a program that was created by JFK to train them for the Bay of Pigs invasion to overthrow Castro. Problem was JFK pulled military support for them in the midst of the fighting, that caused many of them to die and the coup to fail. These Cubans were then pissed and vowed to take revenge on JFK. Castro was able to get a mole in the group to help push the assassination agenda for his own revenge as well.

Now, what has Trump lied about? Well how about a recent lie where he says that the U.S. is the most taxed country in the world. That's not true at all.

What is tax freedom day now? May 5th? That means once all the taxes and all other fees are figured in that the Average American works until May 5th for this corporate entity that you worship at the feet of. If us serfs are not the most taxed population? I would hate to have to live some place else that steals even more of what our labor produces.

And as far as the JFK murder goes? You are 100 percent WRONG. Oswald was a patsy and worked in military intelligence. The cover-up of the murder of JFK goes to incredibly great lengths to hide the truth. The Warren commission findings were a total joke. JFK took on the bankers that finance the military industrial complex and the CIA and lost......bottom line.


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Trump's statement about the U.S. being the highest taxed country in the world is wrong. It's been proven. Not only are we NOT the highest taxed country in the world, we are below the average of the 35 countries included in the study.

"This statement is completely false. According to 2015 data from the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), taxation accounted for 26.4 percent of the United States’ gross domestic product (GDP). This was lower than the average for the 35 nations in the OECD (34.3 percent) and in some cases far lower than comparable countries (45.5 percent in France, for instance)."

Trump returns to false tax claim as he pushes for reform

Oswald worked with a group of Cuban revolutionaries named Alpha 66.

But again, that is off topic.

Aha.

You pick the information that can back your claim if you take only that information into count.

Answer this. How much money federal government collect in all taxes?

 

[Marion Morrison]

The mysterious shadow government. JFK doesn't concern me. The past is the past.

It became a reality with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913...........like Amschel Rothschild claimed (and I am paraphrasing) "Give me control over a country's monetary system and I care not whom makes their laws". Did you know that when President Eisenhower inquired to the goings on in the desert of Nevada known as Area 51 that he was told that he had no jurisdiction? Why are there 30 plus security levels higher than that of the POTUS? Who elected these people and where is the oversight? Have you stopped to ponder those very salient points? The "government" is a corporate entity and our labor was pledged as surety against the debt via the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of USA.INC on March 8th, 1933. We are debt slaves that have never been compensated for our labor in real money......something of an intrinsic value.

The murder of JFK has no bearing on what we are facing now? You couldn't be more wrong.........

Not related to this thread, but JFK was killed by Oswald who was working with a group of Cubans. The Cubans were part of a program that was created by JFK to train them for the Bay of Pigs invasion to overthrow Castro. Problem was JFK pulled military support for them in the midst of the fighting, that caused many of them to die and the coup to fail. These Cubans were then pissed and vowed to take revenge on JFK. Castro was able to get a mole in the group to help push the assassination agenda for his own revenge as well.

Now, what has Trump lied about? Well how about a recent lie where he says that the U.S. is the most taxed country in the world. That's not true at all.

What is tax freedom day now? May 5th? That means once all the taxes and all other fees are figured in that the Average American works until May 5th for this corporate entity that you worship at the feet of. If us serfs are not the most taxed population? I would hate to have to live some place else that steals even more of what our labor produces.

And as far as the JFK murder goes? You are 100 percent WRONG. Oswald was a patsy and worked in military intelligence. The cover-up of the murder of JFK goes to incredibly great lengths to hide the truth. The Warren commission findings were a total joke. JFK took on the bankers that finance the military industrial complex and the CIA and lost......bottom line.


View attachment 153892

Trump's statement about the U.S. being the highest taxed country in the world is wrong. It's been proven. Not only are we NOT the highest taxed country in the world, we are below the average of the 35 countries included in the study.

"This statement is completely false. According to 2015 data from the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), taxation accounted for 26.4 percent of the United States’ gross domestic product (GDP). This was lower than the average for the 35 nations in the OECD (34.3 percent) and in some cases far lower than comparable countries (45.5 percent in France, for instance)."

Trump returns to false tax claim as he pushes for reform

Oswald worked with a group of Cuban revolutionaries named Alpha 66.

But again, that is off topic.

Aha.

You pick the information that can back your claim if you take only that information into count.

Answer this. How much money federal government collect in all taxes?

Idk, but Americans are taxed 30%+ of their income.

$3.7 trillion

according to this:
US Government Revenue in $ trillion for Federal, State, and Local for 2018 - Charts

 

[Ame®icano]

How can people continue to support this guy? Can you think of any other historical figures that wanted to silence anyone that talked ill of them...?

""With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!" Mr Trump wrote in a tweet."

Trump raises a thoughtful and legitimate question. The airwaves belong to the public and there are FCC rules regarding their use. And some licensees such as CNN and MSNBC consistently broadcast hoaxes or "fake news" as Trump has labeled them.

Here is the relevant law regarding broadcast hoaxes.


§ 73.1217 Broadcast hoaxes.
No licensee or permittee of any broadcast station shall broadcast false information concerning a crime or a catastrophe if:

(a) The licensee knows this information is false;

(b) It is forseeable that broadcast of the information will cause substantial public harm, and

(c) Broadcast of the information does in fact directly cause substantial public harm.

Any programming accompanied by a disclaimer will be presumed not to pose foreseeable harm if the disclaimer clearly characterizes the program as a fiction and is presented in a way that is reasonable under the circumstances.


So what it basically comes down to is whether or not any of their multitude of broadcast hoaxes have ever directly caused substantial public harm. I agree with Trump that this needs to be looked into. For instance, they could investigate the possibility that any of these Milwaukee riots or the unprecedented terrorist attacks at the inauguration were incited by their fake news stories.

Fake news as TRUMP labels them. Therein lies the problem.

The main thing is intent, knowingly broadcasting false info about a crime or disaster. There is a lot of sloppy fact checking going on but that is not a crime.

The only example I can think of that fulfills some of the criteria in an MSN story is Fox's Seth Rich one, it was on a crime, knowingly false and caused harm to the family but even that probably wouldn't fly.

Those types of laws usually have very high bars like free speech laws and for good reason. They could easily be used to silence them.

The other thing is network broadcasting is now only a small part of the media...much of the false news comes on the largely unregulated internet.

The best protection in this info age is to teach people critical thinking.

The intent is to bash Trump weather is the truth, half truth or a lie and for that, no fact checking is needed.

Isn't it interesting how NBC don't have a problem to spread lies about Trump or the right, but did have a problem to publish the well documented report about Weinstein?

The time when they were controlling the information is gone, and they can't stand that anyone question them anymore. That's why meltdowns, not just in media, but throughout the whole left.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I have to explain to you what you are giving Trump a pass on? Go back and re-read your last 3 or 4 posts and answer your own question.

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haha, madeup nonsense. as if you have any idea what security cameras did or did not capture. who fed this garbage to you ... aliens?

Get bent, moron........you spew global warming bullshit while ignoring the stratospheric aerosol injection program of heavy metal nano-particulates. You are a joke in search of a punchline.

"while ignoring the stratospheric aerosol injection program of heavy metal nano-particulates"

As does everyone on earth who knows anything about anything, because you are a hack with no credibility and no standing in the scientific community whatsoever.

I know infinitely more than you. There are PLENTY of scientists that have been warning about the artificial warming, cooling and weather modification programs using geo-engineering. Water and soil samples are scientific, no? Here is your "climate-change"....take a real close look and then tell me that this is normal.


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Normal for a departure corridor from a busy airport.
Tell us us how you differentiate between a naturally occurring vapor trail and diabolical govt program.

 

[Muhammed]

How can people continue to support this guy? Can you think of any other historical figures that wanted to silence anyone that talked ill of them...?

""With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!" Mr Trump wrote in a tweet."

Trump raises a thoughtful and legitimate question. The airwaves belong to the public and there are FCC rules regarding their use. And some licensees such as CNN and MSNBC consistently broadcast hoaxes or "fake news" as Trump has labeled them.

Here is the relevant law regarding broadcast hoaxes.


§ 73.1217 Broadcast hoaxes.
No licensee or permittee of any broadcast station shall broadcast false information concerning a crime or a catastrophe if:

(a) The licensee knows this information is false;

(b) It is forseeable that broadcast of the information will cause substantial public harm, and

(c) Broadcast of the information does in fact directly cause substantial public harm.

Any programming accompanied by a disclaimer will be presumed not to pose foreseeable harm if the disclaimer clearly characterizes the program as a fiction and is presented in a way that is reasonable under the circumstances.


So what it basically comes down to is whether or not any of their multitude of broadcast hoaxes have ever directly caused substantial public harm. I agree with Trump that this needs to be looked into. For instance, they could investigate the possibility that any of these Milwaukee riots or the unprecedented terrorist attacks at the inauguration were incited by their fake news stories.

Fake news as TRUMP labels them. Therein lies the problem.

The main thing is intent, knowingly broadcasting false info about a crime or disaster. There is a lot of sloppy fact checking going on but that is not a crime.

The only example I can think of that fulfills some of the criteria in an MSN story is Fox's Seth Rich one, it was on a crime, knowingly false and caused harm to the family but even that probably wouldn't fly.

Those types of laws usually have very high bars like free speech laws and for good reason. They could easily be used to silence them.

The other thing is network broadcasting is now only a small part of the media...much of the false news comes on the largely unregulated internet.

The best protection in this info age is to teach people critical thinking.

I saw that report on Seth Rich. I didn't see anything in it that was demonstrably false.

If you did I'd certainly like you to show us the part that was demonstrably false.

 

[Ame®icano]

Are you really unable to google it yourself?

Is CNN good enough for you?

Dems target right-wing talk radio

AIM?

Democrats’ New ‘Fairness’ Push May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts, Critics Say

HuffPost?

Putting Talk Radio on Trial at the FCC

Look kid, you are trying to prove something, but for that you need to know the subject(s). You've been proven wrong every time, over and over, and you're still dicking around like you're boss here. So far, you show nothing, because you know nothing. Grow up.

All your links talk about Democrats, not Obama like you said. So where is a quote from Obama threatening to take away the licenses of networks because they criticized him, like the one Trump made?

How could Trump take away the licenses of any network??????

How many times do you have to be told? People like Trump, who are narcissist control freaks with fascist ideals, find ways to accomplish their goals. Just because the path to doing so doesn't seem evident to you now, doesn't mean Trump isn't trying to find a way to accomplish it.

One would think when talking to someone like you, that thinks the U.S. governments creates false flag events to kill its own citizens to push an agenda, wouldn't be so blind to understanding such a thing.

Hey kid, you keep throwing big words around like you know what they mean.

You can't learn history from late night comedy shows, but from history books. Both, fascists and nazis were leftists. Do some reading, then come back here to discuss.

He has apparently done more reading then you have...those claims are not supported by historians.

Why don't you read some of the Mussolini's writings before you open your mouth and expose the empty cavity?

Tell me what he meant when he said this:

"We do not argue with those who disagree with us, we destroy them".

Or this:

"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

Today's definition of fascism itself, that by the way leftists changed from it's initial meaning has little to do with fascism. To understand its meaning you have to get into what fascists said about themselves and listen to their own words.

Take the origin of the word fascism (fascio) and it's meaning, you might start getting the picture.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So....you support the government taking away the licenses of news networks that say things it doesn't like?

NBC lied and their lie caused our allies and other countries around the world grave concern. FACT!

It's not a fact. NBC stands by their story and their three sources. What is your proof? The word of a moron?

NBC stood by Dan Rather and his fake memos until the they were shamed into admitted the truth.

Time will tell. I'm confident. It's you fools who get taken every time.

Hmmm, no it's not. The fake media has been nailed broadcasting lies so many times I've lost count. They've spewed a long series of nothing burgers, and every time morons like you claimed it was the end of Trump.

Sure. Tell us some more about Beghazi, emails, Clinton murders, Obama's birth cert, being a secret Muslim, Michelle is a tranny, ...etc. It goes on and on and on. None of that shit is or ever was real but you, personally, as well as others have gone on about this shit for years. It's always you dopes who are fooled and you always go back for more.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Ooooo, good defense.

Defense?

It's a straight up lie. Post up one MSM source that reported that as fact.

You want an article of hookers peeing on a bed....let me check with some Democrats down the street.

You don't have it?

Hutch Starskey

Someone need to tell Thinker101 it wasn't and isn't the Dems who reported that the cheeto likes to watch hookers pee on a bed.

Sure it was. They paid for the dossier.

Link it, liar.