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Not sixteen years oldThey get charged for prostitution.
Child Sex Trafficking Victims Can Be Arrested for Prostitution
Did you know that child sex trafficking victims who are pressured into a life of sex for sale can be arrested for the prostitution-related offenses they were coerced into performing?www.nealdavislaw.com
I haven’t advocated anything. But carry on if that is all you are capable of in a discussion.I am not the one who is advocating that adolescence establishes age of consent between children and adults.
You are.
I know, I wanted coyote to tell me and then call her outThe average age for the onset of puberty ranges between 8 and 12 in girls.
Pretty telling, isn't it?
The fk you didn’t, in the response to meI haven’t advocated anything. But carry on if that is all you are capable of in a discussion.
Democrats? Huh?It may be that the UN does not intend to legalize sex between kids and adults, but it is hard to see how their proposal could be enacted without having that effect. If the UN's motives are good, they need to word their proposal more carefully.
The UN was the organization whose "peace keepers" are noted for their sexual exploitation of chidren, including for years buying sex from starving children in Haiti and paying them with cookies and juice.
AP Exclusive: UN child sex ring left victims but no arrests
U.N. peacekeepers have been accused of sexually assaulting people in countries where they were deployed _ and an Associated Press investigation suggests the crisis is much larger than was previously known.apnews.com
In March, (2017) U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres announced new measures to tackle sexual abuse and exploitation by U.N. peacekeepers and other personnel. But the proclamation had a depressingly familiar ring: More than a decade ago, the United Nations commissioned a report that promised to do much the same thing, yet most of the reforms never materialized.
For a full two years after those promises were made, the children in Haiti were passed around from soldier to soldier. And in the years since, peacekeepers have been accused of sexual abuse the world over.
The UN's response:
In response to the AP’s investigation, the U.N.’s head of field support said Wednesday the international body was aware of shortcomings in the system.
Yeah. That's what they'll say when their policies lead to predatory adults going unpunished. They'll say, "sure, there are some isolated cases in which the new guidelines are misused. But the important goal of ______________ will be accomplished by this new model of dealing with child sex."
I left the important goal blank, because I'm not sure what the important goal behind this policy is.
Democrats?
Why? Adolescence is 10-19. I doubt they are referring to the younger end.I know, I wanted coyote to tell me and then call her out
Of course you have.I haven’t advocated anything.
Link to what you claim I am advocating. Be specific.The fk you didn’t, in the response to me
LinkWhy? Adolescence is 10-19. I doubt they are referring to the younger end.
Post 127Link to what you claim I am advocating. Be specific.
There you again. It is exactly why any issues like this can not be discussed in a rational way. I don’t support any “pathway”, but that won’t matter because you will claim it (without ever supplying a link) anyway. You have well established pattern of doing this with people You dislike.Of course you have.
Intelligent people here can see what you are all about on their own. You support this pathway that opens up the ability of adults to exploit children sexually.
This is quite consistent with the established pattern of behavior you have exhibited for over ten years, now.
You supported adolescents having sex with adults, and then proceeded to establish adolescence as between 10-19.There you again. It is exactly why any issues like this can not be discussed in a rational way. I don’t support any “pathway”, but that won’t matter because you will claim it (without ever supplying a link) anyway. You have well established pattern of doing this with people You dislike.
In terms of the UN report, I pointed out some of what it actually stated. It isn’t very specific. You choose to interpret it as legalizing pedo. It is specifically about criminal law, and includes the sex trafficking of adolescents in it’s content. In decriminalizing certain “context specific” adolescent sexual activity, it could well mean that these children don’t get charged with prostitution, for example, or any other sorts of crimes in other countries. Given that the UN has taken strong stands against child marriage and trafficking, I find it hard to believe they would then come out with something legalizing pedo.
That‘s the sort of discussion we should be having but you are completely incapable of. If can’t make it about the member or call someone a pedo or pedo supporter, you have nothing to offer.
Better off ignoring you.
Back, when the Rotherham Pakistani Rape gang issue was current, a poster named frigidweirdo said that the children were not actually raped, and were indulging in consensual sex, instead. He said the men were just "tapping" these girls who were as young as 11. You agreed with this poster and defended him.
I do not treat it as consent any more than you do, but I do understand this is the only way you can communicate. I have repeatedly said children can’t consent, BUT when talking about 16-18 yr olds you are in a grey area where they can “consent” enough enough to get married or have a child or become immancipated. That isn’t my opinion, it’s the reality of laws.This U.N. bill just plays into the hands of people like you who treat horrific levels of predation (and in the case of the Pakistanis, racism,) as a matter of consent by using the fallacy that the child victims of grooming are consenting to their own rape.
I understand this is the only way you know to debate, so I will repeat what I have already said.You supported adolescents having sex with adults, and then proceeded to establish adolescence as between 10-19.
No, there is no difference between you and I in that regard, even though you badly wish it were so.The difference between you and I is that I distinguish between adolescents having sex WITH EACH OTHER and adolescents having sex with the adults who have groomed them.
You are certainly entitled to your beliefs.As far as your ignoring me, we tried that once. I fulfilled by end of the bargain, but you didn't.
You have to google the word adolescence, do you?I understand this is the only way you know to debate, so I will repeat what I have already said.
No. I did not and do not support adolescents have sex with adults. There is no statement I have made to that effect unless you distort what I have said. Adolescent is not a legal term however, it is a developmental term. I do not support MINORS having sex with adults.
No. I did not "establish" anything. I just googled "when is adolescence" based on another members question. This is the first that popped up:
No, there is no difference between you and I in that regard, even though you badly wish it were so.
If we stick to adolescents who are minors, then having sex with each other is not the same as adolescents having sex with an adult. If the adult has groomed them for sex, then it is a crime.
You are certainly entitled to your beliefs.
Its language is imperitive:Democrats? Huh?
I think this UN statement is not policy, it’s more of a position paper than anything because it lacks specifics.
What are you seeing that refers to adolescents? I only saw this using the "control f" feature:For example when it refers to adolescents it mentions ’specific contexts” but doesn’t state what they are.
The United Nations does not punish its forces who rape children and neither do the nations who sent those forces. That puts it far down on the list of organizations we should take advice from on the topic of child sex laws.I remember that peacekeeper scandal, but I don’t think there is anything nefarious in this thing. The UN has made major efforts in raising awareness of and reducing child marriage and sex trafficking.
Again, it implies sex with kids ok if the kid consents. That’s sick and illegalThere you again. It is exactly why any issues like this can not be discussed in a rational way. I don’t support any “pathway”, but that won’t matter because you will claim it (without ever supplying a link) anyway. You have well established pattern of doing this with people You dislike.
In terms of the UN report, I pointed out some of what it actually stated. It isn’t very specific. You choose to interpret it as legalizing pedo. It is specifically about criminal law, and includes the sex trafficking of adolescents in it’s content. In decriminalizing certain “context specific” adolescent sexual activity, it could well mean that these children don’t get charged with prostitution, for example, or any other sorts of crimes in other countries. Given that the UN has taken strong stands against child marriage and trafficking, I find it hard to believe they would then come out with something legalizing pedo.
That‘s the sort of discussion we should be having but you are completely incapable of. If can’t make it about the member or call someone a pedo or pedo supporter, you have nothing to offer.
Better off ignoring you.
But the language doesn’t delineate age, adult vs kid. But you accept their bill. Adolescent is not a legal term however, it is a developmental term. I do not support MINORS having sex with adults.
www.unodc.org
www.unicefusa.org
