Update: The Illegal Alien Vote

[Seawytch]

If it wasn't for the Black welfare votes and the illegal aliens the Democrat Party would probably never get more than 25% of the vote.

If it wasn't for gerrymandering and voter suppression, the GOP would probably never get more that 15% of the vote.

When the filthy ass Democrats are in power they also do their gerrymandering to insure the districts are dominated by stupid Moon Bats. The most voter fraud in this country are in the Democrat controlled big cities with lax voter ID laws.

The Moon Bats hate the idea that you have to prove that you are eligible to vote before actually voting because that means their millions of illegals and Blacks don't get to cast multiple votes for shitsheads like Hussein Obama and Crooked Hillary.

The Democrats are the scum of this country. They are a party of the despicable assholes in the country. Blacks that vote their welfare check and race, greedy welfare queens, environmental wackos, anti gun nuts, queers, Feminazis, socialists, union thugs and confused college kids and their bat shit crazy Marxist professors.

The most gerrymandering is done by Republicans.

America’s most gerrymandered congressional districtsAmerica’s most gerrymandered congressional districts

Democrats won in nine of the 10 most-gerrymandered districts. But eight out of 10 of those districts were drawn by Republicans.
This speaks to the notion that the point of gerrymandering isn't to draw yourself a safe seat but to put your opponents in safe seats by cramming all of their supporters into a small number of districts. This lets you spread your own supporters over a larger number of districts. And the way to do this is to draw outlandishly-shaped districts that bring far-flung geographic areas together. North Carolina's 12th district, which holds the title of the nation's most-gerrymandered, is a textbook example of this: It snakes from north of Greensboro, to Winston-Salem, and then all the way down to Charlotte, spanning most of the state in the process.

Republicans drew Congressional boundaries in six of the 10 most-gerrymandered states.
In addition to North Carolina, Republicans drew district boundaries in Louisiana, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Alabama. Democrats drew districts in West Virginia and Illinois, in addition to Maryland. Boundaries in Kentucky were drawn up by that state's mixed legislature.

Again, the payoff for Republicans is in the makeup of the state's delegations: In those six states, Republicans picked up about 11 more seats than you'd expect from simply looking at the parties' vote shares.

The way to do redistricting is the way "moon bat" California did with citizen redistricting committees.

 

[Seawytch]

Again for the stupid... all states issue non citizens drivers license. ALL of them.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If it wasn't for the Black welfare votes and the illegal aliens the Democrat Party would probably never get more than 25% of the vote.

If it wasn't for gerrymandering and voter suppression, the GOP would probably never get more that 15% of the vote.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter-identification law on Monday, declaring that a requirement to produce photo identification is not unconstitutional and that the state has a “valid interest” in improving election procedures as well as deterring fraud.
Supreme Court Upholds Voter Identification Law in Indiana


Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.
http://www.sos.ga.gov/pressrel/2009_releases/June/20090601Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia.htm



Soooo.....who should vote in American elections?

These Moon Bats hate the idea of having to prove that you are actually eligible to vote. That really throws a monkey wrench in their plans for voter fraud and illegals being allowed to vote.

Isn't it interesting that the state with the largest number of illegals and the most lax voter identification had the largest plurality for Crooked Hillary in 2016?

Let's not forget where they seek votes...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court.

Ms. Sotomayor is thus in the position of asserting that Congress can prohibit New York from doing something the Constitution itself specifically endorses. It's as if she thinks black and Hispanic felons are convicted in order to deny them the vote, rather than that they are denied the vote as a result of being duly convicted. Her position ignores the fact that it is the convicts' own actions, their crimes - not any state-based racial discrimination - that make those felons ineligible to vote.

As almost every state has done since the United States was founded, New York forbids currently incarcerated or paroled prisoners from voting. Some states go even farther by prohibiting some felons from voting even after they have served their sentences. New York's law is not so stringent. It only applies to felons still under criminal sentences. It equally applies to all felons, black or white.

There is growing evidence that Judge Sotomayor believes some races are more equal than others."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not? EDITORIAL: The franchise for felons

Birds of a feather....
This is the modern Democrat Party

 

[Faun]

I neither lied nor supported Democrats.

You just quoted the article saying that what you put in bold is true when completing voter registration. Let me say that again in case you truly don't understand: voters are registered as having no party preference when registering to vote at the DMV. You just posted the quote that says that! The article doesn't say that when you renew your driver's license you are automatically registered to vote, no matter your citizenship status. It says you can complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your license.

You might also notice that the quote says voters have to stop to answer questions. It doesn't say illegal aliens, it doesn't say anyone who enters a DMV, it doesn't say there are no longer any requirements for registering to vote.

I honestly don't know if you realize this and are just trolling, or if you truly cannot understand the very quotes you are posting.

Well....I'll have to prove you to be a lying low-life.


"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.


" It says that those who are registering to vote must answer questions at a terminal or they will be registered with no party preference."



And that means they can vote for any party... automatically registered....you lying dunce.





BTW....you are henceforth forbidden from ever using the word 'honestly' ("I honestly don't know....") ever again.

You sure do like to copy and paste your own posts as though they somehow gain more credibility if you repeat them.

Once again, the article never says that illegals are automatically registered to vote. The article says that you can register to vote at the same time you renew your license. Illegals are not allowed to register to vote.

Now, you have argued that illegals are being registered to vote despite that not being allowed. Perhaps, but you have provided not one shred of evidence that this is happening. Whether it is or is not, you have not shown it to be true.

I still have not lied. Instead, you either continue to lie about what the LA Times article says, or you continue to be incapable of understanding what it says. Voters is not the same as illegal aliens. Being registered as having no party preference is not the same as being registered to vote.

You've been provided links to California state government information regarding voting registration which says both that being a citizen is a requirement to register to vote and that registration applications will be reviewed before the registration is accepted. Despite this, you still go back to the same misinterpreted quote about being registered with no party affiliation as though the repetition will somehow make it relevant.

Well....I'll have to prove you to be a lying low-life.


"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.


" It says that those who are registering to vote must answer questions at a terminal or they will be registered with no party preference."



And that means they can vote for any party... automatically registered....you lying dunce.





BTW....you are henceforth forbidden from ever using the word 'honestly' ("I honestly don't know....") ever again.

Not even going to try to say something new? Gotcha.

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.

And you've been shown, a request for voter registration for illegal aliens obtaining an AB-60 driver's license is not transmitted to the Department of State for approval. You just can't stop lying about this because it's eating you up that Trump lost the popular vote.

 

[Faun]

No. You provided the LA Times quote stating that when registering to vote, voters in California will be automatically registered as having no party preference if they don't answer questions at a separate computer terminal. Here, I'll provide the relevant portion for you again (it's the beginning of the article, shouldn't be hard to find!):

Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two
"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."

You, for obvious reasons, like to leave out portions of that quote. It doesn't say that illegal drivers are automatically registered to vote. It says that those who are registering to vote must answer questions at a terminal or they will be registered with no party preference.

If there is lying going on here, it is on your part as you continue to make the claim that the article says illegals are automatically registered to vote. The article says no such thing.

" It says that those who are registering to vote must answer questions at a terminal or they will be registered with no party preference."



And that means they can vote for any party... automatically registered....you lying dunce.

And you're lying again as you've been repeatedly shown the California laws which clearly state that registering to vote at a DMV is prohibited for those with an AB-60 driver's license, which is the only driver's license an undocumented alien can qualify for.

Illegals get driver's licenses that say no voting.....

Really?

I say Democrat's who work the polls ignore that blue bar and simply look at the name on the driver's license.

And guess what?

"It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!





California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015

Illegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/



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In the famous training montage, Rocky climbs the steps of which building?

Yes, there is a designation printed on an AB-60 driver's licenses...

... but that printed restriction is not used during the automated process of registering folks getting a license. That is done by the software which transmits data from the DMV to the Department of state which filters out AB-60 driver's license applicants.

You've been shown this and you ignore it so you can maintain your lies.

Exactly my point.....you've proven what I have said all along.

The scam is designed to allow illegal aliens to flash that card....

....and vote!


Or.....to put it another way, Ugly......could they possibly have made that note smaller?




See what I mean...you should only open your mouth to change feet.

LOLOL

How does one vote with a driver's license that indicates they can't??

 

[Faun]

Well....I'll have to prove you to be a lying low-life.


"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.

I neither lied nor supported Democrats.

You just quoted the article saying that what you put in bold is true when completing voter registration. Let me say that again in case you truly don't understand: voters are registered as having no party preference when registering to vote at the DMV. You just posted the quote that says that! The article doesn't say that when you renew your driver's license you are automatically registered to vote, no matter your citizenship status. It says you can complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your license.

You might also notice that the quote says voters have to stop to answer questions. It doesn't say illegal aliens, it doesn't say anyone who enters a DMV, it doesn't say there are no longer any requirements for registering to vote.

I honestly don't know if you realize this and are just trolling, or if you truly cannot understand the very quotes you are posting.

Well....I'll have to prove you to be a lying low-life.


"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.


" It says that those who are registering to vote must answer questions at a terminal or they will be registered with no party preference."



And that means they can vote for any party... automatically registered....you lying dunce.





BTW....you are henceforth forbidden from ever using the word 'honestly' ("I honestly don't know....") ever again.

You sure do like to copy and paste your own posts as though they somehow gain more credibility if you repeat them.

Once again, the article never says that illegals are automatically registered to vote. The article says that you can register to vote at the same time you renew your license. Illegals are not allowed to register to vote.

Now, you have argued that illegals are being registered to vote despite that not being allowed. Perhaps, but you have provided not one shred of evidence that this is happening. Whether it is or is not, you have not shown it to be true.

I still have not lied. Instead, you either continue to lie about what the LA Times article says, or you continue to be incapable of understanding what it says. Voters is not the same as illegal aliens. Being registered as having no party preference is not the same as being registered to vote.

You've been provided links to California state government information regarding voting registration which says both that being a citizen is a requirement to register to vote and that registration applications will be reviewed before the registration is accepted. Despite this, you still go back to the same misinterpreted quote about being registered with no party affiliation as though the repetition will somehow make it relevant.

Of course illegals are not allowed to register to vote. That's stated clearly in California law....

Assembly Bill No. 60

This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.​

PoliticalHack knows this as she's been shown it a dozen times on several different threads where she keeps repeating this nonsense as though repitition will somehow magically make what she says real. She literally has to ignore the law to maintain her list of lies.

Let's review:

1. California is the state with the largest number of illegal aliens

2. They and a dozen other states give them IDs and driver's licenses

3. When they sign up for driver's licenses, they are automatically registered to vote.

4. The main issue in this election was whether illegal aliens would be allowed to remain in this country.

5. Imbeciles....Democrats.....maintain that these honest, law-abiding non-citizens (illegal aliens) would never break the law and vote....
....even though the snake, Obama, told them to and that there'd be no repercussions.

Makes sense, huh?

Review what? You've been shown repeatedly that California laws explicitly prohibit illegal aliens from voting. You ignore every such California law because you are consumed with Trump losing the popular vote. Why do you thing we need to review your strawman when the law itself highlights how wrong you are?

 

[Faun]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--so that they can cast a single vote? Actually walking into a precinct so they can say the ultimate: "Here I am come and get me."

Year after year studies shows that fraudulent voting is very rare. Out of every BILLION votes cast there will be 31 that are fraudulent.
How many votes out of a billion cast were fraudulent? And the number is ...
Donald Trump is wrong. Rigging an election is almost impossible.

There's a reason for it being very rare:
1. You lose your right to vote forever.
2. It is a Felony to vote more than once or use fraudualent I.D. to cast a vote.
3. It also comes with heafty fines--jail time or both.

In 2016 they did catch 2 people that registed in two different precincts--and both of them were Trump voters.

Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

Then in Texas anotherTrump voter was caught trying to vote twice.
Texas Trump Supporter Arrested For Trying to Vote Twice

So my Logic and Reason tells me that since Trump was promoting voting twice--by claiming that dead people voted--& you don't really know if you're mail in ballot was counted or not that it would probably be a great idea to see how manyTrump supporters voted multiple times by registering in different precincts or being registered in more than one state and voting more than once. In fact these two voters stated the reason they tried to vote twice was because of what TRUMP told them.

I'll lay odds right now, that you'll find more Trump voters voting more than once than you would ever find an illegal stupid enough to risk getting caught and deported just so they could cast a vote.
Woman Arrested For Allegedly Voting For Trump Twice Because Polls Are “Rigged”

"Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--"

NONE!

Obama told the illegals to go and vote and no one would question it.

Here, his own words.



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.

You mean in the same interview where Obama promoted how voters must be U.S. citizens.

 

[Flash]

Well....I'll have to prove you to be a lying low-life.


"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.


" It says that those who are registering to vote must answer questions at a terminal or they will be registered with no party preference."



And that means they can vote for any party... automatically registered....you lying dunce.





BTW....you are henceforth forbidden from ever using the word 'honestly' ("I honestly don't know....") ever again.

You sure do like to copy and paste your own posts as though they somehow gain more credibility if you repeat them.

Once again, the article never says that illegals are automatically registered to vote. The article says that you can register to vote at the same time you renew your license. Illegals are not allowed to register to vote.

Now, you have argued that illegals are being registered to vote despite that not being allowed. Perhaps, but you have provided not one shred of evidence that this is happening. Whether it is or is not, you have not shown it to be true.

I still have not lied. Instead, you either continue to lie about what the LA Times article says, or you continue to be incapable of understanding what it says. Voters is not the same as illegal aliens. Being registered as having no party preference is not the same as being registered to vote.

You've been provided links to California state government information regarding voting registration which says both that being a citizen is a requirement to register to vote and that registration applications will be reviewed before the registration is accepted. Despite this, you still go back to the same misinterpreted quote about being registered with no party affiliation as though the repetition will somehow make it relevant.

Well....I'll have to prove you to be a lying low-life.


"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.


" It says that those who are registering to vote must answer questions at a terminal or they will be registered with no party preference."



And that means they can vote for any party... automatically registered....you lying dunce.





BTW....you are henceforth forbidden from ever using the word 'honestly' ("I honestly don't know....") ever again.

Not even going to try to say something new? Gotcha.

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.

And you've been shown, a request for voter registration for illegal aliens obtaining an AB-60 driver's license is not transmitted to the Department of State for approval. You just can't stop lying about this because it's eating you up that Trump lost the popular vote.

There was a time when the Democrats had a significant Moderate and even Conservative representation. Those days are long gone. Even somebody like JFK would be shunned by the Democrat Party nowadays. Today they are a party of extreme batshit crazy Left Wingers and greedy welfare queens.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You sure do like to copy and paste your own posts as though they somehow gain more credibility if you repeat them.

Once again, the article never says that illegals are automatically registered to vote. The article says that you can register to vote at the same time you renew your license. Illegals are not allowed to register to vote.

Now, you have argued that illegals are being registered to vote despite that not being allowed. Perhaps, but you have provided not one shred of evidence that this is happening. Whether it is or is not, you have not shown it to be true.

I still have not lied. Instead, you either continue to lie about what the LA Times article says, or you continue to be incapable of understanding what it says. Voters is not the same as illegal aliens. Being registered as having no party preference is not the same as being registered to vote.

You've been provided links to California state government information regarding voting registration which says both that being a citizen is a requirement to register to vote and that registration applications will be reviewed before the registration is accepted. Despite this, you still go back to the same misinterpreted quote about being registered with no party affiliation as though the repetition will somehow make it relevant.

Well....I'll have to prove you to be a lying low-life.


"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.


" It says that those who are registering to vote must answer questions at a terminal or they will be registered with no party preference."



And that means they can vote for any party... automatically registered....you lying dunce.





BTW....you are henceforth forbidden from ever using the word 'honestly' ("I honestly don't know....") ever again.

Not even going to try to say something new? Gotcha.

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two




Sooo....we agree: you'll lie to support the Democrats?

Excellent.

And you've been shown, a request for voter registration for illegal aliens obtaining an AB-60 driver's license is not transmitted to the Department of State for approval. You just can't stop lying about this because it's eating you up that Trump lost the popular vote.

There was a time when the Democrats had a significant Moderate and even Conservative representation. Those days are long gone. Even somebody like JFK would be shunned by the Democrat Party nowadays. Today they are a party of extreme batshit crazy Left Wingers and greedy welfare queens.

I just posted something like that in today's OP!

Searching For Their Soul

 

[Seawytch]

If it wasn't for the Black welfare votes and the illegal aliens the Democrat Party would probably never get more than 25% of the vote.

If it wasn't for gerrymandering and voter suppression, the GOP would probably never get more that 15% of the vote.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter-identification law on Monday, declaring that a requirement to produce photo identification is not unconstitutional and that the state has a “valid interest” in improving election procedures as well as deterring fraud.
Supreme Court Upholds Voter Identification Law in Indiana


Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.
http://www.sos.ga.gov/pressrel/2009_releases/June/20090601Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia.htm



Soooo.....who should vote in American elections?

These Moon Bats hate the idea of having to prove that you are actually eligible to vote. That really throws a monkey wrench in their plans for voter fraud and illegals being allowed to vote.

Isn't it interesting that the state with the largest number of illegals and the most lax voter identification had the largest plurality for Crooked Hillary in 2016?

Let's not forget where they seek votes...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court.

Ms. Sotomayor is thus in the position of asserting that Congress can prohibit New York from doing something the Constitution itself specifically endorses. It's as if she thinks black and Hispanic felons are convicted in order to deny them the vote, rather than that they are denied the vote as a result of being duly convicted. Her position ignores the fact that it is the convicts' own actions, their crimes - not any state-based racial discrimination - that make those felons ineligible to vote.

As almost every state has done since the United States was founded, New York forbids currently incarcerated or paroled prisoners from voting. Some states go even farther by prohibiting some felons from voting even after they have served their sentences. New York's law is not so stringent. It only applies to felons still under criminal sentences. It equally applies to all felons, black or white.

There is growing evidence that Judge Sotomayor believes some races are more equal than others."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not? EDITORIAL: The franchise for felons

Birds of a feather....
This is the modern Democrat Party

Yeah well I agree with Justice Sotomayor. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated, why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--so that they can cast a single vote? Actually walking into a precinct so they can say the ultimate: "Here I am come and get me."

Year after year studies shows that fraudulent voting is very rare. Out of every BILLION votes cast there will be 31 that are fraudulent.
How many votes out of a billion cast were fraudulent? And the number is ...
Donald Trump is wrong. Rigging an election is almost impossible.

There's a reason for it being very rare:
1. You lose your right to vote forever.
2. It is a Felony to vote more than once or use fraudualent I.D. to cast a vote.
3. It also comes with heafty fines--jail time or both.

In 2016 they did catch 2 people that registed in two different precincts--and both of them were Trump voters.

Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

Then in Texas anotherTrump voter was caught trying to vote twice.
Texas Trump Supporter Arrested For Trying to Vote Twice

So my Logic and Reason tells me that since Trump was promoting voting twice--by claiming that dead people voted--& you don't really know if you're mail in ballot was counted or not that it would probably be a great idea to see how manyTrump supporters voted multiple times by registering in different precincts or being registered in more than one state and voting more than once. In fact these two voters stated the reason they tried to vote twice was because of what TRUMP told them.

I'll lay odds right now, that you'll find more Trump voters voting more than once than you would ever find an illegal stupid enough to risk getting caught and deported just so they could cast a vote.
Woman Arrested For Allegedly Voting For Trump Twice Because Polls Are “Rigged”

"Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--"

NONE!

Obama told the illegals to go and vote and no one would question it.

Here, his own words.



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.

You mean in the same interview where Obama promoted how voters must be U.S. citizens.

I mean this:



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.



Thanks for asking.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If it wasn't for the Black welfare votes and the illegal aliens the Democrat Party would probably never get more than 25% of the vote.

If it wasn't for gerrymandering and voter suppression, the GOP would probably never get more that 15% of the vote.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter-identification law on Monday, declaring that a requirement to produce photo identification is not unconstitutional and that the state has a “valid interest” in improving election procedures as well as deterring fraud.
Supreme Court Upholds Voter Identification Law in Indiana


Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.
http://www.sos.ga.gov/pressrel/2009_releases/June/20090601Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia.htm



Soooo.....who should vote in American elections?

These Moon Bats hate the idea of having to prove that you are actually eligible to vote. That really throws a monkey wrench in their plans for voter fraud and illegals being allowed to vote.

Isn't it interesting that the state with the largest number of illegals and the most lax voter identification had the largest plurality for Crooked Hillary in 2016?

Let's not forget where they seek votes...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court.

Ms. Sotomayor is thus in the position of asserting that Congress can prohibit New York from doing something the Constitution itself specifically endorses. It's as if she thinks black and Hispanic felons are convicted in order to deny them the vote, rather than that they are denied the vote as a result of being duly convicted. Her position ignores the fact that it is the convicts' own actions, their crimes - not any state-based racial discrimination - that make those felons ineligible to vote.

As almost every state has done since the United States was founded, New York forbids currently incarcerated or paroled prisoners from voting. Some states go even farther by prohibiting some felons from voting even after they have served their sentences. New York's law is not so stringent. It only applies to felons still under criminal sentences. It equally applies to all felons, black or white.

There is growing evidence that Judge Sotomayor believes some races are more equal than others."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not? EDITORIAL: The franchise for felons

Birds of a feather....
This is the modern Democrat Party

Yeah well I agree with Justice Sotomayor. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated, why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?

So happy to see we're on opposite sides of this issue as well.

I stand with the victims, not the predators.

 

[Faun]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--so that they can cast a single vote? Actually walking into a precinct so they can say the ultimate: "Here I am come and get me."

Year after year studies shows that fraudulent voting is very rare. Out of every BILLION votes cast there will be 31 that are fraudulent.
How many votes out of a billion cast were fraudulent? And the number is ...
Donald Trump is wrong. Rigging an election is almost impossible.

There's a reason for it being very rare:
1. You lose your right to vote forever.
2. It is a Felony to vote more than once or use fraudualent I.D. to cast a vote.
3. It also comes with heafty fines--jail time or both.

In 2016 they did catch 2 people that registed in two different precincts--and both of them were Trump voters.

Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

Then in Texas anotherTrump voter was caught trying to vote twice.
Texas Trump Supporter Arrested For Trying to Vote Twice

So my Logic and Reason tells me that since Trump was promoting voting twice--by claiming that dead people voted--& you don't really know if you're mail in ballot was counted or not that it would probably be a great idea to see how manyTrump supporters voted multiple times by registering in different precincts or being registered in more than one state and voting more than once. In fact these two voters stated the reason they tried to vote twice was because of what TRUMP told them.

I'll lay odds right now, that you'll find more Trump voters voting more than once than you would ever find an illegal stupid enough to risk getting caught and deported just so they could cast a vote.
Woman Arrested For Allegedly Voting For Trump Twice Because Polls Are “Rigged”

"Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--"

NONE!

Obama told the illegals to go and vote and no one would question it.

Here, his own words.



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.

You mean in the same interview where Obama promoted how voters must be U.S. citizens.

I mean this:



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.



Thanks for asking.

Yes, that's the same interview where Obama promotes how voters must be U.S. citizens. You know, what you bizarrely refer to as encouraging illegal aliens to vote.



You're a riot, PoliticalHack.

 

[Seawytch]

If it wasn't for gerrymandering and voter suppression, the GOP would probably never get more that 15% of the vote.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter-identification law on Monday, declaring that a requirement to produce photo identification is not unconstitutional and that the state has a “valid interest” in improving election procedures as well as deterring fraud.
Supreme Court Upholds Voter Identification Law in Indiana


Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.
http://www.sos.ga.gov/pressrel/2009_releases/June/20090601Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia.htm



Soooo.....who should vote in American elections?

These Moon Bats hate the idea of having to prove that you are actually eligible to vote. That really throws a monkey wrench in their plans for voter fraud and illegals being allowed to vote.

Isn't it interesting that the state with the largest number of illegals and the most lax voter identification had the largest plurality for Crooked Hillary in 2016?

Let's not forget where they seek votes...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court.

Ms. Sotomayor is thus in the position of asserting that Congress can prohibit New York from doing something the Constitution itself specifically endorses. It's as if she thinks black and Hispanic felons are convicted in order to deny them the vote, rather than that they are denied the vote as a result of being duly convicted. Her position ignores the fact that it is the convicts' own actions, their crimes - not any state-based racial discrimination - that make those felons ineligible to vote.

As almost every state has done since the United States was founded, New York forbids currently incarcerated or paroled prisoners from voting. Some states go even farther by prohibiting some felons from voting even after they have served their sentences. New York's law is not so stringent. It only applies to felons still under criminal sentences. It equally applies to all felons, black or white.

There is growing evidence that Judge Sotomayor believes some races are more equal than others."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not? EDITORIAL: The franchise for felons

Birds of a feather....
This is the modern Democrat Party

Yeah well I agree with Justice Sotomayor. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated, why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?

So happy to see we're on opposite sides of this issue as well.

I stand with the victims, not the predators.

Oh please. This has nothing to do with the crimes they committed. Drug possession, felony that will lose you your right to vote, in many states for life.

A convicted murderer on death row has the fundamental right to marry according to the SCOTUS. Legally argue against that same right applying to felons or former felons and voting, also a fundamental right.

 

[PoliticalChic]

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter-identification law on Monday, declaring that a requirement to produce photo identification is not unconstitutional and that the state has a “valid interest” in improving election procedures as well as deterring fraud.
Supreme Court Upholds Voter Identification Law in Indiana


Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.
http://www.sos.ga.gov/pressrel/2009_releases/June/20090601Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia.htm



Soooo.....who should vote in American elections?

These Moon Bats hate the idea of having to prove that you are actually eligible to vote. That really throws a monkey wrench in their plans for voter fraud and illegals being allowed to vote.

Isn't it interesting that the state with the largest number of illegals and the most lax voter identification had the largest plurality for Crooked Hillary in 2016?

Let's not forget where they seek votes...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court.

Ms. Sotomayor is thus in the position of asserting that Congress can prohibit New York from doing something the Constitution itself specifically endorses. It's as if she thinks black and Hispanic felons are convicted in order to deny them the vote, rather than that they are denied the vote as a result of being duly convicted. Her position ignores the fact that it is the convicts' own actions, their crimes - not any state-based racial discrimination - that make those felons ineligible to vote.

As almost every state has done since the United States was founded, New York forbids currently incarcerated or paroled prisoners from voting. Some states go even farther by prohibiting some felons from voting even after they have served their sentences. New York's law is not so stringent. It only applies to felons still under criminal sentences. It equally applies to all felons, black or white.

There is growing evidence that Judge Sotomayor believes some races are more equal than others."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not? EDITORIAL: The franchise for felons

Birds of a feather....
This is the modern Democrat Party

Yeah well I agree with Justice Sotomayor. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated, why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?

So happy to see we're on opposite sides of this issue as well.

I stand with the victims, not the predators.

Oh please. This has nothing to do with the crimes they committed. Drug possession, felony that will lose you your right to vote, in many states for life.

A convicted murderer on death row has the fundamental right to marry according to the SCOTUS. Legally argue against that same right applying to felons or former felons and voting, also a fundamental right.

"This has nothing to do with the crimes they committed."

This is what is has to do with:
"... in some states, felons register Democratic by more than six-to-one. In New York, for example, 61.5 percent of convicts are Democrats, just 9 percent Republican. They also cited a study that found 73 percent of convicts who turn out for presidential elections would vote Democrat."
White House threatens to veto House energy bill


And this:
"Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”.
http://medfordcitysearch.com/why-democrats-want-jailed-felons-to-vote/

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--so that they can cast a single vote? Actually walking into a precinct so they can say the ultimate: "Here I am come and get me."

Year after year studies shows that fraudulent voting is very rare. Out of every BILLION votes cast there will be 31 that are fraudulent.
How many votes out of a billion cast were fraudulent? And the number is ...
Donald Trump is wrong. Rigging an election is almost impossible.

There's a reason for it being very rare:
1. You lose your right to vote forever.
2. It is a Felony to vote more than once or use fraudualent I.D. to cast a vote.
3. It also comes with heafty fines--jail time or both.

In 2016 they did catch 2 people that registed in two different precincts--and both of them were Trump voters.

Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

Then in Texas anotherTrump voter was caught trying to vote twice.
Texas Trump Supporter Arrested For Trying to Vote Twice

So my Logic and Reason tells me that since Trump was promoting voting twice--by claiming that dead people voted--& you don't really know if you're mail in ballot was counted or not that it would probably be a great idea to see how manyTrump supporters voted multiple times by registering in different precincts or being registered in more than one state and voting more than once. In fact these two voters stated the reason they tried to vote twice was because of what TRUMP told them.

I'll lay odds right now, that you'll find more Trump voters voting more than once than you would ever find an illegal stupid enough to risk getting caught and deported just so they could cast a vote.
Woman Arrested For Allegedly Voting For Trump Twice Because Polls Are “Rigged”

"Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--"

NONE!

Obama told the illegals to go and vote and no one would question it.

Here, his own words.



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.

You mean in the same interview where Obama promoted how voters must be U.S. citizens.

I mean this:



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.



Thanks for asking.

Yes, that's the same interview where Obama promotes how voters must be U.S. citizens. You know, what you bizarrely refer to as encouraging illegal aliens to vote.



You're a riot, PoliticalHack.

Is this what you can't deny, Ugly?

Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

 

[PoliticalChic]

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter-identification law on Monday, declaring that a requirement to produce photo identification is not unconstitutional and that the state has a “valid interest” in improving election procedures as well as deterring fraud.
Supreme Court Upholds Voter Identification Law in Indiana


Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.
http://www.sos.ga.gov/pressrel/2009_releases/June/20090601Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia.htm



Soooo.....who should vote in American elections?

These Moon Bats hate the idea of having to prove that you are actually eligible to vote. That really throws a monkey wrench in their plans for voter fraud and illegals being allowed to vote.

Isn't it interesting that the state with the largest number of illegals and the most lax voter identification had the largest plurality for Crooked Hillary in 2016?

Let's not forget where they seek votes...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court.

Ms. Sotomayor is thus in the position of asserting that Congress can prohibit New York from doing something the Constitution itself specifically endorses. It's as if she thinks black and Hispanic felons are convicted in order to deny them the vote, rather than that they are denied the vote as a result of being duly convicted. Her position ignores the fact that it is the convicts' own actions, their crimes - not any state-based racial discrimination - that make those felons ineligible to vote.

As almost every state has done since the United States was founded, New York forbids currently incarcerated or paroled prisoners from voting. Some states go even farther by prohibiting some felons from voting even after they have served their sentences. New York's law is not so stringent. It only applies to felons still under criminal sentences. It equally applies to all felons, black or white.

There is growing evidence that Judge Sotomayor believes some races are more equal than others."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not? EDITORIAL: The franchise for felons

Birds of a feather....
This is the modern Democrat Party

Yeah well I agree with Justice Sotomayor. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated, why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?

So happy to see we're on opposite sides of this issue as well.

I stand with the victims, not the predators.

Oh please. This has nothing to do with the crimes they committed. Drug possession, felony that will lose you your right to vote, in many states for life.

A convicted murderer on death row has the fundamental right to marry according to the SCOTUS. Legally argue against that same right applying to felons or former felons and voting, also a fundamental right.

'In the U.S., the constitution implicitly permits the States to adopt rules about disenfranchisement "for participation in rebellion, or other crime", by the fourteenth amendment, section 2. ... Felons are allowed to vote in most states of the US.'
Felony disenfranchisement - Wikipedia
Felony disenfranchisement - Wikipedia



One more reason to keep power out of the hands of Democrats at every level.

 

[Faun]

Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--so that they can cast a single vote? Actually walking into a precinct so they can say the ultimate: "Here I am come and get me."

Year after year studies shows that fraudulent voting is very rare. Out of every BILLION votes cast there will be 31 that are fraudulent.
How many votes out of a billion cast were fraudulent? And the number is ...
Donald Trump is wrong. Rigging an election is almost impossible.

There's a reason for it being very rare:
1. You lose your right to vote forever.
2. It is a Felony to vote more than once or use fraudualent I.D. to cast a vote.
3. It also comes with heafty fines--jail time or both.

In 2016 they did catch 2 people that registed in two different precincts--and both of them were Trump voters.

Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

Then in Texas anotherTrump voter was caught trying to vote twice.
Texas Trump Supporter Arrested For Trying to Vote Twice

So my Logic and Reason tells me that since Trump was promoting voting twice--by claiming that dead people voted--& you don't really know if you're mail in ballot was counted or not that it would probably be a great idea to see how manyTrump supporters voted multiple times by registering in different precincts or being registered in more than one state and voting more than once. In fact these two voters stated the reason they tried to vote twice was because of what TRUMP told them.

I'll lay odds right now, that you'll find more Trump voters voting more than once than you would ever find an illegal stupid enough to risk getting caught and deported just so they could cast a vote.
Woman Arrested For Allegedly Voting For Trump Twice Because Polls Are “Rigged”

"Well you mention "Logic and reason."

So how many illegals in this country would have reason to "risk getting caught and deported"--"

NONE!

Obama told the illegals to go and vote and no one would question it.

Here, his own words.



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.

You mean in the same interview where Obama promoted how voters must be U.S. citizens.

I mean this:



1. The first line in the Obama interview from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.


2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Barack Obama and his Democrats..... disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.


QED....millions of illegal aliens took the hint.



Thanks for asking.

Yes, that's the same interview where Obama promotes how voters must be U.S. citizens. You know, what you bizarrely refer to as encouraging illegal aliens to vote.



You're a riot, PoliticalHack.

Is this what you can't deny, Ugly?

Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."


3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch you.'
Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'



4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

Along with saying illegals can't vote. That's some encouragement.

 

[Seawytch]

These Moon Bats hate the idea of having to prove that you are actually eligible to vote. That really throws a monkey wrench in their plans for voter fraud and illegals being allowed to vote.

Isn't it interesting that the state with the largest number of illegals and the most lax voter identification had the largest plurality for Crooked Hillary in 2016?

Let's not forget where they seek votes...

"Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It's her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court.

Ms. Sotomayor is thus in the position of asserting that Congress can prohibit New York from doing something the Constitution itself specifically endorses. It's as if she thinks black and Hispanic felons are convicted in order to deny them the vote, rather than that they are denied the vote as a result of being duly convicted. Her position ignores the fact that it is the convicts' own actions, their crimes - not any state-based racial discrimination - that make those felons ineligible to vote.

As almost every state has done since the United States was founded, New York forbids currently incarcerated or paroled prisoners from voting. Some states go even farther by prohibiting some felons from voting even after they have served their sentences. New York's law is not so stringent. It only applies to felons still under criminal sentences. It equally applies to all felons, black or white.

There is growing evidence that Judge Sotomayor believes some races are more equal than others."
Democrats want to let convicted felons and felons in prison vote! Do you think this should be allowed or not? EDITORIAL: The franchise for felons

Birds of a feather....
This is the modern Democrat Party

Yeah well I agree with Justice Sotomayor. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated, why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?

So happy to see we're on opposite sides of this issue as well.

I stand with the victims, not the predators.

Oh please. This has nothing to do with the crimes they committed. Drug possession, felony that will lose you your right to vote, in many states for life.

A convicted murderer on death row has the fundamental right to marry according to the SCOTUS. Legally argue against that same right applying to felons or former felons and voting, also a fundamental right.

"This has nothing to do with the crimes they committed."

This is what is has to do with:
"... in some states, felons register Democratic by more than six-to-one. In New York, for example, 61.5 percent of convicts are Democrats, just 9 percent Republican. They also cited a study that found 73 percent of convicts who turn out for presidential elections would vote Democrat."
White House threatens to veto House energy bill


And this:
"Victim rights advocates call the push by democrats “insulting” and a “slap in the face to all victims of crime”.
http://medfordcitysearch.com/why-democrats-want-jailed-felons-to-vote/

I don't care who they vote for, I just believe they should have the right to vote.

The rise in felon disenfranchisement across the United States closely tracks America's War on Drugs and soaring prison population since the 1970s. There are 2.4 million Americans currently serving time behind bars in local, state, and federal institutions—one fourth of the total prison population worldwide and seven times more than in 1972. People convicted of possessing or selling illegal drugs account for one-third of all convicted felons, the largest single group. Other common felonies include property, white-collar, and driving-related offenses. Murderers and rapists make up just four percent of people behind bars.

Felon disenfranchisement is not randomly distributed across the population. The large majority of past and present felons who have lost the right to vote were raised and continue to live in poverty. According to an Urban Institute study, nearly eight in 10 incarcerated fathers earned poverty-level incomes of less than $2,000 in the month prior to their incarceration, and 40 percent did not have a full-time job—six times the overall rate of poverty at the time. Education counts as well: High-school dropouts are 10 to 20 times more likely than their college-educated peers to spend time behind bars, a fact which sociologists ascribe to diminished job opportunities for people with limited education in the United States today.

In racial terms, the disparities are greater still. African Americans constitute around 38 percent of disenfranchised people—five times the rate among non-blacks—because of significantly higher rates of searching, sentencing, and detention by the police. More than one in seven black men is officially disenfranchised nationwide, with rates climbing as high as one in three in certain states. Some scholars assign the racial disparity in felon disenfranchisement to higher rates of criminal involvement among black men—a contested claim—while most agree that there is longstanding institutional bias within the criminal-justice system. Whatever the cause, the consequences for second-class citizens of color caught up in the criminal-justice system are severe.

Should Felons Lose the Right to Vote?

 

[Flash]

[QU

Yeah well I agree with Justice Sotomayor. You don't lose the fundamental right to marry while incarcerated, why should you lose the fundamental right to vote?

You lose the fundamental Constitutional guaranteed right to keep and bare arms if you are convicted of most felonies so why not the right to vote?