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You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. Though I don't agree with many of the conservative values taught in Islam, I still respect many of its lessons but more importantly I respect the first amendment of our constitution and our citizens rights to freely practice their religion-------------------------------------- no one asked me but in response , I'm not concerned with my safety . I see islam as being destructive to Western values simply when muslims are able to vote plus there are other considerations but voting by muslims is a problem Slade .I don't think you are hateful just for supporting Trump or the travel ban, I wasn't implying that. I was speaking to the people like Miketx and others that don't want any Muslims In this country. Concerns over our safety are very real and fair, so I'd like to see solutions. The 90 day travel ban as I understood it was so they could make vetting better, so I'm just trying to find out what they have doneI am not hateful and i resent you saying any different based on nothing more than a difference of opinion you may have with me.Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
I voted for Trump and I supported temporarily limiting travel until they could adapt a more effective screening process.
With that said, your asking a fair question that i hope someone can answer. Ild like to know what steps have been taken
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------------------------ and they aren't CONSERVATIVE values , they are muslim values and these muslim values are incompatible with USA and Western values Slade !!You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. Though I don't agree with many of the conservative values taught in Islam, I still respect many of its lessons but more importantly I respect the first amendment of our constitution and our citizens rights to freely practice their religion-------------------------------------- no one asked me but in response , I'm not concerned with my safety . I see islam as being destructive to Western values simply when muslims are able to vote plus there are other considerations but voting by muslims is a problem Slade .I don't think you are hateful just for supporting Trump or the travel ban, I wasn't implying that. I was speaking to the people like Miketx and others that don't want any Muslims In this country. Concerns over our safety are very real and fair, so I'd like to see solutions. The 90 day travel ban as I understood it was so they could make vetting better, so I'm just trying to find out what they have doneI am not hateful and i resent you saying any different based on nothing more than a difference of opinion you may have with me.Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
I voted for Trump and I supported temporarily limiting travel until they could adapt a more effective screening process.
With that said, your asking a fair question that i hope someone can answer. Ild like to know what steps have been taken
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Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Nailed it right there. Trump will pick his ego over America every time, and his base of inbreds are happy to stroke it.
Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
The UK is a target right now because it is too soft on lslamic terrorism. There is probably a correlation between origins and travels of the terrorists and US Travel banned countries. You people insist on making this a 100 percent Muslim ban which is false. The truth is, the travel bannec countries are fertile hot beds for Islamo extremist terror and present a threat to the West. Stop perpetuating the lie that this is an outright ban on Muslims.
Better yet, ask the Democrats to run on removing Obama's travel ban that Trump approved and is continuing. See how far that gets you.
I will explain this for you Slade---------->
It is now a political question of the Commander and Chiefs powers. So much has been made from both sides, that he can, or can NOT do this, the question needs answered. The constitution says he can. The lower courts claim he can NOT.
And so, now it is time to answer the political question, which will surely have ramifications down the road.
Do I know which side is going to win? Nope! Although, I believe it will be 7 to 2 in favor of the President, but I have seen stranger things happen if he was to lose.
Point is------>will the Supreme Court uphold what scholars say are his constitutional powers, or not? If not, the left may very well be correct, and he will resign, or not run for re-election. In my book, this is a watershed moment..........not for illegal immigration, not for his authority under the constitution to prevent ANY persons he so chooses to immigrate to this country..........but rather, how close the Supreme Court is going to enforce the constitution, thus his ability to govern!
------------------------ and they aren't CONSERVATIVE values , they are muslim values and these muslim values are incompatible with USA and Western values Slade !!You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. Though I don't agree with many of the conservative values taught in Islam, I still respect many of its lessons but more importantly I respect the first amendment of our constitution and our citizens rights to freely practice their religion-------------------------------------- no one asked me but in response , I'm not concerned with my safety . I see islam as being destructive to Western values simply when muslims are able to vote plus there are other considerations but voting by muslims is a problem Slade .I don't think you are hateful just for supporting Trump or the travel ban, I wasn't implying that. I was speaking to the people like Miketx and others that don't want any Muslims In this country. Concerns over our safety are very real and fair, so I'd like to see solutions. The 90 day travel ban as I understood it was so they could make vetting better, so I'm just trying to find out what they have doneI am not hateful and i resent you saying any different based on nothing more than a difference of opinion you may have with me.Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
I voted for Trump and I supported temporarily limiting travel until they could adapt a more effective screening process.
With that said, your asking a fair question that i hope someone can answer. Ild like to know what steps have been taken
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Yep.Interesting. So you think the 90 days was to get the ball rolling on an indefinite travel ban. I think that is what the liberals are seeing as his motive here and why it is being blocked by the courts. Extreme vetting means no entry, I think you are on to something.After the latest Muzzie terror attack in London, that 90 days now extends out to "Indefinitely" - until we say so... a 5-4 SCOTUS should help with that.Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
Yep...We are a country of equal opportunity, always have been. If somebody wants to live here, work here, and achieve success then this is the place where they can do it. That's the spirit of America.------------------------------- hope so , also hope that Trump gets his favorable ruling , lets get that ball rolling . As I have often asked , why are any more or any muslim imports needed in the USA Slade .Interesting. So you think the 90 days was to get the ball rolling on an indefinite travel ban. I think that is what the liberals are seeing as his motive here and why it is being blocked by the courts. Extreme vetting means no entry, I think you are on to something.After the latest Muzzie terror attack in London, that 90 days now extends out to "Indefinitely" - until we say so... a 5-4 SCOTUS should help with that.Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
By Andrew Blake - The Washington Times - Friday, June 2, 2017
The State Department has implemented a new vetting process requiring certain visa applicants to give the government a list of their email addresses and social media handles, much to the chagrin of immigration attorneys and free-speech advocates.
Foreigners seeking American visas may now be asked to answer a supplemental questionnaire requesting biographical information including addresses, employment and travel histories, as well as five years’ worth of social media handles and email addresses, according to a policy change quietly put in place by the Trump administration last week.
If he had no intention of working on a vetting system and just wanted to ban all Muslims from enetering our country like he said during the campaign then I do think it is hateful policy. His actions since the EO haven't yet shown an effort to work on the vetting which is concerning to meYup and im genuinly curious what steps he has taken to improve or at least evaulate the current measures. I was put off by how you characterized that his promise was to placate his hateful base but i got thick skinI don't think you are hateful just for supporting Trump or the travel ban, I wasn't implying that. I was speaking to the people like Miketx and others that don't want any Muslims In this country. Concerns over our safety are very real and fair, so I'd like to see solutions. The 90 day travel ban as I understood it was so they could make vetting better, so I'm just trying to find out what they have doneI am not hateful and i resent you saying any different based on nothing more than a difference of opinion you may have with me.Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
I voted for Trump and I supported temporarily limiting travel until they could adapt a more effective screening process.
With that said, your asking a fair question that i hope someone can answer. Ild like to know what steps have been taken
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Again you dodge the question and jump to the partisan attacks. I guess we all know the answer, that there is no plan for the extreme vetting, all he's got so far is ban Muslims starting with the ones in the 7 countries from the EOBlock all muslims or block everyone from those restricted countries?Care to stop bullshitting? Terrorist can't be vetted. Block them all.Care to address the OP and answer the question about vetting?Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
The UK is a target right now because it is too soft on lslamic terrorism. There is probably a correlation between origins and travels of the terrorists and US Travel banned countries. You people insist on making this a 100 percent Muslim ban which is false. The truth is, the travel bannec countries are fertile hot beds for Islamo extremist terror and present a threat to the West. Stop perpetuating the lie that this is an outright ban on Muslims.
Better yet, ask the Democrats to run on removing Obama's travel ban that Trump approved and is continuing. See how far that gets you.
The Left does not want to vet. Vetting means background checks, surveillance, it all takes time. Further, how accurate is vetting a person from Yemen vs someone from New Jersey? Here's a solution, if someone wants in to the US from one of the 7 banned countries and valid data is lacking, they need to understand the situation and that their circumstance of entry to the US from a hostile territory is not the same as one from a friendly or at least territory where valid data is available to mitigate the probability that they are a threat. Come up with a process where the emigrating person has some onus or skin in the game to get themselves vetted. But then, that still won't be good enough for the Left
Good. Ban them all.Again you dodge the question and jump to the partisan attacks. I guess we all know the answer, that there is no plan for the extreme vetting, all he's got so far is ban Muslims starting with the ones in the 7 countries from the EOBlock all muslims or block everyone from those restricted countries?Care to stop bullshitting? Terrorist can't be vetted. Block them all.Care to address the OP and answer the question about vetting?The UK is a target right now because it is too soft on lslamic terrorism. There is probably a correlation between origins and travels of the terrorists and US Travel banned countries. You people insist on making this a 100 percent Muslim ban which is false. The truth is, the travel bannec countries are fertile hot beds for Islamo extremist terror and present a threat to the West. Stop perpetuating the lie that this is an outright ban on Muslims.
Better yet, ask the Democrats to run on removing Obama's travel ban that Trump approved and is continuing. See how far that gets you.
The Left does not want to vet. Vetting means background checks, surveillance, it all takes time. Further, how accurate is vetting a person from Yemen vs someone from New Jersey? Here's a solution, if someone wants in to the US from one of the 7 banned countries and valid data is lacking, they need to understand the situation and that their circumstance of entry to the US from a hostile territory is not the same as one from a friendly or at least territory where valid data is available to mitigate the probability that they are a threat. Come up with a process where the emigrating person has some onus or skin in the game to get themselves vetted. But then, that still won't be good enough for the Left
No, they are not. The courts have blocked the travel restriction which included the vetting. If Trump had tried to implement the new vetting while under court injunction, there would have been a real legal issue, instead of these phony obstruction issues.Do you really not understand the question or are you punting around it because you can't answer. I'm asking about the vetting. 90 days is upThe liberal scum keep blocking it.I dont want Muslim butchers here. I'd like to see what this "extreme vetting" plan is, don't you? Where is it?He's trying to keep muslim butchers out of the country. Why do you want them here?Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
It doesn't seem like you are understanding the situation at hand. You appear to be talking just about immigration and perhaps the refuge situation. Trumps travel ban also effects travelers visiting from these countries. These are family members of American citizens and could also effect Americans that travel to and from these countries. If we need to vet better then fine I'm all for it but I haven't heard any proposals just rhetoric. Last time I checked we have an almost two year vetting process for refuges and when I've asked people on this board to fine the holes or areas to improve, I get cricketsI've said it before , existing muslims in the USA should be left alone to be Americans . BUT , I see no problem with excluding any foreigner from the USA based on any reason including religion . I think that TRUMP exclusion or vetting , travel ban or whatever it is is Legal and like I said , excluding muslims is legally fine imo . As said by some , if mrobama had issued the travel ban it would have been be legal . These lefty judges are using Trumps words before he was elected President as reason to nullify Trumps order Slade .
What values are you talking about?------------------------ and they aren't CONSERVATIVE values , they are muslim values and these muslim values are incompatible with USA and Western values Slade !!You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. Though I don't agree with many of the conservative values taught in Islam, I still respect many of its lessons but more importantly I respect the first amendment of our constitution and our citizens rights to freely practice their religion-------------------------------------- no one asked me but in response , I'm not concerned with my safety . I see islam as being destructive to Western values simply when muslims are able to vote plus there are other considerations but voting by muslims is a problem Slade .I don't think you are hateful just for supporting Trump or the travel ban, I wasn't implying that. I was speaking to the people like Miketx and others that don't want any Muslims In this country. Concerns over our safety are very real and fair, so I'd like to see solutions. The 90 day travel ban as I understood it was so they could make vetting better, so I'm just trying to find out what they have doneI am not hateful and i resent you saying any different based on nothing more than a difference of opinion you may have with me.Trumps Travel ban has been explained as a 90 day moratorium on travel from a handful of countries so that extreme vetting measures can be established.
Although the travel restrictions have been blocked by the courts there have been no restrictions to prevent him from improving our vetting measures. Had the ban not been blocked, the 90 day period would have long expired. So what does he have to show for it from a vetting standpoint?
Is he really trying to improve vetting or is he just trying to block people from traveling here and gain a political victory to a hateful base?
Please help me understand Trumps goals in relation to the 90 day timeframe and extreme vetting initiatives.
I voted for Trump and I supported temporarily limiting travel until they could adapt a more effective screening process.
With that said, your asking a fair question that i hope someone can answer. Ild like to know what steps have been taken
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