Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[RealDave]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

First, dipstick, the cost you post is different from the 123 your orange buddy posted. Irregardless, the cist is not a bet cost.

Second, El Dumpster has already backed off his promise for a "wall" the entire length of the border.

Third, bei8nbg the complete idiot you are, you assume the wall will completely end illegal immigration.

4th, bring up the Great Wall of China as an example of how a wall would work is really stupid as there was not air travel back then. How many illegals get here by airplane? Look it up sometimes & become better informed.

As for do the math, math is a science & you fuckwads hate science.

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The only fact is the first number and that's probably low.

All studies of migrant workers have shown a benefit to the economy, especially in Texas.

So yet another ignorant bigot post bripig.

Whether it benefits "the economy," a meangless abstractiin, isn't the issue. Whether it benefits American citizens is the issue, and clearly it doesn"t. Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

Sent from my SM-G935P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Thanks for regurgitating all the discredited Leftwing talking points. We have already heard them at least 1000 times, and we knew they were lies years ago. I won't even waste my time disputing them.

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

First, dipstick, the cost you post is different from the 123 your orange buddy posted. Irregardless, the cist is not a bet cost.

Second, El Dumpster has already backed off his promise for a "wall" the entire length of the border.

Third, bei8nbg the complete idiot you are, you assume the wall will completely end illegal immigration.

4th, bring up the Great Wall of China as an example of how a wall would work is really stupid as there was not air travel back then. How many illegals get here by airplane? Look it up sometimes & become better informed.

As for do the math, math is a science & you fuckwads hate science.

All lies and obvious idiocies, of course, I've dealt with each of these bogus arguments hundreds of times already. When are you douche bags just going to admit that you want an open border?

 

[danielpalos]

Mexico is one of our largest trading partners.

And your link says that we have a negative trade balance with them. Which means it would be to our advantage for us to lose them altogether as a trade partner. You LWNJs continue to make the best case yet for a border wall!

This is Why, Nobody should ever take the right wing seriously about economics.

Trade Deficit With Mexico Is Good for America

Mexico is a case in point. The country is America’s third-largest trading partner, with $525 billion in annual trade between them. It exports goods to the U.S. worth nearly $63 billion more than it imports. Only three other countries run larger surpluses with the U.S., making Mexico an obvious target for the Trump administration.

 

[RealDave]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

First, dipstick, the cost you post is different from the 123 your orange buddy posted. Irregardless, the cist is not a bet cost.

Second, El Dumpster has already backed off his promise for a "wall" the entire length of the border.

Third, bei8nbg the complete idiot you are, you assume the wall will completely end illegal immigration.

4th, bring up the Great Wall of China as an example of how a wall would work is really stupid as there was not air travel back then. How many illegals get here by airplane? Look it up sometimes & become better informed.

As for do the math, math is a science & you fuckwads hate science.

All lies and obvious idiocies, of course, I've dealt with each of these bogus arguments hundreds of times already. When are you douche bags just going to admit that you want an open border?

So, you think the border is open now. We have no border patrol, no walls/fences, no check points.

You're a moron.

 

[Wyatt earp]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The only fact is the first number and that's probably low.

All studies of migrant workers have shown a benefit to the economy, especially in Texas.

So yet another ignorant bigot post bripig.

Whether it benefits "the economy," a meangless abstractiin, isn't the issue. Whether it benefits American citizens is the issue, and clearly it doesn"t. Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

Sent from my SM-G935P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Once again supply and demand, get rid of 20 million illegals , wages would rise I would pick apples for $20 bucks an hour..


People still like apples, Apple pie, Apple whine , apple juice and who can ever ever eat pork chops with out Apple sauce?







.
.

 

[Wyatt earp]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

First, dipstick, the cost you post is different from the 123 your orange buddy posted. Irregardless, the cist is not a bet cost.

Second, El Dumpster has already backed off his promise for a "wall" the entire length of the border.

Third, bei8nbg the complete idiot you are, you assume the wall will completely end illegal immigration.

4th, bring up the Great Wall of China as an example of how a wall would work is really stupid as there was not air travel back then. How many illegals get here by airplane? Look it up sometimes & become better informed.

As for do the math, math is a science & you fuckwads hate science.

All lies and obvious idiocies, of course, I've dealt with each of these bogus arguments hundreds of times already. When are you douche bags just going to admit that you want an open border?

So, you think the border is open now. We have no border patrol, no walls/fences, no check points.

You're a moron.

So what's your problem then? Oh yea Trump said it, the racist slurs you call a fellow liberal just because he now has a (R) after his name.


..

 

[Dragonlady]

Damn ... there you go confusing the left with facts again!!

Don't you know the left can't count past 20? Well, the men can count to 21, (probably closer to 20 1/2) .... ??

The Comrade's wall is not going to get built.. Congress has already said NO--they're not going to fund it, and for good reason--they don't work. A great video on this--at the end of this video it will tell you how much we already wasted on walls and fences. Then it will move into another video regarding the terrain issues, and the problems with structural security.



Watch the above video through it's entirety.

They have found 240 of these in the San Diego region alone.
The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels

The only way to secure the border is with high tech motion detectors and more border patrol stations. Anything they can see--can and will always be compromised.

So you showed, what, a dozen people getting through it? How many got through before they built those walls, 600,000/year? All your stupid transparent claims about the wall not working depend on it not being watched. The effectiveness of anyone guarding the boarder without a wall will be magnified 1000 times by the wall.

Build the fucking wall, moron.

There are more Mexicans moving back to Mexico than are making illegal crossings and that's been true since jobs dried up in the Great Recession. These are facts, not that you've ever listened to facts before.

The wall will never be built.

 

[Siete]

deporting 20 million people would have crushed the economy and everyone but idiots knew that so it got checked off Shitforhairs to do list.

his "BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL" is just another pipe dream that made simpleton dick get hard, and capture votes, aka HORSESHIT.

take a look around dumbshits, none of the campaign bullshit he hooked you with will come true.

SUCKERS.

 

[The Original Tree]

The OP did not add in the cost of Illegal Drugs coming from
Mexico which is Trillions of Dollars.

We spend $51 Billion annually just on direct intervention but the hidden cost in health care costs, poverty in the inner cities, crime & violence is much
much greater.

The wall and better monitoring of the border is cheaper than doing nothing which is all Liberals ever want to do about illegal immigration.

And for the Naysayers, the wall is already being built. Perhaps not at a dramatic pace but it is being built as we speak.

Damn ... there you go confusing the left with facts again!!

Don't you know the left can't count past 20? Well, the men can count to 21, (probably closer to 20 1/2) .... ??

 

[Siete]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The only fact is the first number and that's probably low.

All studies of migrant workers have shown a benefit to the economy, especially in Texas.

So yet another ignorant bigot post bripig.

Whether it benefits "the economy," a meangless abstractiin, isn't the issue. Whether it benefits American citizens is the issue, and clearly it doesn"t. Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

Sent from my SM-G935P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Once again supply and demand, get rid of 20 million illegals , wages would rise I would pick apples for $20 bucks an hour..


People still like apples, Apple pie, Apple whine , apple juice and who can ever ever eat pork chops with out Apple sauce?







.
.

you would be picking dingleberrys out of your crack because nobody is paying anyone $20 an hour to pick ANYTHING, and if they did you wouldn't be able to afford them.


man o man, RW's are morons.

 

[Wyatt earp]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The only fact is the first number and that's probably low.

All studies of migrant workers have shown a benefit to the economy, especially in Texas.

So yet another ignorant bigot post bripig.

Whether it benefits "the economy," a meangless abstractiin, isn't the issue. Whether it benefits American citizens is the issue, and clearly it doesn"t. Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

Sent from my SM-G935P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Once again supply and demand, get rid of 20 million illegals , wages would rise I would pick apples for $20 bucks an hour..


People still like apples, Apple pie, Apple whine , apple juice and who can ever ever eat pork chops with out Apple sauce?







.
.

you would be picking dingleberrys out of your crack because nobody is paying anyone $20 an hour to pick ANYTHING, and if they did you wouldn't be able to afford them.


man o man, RW's are morons.

Once again ashole supply and fucking demand.. Just like there was McDonald's and Walmarts paying $15~ $17 dollar starting wages up in the Dakotas a few years ago...


You ignorant fuck about economics.


.


.

 

[Wyatt earp]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The only fact is the first number and that's probably low.

All studies of migrant workers have shown a benefit to the economy, especially in Texas.

So yet another ignorant bigot post bripig.

Whether it benefits "the economy," a meangless abstractiin, isn't the issue. Whether it benefits American citizens is the issue, and clearly it doesn"t. Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

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Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Once again supply and demand, get rid of 20 million illegals , wages would rise I would pick apples for $20 bucks an hour..


People still like apples, Apple pie, Apple whine , apple juice and who can ever ever eat pork chops with out Apple sauce?







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you would be picking dingleberrys out of your crack because nobody is paying anyone $20 an hour to pick ANYTHING, and if they did you wouldn't be able to afford them.


man o man, RW's are morons.

Would lebron James still be making 4O million a year if 5,000 illegals come in to America that could play as good as him ?

Answer the question yes or No?


Would diamonds be as valuable as it is now , if soms one found a huge quarry of it the size of Alaska ?


Answer the question yes or no?

It's supply and demand get rid of 20 million illegals and wages/ benefits would go up for the poor workers ...



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[oreo]

deporting 20 million people would have crushed the economy and everyone but idiots knew that so it got checked off Shitforhairs to do list.

his "BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL" is just another pipe dream that made simpleton dick get hard, and capture votes, aka HORSESHIT.

take a look around dumbshits, none of the campaign bullshit he hooked you with will come true.

SUCKERS.

Totally agree--these people do not understand that 40% of illegals in this country own homes, they buy cars, they buy electronics--they purchase everything that we do and circulate approximately 4 trillion into our economy each and every year. Kicking them all out spells economic disaster.
Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy

Alabama went to the extreme and kicked them all out and it wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

The biggest cost of illegal immigration comes in education. They are not eligible to vote nor are they eligible for welfare benefits.

What we need is immigration reform NOW--to insure that they're paying their fair share of FICA--federal and state taxes.

 

[Siete]

The only fact is the first number and that's probably low.

All studies of migrant workers have shown a benefit to the economy, especially in Texas.

So yet another ignorant bigot post bripig.

Whether it benefits "the economy," a meangless abstractiin, isn't the issue. Whether it benefits American citizens is the issue, and clearly it doesn"t. Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

Sent from my SM-G935P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Once again supply and demand, get rid of 20 million illegals , wages would rise I would pick apples for $20 bucks an hour..


People still like apples, Apple pie, Apple whine , apple juice and who can ever ever eat pork chops with out Apple sauce?







.
.

you would be picking dingleberrys out of your crack because nobody is paying anyone $20 an hour to pick ANYTHING, and if they did you wouldn't be able to afford them.


man o man, RW's are morons.

Would lebron James still be making 4O million a year if 5,000 illegals come in to America that could play as good as him ?

Answer the question yes or No?


Would diamonds be as valuable as it is now , if soms one found a huge quarry of it the size of Alaska ?


Answer the question yes or no?

It's supply and demand get rid of 20 million illegals and wages/ benefits would go up for the poor workers ...



.

you dont get shit do you.


why does wmart pay min wage dumbass ? they have plenty of demand.


I actually saw an hour special on Florida Orange Growers. They dont pay by the hour. They pay by load, and workers have quotas. Your candy ass wouldn't last until lunch.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Whether it benefits "the economy," a meangless abstractiin, isn't the issue. Whether it benefits American citizens is the issue, and clearly it doesn"t. Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

Sent from my SM-G935P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Once again supply and demand, get rid of 20 million illegals , wages would rise I would pick apples for $20 bucks an hour..


People still like apples, Apple pie, Apple whine , apple juice and who can ever ever eat pork chops with out Apple sauce?







.
.

you would be picking dingleberrys out of your crack because nobody is paying anyone $20 an hour to pick ANYTHING, and if they did you wouldn't be able to afford them.


man o man, RW's are morons.

Would lebron James still be making 4O million a year if 5,000 illegals come in to America that could play as good as him ?

Answer the question yes or No?


Would diamonds be as valuable as it is now , if soms one found a huge quarry of it the size of Alaska ?


Answer the question yes or no?

It's supply and demand get rid of 20 million illegals and wages/ benefits would go up for the poor workers ...



.

you dont get shit do you.


why does wmart pay min wage dumbass ? they have plenty of demand.


I actually saw an hour special on Florida Orange Growers. They dont pay by the hour. They pay by load, and workers have quotas. Your candy ass wouldn't last until lunch.

You still don't want to answer my questions?



Again why did some Walmarts and McDonald's a few years ago start off workers at $15 ~ $17 bucks an hour?


I will wait for you to ignore the questions again.


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[Siete]

Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Once again supply and demand, get rid of 20 million illegals , wages would rise I would pick apples for $20 bucks an hour..


People still like apples, Apple pie, Apple whine , apple juice and who can ever ever eat pork chops with out Apple sauce?







.
.

you would be picking dingleberrys out of your crack because nobody is paying anyone $20 an hour to pick ANYTHING, and if they did you wouldn't be able to afford them.


man o man, RW's are morons.

Would lebron James still be making 4O million a year if 5,000 illegals come in to America that could play as good as him ?

Answer the question yes or No?


Would diamonds be as valuable as it is now , if soms one found a huge quarry of it the size of Alaska ?


Answer the question yes or no?

It's supply and demand get rid of 20 million illegals and wages/ benefits would go up for the poor workers ...



.

you dont get shit do you.


why does wmart pay min wage dumbass ? they have plenty of demand.


I actually saw an hour special on Florida Orange Growers. They dont pay by the hour. They pay by load, and workers have quotas. Your candy ass wouldn't last until lunch.

You still don't want to answer my questions?



Again why did some Walmarts and McDonald's a few years ago start off workers at $15 ~ $17 bucks an hour?


I will wait for you to ignore the questions again.


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fuck mickey d's, we're talking about farm workers ...


Orange growers take bids from contractors to have an orchard harvested. The work is done on a timeline. Fruits and veggies are perishable. Low bid fastest harvest time gets the contract. Contractors hire workers to finish the job for x$ in xdays and leave enough on the table for them to make a profit. Its called price control, and the price is controlled from square one with the farmer on down the line to consumers.

now, go pick dingleberrys out of your ass.

 

[danielpalos]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The only fact is the first number and that's probably low.

All studies of migrant workers have shown a benefit to the economy, especially in Texas.

So yet another ignorant bigot post bripig.

Whether it benefits "the economy," a meangless abstractiin, isn't the issue. Whether it benefits American citizens is the issue, and clearly it doesn"t. Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

Sent from my SM-G935P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

Actually it is pretty damn debatable. Many illegal immigrants take jobs that American workers literally cannot take. Meaning they work hours, wages, and in conditions that no American worker would. For the rest of them, they take low paying jobs with minimal screening (like burger flipping, construction, or housekeeping). There is actually discussion to increase wages for these jobs to working wages, which would counteract the lower pressure on wages put on by the influx of low-skilled labor. You know what the corporation's answer for that is? Automation.

The reality is that the low skilled illegal and legal migrants from Mexico / central America puts a lot of pressure on our lower skilled labor pool. However, it also benefits absolutely every American citizen in the US with decreased labor costs...which, for those types of jobs, typically make up and extremely large portion of costs for a business. Assuming that you adhere to capitalism, this actually is just the marketplace at work. Americans should take advantage of the education system that those other places simply do not have. If they fail to take advantage of the free economic opportunity they are afforded, it is pretty straight forward that they should suffer the consequences.

Once again supply and demand, get rid of 20 million illegals , wages would rise I would pick apples for $20 bucks an hour..


People still like apples, Apple pie, Apple whine , apple juice and who can ever ever eat pork chops with out Apple sauce?







.
.

Just right wing propaganda; y'all are too lazy to even come up with valid arguments, much less a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

 

[Unkotare]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The only fact is the first number and that's probably low.

All studies of migrant workers have shown a benefit to the economy, especially in Texas.

So yet another ignorant bigot post bripig.

......Every immigrant takes an American job and lowers the wages paid to the rest. That fact simply isn't debatable.

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Of course it is.

 

[bripat9643]

Damn ... there you go confusing the left with facts again!!

Don't you know the left can't count past 20? Well, the men can count to 21, (probably closer to 20 1/2) .... ??

The Comrade's wall is not going to get built.. Congress has already said NO--they're not going to fund it, and for good reason--they don't work. A great video on this--at the end of this video it will tell you how much we already wasted on walls and fences. Then it will move into another video regarding the terrain issues, and the problems with structural security.



Watch the above video through it's entirety.

They have found 240 of these in the San Diego region alone.
The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels

The only way to secure the border is with high tech motion detectors and more border patrol stations. Anything they can see--can and will always be compromised.

So you showed, what, a dozen people getting through it? How many got through before they built those walls, 600,000/year? All your stupid transparent claims about the wall not working depend on it not being watched. The effectiveness of anyone guarding the boarder without a wall will be magnified 1000 times by the wall.

Build the fucking wall, moron.

There are more Mexicans moving back to Mexico than are making illegal crossings and that's been true since jobs dried up in the Great Recession. These are facts, not that you've ever listened to facts before.

The wall will never be built.

They certainly aren't facts.