University of NC won't remove Confederate statue

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... sumbody gotta stand up fer history."

Then give a kid a book to read.

Can’t. Democrats burned them all.

Is that your excuse for not ever having read a book? Pretty lame.

And it's an odd excuse at that, given that it's the right wingers who historically burn books, and considering your constant whining about all those "elitist liberal" places called universities.

 

[Pogo]

If nothing else is going to be removed, why should this statue have to go?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

A good number of statues and monuments and plaques etc have already been removed --- as in the three mentioned in my (second) video from New Orleans.

The first monument that city removed was actually removed twice ---- for most of its life the commemoration of the White League shooting its way into control of the city was marked by a prominent 35-foot-tall obelisk at the foot of Canal Street, the main thoroughfare of the city and the widest city street in the U.S. The insurrection was 1874 and the obelisk went up in 1891, and stood there for generations on the city's busiest street. An informational plaque was added in 1932 to make clear that the monument celebrated the triumph of white supremacy.

Another mayor in the 1970s, the father of the mayor in my video, appended a disclaimer sign near it which read, "Although the ‘Battle of Liberty Place’ and this monument are important parts of New Orleans history, the sentiments in favor of white supremacy expressed thereon are contrary to the philosophy and beliefs of present-day New Orleans.” After it was temporarily moved for construction on Canal Street, David Duke came along and sued the city to put it back up. It did but moved it to a less obvious location and finally voted to remove it altogether only a year ago, Mayor Landrieu commenting "we will no longer allow the Confederacy to literally be put on a pedestal in the heart of our city." -- literally 152 years after the Confederacy surrendered. It sits today in a warehouse.

It must be comforting for the OP of this thread to know David Duke's behind him. Nothing like running with "very fine people".

 

[Pogo]

If nothing else is going to be removed, why should this statue have to go?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

A good number of statues and monuments and plaques etc have already been removed --- as in the three mentioned in my (second) video from New Orleans.

The first monument that city removed was actually removed twice ---- for most of its life the commemoration of the White League shooting its way into control of the city was marked by a prominent 35-foot-tall obelisk at the foot of Canal Street, the main thoroughfare of the city and the widest city street in the U.S. The insurrection was 1874 and the obelisk went up in 1891, and stood there for generations on the city's busiest street. An informational plaque was added in 1932 to make clear that the monument celebrated the triumph of white supremacy.

Another mayor in the 1970s, the father of the mayor in my video, appended a disclaimer sign near it which read, "Although the ‘Battle of Liberty Place’ and this monument are important parts of New Orleans history, the sentiments in favor of white supremacy expressed thereon are contrary to the philosophy and beliefs of present-day New Orleans.” After it was temporarily moved for construction on Canal Street, David Duke came along and sued the city to put it back up. It did but moved it to a less obvious location and finally voted to remove it altogether only a year ago, Mayor Landrieu commenting "we will no longer allow the Confederacy to literally be put on a pedestal in the heart of our city." -- literally 152 years after the Confederacy surrendered. It sits today in a warehouse.

It must be comforting for the OP of this thread to know David Duke's behind him. Nothing like running with "very fine people".

Holly, here's a page from about a year ago that keeps something of a running list of monuments taken down coast to coast. They have 32 of them described on the page. I don't know what the total number is by now.

>> Before June 17, 2015, most Americans didn’t think much about the more than 700 Confederate monuments around the nation. And then Dylann Roof, a 21-year-old white supremacist, massacred nine black churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina. Roof’s actions, along with photos of him posing with the Confederate flag, led to a push to remove that symbol of white supremacy from public spaces across the South.

Soon, though, people began looking beyond the flag and focused their attention on statues and monuments to Confederate generals, soldiers, and battles, many of which were erected as Jim Crow flourished across the South and white leaders sought to re-cast the rebellious Confederacy as an honorable lot of freedom fighters and provide rallying points for the reascendent Ku Klux Klan. The summer of 2015 saw many debates about removing these statues, one of which led to a vote by the City Council in Charlottesville, Virginia, to remove a statue of Confederate general Robert E. Lee on horseback.

That decision led white-supremacist organizers to plan a rally in support of the statue. That rally happened last weekend. The irony of the Unite the Right protest, which saw violent clashes between neo-Nazis and counterprotesters, along with one murder, is that like the Charleston massacre, it has accelerated the removal of Confederate statues across the nation. By associating their rancid ideology with centuries-old memorials, the white supremacists have ensured that these monuments will come down. In the first five days after the rally alone, nearly ten Confederate monuments have fallen. Plenty more will follow. <<​

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... sumbody gotta stand up fer history."

Then give a kid a book to read.

Can’t. Democrats burned them all.

Is that your excuse for not ever having read a book? Pretty lame.

And it's an odd excuse at that, given that it's the right wingers who historically burn books, and considering your constant whining about all those "elitist liberal" places called universities.

I was being figurative. It’s democrats who remove names and landmarks of history by applying today’s standards. That is book-burning.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, it is not.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... sumbody gotta stand up fer history."

Then give a kid a book to read.

Can’t. Democrats burned them all.

Is that your excuse for not ever having read a book? Pretty lame.

And it's an odd excuse at that, given that it's the right wingers who historically burn books, and considering your constant whining about all those "elitist liberal" places called universities.

I was being figurative. It’s democrats who remove names and landmarks of history by applying today’s standards. That is book-burning.

Of course it isn't, what an absurd thing to say. And I am sure Germany has few statues of Hitler....boy that must really upset you! Or maybe you're just trying to eke out an overwrought point where there isn't one....

 

[rightwinger]

If nothing else is going to be removed, why should this statue have to go?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

A good number of statues and monuments and plaques etc have already been removed --- as in the three mentioned in my (second) video from New Orleans.

The first monument that city removed was actually removed twice ---- for most of its life the commemoration of the White League shooting its way into control of the city was marked by a prominent 35-foot-tall obelisk at the foot of Canal Street, the main thoroughfare of the city and the widest city street in the U.S. The insurrection was 1874 and the obelisk went up in 1891, and stood there for generations on the city's busiest street. An informational plaque was added in 1932 to make clear that the monument celebrated the triumph of white supremacy.

Another mayor in the 1970s, the father of the mayor in my video, appended a disclaimer sign near it which read, "Although the ‘Battle of Liberty Place’ and this monument are important parts of New Orleans history, the sentiments in favor of white supremacy expressed thereon are contrary to the philosophy and beliefs of present-day New Orleans.” After it was temporarily moved for construction on Canal Street, David Duke came along and sued the city to put it back up. It did but moved it to a less obvious location and finally voted to remove it altogether only a year ago, Mayor Landrieu commenting "we will no longer allow the Confederacy to literally be put on a pedestal in the heart of our city." -- literally 152 years after the Confederacy surrendered. It sits today in a warehouse.

It must be comforting for the OP of this thread to know David Duke's behind him. Nothing like running with "very fine people".

Yet another monument to racism

These monuments were erected to ensure negroes knew their place

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

These monuments were erected to ensure negroes knew their place

Correct.

 

[Preacher]

If nothing else is going to be removed, why should this statue have to go?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

A good number of statues and monuments and plaques etc have already been removed --- as in the three mentioned in my (second) video from New Orleans.

The first monument that city removed was actually removed twice ---- for most of its life the commemoration of the White League shooting its way into control of the city was marked by a prominent 35-foot-tall obelisk at the foot of Canal Street, the main thoroughfare of the city and the widest city street in the U.S. The insurrection was 1874 and the obelisk went up in 1891, and stood there for generations on the city's busiest street. An informational plaque was added in 1932 to make clear that the monument celebrated the triumph of white supremacy.

Another mayor in the 1970s, the father of the mayor in my video, appended a disclaimer sign near it which read, "Although the ‘Battle of Liberty Place’ and this monument are important parts of New Orleans history, the sentiments in favor of white supremacy expressed thereon are contrary to the philosophy and beliefs of present-day New Orleans.” After it was temporarily moved for construction on Canal Street, David Duke came along and sued the city to put it back up. It did but moved it to a less obvious location and finally voted to remove it altogether only a year ago, Mayor Landrieu commenting "we will no longer allow the Confederacy to literally be put on a pedestal in the heart of our city." -- literally 152 years after the Confederacy surrendered. It sits today in a warehouse.

It must be comforting for the OP of this thread to know David Duke's behind him. Nothing like running with "very fine people".

Yet another monument to racism

These monuments were erected to ensure negroes knew their place

Let negro's do as they please and the negro "family" now exists as no father present,crime is rampant,out of wedlock children are common place,drugs are common place,schools are jungles,once nice cities are war zones....great ideas to let them do things on their own. The negro race is not smart enough to handle its own affairs. They belong in zoos in Africa.

 

[BigTruck]

Of course the statue should be removed, but the protesters apparently need to focus their energy on the North Carolina Historical Commission.

 

[Pogo]

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... sumbody gotta stand up fer history."

Then give a kid a book to read.

Can’t. Democrats burned them all.

Is that your excuse for not ever having read a book? Pretty lame.

And it's an odd excuse at that, given that it's the right wingers who historically burn books, and considering your constant whining about all those "elitist liberal" places called universities.

I was being figurative. It’s democrats who remove names and landmarks of history by applying today’s standards. That is book-burning.

Sorry, granite propaganda transmitters are not "books".

Books are those page-y things that have what's called "facts" in them.
What's more, it ain't political parties moving your "landmarks". It's the cities and towns whose property they're occupying. And besides, Nikki Haley and the SC state house kicked it off.

 

[Pogo]

If nothing else is going to be removed, why should this statue have to go?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

A good number of statues and monuments and plaques etc have already been removed --- as in the three mentioned in my (second) video from New Orleans.

The first monument that city removed was actually removed twice ---- for most of its life the commemoration of the White League shooting its way into control of the city was marked by a prominent 35-foot-tall obelisk at the foot of Canal Street, the main thoroughfare of the city and the widest city street in the U.S. The insurrection was 1874 and the obelisk went up in 1891, and stood there for generations on the city's busiest street. An informational plaque was added in 1932 to make clear that the monument celebrated the triumph of white supremacy.

Another mayor in the 1970s, the father of the mayor in my video, appended a disclaimer sign near it which read, "Although the ‘Battle of Liberty Place’ and this monument are important parts of New Orleans history, the sentiments in favor of white supremacy expressed thereon are contrary to the philosophy and beliefs of present-day New Orleans.” After it was temporarily moved for construction on Canal Street, David Duke came along and sued the city to put it back up. It did but moved it to a less obvious location and finally voted to remove it altogether only a year ago, Mayor Landrieu commenting "we will no longer allow the Confederacy to literally be put on a pedestal in the heart of our city." -- literally 152 years after the Confederacy surrendered. It sits today in a warehouse.

It must be comforting for the OP of this thread to know David Duke's behind him. Nothing like running with "very fine people".

Yet another monument to racism

These monuments were erected to ensure negroes knew their place

Let negro's do as they please and the negro "family" now exists as no father present,crime is rampant,out of wedlock children are common place,drugs are common place,schools are jungles,once nice cities are war zones....great ideas to let them do things on their own. The negro race is not smart enough to handle its own affairs. They belong in zoos in Africa.

That's pretty much what the CSA VP said as the Civil War started. As I posted yesterday.

How'd that war work out btw? I forget.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

No, it is not.

It’s abject censorship.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... sumbody gotta stand up fer history."

Then give a kid a book to read.

Can’t. Democrats burned them all.

Is that your excuse for not ever having read a book? Pretty lame.

And it's an odd excuse at that, given that it's the right wingers who historically burn books, and considering your constant whining about all those "elitist liberal" places called universities.

I was being figurative. It’s democrats who remove names and landmarks of history by applying today’s standards. That is book-burning.

Of course it isn't, what an absurd thing to say. And I am sure Germany has few statues of Hitler....boy that must really upset you! Or maybe you're just trying to eke out an overwrought point where there isn't one....

It is abject censorship. You endorse it like a good 1930’s nazi.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No, it is not.

It’s abject censorship.

It is not censorship. What an absurd thing to say.

 

[Pogo]

No, it is not.

It’s abject censorship.

No, it's fucking public property being reclaimed by the public who own it.

Don't like it? Tough shit. You're outvoted. Console yourself with Tiki torches.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

No, it is not.

It’s abject censorship.

It is not censorship. What an absurd thing to say.

It is censorship. Pure censorship, censoring history for nefarious reasons. And you’re a dupe.

 

[Gracie]

Good...giving in to such ridiculousness only empowers the little Fascists...

They will tear it down in the dead of night, with masks on of course, and once they are done burning California to the ground, they will set the college on fire to punish them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No, it is not.

It’s abject censorship.

It is not censorship. What an absurd thing to say.

It is censorship. Pure censorship, censoring history for nefarious reasons. And you’re a dupe.

Of course, it meets no definition censorship. In fact, it is precisely the opposite, as it is a decision by the government not to endorse the display of genocidal traitors.

 

[Pogo]

Good...giving in to such ridiculousness only empowers the little Fascists...

They will tear it down in the dead of night, with masks on of course, and once they are done burning California to the ground, they will set the college on fire to punish them.

Cheeses Gracie --- looking at the new avatar .... you've aged.