Understanding Rebellion

[M.D. Rawlings]

5. The American Liberal, or Progressive, view, is less American than one might imagine.

The source of Progressive ideas was Germany, specifically the philosophy of Hegel, and this euro-thinking placed the ruler above the ruled: Germans have a history of accepting authoritarian rule.


a. .... a natural law tradition widely accepted by the American founders. Virtually all of the framers of the Constitution, led by Madison, believed in the existence of natural rights – that is, rights given by God rather than Government – that individuals retained during the transition from the state of nature to civil society. There was broad consensus during the founding period about which rights were natural:
they included the right to alter and abolish governments,
to worship God according to the dictates of conscience,
to speak freely,
and to pursue and obtain happiness and safety.


b. “Locke stated that since the society made the government they have the power to abolish it, whereas in Hobbe’s theory the government was all powerful and the people would dread going back to the state of nature that the leviathan will not be overthrown… Locke favoured a limited government whereas Hobbes favoured an authoritarian one. Lockes society is designed to protect property, but Lockes definition of property is not the same as everyone else’s.

Overall then, we are left with a society that is designed to prevent the abuse of power and to let people live peacefully and prosperously in an equal society. Hobbes however wanted the citizens to be restrained and have no say in the way the country was ran. Hobbes wanted there to be a dictatorship where decisions were solely in the hands of the sovereign and not the people whom lived in the democracy, so was this theory was actually liberal democracy.”
Hobbes And Locke

Hobbes would be a modern Liberal.





6. Progressivism was initially an academic phenomenon far removed from American politics. Particularly in the post–Civil War American university, professors — many of whom had obtained their graduate training in German universities, and whose thought reflected the “intoxicating effect of the undiluted Hegelian philosophy upon the American mind,” as progressive Charles Merriam once put it — articulated a critique of America that was as deep as it was wide.

It began with a conscious rejection of the natural-rights principles of the American founding and the promotion of a new understanding of freedom, history, and the state in their stead. From this foundation, the progressives then criticized virtually every aspect of our traditional way of life, recommending reforms or “social reorganization” on a sweeping scale, the primary engine of which was to be a new, “positive” role for the state.
http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=OTY0MjA1YzVjNjVkOTViMzM5M2Q5M2Y0ODk0ODc0MmM=

In my experience, most leftists trace their ideology back to Rousseau, but both Hegel and Rousseau were statists for sure as opposed to the Anglo-American tradition of classical liberalism, i.e., the natural law of inalienable rights. Hegel was a fascist in contemporary terms, Rousseau, an authoritarian collectivist.

Rousseau’s particular form of authoritarianism goes back to Platonic political theory, and together, these are the precursors of Marxism.

Wilson, a vicious, moralizing little prick of a man, one of the most destructive presidents in the history of the Republic, admired Hegelian fascism. But of course all statists are vicious, moralizing little pricks.

More information. . . .

Prufrock's Lair: The "New Math" of American History and the Unobscured Truth

Excellent job in your blog!

You write:
"In truth, human nature is utterly corrupt, an aggrieved and restive beast below the surface that when unencumbered by the restraints of civilization becomes a pitchfork-wielding Neanderthal."

That alone represents a major...perhaps THE major difference between Liberal and conservative views of folks.
For the Left, from the French Revolution's acceptance of a 'general will' which all good people will acknowledge, we see the Founders saying nay, nay....human nature must be kept in check: Federalist #51..." If men were angels, no government would be necessary...."

Yep. It's the most decisive difference, and the surest check against human nature is liberty, which for the leftist is counterintuitive. In other words, government's utility ends when it grows beyond the boundaries of restraining human nature, in terms of promoting and protecting natural human rights, and inevitably ameliorates the consequences and, therefore, rewards and encourages, the foibles of human nature. The essence of bloated government is legalized corruption and tyranny masquerading as security.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Post #60 refers to the Left's search for 'new myths,', the eco-fascist movement, and I would be remiss not to remind of Georges Sorel, in this connection.


a. Sorel....not merely a Leftist, but a theoretician of Marxism, socialism and fascism, propounded the notion of using lies and myths to advance the movement.



b. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered.
Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



c. Although he claimed himself to be a Marxian, Sorel held a deep suspicion for "armchair socialists", particularly those who mumbled about the inevitability of "progress". Instead, Sorel advocated massive general strikes and worker action -- not for the small concessions from employers those might bring, but rather as a way of continuously disrupting the capitalism industrial machine and thus eventually achieving worker control of means of production.

In his most famous work (1908), Sorel emphasized the violent and irrational motivations of social and economic conduct (echoing Pareto in many ways). His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after.
http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm



d. In his best-known work, Reflections on Violence (1908, tr. 1912), which became the basic text of syndicalism, Sorel expounded his theory of "violence" as the creative power of the proletariat that could overcome "force," the coercive economic power of the bourgeoisie. He supported belief in myths about future social developments, arguing that such belief promoted social progress. http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Georges_Sorel.aspx




Leftist Hillary Clinton makes use of Sorel's thesis in the use of lies and myths:

"On a first-lady goodwill tour of Asia in April 1995—the kind of banal trip that she now claims as part of her foreign-policy "experience"—Mrs. Clinton had been in Nepal and been briefly introduced to the late Sir Edmund Hillary, conqueror of Mount Everest. Ever ready to milk the moment, she announced that her mother had actually named her for this famous and intrepid explorer. The claim "worked" well enough to be repeated at other stops and even showed up in Bill Clinton's memoirs almost a decade later, as one more instance of the gutsy tradition that undergirds the junior senator from New York.

Clinton was born in 1947, and Sir Edmund Hillary and his partner Tenzing Norgay did not ascend Mount Everest until 1953, so the story was self-evidently untrue and eventually yielded to fact-checking.

For Sen. Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]

 

[PoliticalChic]

In my experience, most leftists trace their ideology back to Rousseau, but both Hegel and Rousseau were statists for sure as opposed to the Anglo-American tradition of classical liberalism, i.e., the natural law of inalienable rights. Hegel was a fascist in contemporary terms, Rousseau, an authoritarian collectivist.

Rousseau’s particular form of authoritarianism goes back to Platonic political theory, and together, these are the precursors of Marxism.

Wilson, a vicious, moralizing little prick of a man, one of the most destructive presidents in the history of the Republic, admired Hegelian fascism. But of course all statists are vicious, moralizing little pricks.

More information. . . .

Prufrock's Lair: The "New Math" of American History and the Unobscured Truth

Excellent job in your blog!

You write:
"In truth, human nature is utterly corrupt, an aggrieved and restive beast below the surface that when unencumbered by the restraints of civilization becomes a pitchfork-wielding Neanderthal."

That alone represents a major...perhaps THE major difference between Liberal and conservative views of folks.
For the Left, from the French Revolution's acceptance of a 'general will' which all good people will acknowledge, we see the Founders saying nay, nay....human nature must be kept in check: Federalist #51..." If men were angels, no government would be necessary...."

Yep. It's the most decisive difference, and the surest check against human nature is liberty, which for the leftist is counterintuitive. In other words, government's utility ends when it grows beyond the boundaries of restraining human nature, in terms of promoting and protecting natural human rights, and inevitably ameliorates the consequences and, therefore, rewards and encourages, the foibles of human nature. The essence of bloated government is legalized corruption and tyranny masquerading as security.

The Western urge to rebel, coming out of the French Revolution, mutated quickly into several cults of death and mayhem. No matter the particular movement, there were two key conditions in all:

1. it was based on a submission to a central authority, the total state, and

2. it was based on the idea of one, instead of many.
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” chapter two.

 

[JiggsCasey]

This thread appears as yet another desperate effort by modern cons to distance themselves from the legacy of fascism. Unfortunately, the modern con and fascism are intrisically linked, and that includes (especially) the crazy new wing of the right that has taken over libertarianism and made it their own. They love pre-emptive war; real libertarians don't.

Connotations change with time. Heck, there was once a time when the Democratic Party was mired in bigotry and separation. Now, that's generally accepted as a characteristic of the common Republican voter.

What matters is which party most resembles fascism TODAY? ... By that criteria, if Moussolini called his pet ideology the "perfect merger of the corporation and the state," which modern U.S. party salivates more for the state mandated personhood of corporations? Oops. I think we all know the answer to that question.

Reviewing Umberto Eco's main tenets of fascism, it's undoubtedly modern cons who exhibit them all
Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt

Fervent nationalism? Without a doubt
Cult of tradition? Yup
Xenophobia? OMG, yes
Pacifism as the enemy? Check
Contempt for the weak? Jeezus, just look at the food stamp debate, among countless other examples...
I'm the hero!/Sexual domination? gunz > love... "women should learn to take it," etc.
Unabashed Newspeak worship? LOL, yes... what are our Fox News marching orders today?

yeah, cons can pretend fascism is a leftist characteristic because Benito "started as a commie" and the Nazis had "national socialist" in their dogma. But they're not fooling anyone. It's a function of right wing ideology. Period. End of story.

Ever wonder why there where no HUAC hearings on FASCISTS infiltrating the United States during the McCarthy era? The reason is stunningly obvious. Many of them were the ones trotting African-American secretaries and custodial workers in front of the cameras for Red Scare humiliation. Asking big business CEOs and lawmakers about potential fascism in America? Hell, that would create a hostile working environment. We can't have that.

"Fascism didn't lose the second world war. It merely changed venues." - author unknown

Nothing identifies a government school grad more than a post like yours.



I have the feeling that you are ineducable....but, ever the optimist.....take notes on the following:


1. There is nary a difference between Nazis and communists. Both have the same provenance, and both have the same result.


a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.
(Article itself provided - The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop)


b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.


c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists." Vladimir Bukovsky.






2. History proves that FDR and Stalin were two peas in a pod, but let's add the fact that Hitler, Mussolini, and Roosevelt shared views and policies. When you learn to read, pick up a copy of "Three New Deals," Wolfgang Schivelbusch

a. The current narrative is geared toward minimizing the relationship between Roosevelt’s New Deal, and that of Mussolini and of Hitler…and that only due to the exigencies of the Second World War did it become necessary for Roosevelt to assume extreme powers identified with those of the other two regimes.

b. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

c. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

d. Mussolini wrote a book review of Roosevelt’s “Looking Forward,” in which he said “…[as] Roosevelt here calls his readers to battle, is reminiscent of the ways and means by which Fascism awakened the Italian people.” Popolo d’Italia, July 7, 1933.






3. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48



So you can see, it is the Left that attempts to run from their fascist, Nazi, communist background.
And turns out morons like you, who believe it.




Let's Review:

"This thread appears as yet another desperate effort by modern cons to distance themselves from the legacy of fascism."

First, the siblings are fascism, communism, Progressivism, Liberalism, etc.

Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, and, yes, Roosevelt, shared many beliefs.



Secondly, you have catapulted yourself way, way up into the lead as one of the most stupid poster on the board.
Bravo!




I'd like to leave you with one more thought....although it doesn't seem as though you have any place to put it.....

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010

uh huh... sure thing, fraulein .. lots of words, extrapolation, and sugar-coating ... and of course, irony.

Like I said... connotations and definitions for some labels change over time. ... the point is, no one confuses the similarities between fascism and the modern con, no matter how much painful logic and how many laughable quotes from "historians" and 80-year-old NYT articles you utilize.

You wanna get into a link war on which side, left or right, most embodies fascism? You're gonna lose, and lose badly. Just save your fingers. But pretending light is dark and up is down on your off day? Please continue. Better to keep you busy in fruitless pursuits here than out affecting the minds of young children.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This thread appears as yet another desperate effort by modern cons to distance themselves from the legacy of fascism. Unfortunately, the modern con and fascism are intrisically linked, and that includes (especially) the crazy new wing of the right that has taken over libertarianism and made it their own. They love pre-emptive war; real libertarians don't.

Connotations change with time. Heck, there was once a time when the Democratic Party was mired in bigotry and separation. Now, that's generally accepted as a characteristic of the common Republican voter.

What matters is which party most resembles fascism TODAY? ... By that criteria, if Moussolini called his pet ideology the "perfect merger of the corporation and the state," which modern U.S. party salivates more for the state mandated personhood of corporations? Oops. I think we all know the answer to that question.

Reviewing Umberto Eco's main tenets of fascism, it's undoubtedly modern cons who exhibit them all
Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt

Fervent nationalism? Without a doubt
Cult of tradition? Yup
Xenophobia? OMG, yes
Pacifism as the enemy? Check
Contempt for the weak? Jeezus, just look at the food stamp debate, among countless other examples...
I'm the hero!/Sexual domination? gunz > love... "women should learn to take it," etc.
Unabashed Newspeak worship? LOL, yes... what are our Fox News marching orders today?

yeah, cons can pretend fascism is a leftist characteristic because Benito "started as a commie" and the Nazis had "national socialist" in their dogma. But they're not fooling anyone. It's a function of right wing ideology. Period. End of story.

Ever wonder why there where no HUAC hearings on FASCISTS infiltrating the United States during the McCarthy era? The reason is stunningly obvious. Many of them were the ones trotting African-American secretaries and custodial workers in front of the cameras for Red Scare humiliation. Asking big business CEOs and lawmakers about potential fascism in America? Hell, that would create a hostile working environment. We can't have that.

"Fascism didn't lose the second world war. It merely changed venues." - author unknown

Nothing identifies a government school grad more than a post like yours.



I have the feeling that you are ineducable....but, ever the optimist.....take notes on the following:


1. There is nary a difference between Nazis and communists. Both have the same provenance, and both have the same result.


a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.
(Article itself provided - The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop)


b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.


c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists." Vladimir Bukovsky.






2. History proves that FDR and Stalin were two peas in a pod, but let's add the fact that Hitler, Mussolini, and Roosevelt shared views and policies. When you learn to read, pick up a copy of "Three New Deals," Wolfgang Schivelbusch

a. The current narrative is geared toward minimizing the relationship between Roosevelt’s New Deal, and that of Mussolini and of Hitler…and that only due to the exigencies of the Second World War did it become necessary for Roosevelt to assume extreme powers identified with those of the other two regimes.

b. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

c. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

d. Mussolini wrote a book review of Roosevelt’s “Looking Forward,” in which he said “…[as] Roosevelt here calls his readers to battle, is reminiscent of the ways and means by which Fascism awakened the Italian people.” Popolo d’Italia, July 7, 1933.






3. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48



So you can see, it is the Left that attempts to run from their fascist, Nazi, communist background.
And turns out morons like you, who believe it.




Let's Review:

"This thread appears as yet another desperate effort by modern cons to distance themselves from the legacy of fascism."

First, the siblings are fascism, communism, Progressivism, Liberalism, etc.

Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, and, yes, Roosevelt, shared many beliefs.



Secondly, you have catapulted yourself way, way up into the lead as one of the most stupid poster on the board.
Bravo!




I'd like to leave you with one more thought....although it doesn't seem as though you have any place to put it.....

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010

uh huh... sure thing, fraulein .. lots of words, extrapolation, and sugar-coating ... and of course, irony.

Like I said... connotations and definitions for some labels change over time. ... the point is, no one confuses the similarities between fascism and the modern con, no matter how much painful logic and how many laughable quotes from "historians" and 80-year-old NYT articles you utilize.

You wanna get into a link war on which side, left or right, most embodies fascism? You're gonna lose, and lose badly. Just save your fingers. But pretending light is dark and up is down on your off day? Please continue. Better to keep you busy in fruitless pursuits here than out affecting the minds of young children.

1. Bingo! You are a government school grad!


2. And another home-run for me: as I predicted, you are ineducable.

a. BTW....it's 'as I said,'...not 'like I said.'
Your grammar is as bad as your understanding of politics and of history.

OK...you can get back to your high-stress job at Dairy Queen.


Dope.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Frequently one hears that the Left in this nation, the Liberal/Progressive/Democrats would like to see America become a model of European social democracies, a cradle-to-grave welfare state.

Hard to dispute that view.

What is surprising is that so few have investigated how that view became so fixed and how it gained traction, here. This thread is designed to prove the provenance.


9. Unlike classical liberalism of our Founders, the view which saw government as a necessary evil, of simply a benign but voluntary social contract for free men to enter into willingly, the Leftist belief is one that the entire society is one organic whole.

This left no room for those who didn’t want to behave, let alone ‘evolve.’ Thus progressive reformers saw the home as the front line in the war to transform men into compliant social organs.
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism," p.87.


a. What happened to the American view, that of the Founders, who premised a nation based on based on classical liberalism: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?


b. When one looks for the provenance of the collectivist view, one need look no further than this:
“Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz,” the common good supersedes the private good.
Stephen Hicks, Ph.D. » Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz
(quoted in Meinecke 1950, p. 51); cf. the 1920 Nazi Program.

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. The legal system itself bears evidence of the European provenance of Liberal/Progressivism.



Rome had a legal system dating back to the ‘Twelve Tables,’ written in 451 BCE, based on the 6th century BCE work of Solon of Athens.....


....but European law began with the Emperor Justinian, the Codex Juris Civilis, or the Code of Justinian, 528.


Fifteen centuries later, the Codex still exerts its influence on Europe and is known as the Civil Law tradition.


The Inquisition, Renaissance, the Napoleonic Code, and the Holocaust are all, in part, an outgrowth of the lex regia:
“The will of the prince has the force of law.”( Quod principi placuit, legis haget vigorem).

Today, European law gives preeminence to legislatures, the institution that drafted the statute prevails.

In Anglo-American Common Law tradition, the institution that interprets and adjudicates the statute has the final word. Due to the absence of a jury, and the deference to whomever writes the laws, Civil Law tradition is friendlier to tyrannical regimes than the Common Law tradition. Under Justinians’ code the emperor is named nomos empsychos, “law incarnate.”
Based on "Justinian's Flea," William Rosen.

That concept, of course, obviates the American view, that we can 'rebel' and replace unjust government.

This is why Liberal Justices on our Supreme Court favor using 'foreign law' in making decisions.
Liberals are in a hurry to re-make America into Europe.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Your right to revolution is inextricably tied to your willingness to abandon the Constitution,

In that case, would we say that the democratic party has already rebelled?

and no manner of cloaking your abandonment in lofty rationalizations will change the fact that you have abandoned it.

By "you," I assume you mean Barack Obama?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually the first communistic form of government was the Spartan state in Greece..Over 3 thousand years ago...

That's what KING Leonidas said....

Sparta was a meritorious monarchy.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If we don't slash science, r&d and infrastructure to the bone we're going to rebel and rip this nation to the grown.

Real good plan...Losertrians!

Science suffers under you Bolsheviks. Instead of legitimate research and pursuit of valid goals, resources are frittered away on stale bullshit like AGW. Real science is subverted to your idiotic religion.

 

[Old Rocks]

If we don't slash science, r&d and infrastructure to the bone we're going to rebel and rip this nation to the grown.

Real good plan...Losertrians!

Science suffers under you Bolsheviks. Instead of legitimate research and pursuit of valid goals, resources are frittered away on stale bullshit like AGW. Real science is subverted to your idiotic religion.

OK, dumb fuck, why do all the Scientific Societies, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities have policy statements that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger? All you have is the flap-yap of the stupid and willfully ignorant. Here is what real scientists have discovered;

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

 

[Old Rocks]

Actually the first communistic form of government was the Spartan state in Greece..Over 3 thousand years ago...

That's what KING Leonidas said....

Sparta was a meritorious monarchy.

Especially for gay studs

 

[Old Rocks]

10. The legal system itself bears evidence of the European provenance of Liberal/Progressivism.



Rome had a legal system dating back to the ‘Twelve Tables,’ written in 451 BCE, based on the 6th century BCE work of Solon of Athens.....


....but European law began with the Emperor Justinian, the Codex Juris Civilis, or the Code of Justinian, 528.


Fifteen centuries later, the Codex still exerts its influence on Europe and is known as the Civil Law tradition.


The Inquisition, Renaissance, the Napoleonic Code, and the Holocaust are all, in part, an outgrowth of the lex regia:
“The will of the prince has the force of law.”( Quod principi placuit, legis haget vigorem).

Today, European law gives preeminence to legislatures, the institution that drafted the statute prevails.

In Anglo-American Common Law tradition, the institution that interprets and adjudicates the statute has the final word. Due to the absence of a jury, and the deference to whomever writes the laws, Civil Law tradition is friendlier to tyrannical regimes than the Common Law tradition. Under Justinians’ code the emperor is named nomos empsychos, “law incarnate.”
Based on "Justinian's Flea," William Rosen.

That concept, of course, obviates the American view, that we can 'rebel' and replace unjust government.

This is why Liberal Justices on our Supreme Court favor using 'foreign law' in making decisions.
Liberals are in a hurry to re-make America into Europe.

Now PC, we have been rebelling against ignoramouses like you ever since Jefferson. The Civil Rights Movement. The organization of labor. The right of women to vote. The rights of Native Americans.

 

[Uncensored2008]

OK, dumb fuck, why do all the Scientific Societies, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities have policy statements that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger? All you have is the flap-yap of the stupid and willfully ignorant. Here is what real scientists have discovered;

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

I realize that your religion is what you live for, sucks old cocks; but the fact that dogma overrides discovery is evidence in it's own right that your absurd faith is a cancer on legitimate research.

 

[g5000]

Where were the Teabaggers screaming for limited government and citizens' rights when Bush signed the USAPATRIOT Act?

Cheering while watching Fox News...

...while donning flag pins and "Support Our Troops" magnetic stickers and calling everyone a traitor who opposed the Iraq war.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If we don't slash science, r&d and infrastructure to the bone we're going to rebel and rip this nation to the grown.

Real good plan...Losertrians!

Science suffers under you Bolsheviks. Instead of legitimate research and pursuit of valid goals, resources are frittered away on stale bullshit like AGW. Real science is subverted to your idiotic religion.

OK, dumb fuck, why do all the Scientific Societies, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities have policy statements that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger? All you have is the flap-yap of the stupid and willfully ignorant. Here is what real scientists have discovered;

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

"....why do all the Scientific Societies, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities have policy statements that AGW is real,...."


I know that learning is way, way down on your list of 'to do's," but if you'd like to see another example of lies from the National Academy of Sciences, check this out:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/scien...-can-it-be-science-if-it-s-based-on-lies.html

 

[g5000]

BUSH: You know, not all Muslims are bad. Most of them are warm and cuddly. I'm still going to lock a shit load of them up, though.

RIGHT: You are a compassionate and understanding man.

BUSH: Oh, hi. I'm creating a Department of Fatherland Security.

RIGHT: YAY!

BUSH: I'm locking up American citizens without a writ of habeas corpus.

RIGHT: YAY! Hey, look! That politician isn't wearing a flag pin!

BUSH: Here is a new trillion dollar medical entitlement program so seniors will vote for me again. And I am not going to pay for it, either!

RIGHT: You rock!

BUSH: I'm spying on tens of millions of Americans without a warrant.

RIGHT: We understand.

BUSH: I have abused NSLs at least 3,000 times.

RIGHT: YAY! We have not had an attack on American soil since our Leader started doing these things!

BUSH: Oops. I lost some guns in Mexico.

RIGHT: That's okay. It happens. At least you are wearing a flag pin.

BUSH: Oh, darn. Ten overseas diplomatic missions have been attacked my watch and hundreds of people have been killed.

RIGHT: Well, this is a War on Terra. It is to be expected. We're not going to put any of your actions under a microscope over those attacks.

BUSH: You know, I just don't see why capturing Osama bin Laden should be a priority.

RIGHT: I know, right?

BUSH: I've been working really hard to get our debt a lot higher.

RIGHT: That's what conservatism is all about these days! There is no cost of Liberty that is too dear!




Then came January 20, 2009 and millions of faux conservatives awoke from their self-induced comas.

OBAMA: Oh, hi.

RIGHT: DICTATORMOTHERFUCKERKENYANMUSLIM!

 

[Old Rocks]

Now PC, we realize that you are little on the obtuse side, but that link was to the American Institute of Physics, the largest Scientific Society in the world.

Of course learning is down on my list of 'to do's'. That is why, at the immature age of 70, I am taking clases in Calculus, Physics, Chemistry, and Geology at a university. And the science classes you are taking are?

 

[Dot Com]

BUSH: You know, not all Muslims are bad. Most of them are warm and cuddly. I'm still going to lock a shit load of them up, though.

RIGHT: You are a compassionate and understanding man.

BUSH: Oh, hi. I'm creating a Department of Fatherland Security.

RIGHT: YAY!

BUSH: I'm locking up American citizens without a writ of habeas corpus.

RIGHT: YAY! Hey, look! That politician isn't wearing a flag pin!

BUSH: Here is a new trillion dollar medical entitlement program so seniors will vote for me again. And I am not going to pay for it, either!

RIGHT: You rock!

BUSH: I'm spying on tens of millions of Americans without a warrant.

RIGHT: We understand.

BUSH: I have abused NSLs at least 3,000 times.

RIGHT: YAY! We have not had an attack on American soil since our Leader started doing these things!

BUSH: Oops. I lost some guns in Mexico.

RIGHT: That's okay. It happens. At least you are wearing a flag pin.

BUSH: Oh, darn. Ten overseas diplomatic missions have been attacked my watch and hundreds of people have been killed.

RIGHT: Well, this is a War on Terra. It is to be expected.

BUSH: You know, I just don't see why capturing Osama bin Laden should be a priority.

RIGHT: I know, right?

BUSH: I've been working really hard to get our debt a lot higher.

RIGHT: That's what conservatism is all about these days! There is no cost of Liberty that is too dear!




Then came January 20, 2009 and millions of faux conservatives awoke from their comas.

OBAMA: Oh, hi.

RIGHT: DICTATORMOTHERFUCKERKENYANMUSLIM!

Now PC, we realize that you are little on the obtuse side, but that link was to the American Institute of Physics, the largest Scientific Society in the world.

Of course learning is down on my list of 'to do's'. That is why, at the immature age of 70, I am taking clases in Calculus, Physics, Chemistry, and Geology at a university. And the science classes you are taking are?

be nice if PoliChic could put her petty rw partisanship FOR ONE DAY and see the truth IOW's PC- stop being a rw shill!!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now PC, we realize that you are little on the obtuse side, but that link was to the American Institute of Physics, the largest Scientific Society in the world.

Of course learning is down on my list of 'to do's'. That is why, at the immature age of 70, I am taking clases in Calculus, Physics, Chemistry, and Geology at a university. And the science classes you are taking are?

If you read the link I provided, I'm not taking science courses.....I'm teaching them right here!

Bad news....you're not passing.