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Agreed.Yes there is a sinister agenda.
That is why we need to recognize it when it is right in front of our nose and learn to recognize it at the level WE happen to inhabit.
Thinking of this as an abstraction while looking away when it is actually immediate does not confront the actual problem.
Just wait. If they believe kids can have surgery and consent to adult relationships w/o the approval of their guardians & family, why not?
What is your reason for seeking the age of consent for sex with children at 10?See post 70
I am doing no such thing! I am pointing out as I have before , the the OP contention that the UN wants to decriminalize all sex between adults and children is a lie. I do not support allowing a ten year old to consent to sex with an adult and the UN is not advocating that eitherWhat is your reason for seeking the age of consent for sex with children at 10?
Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.
That is total bullshit!! Stop lying!...bit these same adult perv Democrats argue that children as young as 5yo are old enough to decide to have / to have permanent genital mutilation surgery.
WHAT??!! Are you really that fucking stupid??!And now, again, Biden & his DOE are fighting to nornalize beastiality in schools... What's next - necrophilia?
While I do agree, folks on the right are setting up straw men to attack you, and you have never, ever stated that you support adult relationships with kids. . .I am doing no such thing! I am pointing out as I have before , the the OP contention that the UN wants to decriminalize all sex between adults and children is a lie. I do not support allowing a ten year old to consent to sex with an adult and the UN is not advocating that either
From post 70:
Breaking: AP factchecks:For over 20 years I have been warning that they were coming for the children, that children were the end game of all this sexual normalizing of sexual deviancy.
We are now there.
Having already nearly normalized children being mutilated with the lies about transgenderism it was inevitable.
A new report from the United Nations has called for all forms of drug use and sexual activity to be decriminalized globally.Written by the International Committee of Jurists (ICJ), UNAIDS and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), the report was released on International Women’s Day, with the goal of guiding “the application of international human rights law to criminal law.” Called the “8 March principles,” the report calls for offenses related to “sex, drug use, HIV, sexual and reproductive health, homelessness and poverty” to be decriminalized.The United Nations experts say that criminalizing offenses related to these issues constitute an attack on human rights.“Criminal law is among the harshest of tools at the disposal of the State to exert control over individuals… as such, it ought to be a measure of last resort however, globally, there has been a growing trend towards overcriminalization,” Ian Seiderman, Law and Policy Director at ICJ, said in the press release. “We must acknowledge that these laws not only violate human rights, but the fundamental principles of criminal law themselves.”While on the surface, it may seem relatively uncontroversial, the report calls for sex between adults and minors to be decriminalized, so long as the minors “consent”:With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.Minors, of course, cannot truly consent to sex with an adult — something these so-called experts should know. The report also calls for all criminal laws relating to sex work to be abolished, which could easily serve to aid traffickers, pimps, and abusers. In turn, this serves the abortion industry as well, which has aided traffickers and abusers by failing to report suspected abuse and returning victims to their abusers after their abortions. Decriminalizing sex work, sex crimes against minors, and abortion would only serve to doubly suit traffickers and abusers, who are known to use abortion as a means to cover up their crimes.
UN-linked report calls for decriminalization of all sexual activity, says children can consent to sex
The report calls for sexual activity to be decriminalized, even involving minors who can "consent" -- which experts should know minors cannot do.www.liveaction.org
Thank you for what appears to be some level of support. This is just a messy topic that and people who really want to protect children tend to get over the top emotional about and that is understandable. What I do not know is if my adversaries and detractors fall into that category. One possibility is that they may mean well and feel that their consternation is justified but are not able to navigate the complexities of the topic. The other possibility is that it is nothing but feigned hysteria intended to slam anything that is liberal or progressive while using children as pawns in the process....
While I do agree, folks on the right are setting up straw men to attack you, and you have never, ever stated that you support adult relationships with kids. . .
. . . when you go on to repeat this. . .
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What this means, is that the UN supports not enforcing the law, if a child is brainwashed or conditioned into believing that they can have a "consensual relationship," with an adult, or are even able to make that decision. . . .
Folks that are in their young teens, or children, do not have prefrontal cortexes which are developed enough, to have the capacity for, much less conception of, "rights." Children and teens have no rights, because they have no real capacity to understand the implications of any consequential decisions that will affect them intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, physically or financially into the future.
This is why we do not let them own guns. This is why we do not let them drive. This is why we do not let them get tattoos. This is why we do not let them enter into legal contracts. etc. etc. etc.
Any suggestion otherwise is predatory and irresponsible.
Annnnnnnd, there you go again. This is where you lose it. You agree that it, "emphasizes their capacity to make such decisions," right after you got done agreeing with me that their prefrontal cortex is not developed enough to do so. ? ? ?Please note that it says nothing about children being able to consent to sex with adults and in fact emphasizes their capacity to make such decisions and grant consent.
I suspected as much. When folks get into these heated partisan debates, they like to construct straw-men.I fully agree that it is ludicrous to think that a pre teen can give informed consent to and adult, or even to a another minor who is substantially older. Not only are their brains not sufficiently developed.....there is an inherent inequality regarding power and influence. Rational and intelligent people understand that children can are impressionable and can easily be brainwashed and that their capacity to consent is limited at best.
It states it right there, you quoted it over and over;Regarding the intent of the UN, I disagree with your contention that they are advocating ignoring the law. Rather, I believe that the intent is to encourage more rational and humane laws and a limited use of criminal prosecution. The underlying philosophy is to reverse the trend of criminalizing sexual conduct-such as homosexuality – just because it goes against the grain of religious or moral sensibilities' those protecting vulnerable populations.
I will add that I think that the language of the resolution could have, and should have, been more forceful and direct in condemning the exploitation of children by adults, but at the same time I do not believe that it condones it or suggests a blanket decriminalization of such practices. I maintain that the thread tittle is a shameless and dangerous lie
I think the poit is their LACK of capacityAnnnnnnnd, there you go again. This is where you lose it. You agree that it, "emphasizes their capacity to make such decisions," right after you got done agreeing with me that their prefrontal cortex is not developed enough to do so. ? ? ?
Well you seem to be getting a diufferent meaning from it than I amIt states it right there, you quoted it over and over;
"Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them."
While the UN claims, this means they don't want kids and teens prosecuted for violations of the law, who knows what the real agenda is.
Now you're decending into nonsensical conspiracy theories. Proposiition 21 ???I had addressed this earlier. The UN has this habit, of wanting to make all laws on the planet, the same. It is a drive toward a one world government, and an inherent disrespect toward national differences.
The article set the age for consensual sex at 10. At no point did it state that this referred to sex with a peer, nor did it say anything about sex with an adult.Annnnnnnd, there you go again. This is where you lose it. You agree that it, "emphasizes their capacity to make such decisions," right after you got done agreeing with me that their prefrontal cortex is not developed enough to do so. ? ? ?
I suspected as much. When folks get into these heated partisan debates, they like to construct straw-men.
It states it right there, you quoted it over and over;
"Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them."
While the UN claims, this means they don't want kids and teens prosecuted for violations of the law, who knows what the real agenda is.
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Daily Press Briefing by the Office of the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General | UN Press
This is an archive of https://press.un.org/en/2023/db230418.doc.htm from Thursday 27, April 2023perma.cc
I had addressed this earlier. The UN has this habit, of wanting to make all laws on the planet, the same. It is a drive toward a one world government, and an inherent disrespect toward national differences.
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Age of consent - Wikipedia
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. . . and that very fact that the language was so ambiguous? That should be the tip off, as to why this is such a hot-button issue.l
The thread title might be a lie, it might not be?
It certainly seems to me, AND TO YOU, it would have been very easy indeed for these international bureaucrats, to stop any speculation of any such thing, by, as you say by a, "more forceful and direct in condemning [of] the exploitation of children by adults."
So? That leads us to the question, since we all want solutions, and not fights, why didn't they just do that?
Yes.Well you seem to be getting a diufferent meaning from it than I am
I did not see that anywhere in the OP. I did see it in a subsequent posting.The article set the age for consensual sex at 10.
Which I pointed out, and then, since this has caused so much of a fracas, someone questioned someone from the UN. I posted the response.At no point did it state that this referred to sex with a peer, nor did it say anything about sex with an adult.
Now you're decending into nonsensical conspiracy theories. Proposiition 21 ???
I don't think he missed it at all. In previous comments, he has referred to a 3 year old child as already being a tranny.If I didn't, you can't accuse PP of supporting something he might have missed, IMO.
I did not see that anywhere in the OP. I did see it in a subsequent posting.
Adolescents Statistics - UNICEF DATA
There are 1.3 billion adolescents in the world today, more than ever before, making up 16 per cent of the world’s population. Defined by the United Nations as those between the ages of 10 and 19, adolescents experience a transition period between childhood and adulthood and with it, significant...data.unicef.org
If I didn't, you can't accuse PP of supporting something he might have missed, IMO.
Which I pointed out, and then, since this has caused so much of a fracas, someone questioned someone from the UN. I posted the response.
Listen, neither of us trusts the UN or these global institutions, and Prog. Patriot, when I got him to unequivocally denounce adults victimizing kids, and that if this policy in anyway calls for the decriminalization of this activity, he also would be disgusted. . . but. . . .
He believes we are nutty conspiracy theorists.
Did you even watch post #219? I did not bring this thread back up lightly. The Corbett Report uses sourcing, that is generally verified, from establishment, and fringe sites, collectively.
Here are the sources, I don't expect you to be reasonable at this point though.
"Story #1: Outrage Over WHO Guidance on “Sexuality for Infants”
Outrage Over WHO Guidance on "Sexuality for Infants" – The Daily Sceptic
Joycelyn Elders: Comments on abortion and masturbation
Joycelyn Elders - Wikipedia
“Children Should Have Sex Partners” – The UN Agenda to Normalize Pedophilia
“Children should have sex partners” – The UN agenda to normalize pedophilia
PDF: International Technical Guidance On Sexuality Education - An Evidence-Informed Approach
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/do...technical-guidance-on-sexuality-education.pdf
Video: TLAV – U.N. Normalizes Pedophilia?
PDF: The 8 March Principles for a Human Rights-Based Approach to Criminal Law Proscribing Conduct Associated with Sex, Reproduction, Drug Use, HIV, Homelessness and Poverty
https://www.icj.org/wp-content/uplo...ciples-FINAL-printer-version-1-MARCH-2023.pdf
UN Report Did Not Call for Decriminalizing Sex Between Adults, Minors
UN report did not call for decriminalizing sex between adults and minors
Story #2: Non-Binary Character In New Transformers Cartoon Goes Viral As People Call For "Another Brand Boycott"
Non-Binary Character In New Transformer Cartoon Goes Viral As People Call For "Another Brand Boycott" | ZeroHedge
Anheuser-Busch Stock Downgraded By HSBC Analysts Over Bud Light ‘Crisis’
https://archive.ph/nw3ZS
Who Is Linda Yaccarino, Twitter’s New CEO?
https://archive.is/1We5o
New Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino, WEF Executive Chair, Suggested Elon Limit His Tweets
New Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino is a WEF Executive Chair That Suggested Elon Musk Limit His Tweets
What is the Trans Agenda? - Questions For Corbett #082
What is the Trans Agenda? - Questions For Corbett #082 - The Corbett Report
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I already got you to agree with me via the Socratic method. I know you are not a bad person, nor are you a dummy. Logically, we agree.
You can't find a reason that these professional diplomats would not make their declarations LESS AMBIGUOUS, unless they actually did have an untoward agenda.
It was, at this point, you left the realm of reasonable discussion, and started in on illogical fallacious crap, this happens when folks are faced with cognitive dissonance.
I get it. I get it all the time.
Just one tiny step closer to Dems and their WEF masters having unhindered access to the kids of their choice. Their sick lust knows no bounds. They're soulless pedophiles who lack a conscience. Dems and their allies are sick people.For over 20 years I have been warning that they were coming for the children, that children were the end game of all this sexual normalizing of sexual deviancy.
We are now there.
Having already nearly normalized children being mutilated with the lies about transgenderism it was inevitable.
A new report from the United Nations has called for all forms of drug use and sexual activity to be decriminalized globally.Written by the International Committee of Jurists (ICJ), UNAIDS and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), the report was released on International Women’s Day, with the goal of guiding “the application of international human rights law to criminal law.” Called the “8 March principles,” the report calls for offenses related to “sex, drug use, HIV, sexual and reproductive health, homelessness and poverty” to be decriminalized.The United Nations experts say that criminalizing offenses related to these issues constitute an attack on human rights.“Criminal law is among the harshest of tools at the disposal of the State to exert control over individuals… as such, it ought to be a measure of last resort however, globally, there has been a growing trend towards overcriminalization,” Ian Seiderman, Law and Policy Director at ICJ, said in the press release. “We must acknowledge that these laws not only violate human rights, but the fundamental principles of criminal law themselves.”While on the surface, it may seem relatively uncontroversial, the report calls for sex between adults and minors to be decriminalized, so long as the minors “consent”:With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.Minors, of course, cannot truly consent to sex with an adult — something these so-called experts should know. The report also calls for all criminal laws relating to sex work to be abolished, which could easily serve to aid traffickers, pimps, and abusers. In turn, this serves the abortion industry as well, which has aided traffickers and abusers by failing to report suspected abuse and returning victims to their abusers after their abortions. Decriminalizing sex work, sex crimes against minors, and abortion would only serve to doubly suit traffickers and abusers, who are known to use abortion as a means to cover up their crimes.
UN-linked report calls for decriminalization of all sexual activity, says children can consent to sex
The report calls for sexual activity to be decriminalized, even involving minors who can "consent" -- which experts should know minors cannot do.www.liveaction.org