"Until our veterans..."

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Hey look...I don't deny that PTSD is a real issue...I simply question the number of cases which are valid. Only a naive, pussified idiot wouldn't.
I know this is a sensitive subject but let's not be scared to apply a little simple logic....Liberals, grab your straight jackets and roll up in the fetal position before reading any further.

OK READY! Here goes:

Doctors, officers, firemen and EMT's watch little children die tragically for decades. (not one tour)
How many PTSD claims have originated from those professions?

Had you actually been paying attention you would know that a great many of those suffer with PTSD along with victims of rapes and all types of disasters. You really should educate yourself before talking silliness.

WOW...you must be a really smart guy...sounds like you really know your shit as it pertains to PTSD. So, smart guy...I ask again, how many PTSD claims have originated in other fields of work where traumatic happenings have been common and have happened far more often than in a tour of duty? Surely you have the answer?
One other thing....how long ago did you file your bullshit claim?

Yes, I have considerable knowledge about PTSU. It is you who are clueless. I was an Army medic in Vietnam where I was awarded a Combat Medical Badge. My Bn. received a Valorous Unit Award for actions during the Cambodia Incursion. Over a period well in excess of two decades I have been part of teams treating patients with PTSD. And have had my own disorder evaluated and treated by VA professionals.
If you should ever break down and begin to educate yourself on the subject, one of the very first thing you will learn is that there is no one set type or amount of trauma that results in PTSD. Obviously non-military persons are not going to be filing disability claims with the VA . If you are interested in such you can check with insurance companies, therapists, and private mental health facilities. But don't expect to beg the question or have someone do your research for you. And don't pretend that you have any idea how much trauma a person will be exposed to in any particular line of work over any particular time period.

WOW...you must be a really smart guy...sounds like you really know your shit as it pertains to PTSD. So, smart guy...I ask again, how many PTSD claims have originated in other fields of work where traumatic happenings have been common and have happened far more often than in a tour of duty? Surely you have the answer?
One other thing....how long ago did you file your bullshit claim?

First of all, PTSD happens in those professions. The difference is, most doctors, fire fighters and EMTs who are bothered by the trauma will find other careers. Ever try to end your enlistment early? Doesn't work quite the same way.

Second, it is not just the stress of seeing bad things. It is being in fear for your life for extended periods of time. The Fight or Flight Response is typically a rare thing for people. To have to live in that mode for days, weeks or even months is destructive to the human body.


How much combat time do you have?

Don't need "combat time" to be logical and call bullshit when I smell it. Don't let it hurt your feelings...but admit it...not every claimant who cries PTSD has PTSD. If you honestly believe otherwise you're simply being naive and or ignorant. That's the point I made earlier and I'm sticking to it....haha. Sorry to be sensible fellas!

"Sensible"? Broadcasting your ignorance at the top of your lungs is "sensible"? Really?

Well, there we have it folks...every single person who claims to have PTSD does in fact have PTSD. Get your checkbooks ready American Taxpayers. I saw someone cut off their finger once...I have PTSD.
Are you comparing your experiences to those of combat veterans?

Hell no...was that implied?
 
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Had you actually been paying attention you would know that a great many of those suffer with PTSD along with victims of rapes and all types of disasters. You really should educate yourself before talking silliness.

WOW...you must be a really smart guy...sounds like you really know your shit as it pertains to PTSD. So, smart guy...I ask again, how many PTSD claims have originated in other fields of work where traumatic happenings have been common and have happened far more often than in a tour of duty? Surely you have the answer?
One other thing....how long ago did you file your bullshit claim?

Yes, I have considerable knowledge about PTSU. It is you who are clueless. I was an Army medic in Vietnam where I was awarded a Combat Medical Badge. My Bn. received a Valorous Unit Award for actions during the Cambodia Incursion. Over a period well in excess of two decades I have been part of teams treating patients with PTSD. And have had my own disorder evaluated and treated by VA professionals.
If you should ever break down and begin to educate yourself on the subject, one of the very first thing you will learn is that there is no one set type or amount of trauma that results in PTSD. Obviously non-military persons are not going to be filing disability claims with the VA . If you are interested in such you can check with insurance companies, therapists, and private mental health facilities. But don't expect to beg the question or have someone do your research for you. And don't pretend that you have any idea how much trauma a person will be exposed to in any particular line of work over any particular time period.

First of all, PTSD happens in those professions. The difference is, most doctors, fire fighters and EMTs who are bothered by the trauma will find other careers. Ever try to end your enlistment early? Doesn't work quite the same way.

Second, it is not just the stress of seeing bad things. It is being in fear for your life for extended periods of time. The Fight or Flight Response is typically a rare thing for people. To have to live in that mode for days, weeks or even months is destructive to the human body.


How much combat time do you have?

Don't need "combat time" to be logical and call bullshit when I smell it. Don't let it hurt your feelings...but admit it...not every claimant who cries PTSD has PTSD. If you honestly believe otherwise you're simply being naive and or ignorant. That's the point I made earlier and I'm sticking to it....haha. Sorry to be sensible fellas!

"Sensible"? Broadcasting your ignorance at the top of your lungs is "sensible"? Really?

Well, there we have it folks...every single person who claims to have PTSD does in fact have PTSD. Get your checkbooks ready American Taxpayers. I saw someone cut off their finger once...I have PTSD.
Are you comparing your experiences to those of combat veterans?

Hell no...was that implied?
Yes. You said you qualified for PTSD from watching someone cut off their finger
 
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WOW...you must be a really smart guy...sounds like you really know your shit as it pertains to PTSD. So, smart guy...I ask again, how many PTSD claims have originated in other fields of work where traumatic happenings have been common and have happened far more often than in a tour of duty? Surely you have the answer?
One other thing....how long ago did you file your bullshit claim?

Yes, I have considerable knowledge about PTSU. It is you who are clueless. I was an Army medic in Vietnam where I was awarded a Combat Medical Badge. My Bn. received a Valorous Unit Award for actions during the Cambodia Incursion. Over a period well in excess of two decades I have been part of teams treating patients with PTSD. And have had my own disorder evaluated and treated by VA professionals.
If you should ever break down and begin to educate yourself on the subject, one of the very first thing you will learn is that there is no one set type or amount of trauma that results in PTSD. Obviously non-military persons are not going to be filing disability claims with the VA . If you are interested in such you can check with insurance companies, therapists, and private mental health facilities. But don't expect to beg the question or have someone do your research for you. And don't pretend that you have any idea how much trauma a person will be exposed to in any particular line of work over any particular time period.

Don't need "combat time" to be logical and call bullshit when I smell it. Don't let it hurt your feelings...but admit it...not every claimant who cries PTSD has PTSD. If you honestly believe otherwise you're simply being naive and or ignorant. That's the point I made earlier and I'm sticking to it....haha. Sorry to be sensible fellas!

"Sensible"? Broadcasting your ignorance at the top of your lungs is "sensible"? Really?

Well, there we have it folks...every single person who claims to have PTSD does in fact have PTSD. Get your checkbooks ready American Taxpayers. I saw someone cut off their finger once...I have PTSD.
Are you comparing your experiences to those of combat veterans?

Hell no...was that implied?
Yes. You said you qualified for PTSD from watching someone cut off their finger

Are you 11 years old?
Did you really miss my point or are you doing that thing that Liberals do...acting stupid?
 
A Sex change is elective surgery that has fuck all to do with service to ones country and should never be paid for by the VA. There will always be a Soldier, Marine, Airmen or Seaman that needs care because of a real service connected disability.

We pay considerably more, to the tune of millions, for Viagra. Just stop already with the "cost of transgendered" active duty, retirees and veterans.
You do realize that ED can be caused by PTSD right ?
 
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Yes, I have considerable knowledge about PTSU. It is you who are clueless. I was an Army medic in Vietnam where I was awarded a Combat Medical Badge. My Bn. received a Valorous Unit Award for actions during the Cambodia Incursion. Over a period well in excess of two decades I have been part of teams treating patients with PTSD. And have had my own disorder evaluated and treated by VA professionals.
If you should ever break down and begin to educate yourself on the subject, one of the very first thing you will learn is that there is no one set type or amount of trauma that results in PTSD. Obviously non-military persons are not going to be filing disability claims with the VA . If you are interested in such you can check with insurance companies, therapists, and private mental health facilities. But don't expect to beg the question or have someone do your research for you. And don't pretend that you have any idea how much trauma a person will be exposed to in any particular line of work over any particular time period.

"Sensible"? Broadcasting your ignorance at the top of your lungs is "sensible"? Really?

Well, there we have it folks...every single person who claims to have PTSD does in fact have PTSD. Get your checkbooks ready American Taxpayers. I saw someone cut off their finger once...I have PTSD.
Are you comparing your experiences to those of combat veterans?

Hell no...was that implied?
Yes. You said you qualified for PTSD from watching someone cut off their finger

Are you 11 years old?
Did you really miss my point or are you doing that thing that Liberals do...acting stupid?
I got your point. I am trying to get you to articulate it. Don't think you can without :dig:
 
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Well, there we have it folks...every single person who claims to have PTSD does in fact have PTSD. Get your checkbooks ready American Taxpayers. I saw someone cut off their finger once...I have PTSD.
Are you comparing your experiences to those of combat veterans?

Hell no...was that implied?
Yes. You said you qualified for PTSD from watching someone cut off their finger

Are you 11 years old?
Did you really miss my point or are you doing that thing that Liberals do...acting stupid?
I got your point. I am trying to get you to articulate it. Don't think you can without :dig:

My point has always been so fucking simple...what's to articulate?
Read my fucking lips...not everybody who cries PTSD has PTSD....simple shit. Do you get it? Apparently none of your nut-job buddies could.
 
"tuff minded"?? WTF? So you think if our boys who went to serve were just tougher they wouldn't have any mental problems from combat??

And you know this how? You ever watch a buddy die screaming? I guess if you are tough enough that won't bother you. You ever watch children dying in a war zone? I guess being tough helps you forget that, huh?

Hey look...I don't deny that PTSD is a real issue...I simply question the number of cases which are valid. Only a naive, pussified idiot wouldn't.
I know this is a sensitive subject but let's not be scared to apply a little simple logic....Liberals, grab your straight jackets and roll up in the fetal position before reading any further.

OK READY! Here goes:

Doctors, officers, firemen and EMT's watch little children die tragically for decades. (not one tour)
How many PTSD claims have originated from those professions?

Had you actually been paying attention you would know that a great many of those suffer with PTSD along with victims of rapes and all types of disasters. You really should educate yourself before talking silliness.

WOW...you must be a really smart guy...sounds like you really know your shit as it pertains to PTSD. So, smart guy...I ask again, how many PTSD claims have originated in other fields of work where traumatic happenings have been common and have happened far more often than in a tour of duty? Surely you have the answer?
One other thing....how long ago did you file your bullshit claim?

First of all, PTSD happens in those professions. The difference is, most doctors, fire fighters and EMTs who are bothered by the trauma will find other careers. Ever try to end your enlistment early? Doesn't work quite the same way.

Second, it is not just the stress of seeing bad things. It is being in fear for your life for extended periods of time. The Fight or Flight Response is typically a rare thing for people. To have to live in that mode for days, weeks or even months is destructive to the human body.


How much combat time do you have?

Don't need "combat time" to be logical and call bullshit when I smell it. Don't let it hurt your feelings...but admit it...not every claimant who cries PTSD has PTSD. If you honestly believe otherwise you're simply being naive and or ignorant. That's the point I made earlier and I'm sticking to it....haha. Sorry to be sensible fellas!

You are welcome to your opinion.

But any veteran who served in a war zone should be given the benefit of the doubt.

If you doubt that, ask a veteran who served in the war zone if he thinks you can imagine what it is like. He will likely laugh at you.
 
If "PTSD" wasn't so popular with leftists, we wouldn't see much of it. Guys who get out have a sure-fire way of getting attention and the leftists get to shit on our Armed Forces. They can say we "baby killers" who came home will eventually "go postal" if not fawned over and given special favor. It's all part of the social-engineering they want to put the Pentagon through and it's all horseshit.

The WW2 boys went for the DUration, driving the Hun out of Europe and the Nips out of the Pacific. They came home and built a country and an economy unparalleled in history. And they did it by keeping their memories of the carnage locked away from their new reality. We who served in the RVN didn't come home to the parades and gratitude our dads did. Luckily we in turn outdid our dads through the wealth generating Reagan years. And we saw to it that the young ME combat Vets got the honor and respect we never got.

In a combat theatre, you don't dwell on the savagery...you count your shots, make your shots count, and move up like you were trained to do. At night, you stay away from the weed and the booze and you get your sleep so you ain't slow to react the next day. Many of those who didn't have their name on that fucking black wall. And when it's over and the Freedom Bird is high enough not to get hit by a SAM, you look out your window and leave what you did and saw there....there.
 
"tuff minded"?? WTF? So you think if our boys who went to serve were just tougher they wouldn't have any mental problems from combat??

And you know this how? You ever watch a buddy die screaming? I guess if you are tough enough that won't bother you. You ever watch children dying in a war zone? I guess being tough helps you forget that, huh?

Hey look...I don't deny that PTSD is a real issue...I simply question the number of cases which are valid. Only a naive, pussified idiot wouldn't.
I know this is a sensitive subject but let's not be scared to apply a little simple logic....Liberals, grab your straight jackets and roll up in the fetal position before reading any further.

OK READY! Here goes:

Doctors, officers, firemen and EMT's watch little children die tragically for decades. (not one tour)
How many PTSD claims have originated from those professions?

Had you actually been paying attention you would know that a great many of those suffer with PTSD along with victims of rapes and all types of disasters. You really should educate yourself before talking silliness.

WOW...you must be a really smart guy...sounds like you really know your shit as it pertains to PTSD. So, smart guy...I ask again, how many PTSD claims have originated in other fields of work where traumatic happenings have been common and have happened far more often than in a tour of duty? Surely you have the answer?
One other thing....how long ago did you file your bullshit claim?

Yes, I have considerable knowledge about PTSU. It is you who are clueless. I was an Army medic in Vietnam where I was awarded a Combat Medical Badge. My Bn. received a Valorous Unit Award for actions during the Cambodia Incursion. Over a period well in excess of two decades I have been part of teams treating patients with PTSD. And have had my own disorder evaluated and treated by VA professionals.
If you should ever break down and begin to educate yourself on the subject, one of the very first thing you will learn is that there is no one set type or amount of trauma that results in PTSD. Obviously non-military persons are not going to be filing disability claims with the VA . If you are interested in such you can check with insurance companies, therapists, and private mental health facilities. But don't expect to beg the question or have someone do your research for you. And don't pretend that you have any idea how much trauma a person will be exposed to in any particular line of work over any particular time period.

Had you actually been paying attention you would know that a great many of those suffer with PTSD along with victims of rapes and all types of disasters. You really should educate yourself before talking silliness.

WOW...you must be a really smart guy...sounds like you really know your shit as it pertains to PTSD. So, smart guy...I ask again, how many PTSD claims have originated in other fields of work where traumatic happenings have been common and have happened far more often than in a tour of duty? Surely you have the answer?
One other thing....how long ago did you file your bullshit claim?

First of all, PTSD happens in those professions. The difference is, most doctors, fire fighters and EMTs who are bothered by the trauma will find other careers. Ever try to end your enlistment early? Doesn't work quite the same way.

Second, it is not just the stress of seeing bad things. It is being in fear for your life for extended periods of time. The Fight or Flight Response is typically a rare thing for people. To have to live in that mode for days, weeks or even months is destructive to the human body.


How much combat time do you have?

Don't need "combat time" to be logical and call bullshit when I smell it. Don't let it hurt your feelings...but admit it...not every claimant who cries PTSD has PTSD. If you honestly believe otherwise you're simply being naive and or ignorant. That's the point I made earlier and I'm sticking to it....haha. Sorry to be sensible fellas!

"Sensible"? Broadcasting your ignorance at the top of your lungs is "sensible"? Really?

Well, there we have it folks...every single person who claims to have PTSD does in fact have PTSD. Get your checkbooks ready American Taxpayers. I saw someone cut off their finger once...I have PTSD.

Did anyone here say there are never any false claims of PTSD? No? Then don't be daft.
 
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Are you comparing your experiences to those of combat veterans?

Hell no...was that implied?
Yes. You said you qualified for PTSD from watching someone cut off their finger

Are you 11 years old?
Did you really miss my point or are you doing that thing that Liberals do...acting stupid?
I got your point. I am trying to get you to articulate it. Don't think you can without :dig:

My point has always been so fucking simple...what's to articulate?
Read my fucking lips...not everybody who cries PTSD has PTSD....simple shit. Do you get it? Apparently none of your nut-job buddies could.
So, you are suggesting that vets who claim to have PTSD from experiences in Afghanistan, Iraq and other combat zones are crying and some of them are faking their PTSD symptoms.
:dig:Dig some more dunce
 
If "PTSD" wasn't so popular with leftists, we wouldn't see much of it. Guys who get out have a sure-fire way of getting attention and the leftists get to shit on our Armed Forces. They can say we "baby killers" who came home will eventually "go postal" if not fawned over and given special favor. It's all part of the social-engineering they want to put the Pentagon through and it's all horseshit.

The WW2 boys went for the DUration, driving the Hun out of Europe and the Nips out of the Pacific. They came home and built a country and an economy unparalleled in history. And they did it by keeping their memories of the carnage locked away from their new reality. We who served in the RVN didn't come home to the parades and gratitude our dads did. Luckily we in turn outdid our dads through the wealth generating Reagan years. And we saw to it that the young ME combat Vets got the honor and respect we never got.

In a combat theatre, you don't dwell on the savagery...you count your shots, make your shots count, and move up like you were trained to do. At night, you stay away from the weed and the booze and you get your sleep so you ain't slow to react the next day. Many of those who didn't have their name on that fucking black wall. And when it's over and the Freedom Bird is high enough not to get hit by a SAM, you look out your window and leave what you did and saw there....there.

So we should go back to the WWII method of dealing with it? Of course, it wasn't called PTSD then. And there was little or no treatment.

So, if I understand you correctly, your answer for veterans is to "not think about it"?
 
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Are you comparing your experiences to those of combat veterans?

Hell no...was that implied?
Yes. You said you qualified for PTSD from watching someone cut off their finger

Are you 11 years old?
Did you really miss my point or are you doing that thing that Liberals do...acting stupid?
I got your point. I am trying to get you to articulate it. Don't think you can without :dig:

My point has always been so fucking simple...what's to articulate?
Read my fucking lips...not everybody who cries PTSD has PTSD....simple shit. Do you get it? Apparently none of your nut-job buddies could.

There problem continues to be that you still haven't caught on to the fact that nobody is claiming otherwise.

" .not everybody who cries PTSD has PTSD....simple shit"

No shit, Sherlock but simply crying PTSD does not get anybody anything. First he must convince a VA psychiatrist that he does in fact have PTSD, then he must document proof that-during the course of his/her duties he/she was exposed to one or more events that a reasonable person would consider traumatic. This process can take years. Much easier to claim whiplash from a car crash and bilk money from an insurance company.
For my part it is nutjobs like you who make taking tax money satisfying. I more than earned it.


 
Hell no...was that implied?
Yes. You said you qualified for PTSD from watching someone cut off their finger

Are you 11 years old?
Did you really miss my point or are you doing that thing that Liberals do...acting stupid?
I got your point. I am trying to get you to articulate it. Don't think you can without :dig:

My point has always been so fucking simple...what's to articulate?
Read my fucking lips...not everybody who cries PTSD has PTSD....simple shit. Do you get it? Apparently none of your nut-job buddies could.

There problem continues to be that you still haven't caught on to the fact that nobody is claiming otherwise.

" .not everybody who cries PTSD has PTSD....simple shit"

No shit, Sherlock but simply crying PTSD does not get anybody anything. First he must convince a VA psychiatrist that he does in fact have PTSD, then he must document proof that-during the course of his/her duties he/she was exposed to one or more events that a reasonable person would consider traumatic. This process can take years. Much easier to claim whiplash from a car crash and bilk money from an insurance company.
For my part it is nutjobs like you who make taking tax money satisfying. I more than earned it.

All I hear is Mumbo-jumbo and that you take great pride in stealing from hard working REAL Americans. AWESOME...typical Liberal.
 
If "PTSD" wasn't so popular with leftists, we wouldn't see much of it. Guys who get out have a sure-fire way of getting attention and the leftists get to shit on our Armed Forces. They can say we "baby killers" who came home will eventually "go postal" if not fawned over and given special favor. It's all part of the social-engineering they want to put the Pentagon through and it's all horseshit.

The WW2 boys went for the DUration, driving the Hun out of Europe and the Nips out of the Pacific. They came home and built a country and an economy unparalleled in history. And they did it by keeping their memories of the carnage locked away from their new reality. We who served in the RVN didn't come home to the parades and gratitude our dads did. Luckily we in turn outdid our dads through the wealth generating Reagan years. And we saw to it that the young ME combat Vets got the honor and respect we never got.

In a combat theatre, you don't dwell on the savagery...you count your shots, make your shots count, and move up like you were trained to do. At night, you stay away from the weed and the booze and you get your sleep so you ain't slow to react the next day. Many of those who didn't have their name on that fucking black wall. And when it's over and the Freedom Bird is high enough not to get hit by a SAM, you look out your window and leave what you did and saw there....there.

Sorry to say but you are simply talking shit. At least as many troops in the RSVN came down with PTSD as any other conflict.
 
Yes. You said you qualified for PTSD from watching someone cut off their finger

Are you 11 years old?
Did you really miss my point or are you doing that thing that Liberals do...acting stupid?
I got your point. I am trying to get you to articulate it. Don't think you can without :dig:

My point has always been so fucking simple...what's to articulate?
Read my fucking lips...not everybody who cries PTSD has PTSD....simple shit. Do you get it? Apparently none of your nut-job buddies could.

There problem continues to be that you still haven't caught on to the fact that nobody is claiming otherwise.

" .not everybody who cries PTSD has PTSD....simple shit"

No shit, Sherlock but simply crying PTSD does not get anybody anything. First he must convince a VA psychiatrist that he does in fact have PTSD, then he must document proof that-during the course of his/her duties he/she was exposed to one or more events that a reasonable person would consider traumatic. This process can take years. Much easier to claim whiplash from a car crash and bilk money from an insurance company.
For my part it is nutjobs like you who make taking tax money satisfying. I more than earned it.

All I hear is Mumbo-jumbo and that you take great pride in stealing from hard working REAL Americans. AWESOME...typical Liberal.

A symptom of a non-functioning brain. I'm probably far more conservative than you and for sure more of a real American.
I've more than earned what I have.

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If "PTSD" wasn't so popular with leftists, we wouldn't see much of it. Guys who get out have a sure-fire way of getting attention and the leftists get to shit on our Armed Forces. They can say we "baby killers" who came home will eventually "go postal" if not fawned over and given special favor. It's all part of the social-engineering they want to put the Pentagon through and it's all horseshit.

The WW2 boys went for the DUration, driving the Hun out of Europe and the Nips out of the Pacific. They came home and built a country and an economy unparalleled in history. And they did it by keeping their memories of the carnage locked away from their new reality. We who served in the RVN didn't come home to the parades and gratitude our dads did. Luckily we in turn outdid our dads through the wealth generating Reagan years. And we saw to it that the young ME combat Vets got the honor and respect we never got.

In a combat theatre, you don't dwell on the savagery...you count your shots, make your shots count, and move up like you were trained to do. At night, you stay away from the weed and the booze and you get your sleep so you ain't slow to react the next day. Many of those who didn't have their name on that fucking black wall. And when it's over and the Freedom Bird is high enough not to get hit by a SAM, you look out your window and leave what you did and saw there....there.

Sorry to say but you are simply talking shit. At least as many troops in the RSVN came down with PTSD as any other conflict.

I have a number of close friends who've completed many tours in combat zones...what they say about you will break your spirit.
"Lots of pussies who had no business joining the military did so and those are the ones with legitimate PTSD."
How does that sit with you tough guy?
 
If "PTSD" wasn't so popular with leftists, we wouldn't see much of it. Guys who get out have a sure-fire way of getting attention and the leftists get to shit on our Armed Forces. They can say we "baby killers" who came home will eventually "go postal" if not fawned over and given special favor. It's all part of the social-engineering they want to put the Pentagon through and it's all horseshit.

The WW2 boys went for the DUration, driving the Hun out of Europe and the Nips out of the Pacific. They came home and built a country and an economy unparalleled in history. And they did it by keeping their memories of the carnage locked away from their new reality. We who served in the RVN didn't come home to the parades and gratitude our dads did. Luckily we in turn outdid our dads through the wealth generating Reagan years. And we saw to it that the young ME combat Vets got the honor and respect we never got.

In a combat theatre, you don't dwell on the savagery...you count your shots, make your shots count, and move up like you were trained to do. At night, you stay away from the weed and the booze and you get your sleep so you ain't slow to react the next day. Many of those who didn't have their name on that fucking black wall. And when it's over and the Freedom Bird is high enough not to get hit by a SAM, you look out your window and leave what you did and saw there....there.

Sorry to say but you are simply talking shit. At least as many troops in the RSVN came down with PTSD as any other conflict.

I have a number of close friends who've completed many tours in combat zones...what they say about you will break your spirit.
"Lots of pussies who had no business joining the military did so and those are the ones with legitimate PTSD."
How does that sit with you tough guy?

I think, for someone who has never seen combat, you certainly like to talk shit about those who have.

I'm actually hoping you are a troll. It would be a pity for someone to be both as much of an asshole as you AND be this ignorant.

Oh, and that "Mumbo-Jumbo" you are talking about? That is called science based medical training.
 
If "PTSD" wasn't so popular with leftists, we wouldn't see much of it. Guys who get out have a sure-fire way of getting attention and the leftists get to shit on our Armed Forces. They can say we "baby killers" who came home will eventually "go postal" if not fawned over and given special favor. It's all part of the social-engineering they want to put the Pentagon through and it's all horseshit.

The WW2 boys went for the DUration, driving the Hun out of Europe and the Nips out of the Pacific. They came home and built a country and an economy unparalleled in history. And they did it by keeping their memories of the carnage locked away from their new reality. We who served in the RVN didn't come home to the parades and gratitude our dads did. Luckily we in turn outdid our dads through the wealth generating Reagan years. And we saw to it that the young ME combat Vets got the honor and respect we never got.

In a combat theatre, you don't dwell on the savagery...you count your shots, make your shots count, and move up like you were trained to do. At night, you stay away from the weed and the booze and you get your sleep so you ain't slow to react the next day. Many of those who didn't have their name on that fucking black wall. And when it's over and the Freedom Bird is high enough not to get hit by a SAM, you look out your window and leave what you did and saw there....there.

Sorry to say but you are simply talking shit. At least as many troops in the RSVN came down with PTSD as any other conflict.

I have a number of close friends who've completed many tours in combat zones...what they say about you will break your spirit.
"Lots of pussies who had no business joining the military did so and those are the ones with legitimate PTSD."
How does that sit with you tough guy?

I was drafted dumbass. And I seriously doubt you have friends much less any that actually served anywhere or had the slightest idea what they were talking about. Rumors? Really?
 
If "PTSD" wasn't so popular with leftists, we wouldn't see much of it. Guys who get out have a sure-fire way of getting attention and the leftists get to shit on our Armed Forces. They can say we "baby killers" who came home will eventually "go postal" if not fawned over and given special favor. It's all part of the social-engineering they want to put the Pentagon through and it's all horseshit.

The WW2 boys went for the DUration, driving the Hun out of Europe and the Nips out of the Pacific. They came home and built a country and an economy unparalleled in history. And they did it by keeping their memories of the carnage locked away from their new reality. We who served in the RVN didn't come home to the parades and gratitude our dads did. Luckily we in turn outdid our dads through the wealth generating Reagan years. And we saw to it that the young ME combat Vets got the honor and respect we never got.

In a combat theatre, you don't dwell on the savagery...you count your shots, make your shots count, and move up like you were trained to do. At night, you stay away from the weed and the booze and you get your sleep so you ain't slow to react the next day. Many of those who didn't have their name on that fucking black wall. And when it's over and the Freedom Bird is high enough not to get hit by a SAM, you look out your window and leave what you did and saw there....there.

Sorry to say but you are simply talking shit. At least as many troops in the RSVN came down with PTSD as any other conflict.

I have a number of close friends who've completed many tours in combat zones...what they say about you will break your spirit.
"Lots of pussies who had no business joining the military did so and those are the ones with legitimate PTSD."
How does that sit with you tough guy?

I was drafted dumbass. And I seriously doubt you have friends much less any that actually served anywhere or had the slightest idea what they were talking about. Rumors? Really?

THANK YOU for your service.
Sincerely...thanks!
 
If "PTSD" wasn't so popular with leftists, we wouldn't see much of it. Guys who get out have a sure-fire way of getting attention and the leftists get to shit on our Armed Forces. They can say we "baby killers" who came home will eventually "go postal" if not fawned over and given special favor. It's all part of the social-engineering they want to put the Pentagon through and it's all horseshit.

The WW2 boys went for the DUration, driving the Hun out of Europe and the Nips out of the Pacific. They came home and built a country and an economy unparalleled in history. And they did it by keeping their memories of the carnage locked away from their new reality. We who served in the RVN didn't come home to the parades and gratitude our dads did. Luckily we in turn outdid our dads through the wealth generating Reagan years. And we saw to it that the young ME combat Vets got the honor and respect we never got.

In a combat theatre, you don't dwell on the savagery...you count your shots, make your shots count, and move up like you were trained to do. At night, you stay away from the weed and the booze and you get your sleep so you ain't slow to react the next day. Many of those who didn't have their name on that fucking black wall. And when it's over and the Freedom Bird is high enough not to get hit by a SAM, you look out your window and leave what you did and saw there....there.

Sorry to say but you are simply talking shit. At least as many troops in the RSVN came down with PTSD as any other conflict.

I have a number of close friends who've completed many tours in combat zones...what they say about you will break your spirit.
"Lots of pussies who had no business joining the military did so and those are the ones with legitimate PTSD."
How does that sit with you tough guy?

I was drafted dumbass. And I seriously doubt you have friends much less any that actually served anywhere or had the slightest idea what they were talking about. Rumors? Really?

But.....but....he has close friends who completed MANY tours in combat! And they say it is the pussies that get PTSD. So we must be wrong.

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