Univ. of Wisconsin teaches students "it's unfair to be white"

[Unkotare]

You read all this thread and think the solution is to just ignore it?

Isn't that what YOU did, Oddjob?

No, Mr 'reading challenged' Sherlock. I speak out on the matter and dont let it get me down.

I was wondering if I understood WJ clearly, which seemed to be shouting down white people that complain about being discriminated against by law.

Unlike you, I want to understand what people are trying to say. You dont even read the whole post if its more than 3 sentences.

In other words, you did NOTHING. Your "solution" was to bitch about it on the internet decades later? Wow, don't tread on you, huh? What a hero.

 

[Unkotare]

WHO THE HELL do you THINK I have to PROVE ANYTHING to?

YOU? WHO do you think you ARE?

So, you admit that you were full of shit with that little story. The truth is that you were only qualified to do "odd jobs" and that's exactly where the market put you.

The job was for a plastic extruder operator and with the five years experience I had working in machine shops as I worked my way through college I was more than qualified for the job, .

How many years experience did the people who got the job have?

 

[Unkotare]

My bet is you are an unemployed drug addict living in his Mommies basement and imagining himself king of the universe, lol.

You're as bad at betting as you are a landing a job.

 

[Unkotare]

I am saying that it was unfair because the courts forced my to-be-employer to discriminate against me because I am white by law...

You're saying that, but you can't prove it. You can't even try. You're full of shit.

I dont have to prove anything to you.

What's that? You CAN'T prove anything? Yeah, I know.

 

[Unkotare]

The average racist, though a moral cripple, is far more moral than such people as those that mock the misfortune of others or unfairness dealt to innocents...

Then why were you too much of a pussy to do anything about it? Were your supposed morals in therapy at the time, Oddjob?

Lol, you sound like one of those ambulance chasing tort lawyers.

There are many things one can 'do about it' and for most people it is a sequence of, a. dont let it get you down, b. celebrate what you still have, and c. move the fuck on and build your life no matter what gets in your way.

And that is never found in a fucking court room hoping some druggy judge will toss you some money.

I have been in several situations where I probably could have successfully sued people, but freely chose not to.

Now if someone ran me over with a car hile drunk and put me in a wheel chair the rest of my life, hell yeah, I would sue, but not for the little shit that a little more effort can over come.

In other words, you were too much of a pussy to actuallly DO anything about it. Or...

 

[JimBowie1958]

Isn't that what YOU did, Oddjob?

No, Mr 'reading challenged' Sherlock. I speak out on the matter and dont let it get me down.

I was wondering if I understood WJ clearly, which seemed to be shouting down white people that complain about being discriminated against by law.

Unlike you, I want to understand what people are trying to say. You dont even read the whole post if its more than 3 sentences.

In other words, you did NOTHING. Your "solution" was to bitch about it on the internet decades later? Wow, don't tread on you, huh? What a hero.

You call getting a job and speaking out to be 'nothing'?

lol, you are a fool.

 

[JimBowie1958]

So, you admit that you were full of shit with that little story. The truth is that you were only qualified to do "odd jobs" and that's exactly where the market put you.

The job was for a plastic extruder operator and with the five years experience I had working in machine shops as I worked my way through college I was more than qualified for the job, .

How many years experience did the people who got the job have?

They had none at all and I know for a fact as the HR secretary was outraged too and told me.

But that is fine by me; I am OK with where I am now. As the saying goes; you cant keep a good man down. I dont need AA and I dont need some two-bit sheister like you trying to provoke me into doing some legal shit.

Living well is the best revenge if one really has to have it.

 

[JimBowie1958]

My bet is you are an unemployed drug addict living in his Mommies basement and imagining himself king of the universe, lol.

You're as bad at betting as you are a landing a job.

And your first observation is as stupid as your second; I am way ahead in my black jack winning ( about $300, lol, I dont risk much at a past time. Only fools play with the mortgage payment) and I have stayed fairly regularly employed since I was 14. Had a couple of lay off periods in 2001-2002 but we got by. Put one through college and the other kid is a senior. A nice house worth far more than I owe on it and and working on very feasable retirement plans in a few more years.

And I did all of it without the help of some asshole tort lawyer.

Lol, I bet that really pisses you off, dont it??

ROFLMAO

 

[JimBowie1958]

You're saying that, but you can't prove it. You can't even try. You're full of shit.

I dont have to prove anything to you.

What's that? You CAN'T prove anything? Yeah, I know.

All this time I thought you were just plain stupid, but it seems you are also functionally illiterate, Mr Big Man.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Then why were you too much of a pussy to do anything about it? Were your supposed morals in therapy at the time, Oddjob?

Lol, you sound like one of those ambulance chasing tort lawyers.

There are many things one can 'do about it' and for most people it is a sequence of, a. dont let it get you down, b. celebrate what you still have, and c. move the fuck on and build your life no matter what gets in your way.

And that is never found in a fucking court room hoping some druggy judge will toss you some money.

I have been in several situations where I probably could have successfully sued people, but freely chose not to.

Now if someone ran me over with a car hile drunk and put me in a wheel chair the rest of my life, hell yeah, I would sue, but not for the little shit that a little more effort can over come.

In other words, you were too much of a pussy to actuallly DO anything about it. Or...

Again, only a fool like you thinks that getting a job and living a good life in spite of ill will is 'doing nothing'.

You have the morals of a crack whore.

 

[JimBowie1958]

"I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race."

So Southern Baptists and Orthodox Jews are going to agree?? AGAIN, stop stereotyping white people. Do you see how presumptuous and racist you are against white people? White liberals have helped to turn back the hands of racial progress more than any other single source in this country. When are they going to held accountable for their poisoning of race relations by encouraging black people to be paranoid and assume are white people are out to get them???

DJ, you are massacrating these libtards, lol.

Keep it up!

 

[Unkotare]

No, Mr 'reading challenged' Sherlock. I speak out on the matter and dont let it get me down.

I was wondering if I understood WJ clearly, which seemed to be shouting down white people that complain about being discriminated against by law.

Unlike you, I want to understand what people are trying to say. You dont even read the whole post if its more than 3 sentences.

In other words, you did NOTHING. Your "solution" was to bitch about it on the internet decades later? Wow, don't tread on you, huh? What a hero.

You call getting a job and speaking out to be 'nothing'?

Slinking away with your tail between your legs, and whining on some online forum years later? Yeah, I call that nothing.

 

[Unkotare]

The job was for a plastic extruder operator and with the five years experience I had working in machine shops as I worked my way through college I was more than qualified for the job, .

How many years experience did the people who got the job have?

They had none at all and I know for a fact as the HR secretary was outraged too and told me.

LOL! It sure is interesting how the 'story' is developing as you make it up...I mean, tell it.

 

[Unkotare]

My bet is you are an unemployed drug addict living in his Mommies basement and imagining himself king of the universe, lol.

You're as bad at betting as you are a landing a job.

And your first observation is as stupid as your second; I am way ahead in my black jack winning ( about $300, lol, I dont risk much at a past time. Only fools play with the mortgage payment) and I have stayed fairly regularly employed since I was 14. Had a couple of lay off periods in 2001-2002 but we got by. Put one through college and the other kid is a senior. A nice house worth far more than I owe on it and and working on very feasable retirement plans in a few more years.

And I did all of it without the help of some asshole tort lawyer.

Lol, I bet that really pisses you off, dont it??

ROFLMAO

Oh, the internet...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSvJaYxRoB4]Picard Facepalm - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Unkotare]

Lol, you sound like one of those ambulance chasing tort lawyers.

There are many things one can 'do about it' and for most people it is a sequence of, a. dont let it get you down, b. celebrate what you still have, and c. move the fuck on and build your life no matter what gets in your way.

And that is never found in a fucking court room hoping some druggy judge will toss you some money.

I have been in several situations where I probably could have successfully sued people, but freely chose not to.

Now if someone ran me over with a car hile drunk and put me in a wheel chair the rest of my life, hell yeah, I would sue, but not for the little shit that a little more effort can over come.

In other words, you were too much of a pussy to actuallly DO anything about it. Or...

Again, only a fool like you thinks that getting a job and living a good life in spite of ill will is 'doing nothing'.

You have the morals of a crack whore.

Having NO pride must be a great comfort for you.

 

[squeeze berry]

Daily effects of white privilege

I decided to try to work on myself at least by identifying some of the daily effects of white privilege in my life. I have chosen those conditions that I think in my case attach somewhat more to skin-color privilege than to class, religion, ethnic status, or geographic location, though of course all these other factors are intricately intertwined. As far as I can tell, my African American coworkers, friends, and acquaintances with whom I come into daily or frequent contact in this particular time, place and time of work cannot count on most of these conditions.

1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

11. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.

12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.

13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.

14. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

15. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.

17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.

18. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.

19. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.

20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.

22. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.

23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.

24. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race.

25. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

26. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring people of my race.

27. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

28. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.

29. I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.

30. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

31. I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.

32. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.

33. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

34. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

35. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.

36. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.

37. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.

38. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.

39. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

40. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.

41. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.

42. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.

43. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.

44. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.

45. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.

46. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.

47. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

48. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.

49. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.

50. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.

White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh

how much of this is actual legislation?

or is it more whining and persecution complex from the usual sources?

It's accurate about the topic of the thread which is white privilege.

white people still need to follow laws and meet financial obligations.

i could come up with a list in response. reply for every one and then add some. Unfortunately, I have a job and can not easily copy and paste some racist drivel.

Yes, white people are watched in stores, I have never seen a store clerk actually follow someone that is black. .

As for race and physical security, what about the black on white crime rate?

bandaids that match? How in the fuck does that make a difference?

Can white people actually walk through a black neighborhood in safety? Not in Baltimore.

racial overtones on a bad week? Hell every week there is some bad, but it only matters if you are black apparently.

It's all the race card being played once again.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

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As for race and physical security, what about the black on white crime rate?

Be careful - you can lose your job for saying that. Pat Buchanan was fired last year for pointing out in his latest book that black on white violent crime is 8 times more common than white on black.!!!

 

[ScienceRocks]

They're doing this as they know the truth....

-Whites work harder
-Whites are simply smarter

These white professors don't like it.

 

[Spoonman]

good god, have we totally lost our minds?

 

[Unkotare]

They're doing this as they know the truth....

-Whites work harder
-Whites are simply smarter

You never told us what your advanced degree is in. Go ahead, smart guy.