Univ. of Wisconsin teaches students "it's unfair to be white"

[Unkotare]

The average racist, though a moral cripple, is far more moral than such people as those that mock the misfortune of others or unfairness dealt to innocents...

Then why were you too much of a pussy to do anything about it? Were your supposed morals in therapy at the time, Oddjob?

 

[squeeze berry]

Daily effects of white privilege

I decided to try to work on myself at least by identifying some of the daily effects of white privilege in my life. I have chosen those conditions that I think in my case attach somewhat more to skin-color privilege than to class, religion, ethnic status, or geographic location, though of course all these other factors are intricately intertwined. As far as I can tell, my African American coworkers, friends, and acquaintances with whom I come into daily or frequent contact in this particular time, place and time of work cannot count on most of these conditions.

1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

11. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.

12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.

13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.

14. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

15. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.

17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.

18. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.

19. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.

20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.

22. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.

23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.

24. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race.

25. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

26. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring people of my race.

27. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

28. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.

29. I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.

30. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

31. I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.

32. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.

33. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

34. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

35. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.

36. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.

37. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.

38. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.

39. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

40. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.

41. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.

42. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.

43. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.

44. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.

45. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.

46. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.

47. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

48. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.

49. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.

50. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.

White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh

how much of this is actual legislation?

or is it more whining and persecution complex from the usual sources?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Court? Where did I say anything about court? Is that what you are, a reflexive lawsuit waiting to happen?

You (supposedly) feel you were discriminated against, but you didn't have the balls to do anything about it? That could mean one of several things...

I DID do something about it, dude, I GOT ANOTHER JOB.

 

[JimBowie1958]

In real life you would probably kiss that mans ass,

You need to keep your sick fantasies to yourself, freak.

Just calling it like I see it, and my observation is that the more rude, callous and shallow a jerk on the internet is, the more likely they are pathetic loser cowards that just cant vent their spleen anywhere else.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Reading through all the BS from both the racists and race baiters, clearly shows they are really one and the same.....that being, bigots, by the very definition of the word.

Too fuckin' funny!

Christ, it's about time they all just STFU, already.....Otherwise, nothing will ever change.

Personally, I don't hate any race, and I damn sure don't feel guilty about a god damn thing that has happened to ANY race.

Get over it, people, AND GET A FUCKING LIFE!

You read all this thread and think the solution is to just ignore it?

Isn't that what YOU did, Oddjob?

No, Mr 'reading challenged' Sherlock. I speak out on the matter and dont let it get me down.

I was wondering if I understood WJ clearly, which seemed to be shouting down white people that complain about being discriminated against by law.

Unlike you, I want to understand what people are trying to say. You dont even read the whole post if its more than 3 sentences.

 

[JimBowie1958]

WHO THE HELL do you THINK I have to PROVE ANYTHING to?

YOU? WHO do you think you ARE?

So, you admit that you were full of shit with that little story. The truth is that you were only qualified to do "odd jobs" and that's exactly where the market put you.

The job was for a plastic extruder operator and with the five years experience I had working in machine shops as I worked my way through college I was more than qualified for the job, which is why they put me in their lab instead of on the line when they were finally ble to hire me.

You really cant stand the thought of some white person complaining about getting discriminated against.

What makes it YOUR beef? Do you work in AA or are you just a fool that likes to troll?

My bet is you are an unemployed drug addict living in his Mommies basement and imagining himself king of the universe, lol.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am saying that it was unfair because the courts forced my to-be-employer to discriminate against me because I am white by law...

You're saying that, but you can't prove it. You can't even try. You're full of shit.

I dont have to prove anything to you. You just cant accept the Truth that the laws are stacked against white working class people these days, and in fact probably celebrate it out of spite.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The average racist, though a moral cripple, is far more moral than such people as those that mock the misfortune of others or unfairness dealt to innocents...

Then why were you too much of a pussy to do anything about it? Were your supposed morals in therapy at the time, Oddjob?

Lol, you sound like one of those ambulance chasing tort lawyers.

There are many things one can 'do about it' and for most people it is a sequence of, a. dont let it get you down, b. celebrate what you still have, and c. move the fuck on and build your life no matter what gets in your way.

And that is never found in a fucking court room hoping some druggy judge will toss you some money.

I have been in several situations where I probably could have successfully sued people, but freely chose not to.

Now if someone ran me over with a car hile drunk and put me in a wheel chair the rest of my life, hell yeah, I would sue, but not for the little shit that a little more effort can over come.

 

[Michelle420]

Daily effects of white privilege

I decided to try to work on myself at least by identifying some of the daily effects of white privilege in my life. I have chosen those conditions that I think in my case attach somewhat more to skin-color privilege than to class, religion, ethnic status, or geographic location, though of course all these other factors are intricately intertwined. As far as I can tell, my African American coworkers, friends, and acquaintances with whom I come into daily or frequent contact in this particular time, place and time of work cannot count on most of these conditions.

1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

11. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.

12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.

13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.

14. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

15. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.

17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.

18. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.

19. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.

20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.

22. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.

23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.

24. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race.

25. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

26. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring people of my race.

27. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

28. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.

29. I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.

30. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

31. I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.

32. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.

33. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

34. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

35. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.

36. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.

37. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.

38. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.

39. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

40. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.

41. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.

42. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.

43. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.

44. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.

45. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.

46. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.

47. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

48. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.

49. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.

50. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.

White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh

how much of this is actual legislation?

or is it more whining and persecution complex from the usual sources?

It's accurate about the topic of the thread which is white privilege.

 

[hjmick]

Haven't these idiots heard of affirmative action??? Everything is stacked AGAINST whites by edict of super-racist obozo.

Students taught: It?s unfair to be white

Feb 12, 2013

Despite the longstanding message that a person’s skin color should not matter in America, students at the University of Wisconsin – Superior are now being taught that it’s “unfair” to be white.

It’s part of a controversial effort known as the Unfair Campaign, designed to teach America’s youth that “systems and institutions are set up for us [whites]” and as such are “unfair.”

One of the main slogans for the campaign is: “It’s hard to see racism when you’re white.”

CampusReform reports the campaign was initially sponsored by the University of Minnesota – Duluth, but after an investigation conducted by CampusReform, that college dropped its partnership, and labeled the program “divisive” and “alienating.”

So Obama is responsible for affirmative action?

GOD you're a fucking idiot.

 

[Unkotare]

Court? Where did I say anything about court? Is that what you are, a reflexive lawsuit waiting to happen?

You (supposedly) feel you were discriminated against, but you didn't have the balls to do anything about it? That could mean one of several things...

I DID do something about it, dude, I GOT ANOTHER JOB.

No, you just bent over and took it (if that little story is really true to any degree).

 

[Unkotare]

In real life you would probably kiss that mans ass,

You need to keep your sick fantasies to yourself, freak.

Just calling it like I see it, and my observation is that the more rude, callous and shallow a jerk on the internet is, the more likely they are pathetic loser cowards that just cant vent their spleen anywhere else.

Does your active imagination help you cope with being walked all over in real life?

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

"People are ethnocentric and it is hard for white people to see the history of white privilege."

If it wasn't for white guilt, no one as liberal as Obama would ever have been elected...

"Whites have been privileged over blacks and still are."

Then why are blacks over-represented as executives based on IQ scores??

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

"Daily effects of white privilege"

Black femailes live longer lives than white males. How is that white privilege? White males make up the majority of those in Arlington Cemetary. Very few black females there. How is that white privilege? Black students with significantly lower test scores and achievement by any measurement are getting in ahead of whites and Asians. How is that white privilege? When a black person can't hail a cab, liberals cry foul and go on and on about racial profiling. Then these same liberals institutionalize racial profiling by assuming that white people are racist and therefore black people deserve affirmative action. How is that white privilege? It's actually just the opposite and is a good example of double standards whites have to put up with. That's not a white privilege that's a burden that people like you can't admit thus proving even further that even the concept of white privilege is a racist concept that is once again evidence not of white privilege but actually black privilege. Why can't liberals admit civil rights have mutated into nothing more than hate movement against whites, rather than something helpful to the average black person???

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

"I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time."

So why the race obsession by you? Who thinks this way that they have to be with people of their own race? Your statement presupposes that white people have some pathological need to be with white people and thus is a hateful stereotype. Why don't you and other liberals stop this massive hypocrisy by whining about stereotypes against blacks and then turning around and stereotyping whites? Your every statement is a racial profiling of whites motives and actions. Since you wouldn't stand for that when blacks try to catch a cab, why do you institutionalize this hateful stereotyping against whites? That's not white privilege, that's institutional demonization kind of like Hitler did against the Jews. When the govt openly demonizes a group of people, things don't usually end well. I can't believe liberals are this massively stupid...

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

' I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me."

Buddy, you have some kind of racial paranoia. Go get some counseling. The only mistrust I see is mine when it comes to white liberals telling me what I'm supposed to think and how evil I'm supposed to be...

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

"Affirmative action is and was an example of social justice "

Actually it's an example of social injustice meted out by white liberals who aren't interested in equality or morality, but simply assauging their white guilt...

"blacks had not integrated in the same way. A particular class of prejudice was preventing it. Something had to be done."

Psst. Over here. How about the novel concept of equality?? Why demonize a whole group of people to supposedly stop demonization of another group of people? Hitler's idea of AA was to blame jews and other supposedly less desirables. Your idea of AA is to blame white males. How does creating more injustice solve the problem? Do you suggest the fire department put out a burning building by dropping a nuclear bomb on the neighborhood?? Again, AA PRESUPPOSES discrimination by whites and white males in particular and is therefore nothing more than a hate movement. If the FBI is supposed to investigate hate movements, why aren't they investigating white liberals??

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

"I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me."

You mean like that white kid in Newton, Conn who shot a bunch of kids? Or how about the white guy in Colorado who shot up a movie theatre? Or how about Columbine? Yeah, they were real pleasant. Yeah us white people we stick together...

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

"I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race."

So Southern Baptists and Orthodox Jews are going to agree?? AGAIN, stop stereotyping white people. Do you see how presumptuous and racist you are against white people? White liberals have helped to turn back the hands of racial progress more than any other single source in this country. When are they going to held accountable for their poisoning of race relations by encouraging black people to be paranoid and assume are white people are out to get them???

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

"As a white person I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking."

So a white person who disagrees with Obama is never called a racist? Alrighty then...