Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[P@triot]

So....much....winning

The United States will waive environmental rules so extra barriers can be built to bar illegal immigrants from crossing the border with Mexico near San Diego, the Department of Homeland Security said on Tuesday.

The projects, on about 15 miles (24 km) of the frontier extending east from the Pacific Ocean, are part of President Donald Trump's planned wall between the United States and Mexico.

Securing the borders, restoring constitutional government, preserving liberty, being fiscally responsible....hot damn it is great to be an American again!

U.S. eases environment laws for Mexico border wall near San Diego

 

[P@triot]

So...much...winning

The number of asylum seekers walking across the U.S. border into Canada rose in June... Many asylum seekers whom Reuters has spoken to said they left the United States because they feared deportation in light of President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown.

Thank you President Trump for securing our borders and running these criminals out of our country. Let them be a burden to Canada.

Flow of asylum seekers crossing into Canada from U.S. rises in June

 

[Dschrute3]

I'm in. Build that wall mutha fucka!!! Go Trump!

 

[P@triot]

Even if the left-wing lies were true and illegal aliens generated more in tax revenue to the government than they cost the government - it wouldn't matter. They broke the law. Bernie Madoff generated a shit-ton of tax revenue for the government too but the left still wanted his head on a spear. Just another example of how they contradict themselves.

• The staggering total costs of illegal immigrants and their children outweigh the taxes paid to federal and state governments by a ratio of roughly 7 to 1, with costs at nearly $135 billion compared to tax revenues at nearly $19 billion.

• The nearly $135 billion paid out by federal and state and local taxpayers to cover the cost of the presence of 12.5 million illegal aliens and their 4.2 million citizen children amounts to approximately $8,075 per illegal alien and citizen child prior to taxes paid, or $6,940 per person after taxes are paid.

• On the federal level, medical ($17.14 billion) is by far the highest cost, with law enforcement coming second ($13.15 billion) and general government services ($8 billion) third.

• At the state and local level, education ($44.4 billion) was by far the largest expense, followed by general public services ($18.5 billion) and medical ($12.1 billion).

• The top three states based on total cost to state taxpayers for illegal immigrants and their children: California ($23 billion); Texas ($10.9 billion), and New York ($7.5 billion).

The truth is - illegal aliens are an unbearable burden to the U.S. tax payer and the national debt.

How Much Is Illegal Immigration Costing You? Here Are The Numbers.

 

[JQPublic1]

The data generated by F.A.I.R is compelling. However, a cursory background review of three founders reveal ties to white supremacists and RW extremism.
Any data published by as controversial an organization as F.A.I.R. should be read and consumed with extreme caution.
Federation for American Immigration Reform

 

[Picaro]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

A huge bargain, and we know for a fact they work, as proven elsewhere in the world. The only people opposed to it are labor racketeers, drug gangs, and racists, which means all Democrats and their fellow establishment GOP hacks, the Party of violent traitors.

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

A huge bargain, and we know for a fact they work, as proven elsewhere in the world. The only people opposed to it are labor racketeers, drug gangs, and racists, which means all Democrats and their fellow establishment GOP hacks, the Party of violent traitors.

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

 

[P@triot]

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.

U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.

If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better

 

[JQPublic1]

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.

U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.

If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better

Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?

 

[Spare_change]

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.

U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.

If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better

Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?

Ahhh .... naivete' .... it is sooooo comforting.

 

[P@triot]

Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds....

(Psst...Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was just a movie)

 

[P@triot]

....as could a man using a hand glider

1. It’s not a “hand glider” it’s a hang glider.

2. A lot of hang gliders down there in Mexico, are there?

3. Hang gliders are not airplanes. They can only be used by launching off of a cliff and using the wind to GLIDE for a very short period. There are no cliffs by the border, sweetie.

4. How are Mexicans going to hang glide their infants and small children across?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.

U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.

If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better

LOL, did they try to use an anti tank weapon?

So said an anonymous U.S. official[/QUOTE]

 

[oreo]

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.

U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.

If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better

Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?

Ahhh .... naivete' .... it is sooooo comforting.

Build a 1000 mile wall and there will be a 1000 tunnels underneath it. Make it 40 feet high, and they'll bring a 41' ladder.

The only way to truly secure the border is with motion detectors (that they can't see) and more border patrol stations who can respond quickly. If they can't see it--they won't even attempt to cross.

The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels

If this wall is built it will be the biggest boondoggle and waste of taxpayer dollars ever. Trump said that Mexico would pay for it. They won't, so why should U.S. taxpayers pay for a worthless wall.

The 21.6 billion is for materials ONLY.

At the end of this video it will explain the over 250 tunnels they have found and they know there are many others they haven't found.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.

U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.

If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better

Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?

Ahhh .... naivete' .... it is sooooo comforting.

Build a 1000 mile wall and there will be a 1000 tunnels underneath it. Make it 40 feet high, and they'll bring a 41' ladder.

The only way to truly secure the border is with motion detectors (that they can't see) and more border patrol stations who can respond quickly. If they can't see it--they won't even attempt to cross.

The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels

If this wall is built it will be the biggest boondoggle and waste of taxpayer dollars ever. Trump said that Mexico would pay for it. They won't, so why should U.S. taxpayers pay for a worthless wall.

The 21.6 billion is for materials ONLY.

At the end of this video it will explain the over 250 tunnels they have found and they know there are many others they haven't found.

Thank you, don't expect a trumpanzee to be swayed by the truth / facts you've posted above - they rely on emotion and believe every word and tweet Trump expresses.

Even when he flips and flops on issues, they will agree with him on each flip and each flop. It truly is amazing, albeit an embarrassment to thinking American patriots.

 

[jon_berzerk]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

good post

 

[bripat9643]

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.

U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.

If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better

LOL, did they try to use an anti tank weapon?

So said an anonymous U.S. official

Where would some poor Mexican peasant get an anti-tank weapon? The ones I'm familiar with cost over $200,000 a pop.

 

[BULLDOG]

....as could a man using a hand glider

1. It’s not a “hand glider” it’s a hang glider.

2. A lot of hang gliders down there in Mexico, are there?

3. Hang gliders are not airplanes. They can only be used by launching off of a cliff and using the wind to GLIDE for a very short period. There are no cliffs by the border, sweetie.

4. How are Mexicans going to hang glide their infants and small children across?

Really?

 

[bripat9643]

Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.

Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.

U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.

If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better

Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?

Hot air balloons cost $15,000. The wind also has to be blowing in the right direction. Then there's also the problem that you can be seen for miles. How much do you want to bet that the border patrol will be waiting for you when you land?

A hang glider needs a spot higher than the wall to be launched from. There are no such places, moron. It also costs about $1,500, and it takes some training to fly.

Your ideas may sound good for a movie plot, but they don't work out in the real world, especially when you're talking about millions of people.

 

[bripat9643]

....as could a man using a hand glider

1. It’s not a “hand glider” it’s a hang glider.

2. A lot of hang gliders down there in Mexico, are there?

3. Hang gliders are not airplanes. They can only be used by launching off of a cliff and using the wind to GLIDE for a very short period. There are no cliffs by the border, sweetie.

4. How are Mexicans going to hang glide their infants and small children across?

Really?

Which side are those on?