Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[BWK]

Cite the constitutional provision that states that.

If he mutilated classified documents, he won't be able to run again; (b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term "office" does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

 

[BWK]

It was a joke for you gullible liberals.

I know it was. And the joke for you is, you can't afford one. That's my joke.

 

[BWK]

here is the constitution now link to the relevant section that bars a felon from serving as President.

U.S. Constitution | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of the United States Constitution and its Amendments.

constitution.congress.gov

Trump could be barred from holding office if FBI finds classified documents

The reports coming in indicate that Donald Trump had taken some classified documents with him. if any such documents are found at his home, he would be barred from holding any office for life

www.business-standard.com

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It does make a difference in whether a former President would be prosecuted …..that is the reality

However, if Trump is claiming those documents were declassified, he had better be able to provide the paperwork

It might be a political reality but it’s clearly not an issue with Justice – hence the warrant citing alleged crimes unrelated to the security level of the documents, whether they were classified or not.

Garland is a smart prosecutor and seasoned jurist – the knew the lawful search would lead into a political minefield; rendering the classified/de-classified arguments irrelevant, or at least peripheral, the AG undermines those arguments as ‘justification’ for Trump being in unlawful possession of military and defense intelligence.

 

[berg80]

President Trump declassified all the documents.

Just because the FBI calls something “classified” when logging it doesn’t make it so.

But even if Mr. Trump declassified the information before he left office, none of the three potential crimes cited by the department in seeking the warrant depend on whether a mishandled document has been deemed classified.

The warrant said the agents would be searching for material as they investigated potential violations of the Espionage Act, which outlaws the unauthorized retention of defense-related information that could harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary — a standard that was written by Congress before the creation of the modern classification system.

It also cited a federal law that makes it a crime to destroy or conceal a document to obstruct a government investigation, and another statute that bars the unlawful taking or destruction of government records or documents.

Files Seized From Trump Are Part of Espionage Act Inquiry

The materials included some marked as top secret and meant to be viewed only in secure government facilities, according to a copy of the warrant.

www.nytimes.com

 

[BWK]

here is the constitution now link to the relevant section that bars a felon from serving as President.

U.S. Constitution | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of the United States Constitution and its Amendments.

constitution.congress.gov

18 US Code 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally state...

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term "office" does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

In your tiny little bubble, you say you're a libertarian but love you some unelectable, unaccountable bureaucrats. You spend all your time here not upholding the politicians citizens have elected, but rather a legion of bureaucrats.

Stew over that.

The only one stewing is you.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Cite the constitutional provision that states that.

Pity Republicans lack the courage and integrity to simply not nominate Trump to begin with.

 

[JimH52]

If Trump is convicted or makes a plea deal to avoid jail, he would be a convicted Felon and prohibited from being President

Actually..factually he can...
Realistically he can't

Can A Felon Run For President? - The Freeman Online

Can a felon run for president? Yes, a person convicted of a felony can run for the office of President of the United States of America. The reason for.....

www.thefreemanonline.org

 

[JimH52]

Actually..factually he can...
Realistically he can't

Can A Felon Run For President? - The Freeman Online

Can a felon run for president? Yes, a person convicted of a felony can run for the office of President of the United States of America. The reason for.....

www.thefreemanonline.org

But the repubs are anything but realistic.

 

[rightwinger]

Pity Republicans lack the courage and integrity to simply not nominate Trump to begin with.

Garland is taking care of their Trump problem

While Republicans fake outrage…..they are secretly celebrating

Was it a good week for Ron DeSantis?

 

[berg80]

Trump search warrant cites statutes that carry possible multiyear prison sentences

The FBI’s search warrant targeting former President Donald Trump’s private club listed three statutes that were used to justify the seizure of boxes and documents from the property, some of them marked as top secret.

Under a heading that reads “Property to be seized,” the warrant refers to: “All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071 , or 1519.”

• 18 U.S.C. §§ 793: Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, which carries a penalty of up to 10 years in prison.
• 18 U.S.C. §§ 2071: Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally, which carries a penalty of up to three years in prison and disqualification from holding office (more on this below).
• 18 U.S.C. §§ 1519: Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy, which carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/tru...-statutes-that-call-for-prison-sentences.html

Will justice finally be served?

 

[BS Filter]

Actually not:

'As the New York Times points out, none of the statutes cited in the warrant rely on whether the records were classified or not. The search warrant signed by the Florida magistrate judge entails items "illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. § § 793, 2071, or 1519."

That first code, Section 793, and more commonly known as the Espionage Act, applies to defense information. It applies, for instance, to material illegally removed "from its proper place of custody" or that is lost, stolen or destroyed.

The next statute, Section 2071, bans concealing, removing, mutilating or destroying records filed with U.S. courts. And the final one, Section 1519, prohibits concealing, destroying or mutilating records to obstruct or influence an investigation.'

Trump says "it was all declassified" — how declassification usually works

FBI agents seized several sets of records of various classified levels from Trump's home in Florida.

www.yahoo.com

Consequently, this back-and-forth with conservatives as to whether the documents were de-classified or not is meaningless and irrelevant – Trump is still in legal jeopardy.

Is Trump in jail yet?

 

[BS Filter]

Garland is taking care of their Trump problem

While Republicans fake outrage…..they are secretly celebrating

Was it a good week for Ron DeSantis?

You guys probably just assured Trump's re-election.

 

[BS Filter]

Trump search warrant cites statutes that carry possible multiyear prison sentences

The FBI’s search warrant targeting former President Donald Trump’s private club listed three statutes that were used to justify the seizure of boxes and documents from the property, some of them marked as top secret.

Under a heading that reads “Property to be seized,” the warrant refers to: “All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071 , or 1519.”

• 18 U.S.C. §§ 793: Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, which carries a penalty of up to 10 years in prison.
• 18 U.S.C. §§ 2071: Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally, which carries a penalty of up to three years in prison and disqualification from holding office (more on this below).
• 18 U.S.C. §§ 1519: Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy, which carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/tru...-statutes-that-call-for-prison-sentences.html

Will justice finally be served?

Is Trump in jail yet?

 

[JimH52]

Trump search warrant cites statutes that carry possible multiyear prison sentences

The FBI’s search warrant targeting former President Donald Trump’s private club listed three statutes that were used to justify the seizure of boxes and documents from the property, some of them marked as top secret.

Under a heading that reads “Property to be seized,” the warrant refers to: “All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071 , or 1519.”

• 18 U.S.C. §§ 793: Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, which carries a penalty of up to 10 years in prison.
• 18 U.S.C. §§ 2071: Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally, which carries a penalty of up to three years in prison and disqualification from holding office (more on this below).
• 18 U.S.C. §§ 1519: Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy, which carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/tru...-statutes-that-call-for-prison-sentences.html

Will justice finally be served?

I hope so. The POS has been getting way with crimes for years.

 

[rightwinger]

You guys probably just assured Trump's re-election.

Will he be celebrating in Prison?

 

[citygator]

You guys probably just assured Trump's re-election.

He lost the last election to a corpse and is now a confirmed traitor so you’re saying that MAGA losers are gonna get undecided and democrats to flip over? Bwahahaha. You can’t vote harder or more cuz you are pissed. You’re outnumbered thank God.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Garland is taking care of their Trump problem

While Republicans fake outrage…..they are secretly celebrating

Was it a good week for Ron DeSantis?

And that’s what makes DeSantis so dangerous; DeSantis is as bad as Trump – indeed, worse.

DeSantis is just as wrong on the issues as Trump, as much of an illiberal, neo-fascist authoritarian as Trump, and as much an enemy of the Constitution and democracy as Trump.

But DeSantis isn’t as stupid as Trump; DeSantis has the political acumen Trump lacks – such as not being so stupid as to mishandle military and defense intelligence documents.

 

[citygator]

And that’s what makes DeSantis so dangerous; DeSantis is as bad as Trump – indeed, worse.

DeSantis is just as wrong on the issues as Trump, as much of an illiberal, neo-fascist authoritarian as Trump, and as much an enemy of the Constitution and democracy as Trump.

But DeSantis isn’t as stupid as Trump; DeSantis has the political acumen Trump lacks – such as not being so stupid as to mishandle military and defense intelligence documents.

Desantis is worse for democrats cuz he isn’t stupid and he’s worse on his positions as a true believer… Trump was just selling he didn’t believe that shit.

Desantis beat a heroine addict found in a hotel with a dead hooker. Even Biden isn’t that bad so Desantis ain’t all that.